Classic American Muscle Weekends at SCCA Events

[nokones]

I just learned that SCCA may be planning on hosting a multiple segment type events such as what USCA is doing with the optima Ultimate Street Car Challenge events. What I understand is that the event will be part of a National series and will have more than an autocross event and this series will be conducted separate from their National and Match Tours, and Pro-Solo Events.

I wasn't able to ascertain what type of events they are planning to do during an entire weekend. Apparently, they are looking into large autocross sites such as airports throughout the country to host this series. Also, it is my understanding that they may have a a series sponsor such as Speedway Motors.

This sounds exciting. Does anyone have any information on this?

[rustomatic]

That sounds awesome--I've been told that the SCCA owns Thunderhill, so that would probably be a plus. If the USCA is successful, I'm sure that the SCCA will be motivated to expand offerings. I'll hope to hear more on this...

[Tomswheels]

Sounds like a blast Kenny, might be time to sell the C4 and buy something that is actually Classic American Muscle!

[CA B4C]

No Tom, No. Let him run the C4. If Ken has to dust off his 1LE third gen we're all toast ...

[IndyDave]

I just learned that SCCA may be planning on hosting a multiple segment type events such as what USCA is doing with the optima Ultimate Street Car Challenge events. What I understand is that the event will be part of a National series and will have more than an autocross event and this series will be conducted separate from their National and Match Tours, and Pro-Solo Events.

I wasn't able to ascertain what type of events they are planning to do during an entire weekend. Apparently, they are looking into large autocross sites such as airports throughout the country to host this series. Also, it is my understanding that they may have a a series sponsor such as Speedway Motors.

This sounds exciting. Does anyone have any information on this?

I do, I can't say yet because not everything is in place. I will say it won't be like you describe but will be very cool none the less. Stay tuned.

[nokones]

Sounds like a blast Kenny, might be time to sell the C4 and buy something that is actually Classic American Muscle!

I actually own a real Classic American Muscle. I have a 66 Mustang but, it is not an autocross car. It is pure stock with all the original equipment.

Also, I'll never sell the toys.

[nokones]

That sounds awesome--I've been told that the SCCA owns Thunderhill, so that would probably be a plus. If the USCA is successful, I'm sure that the SCCA will be motivated to expand offerings. I'll hope to hear more on this...

Thunder Hill is owned by the San Francisco Region of the SCCA.

[Quikbrd]

Well, it all sounds great, USCA is a blast, thee Shelby club puts on a great event and I think there is room for even more events!

[TheJDMan]

I think SCCA recgonizes that the times are changing and new organizations such as NASA are appearing every year. In order to keep up and remain relavent they have to make changes. I'm excited to see what they come out with.

[tazzz25906112]

Wow and the potential market gets split yet again.... Guys I like the idea of events don't get me wrong but stop and think about this guys... If the market keeps splitting and fragmenting (ie American Street Car Association, Ultimate Street Car association, Orange Cone Racing, current SCCA classes etc) where are all the people to fill the events going to come from.. Currently it is a challenge to fill an event and if this keeps going no one will have the stones to rent a facility to host these darn things...

I sure don't know about you, but if someone asked me to run an event and put my bread on the line to rent a facility in Jan for a mid year event on the hope that enough people come along to break even I'd say "See Ya Later"... You put your bread on the line way ahead of commitments from the community and hope they like your deal .. I hope and pray the whole darn thing doesn't just evaporate right out from under us... There really needs to be a better way with this mouse trap so to speak or we may very well see it all go away....

Ask yourself,, would you put your personal money up and take the risk right now on running an event in 2015??? Likely not.... If so I sure hope I see your name/names on one of the organizations sponsor list this year because they will go away if things keep moving in the current direction by sheer attrition if you look to probabilities.... I know I'd prefer less events and have them run properly personally... Guess it's a case of """careful for what you wish for""" here gang......

[dontlifttoshift]

Albert, you're right, but what will happen is the good events will stay full or get full and the not so good ones will go away. Motorstate is always full.

[IndyDave]

While I can't say much right now, agreements are handshake agreed to but no ink to paper yet, the approach the SCCA is taking is much different than what USCA and others are doing. What SCCA is planning hopefully will help increase the pool not siphon from the existing pool. What Tommy is saying is correct also, the good events will grow while the poorer events will have to get better or go away. It's all good.

[tazzz25906112]

I sure hope so guys...... Not many so ready to step up and put the money down on a track with no guarantees of any kind of break even... These tracks cost quite a bit and there is not that many days out there, not to mention insurance costs. Hey I'd love to see this whole thing grow and work out,,, I'm just honestly worried we're trying to grow too fast....

[GrabberGT]

Anything that bring more events closer to home is good in my book. If you're in the "travel budget limited" pool with me, you understand where I am coming from. The next closest Pro-Touring event to me is 10 hrs away. I have no trailer and taking the risk and extra days off work to make the drive in addition to other travel expenses, makes doing multiple events uneconomical. Hopefully this will allow more people to attend events thus growing the base population of Pro-Touring enthusiast which will in turn grow other events as well.

[Gratefuldiver]

Anything that bring more events closer to home is good in my book. If you're in the "travel budget limited" pool with me, you understand where I am coming from. The next closest Pro-Touring event to me is 10 hrs away. I have no trailer and taking the risk and extra days off work to make the drive in addition to other travel expenses, makes doing multiple events uneconomical. Hopefully this will allow more people to attend events thus growing the base population of Pro-Touring enthusiast which will in turn grow other events as well.

This is exactly how I feel. If I had a trailer, I might feel differently but I don't.

[Dave@RACEWARE]

This is exactly how I feel. If I had a trailer, I might feel differently but I don't.

Trailer and time expense will be more then running the events if you have to tow 13-14 hours like I will have to do. Chris I'm with you on the regional events they will to make a lot of sense plus SCCA has national points systems and national run offs. The BMW club I run with holds 5 events that are a blast to run and the longest tow is 4 hours most are within 2.

[SSLance]

I doubt that these new SCCA events being discussed for CAM car involvement are related to SCCA Club Racing. The SCCA safety requirements for Club Racing are pretty strict. More likely these will be Pro-Solo type events like the CAM Pro-Solo Invitational last fall. Events where an autocross car can compete, not a car outfitted for Club Racing on road courses.

[IndyDave]

SCCA is going to make an announcement early next week that will answer all your questions. I'll try to get the word out here if let me off the leash ahead of the formal announcement. WOW! I used the word announcement a lot in this announcement!

[72BBSwinger]

Anything that brings things down to a grassroots level is good for me. If I got invited to Vegas, I would have to pull in some miracle sponsorship to attend.

[KCG]

any news