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    1. #1
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      Another DC Controls story

      After some mild apprehension, I too took the DC Controls plunge.

      There were two reasons. First, the temperature switch did not have the temperature range that was ideal for the engine. There are no switches available to do what I wanted, both from a temperature and fitment (thread size, connection, etc.) standpoint. The second is that when the fan was running at full power it took the idle speed down 100-150 RPM, which meant having the idle speed a bit to high in order to compensate.

      The controller is very compact, smaller once in-hand than what one would expect (even with the drawings.) Easy to wire, and great instructions. It is mounted totally inside of the MarkVIII fan housing, no wiring out the front like their website shows. Four small self-tapping screws inserted from the front hold it in place. With a full depth shroud, there is still over 1/2" of space between the contoller and the radiator.

      Best of all, it works exactly as advertised. With the temp probe set at 166* and inserted near the radiator output, the fan kicks in at 185* engine temperature. No more 15* temperature swings. Due to a bit of lag between engine and radiator temps, the engine temp dips to 180* before shutting completely off. There is little lag time between 180* and shut off, so over-cooling is minimized. I may experiment with some type of modified 3/8"-NPT fitting to mount in the head to fit the temperature probe into.



      The only thing it needs is a noise filter. Dummy me forgot to read the accessories page in detail and order one. It's real easy to tell via the stereo the ramp up/down speed of the controller.

      All in all, a nice part.
      VaporWorx. We Give You Gas http://www.vaporworx.com


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      Carl, was that the unit that varies the rpm of the fan or ramps up the voltage?
      Larry Callahan
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    3. #3
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      VaporWorx. We Give You Gas http://www.vaporworx.com

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      Carl,
      What alternator are you running?
      I know I will need to upgrade, but just curious.

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      CS

      Check my website for alternator type and mounting details.
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    6. #6
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      The cool thing about the unit is that since it reads the incoming coolant temp for the engine, you can always tell the difference in temperature and that can tell you how efficient your cooling system is. So a setpoint of 166* vs. 180 at the gauge means the motor is only building 14* worth of heat before it's circulated again. -Jabin
      Gmachinz Sales and Performance
      "updating the level of performance..."

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    7. #7
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      Is it me, or does 14* across a running engine seem to be to little...?

      My 383 small block, if my gages read correctly gives up about 37* . My DC controller, with the -32 jumpers installed, is set for 148* setpoint, and water leaves the thermostat housing at about 185*. I'm using an Edelbrock Victor series waterpump, #8811. Could be that it's on it's way out, and not flowing enough...could be. What waterpump are you using, Carl? Next waterpump I buy will be Stewart Components.
      I took the restrictor plate off to give the Red Dragon a little more Juice. But keep that on the Down Low, it's not exactly street legal.
      http://community.webshots.com/user/strokermotor

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      Same pump as yours. I got a deal on this one. Next time I'm trying a less expensive aluminum pump.

      My temperature drop before the fans start is less than 20*. 180* thermostat and the DC Control set at 16?* (don't remember the exact number.)
      VaporWorx. We Give You Gas http://www.vaporworx.com

    9. #9
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      Carl,
      I'm really intrigued by this controller. Got any install pics?

      jp
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    10. #10
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      Quote Originally Posted by parsonsj
      Carl,
      I'm really intrigued by this controller. Got any install pics?

      jp
      I put some pics up in an earlier thread:
      https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=10876
      I took the restrictor plate off to give the Red Dragon a little more Juice. But keep that on the Down Low, it's not exactly street legal.
      http://community.webshots.com/user/strokermotor

    11. #11
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      http://hotrodhomepage.com/?p=33&page=3

      Some pictures of my install. I have yet to wrap the wires into a loom, but you get the idea.

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      Geoff, engine,

      thanks! One of these puppies is in my future. Looks like I'll have an AAW dual relay fan harness for sale soon.

      jp
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    13. #13
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      John,

      If you are using a full height MarkVIII fan it will fit totally inside of the lower left section of the shroud. DC offers this option but the power hook up is external (power studs sticking out of the shroud), and I don't have room for that. Instead, I flipped it over, used some nice self-tapping screws, screwed through the DC mounting flange, and mounted everything inside of the shroud. The wiring exits through a grommet on the bottom of the shroud and heads to the right, toward the harness for the power and fan leads. It's pretty stealty.

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      Cool, thanks! I can see the screw heads. I'm using a Ron Davis dual fan unit .... I see the spot for it.

      jp
      ​John Parsons

      UnRivaled Rides -- Modern upgrades for your ride.

      UnRivaled Rides recent project -- LS9-powered 69 Camaro

    15. #15
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      Hey I saw in the jegs magazine that Flex-a-lite makes a variable temp fan control that ramps the speed up and down just like the dc controler and its 60 or so bucks. Whats the difference in the two. Just wondering?
      Justin, 68 Camaro Update:5 speed is in and neighbors are pissed!

    16. #16
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      I can tell you up front that the Flex-a-Lite controller is made in China and has a high failure rate. They don't feature a self-extinguishing epoxy (just in case there was ever some crazy short...) and the wiring is not able to handle high heat areas like the DC Controls unit can. This is the same controller they use intheir Black Magic dual fan set-ups as well with a couple more bells and whistles. If you talk to anybody who has dealt with manufacturing overseas, they will tell you about how the first couple batches of product turn out great but then the quality control goes downhill once a contract is signed. Admittedly, Brian at DC Controls thought about it but since he could not oversee the quality control, he decided against it. Yes, others are cheaper but imo you get what you pay for in this respect. Interestingly enough, I recently found out a major player in the cooling fan control aftermarket offered to buy his patent rights for his controller-he turned them down. You know you're on to something when the competition wants to buy you out! -Jabin
      Gmachinz Sales and Performance
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    17. #17
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      Nice to hear more positive feedback on this product. I am ready to buy one too. Jabin you have an e-mail.
      Adam_______Offical Car Name "ILLUSION"
      383 Stroker, Stock cast heads, T-56 tranny, 4.11 gears, 2002 T/A dash, 4th gen interior including seatbelts, power lumbar seats, 18" Budnik Wheels, Hydraboost, QA1 shocks, DC Controller, Power steering conversion, fuel cell, unique exhaust set up........
      ILLUSION Website-----------Old Website--------------My Car on Lateral-g.net----------- Need something designed?-AdFabDesign

    18. #18
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      Can the DC controls unit be set to run for a period of time or until a temp is reached AFTER the motor is turned off???
      67 Firebird Convert 455 +.060 Johnny Winters TH400 74cc KRE d-port flowed @ 310 cfm heads piston dished 16cc H-beam rods Comp Cam 305-AH-8 cam 108* LSA 253/260 @.050 duration .577/.594 lift w/1.65 rockers Ford 9" 3.55 Detroit Locker M/T Sportsman Radials 31x18x15 on Convo Pro 15x15s

      Honest dad that 455 on the side of the block is a serial number

    19. #19
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      Quote Originally Posted by 67 455 Bird ragtop
      Can the DC controls unit be set to run for a period of time or until a temp is reached AFTER the motor is turned off???
      The Acc switch that is usually wired to a 12 volt switched source, (so that it is on when you turn the key, much like a radio or amplifier) when it is wired to a constant 12v source fromt he battery (on all the time) will allow the fan to run with the car off. The fan will shut off when the temperature of water in the radiator cools below setpoint. The unit will turn off soon after that.
      From the DC Controls site:
      "Auxiliary wiring
      Ignition input

      The control unit will shut itself off automatically soon after the engine is turned off. If an Immediate shut off is required, connect the yellow ignition input wire of the harness to the unit and to any source that is higher than 6 v whenever the ignition is on

      Keep in mind that if you install the "Underdrive" jumper to allow for 10% fan rotation whenever the unit is on, you cannot use this feature. The unit will stay on always. You'd have to wire the yellow IGN wire to a switched source.
      I took the restrictor plate off to give the Red Dragon a little more Juice. But keep that on the Down Low, it's not exactly street legal.
      http://community.webshots.com/user/strokermotor

    20. #20
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      I just purchased my DC Controller and surge protector (since my battery is in the trunk) Cant wait to recieve it. Tired of messing with the relays and temp switches that arent reliable.
      Jabin, Check your paypal account.
      I sure do buy a lot of parts from this site and wonder why im broke.
      Adam_______Offical Car Name "ILLUSION"
      383 Stroker, Stock cast heads, T-56 tranny, 4.11 gears, 2002 T/A dash, 4th gen interior including seatbelts, power lumbar seats, 18" Budnik Wheels, Hydraboost, QA1 shocks, DC Controller, Power steering conversion, fuel cell, unique exhaust set up........
      ILLUSION Website-----------Old Website--------------My Car on Lateral-g.net----------- Need something designed?-AdFabDesign

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