Who offers brake pads for Wilwood W6A calipers? Cant find what i want.

[CTSV]

I wanted to install some Hawk Hp+ but spoke to Hawk and they do not offer a pad to fit these calipers unless someone else knows otherwise let me know.

also spoke to a Cobalt friction dealer about some xR1 and they said no as well

i honestly wanted to try pads that i have experience on rather than play guinea pig trying stuff out until i find what i like from another vendor

much appreciated for anyones input as these Wilwood W6a seem popular in the Pro Tour segment i am hoping someone can respond to this thread.

if my pad choices are very limited then i will be very upset

[Bad94]

Wilwood has 9 different compounds. Pad plate #6617

[Damn True]

Call Ron Sutton

[CTSV]

Call Ron Sutton

Who is this and what is his contact info?

[CTSV]

Wilwood has 9 different compounds. Pad plate #6617

I know i have only tried their bp10 v 20 and 40

When comparing with the specs on their site i dont see direct equals to the hawks or cobalts. Like i mentioned i would like to use a pad i have used in the past.

[Bad94]

I have there E pads, and they feel very close to the HPS that I had on my C5 stuff.

I know a few cars that run E pads for auto x.

[Rifleman_Racing]

Performance Friction can help you out. PFC used to be a part of wilwood till they left...

[Ron Sutton]

The W6A & Aerolite calipers from Wilwood are newer designs, so less competing brands have pads for them yet. These are far superior calipers to the Superlite designs Wilwood has offered for decades. As these new calipers become the new standard of performance street car braking from Wilwood, everyone will sell pads.

In the meantime, Wilwood offers 9 compounds, and in my experience, they're a great selection of pad characteristics & CoF's. If you like how well the Hawk HP+ pads work at cool rotor temps, you'll like the Wilwood "E" compound. Both of those are good street & autocross pads. For road course track days, I'd recommend the BP-30 if you have enough tire for it.

[Cobra 498]

The W6A & Aerolite calipers from Wilwood are newer designs, so less competing brands have pads for them yet. These are far superior calipers to the Superlite designs Wilwood has offered for decades. As these new calipers become the new standard of performance street car braking from Wilwood, everyone will sell pads.

In the meantime, Wilwood offers 9 compounds, and in my experience, they're a great selection of pad characteristics & CoF's. If you like how well the Hawk HP+ pads work at cool rotor temps, you'll like the Wilwood "E" compound. Both of those are good street & autocross pads. For road course track days, I'd recommend the BP-30 if you have enough tire for it.

I am using Wilwood "E" compound pads for autox and do not like them, they have poor initial bite and are very tough to modulate without brake lock up. This may be due to many other factors
like car weight, rotor size, caliper and master cylinder area etc. The road race pads (BP-20) felt much better but of course that was under road race conditions where that pad was up to temperature. I am looking at Carbotech Ax6 for a replacement.

[CTSV]

Hi Ron my brake system is full manual and i have plenty of tire front and rear 295 up front and 345 out back pilot super sports.

What pads would you suggest that will work well around town and on the highway or high speed straight slow the car down with great bite and no fade? Also for aggressive autocross . I am very use to the brakes on my CTSV and C7 Corvette along with my other cars so in laymans terms i kinda want that bite from my modern cars to come from my lighter manual brake pro touring mustang. I know this is a tough comparison since modern cars are power boosted but i have had many manual brake cars over the years with Hawk HP+ and they stopped incredible and i am just trying to get that back.

in my past experience i really liked the Hp+ and Cobalt XR1 but every manufacture may share similar attributes on paper but from my experience it isnt like one brand will make an identical pad compound to the others. I guess this stuff is proprietary to some extent.

clearly i don't want to spend $500 just to keep trying pads out as this can get very expensive quickly.

[Ron Sutton]

Hi Ron my brake system is full manual and i have plenty of tire front and rear 295 up front and 345 out back pilot super sports.
G+ood tires of good size.

What pads would you suggest that will work well around town and on the highway or high speed straight slow the car down with great bite and no fade? Also for aggressive autocross .
That's a lot to ask of one pad compound. A pad that is great around town, will fade with high temps. When you say "great bite" ... are you talking cold, like for autocross? ... or after they have some temperature in them?

I am very use to the brakes on my CTSV and C7 Corvette along with my other cars so in laymans terms i kinda want that bite from my modern cars to come from my lighter manual brake pro touring mustang. I know this is a tough comparison since modern cars are power boosted but i have had many manual brake cars over the years with Hawk HP+ and they stopped incredible and i am just trying to get that back.
The Wilwood E pad will be the closest pad to the Hawk HP+ from Wilwood, but E needs more clamping force from the braking system to achieve the same initial cold bite & braking force as the HP+.

in my past experience i really liked the Hp+ and Cobalt XR1 but every manufacture may share similar attributes on paper but from my experience it isnt like one brand will make an identical pad compound to the others. I guess this stuff is proprietary to some extent.
Both of these points are spot on, which makes it tough. Tobin likes to say you never really know how a pad works for you until you drive it & that personal preference of the "feel" each individual looks for plays a big role.

clearly i don't want to spend $500 just to keep trying pads out as this can get very expensive quickly.

I'm not sure you have a choice. I would recommend the E pads as a starting place, but you may not like the feel. Have you driven the car yet on any brake pads? ?

[Ron Sutton]

Another thought I had is ... if you're looking for even more bite than the Hawk HP+ pads (because the Wilwood E's will have slightly less bite & CoF) ... is to run the Wilwood "H" race pads. They have mean initial bite, but wear quicker & dust up pretty bad ... because they're a race pad.

The "E" pads will work well if you have 3500#+ braking force.

[CTSV]

Bit the bullet and got some carbotech ax6. I left my bp20 pads in the rear. I drove the car today it stops incredible now during very fast driving. Dusty but i dont care now my manual brake car hauls me out of my seat hard which is what i wanted. The modulation is pretty good as well and only fully lock if you stand hard on the pedal otherwise they stop hard and straight. Il put more miles on over the next few days

One question for Ron or anyone here the AX6 pads have much less brake compound on them than the Wilwoods. Almost 1/4 inch less meat. Can anyone explain why?