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    1. #1
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      Sub-Frame Connectors Appearance?

      Which subframe connectors do you guys have? and how much of them shows from the bottom of the car?

      Do the comp engineering ones show more than DSE? Does anyone have pics of them?

      Thanks in advance

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    3. #3
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      It would be tough to get a lower profile SFC than the DSE ones. If the CE ones you speek of are bolt in than I would say they will sit lower than the DSE ones. I have a set of the CE in my garage and that is what they look like they would do.
      Brian

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      I have CEs bolt ons already but im getting weld ins... the design is different, i was just curious if they were much different from DSE.

    5. #5
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      I have CE bolt ins that i welded in as I did'nt want to cut the floor-pans. They do "hang" lower than bolt ons and I gotta be careful with speed bumps and curbs.
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    6. #6
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      yeah, yeah, I'm bringing up an old thread.

      I have a similar question about sub-frame connectors. The ones I have are from Competition Engineering as well, and they are the weld-in design.
      They're not on the car yet, but they LOOK/FEEL like really sturdy, heavy duty pieces. They are 38" long with about a 4"x3" square at one end and a 4"x4" square at the other end.

      I don't want stuff sticking all down and crap, I wanna lower my car pretty good on 17's or 18's.

      Think I should sell these and get something else? I've had these things forever.

      Also, do ALL subframe connectors cause you to cut through the rear floor-pan? I was kind of hoping there was a good set that didn't. Just curious.


      Thx!

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      The DSE ones are nice.
      The weld in CC SC are beefy. I trimmed the top of a set of weld ins before. You place the SC's up against the floor pan then trim the top till it sits to your likeing, then trim more. After all the cutting I cut and welded a piece of flat stock to box it back up again. I had it sit up tight and flush with the body, with no cutting of the floor pan at all.
      If I was to do it again I would make a card board template.
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      Have you ever looked at the Global West connectors? From what I remember, they are tubular and have pretty good ground clearance. Does anyone here have them? I should get a set myself...
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    9. #9
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      I just installed a set of the Global West SFC's. I believe they are 1 1/2"
      tubular steel, that weld on the rear framerail and can bolt in the front. I ended up welding them up front too. They also come with new solid aluminum mounts for the front that are designed to work with these connectors. As far as "hanging down", I bet they about the same as the DSE connctors, which is about as good as you'll get without chopping up the floorboards.

      Mike

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      There are several pics on my website that show/don't show the weld-in type connector. Mine are similar to the DSE.

      As the connector gets longer, system rigidity reduces. The same thing happens when the connections are changed. Weld-in types offers the best rigidity.

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      I have had the GW SC's on the 67 for about 15 years now and love them. I think if I had to do it again, I would use the vert connectors, because I think they fit and look better. There's nothing wrong with the coupe connectors, but the vert connectors make life a little eaiser when removing the front spring/spring perches of the rear leaf spring.

      BTW the material is 1 5/8.

    13. #13
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      I've got Comp Eng. bolt in on mine and want to switch to the weld in style. I really like the Dse ones but dont really want to hack into the floor. I've really like the GW's too....Not sure which way I will go...cant go wrong either way I guess.

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      does anybody know where I can order the GW SFC's for 2nd gen ONLINE???

      GW website is a pain in the backside IMO and the mailaddress on there didnt work....
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      Allen Ortega
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    16. #16
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      I have a 69 convert Camaro and used the Comp Eng. subframes. We cut a notch for the SF in the converts cross brace that runs from the tranny tunnel to the outer frame, then tucked the SF up against the floor pan and welded the braces to the frames and front and backs. Very clean appearance almost "factory" and very rigid.

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      Thanks for that Allen, I ordered them right away!

      Martin
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    18. #18
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      Quote Originally Posted by Todds69
      I've got Comp Eng. bolt in on mine and want to switch to the weld in style. I really like the Dse ones but dont really want to hack into the floor. I've really like the GW's too....Not sure which way I will go...cant go wrong either way I guess.

      Welding the connector into the floor provides an added degree of rigidity. I had the CE bolt ons, and switched to DSE, the difference is day and night.
      I figure something that is going to make the car better is worth cutting the floor a bit.

    19. #19
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      I've got the DSE SC, but would go with the Global West SC's if you don't want to cut the floor....
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    20. #20
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      well....I ordered them....and cancelled again....price was $215,- not too bad...but the $200,- shipping was

      I think for that total I can have some made here (welded in)......shipping spoils it every time......
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