Build Your Ultimate Pro-Tourng Car

[toddshotrods]

I'll bite, but I have to share a previous idea. If I shared my real top secret plan I'd have to kill ya...

One of my former ideas:

Platform
Pontiac Fiero (base model notchback will due just fine for a base). Factory space frame cut down to the bare necessities, fully seam welded, and a 14pt cage welded in. Once the whole car is sorted out and tested in the cloak of moonlight it would be powdercoated a medium steel gray.

Front Suspension
Custom crossmember fabricated to replace factory piece, that swings C5-or-6 arms and knuckles (with C4 bearing/hub assemblies). Pushrods take the action inboard to double-adj Koni coil-overs inside the frame rails. Race type sway bar, 14" Wilwoods with six piston calipers, and stainless lines. Race optimized geometry through two-inches of travel. Brushed finish w/clear powdercoating.



Rear Suspension
Custom cradle swinging identical suspension components, 13" rotors and four-pot calipers. Brushed finish w/clear powdercoating.

Wheels/Tires
19 & 20" HRE's (545 I think), with 265 & 345mm Pirelli stickies for "normal" duties - and - a set of the same wheels in 16's for the dragstrip with ET Street rear rubber. The big size stagger in rubber is standard fare for a mid-engine car. Medium steel gray centers with brushed/ clear powdercoated lips.

Engine
10,000rpm Northstar, with a huge single hairdryer. Custom 8-1 stainless header with turbo mounting flange on header. Big intercooler, of course. Dry sump, billet crank, titanium rods, custom pistons, titanium valves, custom cams, CHRFAB Hemi style cam covers, sheetmetal intake with dual throttle bodies, Big Stuff 3 ECU. Brushed finish w/clear powdercoating.

Drivetrain
Aluminum flywheel, Quaife 6spd sequential transaxle, with custom billet bellhousing, QuarterMaster triple disc 7.25(?)" clutch, custom axles, brushed finish w/clear powdercoating on all aluminum parts.

Body Color
Lambo pearl green

Cockpit
Raw powdercoated steel (see platform), Carbon fiber dash, door panels, console, and seats. Patches of body-colored, but tough, fabric on seats. Carbon fiber and aluminum steering wheel, aluminum shift knob, brushed finish w/clear powdercoating on aluminum. Every Autometer gauge made. Fire system, and five point harnesses.

Special Features
All carbon fiber bodywork, closely resembling a notchback Fiero, with the "aero" front fascia. Completely smoothed and shaved. Full carbon belly pan with integral diffuser. Flush, C6/F430-style headlights.

Hmmm, why am I not building this??? On yeah, I have something better in mind

[MSchu]

1968 Camaro Coupe RS.
Flat black paint/carbon fiber/kevlar clear coated.
Front splitter, hood, fenders, deck lid, wing, rear diffuser made of carbon fiber/kevlar.
17x12 pin drive wheels w/ 335 slicks all the way around for the track. 335 Michelins for the street.
Full tube chassis, suspension, and roll cage based off of current Trans Am, ALMS, and Grand-Am Cup chassis, no NASCAR tech here.
Biggest brakes I can fit w/ ducts.
Interior: Stack guage, kevlar seats, belts, and HANS system. Only the essentials.
LS2 Kinsler injected, dry sump, backed by Hewland tranny.
Onboard air jacking system, onboard fire extinguisher system, cockpit adjustable brakes and sway bars.
Add working headlights, taillights, license, registration and have fun.

Ok, back to reality

[PeteRR]

Okay. You need:

-a clean '70 Satellite 2-door
-a complete Superbird kit including the nosecone, wing, and rear window plug
-a 528 Hemi topped with EFI and a centrifugal supercharger
-a Doug Nash 5-speed
-a Gear Vendor's gear splitter
-a Heidt IRS setup
-a front suspension setup utilizing NASCAR-spec brakes + power steering
-NASCAR slicks
-a 50 gallon fuel cell with the fuel door on the left quarterpanel
-a custom interior with a rollcage that follows the contours of the interior

Building a tube chassis to mount the sheetmetal on is always an option.

[squid]

Brand new Eclipse (Gun-metal Gray)
Transmission in rear (a la Corvette)
New C5R/Z06 Engine
C5-R similar Suspension(Adaptable to Street)
True Sequential 6sp Manual
All Magnesium/Carbon Fiber/Titanium
Everything in raw, natural color; no paint, just clearcoat
18's, Magnesium
Baer Brakes
Adjustable suspension(drive to track, change tires and adjust to race, adjust to drive home)

Gut body so all that exist is cage/body/motor/interior
Stock interior(MUST be comfortable and fit like a glove)
Alpine/iPod Sound, no subs(weigh too much)
Stock exterior
Sleeper, all will think it's a regular 4 cyl FWD import

NO POWER ADDER
NO SCOOPS
NO STICKERS

Keep it simple, nothing I could do without

Just body, drivetrain, cage, interior; able to drive all day in comfort, not luxury

Think the offspring of an Eclipse(interior/body) and a Corvette(C5-R)(The rest)

Not the fastest, but the most unexpected!

[strangler]

I dont want to jinx my 68 Chevelle project, so Ill dream of something different:


MGBGT- Full chassis with custom CA front suspension, coilovers, 3 link rear with narrowed 9 in. Channeled body and full, yet tasteful cage. Single turbo SB2 with a richmond 5 speed (short). 17's and 18's, 13" brakes.

Bright, hurt-your-eyes-yellow, with cage, engine, fuel cell, etc painted to match.

Maybe its just me, but the thought of a small, light, turbocharged go-kart sound like a lot of fun.

[Tiger]

A super gloss black 1937 chevy Coupe with C6 suspension and a twin turboed all-aluminum big inch small block chevy would be it for me.

André

[JohnnyGMachine]

OK guys, I'm comin' in from the Ford camp with something that's been in the back of my mind now for the last week.

1967 Ford Fairlane GT500 Street Fighter - The basis for this concept is to start with a '67 Fairlane GT and place a 500 hp Supercharged DOHC V8 from the new 2007 Mustang GT500 into the engine bay along with the 6 speed transmission. Next we're talkin' mini-tubs, 18" wheels, full cage, and loads of custom suspension components. Here's how I'd wave my magic Pro-Touring wand....

BODY MODS
- Custom carbon fiber Power bulge hood (can see it in my head right now...) to give clearance for the supercharger. Maybe integrate some extractors into the hood.

- Carbon fiber front fenders, doors and trunk lid.

- Custom carbon fiber rear splitter

- Custom aluminum front and rear bumpers. Pinch the ends of the bumpers in tight to the sides of the car along with tweaking the center front of the bumper with an integrated grill to accept air for the intercooler. Since I love to design custom bodywork onto vintage muscle, the front of the bumper would be cleaned up, lowered, and reshaped to help direct air into the intercooler.

- All the trim would all be removed and shaved off to improve airflow over the body.

- Custom fabricated aluminum rear spoiler

- Shaved door handles, and locks.

- Door vent windows removed and replaced with one-piece windows to really accentuate the hardtop "look".

- I'd have Marquez fab up some billet parts such as tail light bezels, and emblems.

- Custom candy paint - I'd have to think about this one more.

DRIVETRAIN

- 2007 Mustang GT500 Supercharged DOHC V8 and 6 speed transmission. The engine is said to be putting out atleast 450 hp, it would be "massaged" to 500 - hence Fairlane 500. I'm sure the motor could be made to put out more but for the sake of the concept and that my idea of a well balanced Pro-Touring machine doesn't require insane amounts of horsepower. Besides, a 500 hp. hi-reving 4 cam '67 Fairlane would be amazing especially when you hear the loud blower whine!

- The rear would be a custom one off heavy duty IRS rear end probably designed and built by Mark at Lateral Dynamics.

SUSPENSION AND CHASSIS

- Front would be all coil over with tubular upper and lower control arms.

- Custom built IRS for the rear

- Anything else needed I'd just got to ATS or Lateral Dynamics for consultation and construction.

- Wheels would be a three piece 18" wheel that I would personally design that would carry a slight retro touch but be all modern forged stuff. Fronts would be something like 18x9s, and 18x13s for the rear.

- Brakes - the biggest I can fit. I like Baer's stuff so maybe their new line of brakes they are producing.

- Custom fabricated full length headers, 3" stainless exhaust and racing mufflers. Center exit exhaust integrated into the carbon fiber splitter.

INTERIOR

- I'd design all the interior panels from scratch. They'd be clean, stylish, and carbon fiber . Again - I can see it in my head, I'll have to sketch it up.

- The dash would also be custom and created from carbon fiber. Custom guages and a steering wheel styled to look similar to the wheels.

- Center console would also be a custom carbon fiber piece.

- Seats would be a nice set of Sparcos with harness belts.

- The rear seats would be deleted

- Full custom roll cage

- Aluminum fuel cell and battery box in the trunk.

That's it for now. I think I'm gonna have to get somebody to build this beast!

[woody80z28]

-Platform
1980 Camaro Z28

-Front Suspension
Global West upper & lower A arms
air ride Tech air springs
Flaming River rack & pinion
poly bushings
KYB shocks

-Rear Suspension
air ride Tech 4-link (Air Bar setup if they ever produce it)
KYB shocks

-Chassis
Alston Racing subframe connectors
13" front, 11" rear disc brakes
fuel cell

-Wheels/Tires
Vintage Wheel Works 2-piece V45 17x8 and 17x9.5
275/60/17 and 245/60/17 rubber to fill out the wheel wells
M/T drag radials on Weld draglites for track time

-Engine
an LS7 would be perfect... but I still want to make it halfway reasonable on my budget, so...
383 stroker
Edelbrock aluminum heads
Edelbrock 3500 EFI setup
Procharger supercharger
Electric fan
Electric water pump
MSD ignition

-Drivetrain
T56 6-speed
aluminum driveshaft
3.73 posi
stock 10-bolt

-Body Color
GM Indigo Blue metallic
stock blue tri-color Z28 stripes
carbon fiber grilles, bezels and tail light panel would be a nice touch
shaved sidemarkers, door handles
rear spolier and rear bumper molded to the decklid and rear quarter

-Cockpit
78 dash w/o AC
Autometer C2 or blue Faze gauges
95 Camaro graphite leather seats
95 Camaro console
95 Camaro graphite leather shift boot & knob
95 Camaro seat belts
Stock interior panels covered in leather
Leather steering wheel
hidden rollcage welded to the body for stiffness


It might not be the best ever, but by god it would be sweet. 90% of it is stuff I actually plan on for my project or already have, let's see if I ever have the money to complete it how I want.

[Steve Chryssos]

Awesome concepts everyone.

[Rybar]

My dream project would be either a '56 Belair or '69 Camaro body on a new C6 Z06 chassis & suspension and a HC 427 LS7 would be enough power for me.

[DanT69]

My ultimate PT car would be a 1970 Camaro RS. It would appear relatively stock except a louvered hood, in the same manner as a '69 SS hood but in place of the faux velocity stacks I would do some indented louvres 3 on each side, and some vents on the fenders like on the 1980 above . No badges except a Ferrari style script "Chevrolet" in the middle of the tail pain between the tail lights. The interior would be a all custom dash, wrapped in tan leather black instrument panel. My basic theme is "Ferrari" so some sort of Ferrari style dash, with some polished switches for the various controls, a gated shifter and custom tan leather interior with black stitching.

Mechanically I would want a custom front subframe, coilovers, 13" rotors front and back with red calipers with a embossed "Chevrolet" on them. A independent rear-end, mini tubbed to fit some 315s in the back. Engine wise I would want a aluminium 427 small-block, with hilborn fuel injection converted to EFI, and T56 naturally.

Wheels would be some sort of 19" 6, or 8 spoke wheel with a lot of inset in the back. The car would be either ferrari red or black. Basically, my goal would be to create a car that would be like something chevy would have made if they built cars on the same level as Ferrari or Lambo. Im sure this has already been done but I still think it would be cool.

[ProStreet R/T]

71' Cuda with AAR spliter and small cowl hood.
Viper F&R suspension, 3.55 gears, Quaife diff
Stoptech 6pot F&R brake kit, 14" rotors all around
Moton coilovers
370ci R4/P5 small block (mopar Nascar engine)
Twin Innovative GT42 turbos
AEM standalone EFI
G-Force T-56
Kinesis K59 wheels, 18x11 and 19x13

Would make for a comfortable 750hp pump gas toy, aem traction control would be nice on street tires as well. Silverstate here I come Now where to dig up $120k... HMMMMM

[rocketman]

67 impala ss convert.

tube chassis
c-4 vette frt and rear
bear brakes
17/18's billet specialites stiletto's
275/345's
bilstiens (might bag it)

drivetrain
604 bbc efi pro charger all aluminun
4 in exhaust flowmasters

stock appearing body w/shorted windshied to make speedster look
ss camaro style cowl hood (late model)
sunsut orange (06 ls6 color)w/some minor graphics or factory ss

interior
custom dash (stock style)
auto meter gauges
custom seats
door panels
grey leather
roll bar
carbon fiber accents


just a little something to cruise the roads on sunday with the family.with a little hp.

[4OfaKind]

My turn. This is what I am cooking as we speak. Using the number 4 as my theme:

Platform: '56 4 door hard top
Suspension: 4 wheel independent / AWD using S10 front differential and suspension, Escalade transfer case, C4 rear suspension. Being assembled now. When I have pics, you will have pics. Coilovers at each corner. 4.5" Ride height.
Brakes: 4 14" rotors w/ 4 piston calipers
Wheels & Tires: 18x8" F / 19x10" R (Maybe rob the Z06 bin )
Drivetrain: 4.4L 4v/cyl Northstar V8 SC. Remove the SC and add two T04 Turbos using the air/water intercooler. Turbos are in my garage waiting for a motor.
Transmission: 4L80 4sp w/shrifter of course
Body Mods: 2+2 Seating, SSR Dash, '57 Headlight buckets for cold air induction, '57 Trim, Suicide rear doors modified to operate like extended-cab truck doors, One piece glass in front doors, Completely shaved, Dual flip down taillights one for gas one for spare battery switch.

Below is Photochopped concept. Thanks DarkBuddah

I received this E-mail today on the N* V8 SC. Got to start saving my pennies.

The Northstar LC3 Production Engine is slated to be ready for sale as a crate on 10/26. You can give your dealer a call then to order - part number 17802896. MSRP is $15,500 - but be sure to check with your dealer as that price is "suggested" and your dealer may offer it for less.

If you have any further questions, let me know.



Cheryl McCarron

Assistant Manager, Communications

GM Service and Parts Operations

mail: [email protected]

[JohnnyGMachine]

By the way, good idea for a post. I like the stuff that makes ya think!

John

[larknut]

I have thought of pro-touring my '76 suburban. I'm not sure if the outcome would be what I would want it to be (handling/performance), but I like the concept. I know its a big, heavy, turd and would probably never amount to anything, but I guarantee it'll be the best handling/fastest '76 burb out there. Dare to be different, right?

FRONT SUSPENSION:
Full custom boxed frame with tubular upper and lower A-arms. Not sure which to go with, bags or coilovers. 15" 6 piston brakes

REAR SUSPENSION:
Full custom boxed frame, standard or triagulated four link, again bags or coilovers, matching 14" for the rear.

WHEELS/TIRES:
20"/22" combo. Five spoke design with black or gray center and polished lip. As far as tires go, thinking 275/45R20 for the front, 325/40R22 rear.

ENGINE:
Blown 454 BBC with EFI. (This is the least thought out part of the "build")

DRIVETRAIN:
TKO 600 (I would love to bang gears in a big truck) or on the modest side a 4L60E

BODY:
Mostly stock. Shaved marker lights, smaller mirrors, power windows, smoothed bumpers and a tubbed rear for more tire clearance.

PAINT:
I have two ideas: Entire body in a flat black, or a stock type two tone red/white.

[vanzuuk1]

My dream car would be the complete opposite of what I am building.

Take a mclaren f1 car and a 69 camaro coupe and "blend" them.

silver/ grey/ orange paint scheme, carbon fiber silhoutte body.

ground effects chopped top , rear diffusers, wings, flush mounted glass.

interior like a gtp car , full cage and carbon panels,twist shifter, full race seats.

Ridiculous high reving turbo small block hooked to six speed auto.

giant o. z. wheels.

tire warmers optional.

[suh weet]

Alright, here we go! I got to go old school on this one.

PLATFORM: '33/'34 ford tudor sedan (got to have a back seat for the rugrats), chopped, channeled, fenderless

SUSPENSION: Wayne Due, can you help me on this one? I want a trick c4 font and rear.

WHEELS/TIRES: about 285 on the front on 18's, the biggest nastiest meat I could find for the rear, maybe 335 on 18's or 19's. The wheels would be a Saltflat/Halibrand type

ENGINE: There are some pretty awesome motors out there, and a new LS7 would rock, but I want to keep the motor Ford based, so it goes like this: 2003 cobra 4.6 DOHC blown demon of a motor with side pipes, with a T-56

COLOR: Either old school black or titanium.

COCKPIT: hidden complete rollcage, black leather flofit seats front and rear, black suede headliner

Man, this is making me moist, I have to think about something else!

[wantahertzdonut]

I think I'll be the only one who'll pick this car, a 1978 Ford Falcon Cobra.

-6 point roll cage
-subframe connectors
-Global West tubular upper and lower control arms with coil-overs
-17X10 front and 17X11 rear wheels (something that looks like Raceline GT's with knockoffs
-295 front and 335 rear (no tubbing necessary on these cars!)
-Watts link rear suspension with 5-leaf springs
-Racing seats with 4pt harnesses
-Full aftermarket gauges
-5.4DOHC with aluminum block and twin turbos
-T-56 6sp
-4.10:1 Ford 9" posi

[bnickel]

i'll see the 78 cobra and raise you a 74 XB-GT, mad max style without the funky fiberglass front end, though.