Project 1968 Roush-Fenway Cyclone

[chunger]

Not too familiar with these "Yates Engines". It appears it's running the Yates High port cleveland style heads, but are they mounted on a windsor block? And is that a Super T-10 behind it?



Could you share more details of this engine/trans combo.

LOVE the build!

[Goodale Engineering]

Nice!.....is that a T101?

Did my PM come through?

Yes! Got your PM, thanks for the chassis paint code. We spoke at length about how exactly they paint these cars. From what I understand they stay bare metal until the body is on, then somehow manage to spray the interior and underside/engine compartment. On the newer Gen 6 bodies, they can actually remove them from the chassis.

Maybe I'll suggest that to Jim, I know I'll be able to remove from the fenders forward. As for the body, it will get a coat of primer and matte black wrap.

On the trans question, I believe it is a T101, it's a magnesium tex racing case, so I assume that's what I am working with. I sent it out last week with the shocks to my friend who works at Roush Fenway, he has a trans guy and will rebuild the shocks per their Sonoma setup.

[Goodale Engineering]

Not too familiar with these "Yates Engines". It appears it's running the Yates High port cleveland style heads, but are they mounted on a windsor block? And is that a Super T-10 behind it?

Could you share more details of this engine/trans combo.

LOVE the build!

Very good questions. Yates C3 heads, on a cleveland style SVO block. Not sure on deck height, probably 9.2?? This was what evolved from the 351 cleveland, with the early parts and pieces coming from Robert Yates and Ernie Elliott. After the C3 heads came the Yates D3 heads, now old technology. Currently they run the FR9 motor. As for the transmission, this is a T101 from what I can tell, square cut gears, dog box style. No clutch pedal on upshifts, rev match with some clutch on downshifts. Also old technology, as they now run Andrews transmissions.

Fun facts - Roush Fenway Racing rents their engines from Roush Yates engines every weekend to the tune of $80k
- Roush Fenway also leases their transmissions every weekend from Andrews, I believe they go for $40k a weekend.

[Goodale Engineering]

An update on the engine:

Successfully made it to the engine builder, got it completely torn down. Everything looked good, no immediate areas of concern, although there is evidence of a main bearing failure, and what appears to have been a broken valve spring. Right now this is on hold because I don't need it yet, planning to order parts/send parts out to have them freshened and get it back together by Jan. 2016.

[Goodale Engineering]

Chassis Completely Stripped Down

[Goodale Engineering]

Here's some quick pictures of the rear end, the Merc wheelbase measures 116" and the RFR chassis sits at ~106". The original plan was to stretch the ass end, and clip the fenders to make the chassis longer and car shorter. After talking it over last week, we still need to make up 3 inches, so the car is headed to Hess Racecars for a new front clip. Anyway, the rear end is done, I'll update pictures once the front clip is done. Almost time to start handing body panels!!

[chunger]

A Clevor nice!

What is the timing cover from? It appears to be a super thick casting of some sort?

[Godbolt]

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[Goodale Engineering]

A Clevor nice!

What is the timing cover from? It appears to be a super thick casting of some sort?

The timing cover is a magnesium piece from Ernie Elliott circa later 1980's, early 1990's. The engine builder's name is stamped onto all the parts, I forget but can check when I am back in the U.S. again. Anyway, the car sat in a storage unit for a few years in Detroit, and the timing cover is ruined. A combination of acidic antifreeze and dissimilar metals has eaten into the magnesium. I am in the process of sourcing another unit, hopefully I can get a hookup on something from Roush-Yates.

One thing to note is that it has specific mounting points for the dry sump pump, that's why an ordinary timing cover won't work. The new ones also include motor mounts, which is an advantage to getting a new one, as they cut the arms off this one with a grinder.

[Peter Mc Mahon]

What is the od and width of your tires? Same size front and rear?

[Cop Magnet]

Wow, and I thought I was guilty of just grafting an old body onto a new frame...this project is awesome!

[shortrack]

What is the od and width of your tires? Same size front and rear?

99% they are 15x10 x27" high. All four the same. same as mine

[Goodale Engineering]

What is the od and width of your tires? Same size front and rear?

Shortrack is correct, tires are wheels are 15x10, tires 27" tall. I have another chassis and the previous owner ran 26" tires up front, but they should all be the same height.

If I were running an oval, the RF/RR would be taller and LF/LR would be smaller, but this is going to see road courses mostly.

[Peter Mc Mahon]

Will the rims be DOT approved? I have been looking at Basett rims for my truck 15 by 8" but I am really thinking I want 10" wide but they are not DOT approved.

[Goodale Engineering]

Will the rims be DOT approved? I have been looking at Basett rims for my truck 15 by 8" but I am really thinking I want 10" wide but they are not DOT approved.

Ha, I don't tend to follow the rules, because these wheels are rated to go well over 200 mph, most "DOT" factory wheels certainly couldn't say the same. I run slicks on the street too, it is Arizona after all, it never rains.

Go for it, or go to roushyatesparts.com, they have race-used rims for $50 bucks, it's a steal IMO.

[Ghiaguy]

This is gonna be great ---- Keep up the great work

My friend picked up two zero lap cars, left over from Sonoma, and pieced them together from used parts from the different NASCAR teams -- Got the brakes from the Wood Brothers Daytona winning car for one of them -- -- then he went and put Chevy engines in them from Van Gordon -- go figure LOL

[Josh@Ridetech]

I have a new dream for my cars now..

[shortrack]

Will the rims be DOT approved? I have been looking at Basett rims for my truck 15 by 8" but I am really thinking I want 10" wide but they are not DOT approved.

You can buy brand new Aero's up here from Karbelt or Grisedale'a for $120 each avail in 1" offsets

[kerryt1]

Bump for updates.

[Goodale Engineering]

Unfortunately, no photographic evidence of progress. I am still overseas at the moment, but the tentative plan is to leave AZ with the engine, wiring, exhaust, etc. at the end of April, arriving in NC early may. The next thing I post will hopefully be dyno numbers, and a link to the dyno pulls. As it turns out, Metal Master in North Carolina scored a contract to build 12 trucks for the Nascar CWS, so the mercury has been collecting dust. I am trying to hustle them along, but it is a wise decision for them to focus on the some actual racecars for now. Target completion date is end of May, June 2016.