1967 Cougar Godzilla ZF 8HP70 swap

[andrewb70]

A book has many chapters, and one can argue that the Cougar story already has many chapters. Calling this chapter 2 doesn't seem fitting, as this is more like chapter 4, but whatever. Here is a link to the last few chapters:

https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/...es-and-videos)

Every journey starts with the first step, and here is the first step of this journey:






This is a 2021 7.3L Godzilla from a wrecked F250 truck. The plan is to keep the shock towers and the current front suspension setup. Engine management will be handled by the Holley Dominator ECU which will be integrated with the TurboLamik TCU that will control the ZF 8HP transmission.

I don't know how quickly this project will move, given our move to Texas in the next 60 days, but it would be awesome to have it ready for the Holley Ford Fest in late September.

Andrew

[rchaskin]

This will be cool setup!!

Sidenote....Does Holley make a twin trottle body tunnel ram for a godzilla yet????
LOL

[andrewb70]

This will be cool setup!!

Sidenote....Does Holley make a twin trottle body tunnel ram for a godzilla yet????
LOL

Sadly, they do not, but I like the current sleek hood.

Andrew

[ryeguy2006a]

This is going to be amazing!! Lots of buzz words in your new thread title!!

[705.0Merc]

Wow. Kudos for keeping the shock towers. Looking at doing the same swap later on. Looking forward to the build.

[langleylad]

That's what I call an step up and to pull it off with the shock towers in place is going to be a test. When I decided to go with the TCI set up was to make life easier plus I needed to rebuild the frontend anyhow. Did you still want me to send you pictures of the DSE QUADRALINK rear suspension upper control arm attachment mounts

[Zachalanche]

Very cool.

[andrewb70]

That's what I call an step up and to pull it off with the shock towers in place is going to be a test. When I decided to go with the TCI set up was to make life easier plus I needed to rebuild the frontend anyhow. Did you still want me to send you pictures of the DSE QUADRALINK rear suspension upper control arm attachment mounts

If you can, no rush...

I have been working with TurboLamik, for the last several month, on having full integration between the Holley EFI systems and the TurboLamik TCU. What this means is that the two will be connected with just 2 wires. This applies to the Holley Dominator and HP using V6 and also to Terminator X and X Max using V3. The Dominator and Terminator X Max are optimal because they have two CAN busses and DBW throttle.


The TCU needs information in order to make shifting decisions. Namely, it needs RPM, TPS, MAP, and torque output. Those are the basic channels that are a must, however, in order to make the transmission work optimally, the TCU needs to send messages back to the ECU.


The most critical is a signal to retard the timing during upshifts. This is commonly known as torque management and all modern transmissions implement this strategy, both for smooth shifting as well as transmission longevity. It can also be extremely helpful to retard the ignition during shifts to keep the tires from spinning during hard upshifts. With a very powerful engine, it can actually be pretty dangerous to upset the car during a full throttle upshift. This feature is now working between the TCU and the Holley ECU.


Another feature that goes along with torque management is throttle blipping on downshifts. This feature isn't strictly necessary, but it too will be available, although somewhat limited, because Holley...


The TCU will also send the following information: Gear, transmission temperature, speed, converter slip, and clutch slip. All of this information will be available to be displayed on any of the Holley digital dashes, not including the 3.5" handheld.





If there are any questions, please ask.


Andrew

[dhutton]

Nice work!

Don

[Vimes]

Excellent! Adding a Holley ECU to my project now if it can speak back and forth to the Turbolamik. I do have a question, can any of the Holley ECUs that can speak to the Turbolamik also handle dual DBW throttle bodies?

[dontlifttoshift]

The dominator can handle dual throttle bodies. Andrew has done it.

blipping on downshifts. This feature isn't strictly necessary, but it too will be available, although somewhat limited, because Holley...

Limited how? Can the converter unlock during downshift to make the rev match less critical? Is this only an issue when using paddle or sequential style shifters?

[andrewb70]

Nice work!

Don

Thanks Don. We are really looking forward to moving to Denton!

Excellent! Adding a Holley ECU to my project now if it can speak back and forth to the Turbolamik. I do have a question, can any of the Holley ECUs that can speak to the Turbolamik also handle dual DBW throttle bodies?

Yes, I used to have dual DBW throttle bodies on the Cougar when I built it 9 ears ago:

Limited how? Can the converter unlock during downshift to make the rev match less critical? Is this only an issue when using paddle or sequential style shifters?

Holley limits DBW offset to +10% (no limits on negative offset). In talking with Lukas, he seemed to think that this was going to be enough.

You are asking excellent questions, but I do not have the exact answers, yet.

Andrew

[Vimes]

Sweet.

[TerryH432]

Very cool! Subbed for updates!

[Zachalanche]

Or.............put the godzilla in the front of that ranger ;)

Andrew

[andrewb70]

Progress is being made. Scored some Mast Motorsports CNC ported heads for the Godzilla.









Still exploring various options for the cam. If anyone has some recommendations, I am open to suggestions.

Andrew