Steering Uprade 67 Camaro

[expat_dude]

My next upgrade for my car will be the steering, I currently have the OE Manual unit.. . I have looked at the flaming river rack system (around $1500), would I be better of just getting a power steering unit instead? I would like to upgrade to one of flaming rivers polished columns as well..
Thanks in advance for any advice!:icon996:

[69Nova]

I have the same question. Also what parts would I need to just do the basic manual to power steering.

Andrew Petty

[MrQuick]

if you guys are just looking to do an easy stockish swap, go out to your local wrecker,find a 70-79 Camaro/Firebird/Transam check the lock to lock on it and find a 2 1/2-3 turn box.You won't need the shaft or pitman arm.

Then find a Nova 70-72 with power steering and grab the pitman arm...the arm on the steering box. You will need a big hammer (BFH#4) and a puller with necassary tool. Its an easy afternoon job...bring band-aids.

[vanzuuk1]

Vince , do those boxes compare to the dse stuff, is the "feel" any better? My 69 box has no feel , too light. Dse really makes thier box sound like a big improvement.

[Steve1968LS2]

The DSE box IS a big improvement.. I did the junkyard deal on my '67 Camaro (close ratio box from a 79 Z28) and it was a great improvement over the stock cruddy box and a GREAT bang for the buck.

But, I loved my 600 box that was in the '69.. It felt every bit as tight as any rack I have driven. AGR also makes some nice stuff. The only downside to the pick-a-part deal is that you don't know how worn it is and from an engineering perspective the 600 is better made than the older 800 boxes (Im my opinion)..

Personally I suggest the 600 box and a factory tilt column with a nice new rag joint.. but I guess I am just a bit old school.. lol

[Steve1968LS2]

Its an easy afternoon job...bring band-aids.

And hand degreaser

This is the best and cheapest way to have better steering.. Isn't there some sort of mark on the close ratio boxes.. like an X or something?

[CarlC]

Agreed. The 600 box is a huge improvement.

[MrQuick]

Lunch too don't forget you lunch....

Vince , do those boxes compare to the dse stuff, is the "feel" any better? My 69 box has no feel , too light. Dse really makes thier box sound like a big improvement.

Not sure, I can't comment first hand but I here they are very nice. For me I can't seem to justify spending more than $100 for a steering box. My favorite mod is using a 3rd gen box.Great feel.

[chicane67]

Agreed. The 600 box is a huge improvement.

And our new LEE 670 box is even better.... not to mention the price is much less than DSE's 600 unit.

[David Pozzi]

I'd go with either one of the new aftermarket boxes or a third gen box. You can get a rebuilt third gen box from the local auto parts store, get hose adaper fittings to use your stock hoses, a new rag joint must be used.
Here is an example.
http://69camaro.nextmill.net/steering.html HOW TO CONVERT FIRST GEN TO PS

[Steve1968LS2]

And our new LEE 670 box is even better.... not to mention the price is much less than DSE's 600 unit.

Another super secret ATS part?? My, you guys have been busy.. lol

Is it gonna be at SEMA?? You guys really need to keep me in the loop on this stuff.

[chicane67]

Yes, it is going to be at SEMA.

For new stuff related to any future parts..... see me.

[CarlC]

And our new LEE 670 box is even better.... not to mention the price is much less than DSE's 600 unit.

Geez.

So the next time you are at Tom's come on over and have a stogie. His place is maybe 5 miles away....

[chicane67]

We're hoping to do it before the end of the year...... cuz he's on vacation down under until further notice........

Lucky ole bas.... uh.... old guy.

[yody]

so what is differente about this new ATS box then getting one from LEE(besides lee taking forever to make anything LOL!!)

[cslithergo]

I just received my SpeedDirect.com rack and pinion. It can be used manual or power with all components to install included. It was around $1035 shipped. I have not installed it yet but the product looks to be of nice quality.

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[squid]

http://69camaro.nextmill.net/steering.html

I have ordered according to this site, yet to be installed. PS Box from Schucks, Moog from Summit, and Rag Joint from Rock Auto. Pump, hoses, cooler, and bracket from DSE.