Car Craft hates PT too! :)

[BonzoHansen]

I just got today's Car Craft in the mail. The editor's letter in the beginning spells out why they only like drag racing and Bonneville type land speed racing. Here is his take on pro touring:

...A big argument is that Pro-Touring or G-Touring or whatever you want to call it is a distant modern interpretation of early NASCAR rides with big tries and the emphasis on handling. Problem is, these cars aren't roaring around Talladega 'cause you can't get in. And if you could, you'd likely do a couple of laps at 120 or so and let loose the rods. That's why you see the P/T cars at the car shows more than anywhere else.

I didn’t realize P/T cars were modeled after roundy-rounds. I guess I need more stagger in the alignment. I guess we can't expect much from a mag that has a XX page article on painting your car at home and never once mentions safety or respirators.

Just a post to get a laugh, not to define P/T!

[Samckitt]

That's it, I am done with Car Craft!

[Foudie]

A good example as to why I let my subscription to Car Craft expire when I entered Junior High. Sounds like they are stuck in the 80's right where I left them.

[Bill Howell]

Another uninformed editor, spouting off about something he is clueless about. Why, oh why does protouring have to be connected at the hip with racing???? Reality is, the more race oriented a car is the less TOURING it will do. Simple fact of life, just like the fact that if it will corner well, it probably will not be the ultimate drag racer. Compromise, compromise, compromise.We want a good mixture of all the different aspects, straightline, cornering and touring. Now, why is that so hard to understand?

[Bill Howell]

Some one post an email addy for this guy, and lets bombbard him with emails, linking him to this site and thread. Maybe then he will get it or, at least understand what protouring is next time he opens his mouth.

[69rs]

Hook him up with Johnny. Have them each bring a car to Year One and do every event!

[BonzoHansen]

I just posted this for a laugh, not to start a letter writing campaign. But I bet you could find his addy at the CC website.

The guys is a Freiburger boy, so you know all he likes is clapped out stuff held together by duct tape & jb weld (and some sponsor parts). I only have 4 months left, then it is gone. PHR took its place.

[rocketman]

car craft is the worst hi performance car mag out there.they are a copycat mag anyway after read an article in another mag acouple months later they do it word for word.

[StRacerDuke]

It must be hard when big brother has all the better features, quality builds, higher budget, and better tech. I guess the only thing left to do in that situation is attack the better cars.

[Ralph LoGrasso]

We have all been enlightened by the wisdom of Doug Glad. Many thanks and praise to him.

Hey Doug,

You need to do some research as your notion of what pro-touring is has been so greatly misconstrued; please don't impose such misconceptions on your readers.

[TonyL]

It must be hard when big brother has all the better features, quality builds, higher budget, and better tech. I guess the only thing left to do in that situation is attack the better cars.

EXACTLY.

It's the only thing they can do at this point. they are trying to claim all the "haters" who write in and tell PHR how much we suck, and give them a home.

[Steve1968LS2]

Some one post an email addy for this guy, and lets bombbard him with emails, linking him to this site and thread. Maybe then he will get it or, at least understand what protouring is next time he opens his mouth.

I could never give out his email addy.. but it should be listed in the front of the magazine ;)

and if that isn't enough then you could figure out that all the addys are something like

[email protected]

But again, I can't give you his email address..

[TonyL]

P.S.

We MUST email, write, fax or whatever we can the true origin of pro-touring to this clown.



the "NASCAR" look is a whole new segment, yet to be named.

[EFI69Cam]

I just got today's Car Craft in the mail. The editor's letter in the beginning spells out why they only like drag racing and Bonneville type land speed racing. Here is his take on pro touring:


I didn’t realize P/T cars were modeled after roundy-rounds. I guess I need more stagger in the alignment. I guess we can't expect much from a mag that has a XX page article on painting your car at home and never once mentions safety or respirators.

Just a post to get a laugh, not to define P/T!

Isn't carcraft the mag that still has cars with pink interiors and diagonal side stripes?
Lost in the pro-***** er I mean street era I guess.

[shmoov69]

Ahh, once again. The old you don't understand me, so you suck game! C'mon guys, get a grip! This guys posts what HE feels because he is paid to do that (among other things). Yes, we all know that Car Craft is a drag race, cheapskate, dirtbag kind of mag. So what? To each thier own. I dig the mag, but that is because I am a drag race, cheapskate, dirtbag kind of guy! Oh, that likes pro touring also! WHat I took from his article is that he is stating that PT is like Nascar in its beginings. Stock bodied cars that people took and hopped up to go like stink and to drive like mad in the twisties out runnin' the fuzz to drop off the booze (we don't do that part!). The good ones even redone their suspension and brakes to "get away" without any problems. Isn't that what are cars are now in a much, much more modern way. With creature comforts also.
The Tallegada thing seems like just ramble/filler that don't make much sense.
But the sitting at shows is a very valid point. Some of the people here do take their cars to the track alot, but this is a hardcore group. There are FAR MORE PT style (read STYLE) cars out there that don't touch a twisty. So, that IMO is a valid statement.
But maybe I misread or mistook what he was saying. Maybe he meant that all PT cars suck because they are posers and do not go down the strip or the salt.
Maybe PT should have a mag just for us. LOL!
>me puts on flame suit!<

[JMarsa]

With all the above comments, and specifically what Tony said, my car will be a mix of PT, vintage Trans Am and Nascar. What's that called?

--JMarsa

[shmoov69]

With all the above comments, and specifically what Tony said, my car will be a mix of PT, vintage Trans Am and Nascar. What's that called?

--JMarsa

What you like and paid for!!

[indyjps]

i will continue to subscribe to car craft because every once in a while they do an article about actually fixing something rather than just bolting up the newest kit. what i got from the editorial was that way too many pro-touring cars become show cars and not drivers, which is what changed pro street from street racers to show ground queens anyway. i agree he is misinformormed about the origins of pro-touring and should be schooled, im glad freiburger is gone though, his endless stream of crappy mopars was getting old, nothing against mopars, but there are some models that should be put out to pasture, an aluminum slant 6 feature?, who gives a crap put it in a truck and beat it to death, thats what they were good for.

[TonyL]

my car will be a mix of PT, vintage Trans Am and Nascar. What's that called?

Cool? Bitchin?

[Dayton]

I hear in next months Car Craft they are going to do a spread on Joe Dirt's Daytona