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      Air Bar?

      anyone here using an Air Bar rear susp. sys. from air ride? I've been looking at it for a while but I'm still not sure. it looks like a rather simple intall. something like this would be great on my '66 Mustang. I'm mainly looking to make a little more room in the rear wheel well so I can run a larger wheel/tire combo with the added benefit of ride quality and adjustable ride height.



      any thoughts?


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      Air Bar

      Well, I work at air ride so of course I am going to tell you how great it is. Jim and Mike Ring installed one on their latest creation and a few other cars as well, so I think they would have a fairly accurate and unbiased opinion. I can however, answer any tech. or install questions that you may have.

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      The ring brothers car had an awesome stance......

      We haven't installed an air bar YET? All there other products have been top notch! :icon996:
      KENNY DAVIS HOTRODS

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      Quote Originally Posted by darren@ridetech
      Well, I work at air ride so of course I am going to tell you how great it is. Jim and Mike Ring installed one on their latest creation and a few other cars as well, so I think they would have a fairly accurate and unbiased opinion. I can however, answer any tech. or install questions that you may have.

      well, for the most part, am I correct in thinking that the use of the Air Bar will free up some room in the wheel wells of my stang? I'm really trying to avoid mini tubbing just for the wheels. I'm not building anything drastic, just something with more tire under it. we all know how dainty the stock wheels are on '60's mustangs.

      also, what would you recommend for the front suspension?

      TIA for any info you can provide.

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      Quote Originally Posted by darren@ridetech
      Well, I work at air ride so of course I am going to tell you how great it is. Jim and Mike Ring installed one on their latest creation and a few other cars as well, so I think they would have a fairly accurate and unbiased opinion. I can however, answer any tech. or install questions that you may have.
      They ran the piss out of a car at the air ride deal and it seemed to handle real well..

      I think a lot of air ride stuff gets a bad rap because of the stima of the first air bag systems..

      Can't wait to do testing on one the systems eventually.. I think it shows great promise. Most of the naysayers go with the "what happens when the air in the bags heats up or cools down, doesn't that change the performance?" It's physics so I don't have a good answer. Thoughts?
      "A ship in port is safe, but that's not what ships are built for."

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      Projectpony,
      The 1 1/8" diameter lower bar bolts in place of the the 2.5" wide leaf so you will gain approx. 5/8". But I think that you will have fender well clearance issues before the leaf comes into play. I think that Bret has had as wide as a 305 on the back of his Silver 69.

      ps. I have a 70 Mach 1 428 SCJ on a rotisserie in my garage. UPS just dropped off the new pans and seat platforms yesterday. Can't wait to get started!!

      Steve,
      Damn straight we ran the piss out of that car. So much to the fact that we had to trailer it home. Turns out that we torched a couple of pistons. Were you at the Street Challenge? As far as the temp. & pressures changes go, in theory that is all correct. But in reality the effects are so minute that one would never notice. If in fact there was a great temp. change that increased the psi a bit, just let a couple pounds out.

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      was that the GSX that went home on a trailer or the silver stang?????

      Quote Originally Posted by darren@ridetech
      Projectpony,
      The 1 1/8" diameter lower bar bolts in place of the the 2.5" wide leaf so you will gain approx. 5/8". But I think that you will have fender well clearance issues before the leaf comes into play. I think that Bret has had as wide as a 305 on the back of his Silver 69.

      ps. I have a 70 Mach 1 428 SCJ on a rotisserie in my garage. UPS just dropped off the new pans and seat platforms yesterday. Can't wait to get started!!

      Steve,
      Damn straight we ran the piss out of that car. So much to the fact that we had to trailer it home. Turns out that we torched a couple of pistons. Were you at the Street Challenge? As far as the temp. & pressures changes go, in theory that is all correct. But in reality the effects are so minute that one would never notice. If in fact there was a great temp. change that increased the psi a bit, just let a couple pounds out.
      KENNY DAVIS HOTRODS

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      We have the shockwave for the stock front suspension. We just installed Total Control products upper and lower arms and they are really nice. Lowered the upper control arm mount an inch to get a little more camber gain as well.

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      Both. Broke the crank in the Yellow GSX.

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      Ring Bros. Mustang

      What did they use for the front suspension. My initial guess by looking at what appears to be a strut top would be Fatman setup with AirRide struts?

      Just curious!

      Thanks,
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      Yes that is what they used on that car. But of course we can use the factory suspension as well.


      BTW, we just ordered a new motor for the GSX. An aluminum headed Buick big block. Should be up around 650 ponies. And the stang is getting prepped for an all aluminum blown 427 small block. It should be up around 850hp.

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      Quote Originally Posted by darren@ridetech
      BTW, we just ordered a new motor for the GSX. An aluminum headed Buick big block. Should be up around 650 ponies. And the stang is getting prepped for an all aluminum blown 427 small block. It should be up around 850hp.

      are you guys going to bring them to INDY?
      KENNY DAVIS HOTRODS

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      Indy?? Goodguys? I'm sure we will.
      Trying to beef them up a little for the Street Challenge this year. Boris Said made a comment last year about the cars not having enough power....

      Then again, think about what he usually drives.

      Unfortunately he didn't get to ride in the Chicayne or the Blown 65 Impala, that would have changed his opinion.

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      Quote Originally Posted by darren@ridetech
      Indy?? Goodguys? I'm sure we will.
      Trying to beef them up a little for the Street Challenge this year. Boris Said made a comment last year about the cars not having enough power....

      Then again, think about what he usually drives.

      Unfortunately he didn't get to ride in the Chicayne or the Blown 65 Impala, that would have changed his opinion.

      cool just wondering if there would be some later model(older than 64) stuff to look at at the ADAMS MARK.....can't wait, we'll be there in the corner w/ the kegirator

      we are already planning on making the challenge this year...is there a date set yet?
      KENNY DAVIS HOTRODS

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      Indy Goodguys

      We stay in Indy all weekend and hang out at the Adam's Mark in the evenings. (My Dad likes the Oldies Music and dance).

      Save me a cup for the Keg!

      I hope to have my truck there, but who knows?

      I'd like to check out the Street Challenge - Darren can you send me some info on it?
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      The Street Challenge will be at Putnam Park again this year. We have not set a date as of yet, but it will most likely be in September. For this year it will still be invite only. So if anyone is interested, you can submit your vehicle online at http://www.ridetech.com/scentries/scentries.asp

      Travis,
      You don't have to worry about saving me a cup.....I'll bring my own.

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      Quote Originally Posted by darren@ridetech
      Travis,
      You don't have to worry about saving me a cup.....I'll bring my own.
      we'll have plenty

      I'll drop you an e-mail when it gets a little closer darren
      KENNY DAVIS HOTRODS

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      Quote Originally Posted by darren@ridetech
      The Street Challenge will be at Putnam Park again this year. We have not set a date as of yet, but it will most likely be in September. For this year it will still be invite only. So if anyone is interested, you can submit your vehicle online at http://www.ridetech.com/scentries/scentries.asp

      Travis,
      You don't have to worry about saving me a cup.....I'll bring my own.
      I had better get a darn invitation this year!!!
      "A ship in port is safe, but that's not what ships are built for."

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      Quote Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2
      I had better get a darn invitation this year!!!

      we need to get some bags on penny
      KENNY DAVIS HOTRODS

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      Quote Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2
      I had better get a darn invitation this year!!!
      A person of your stature doen't need one.

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