2013 camaro console and gauges in a 1969

[Bd69]

Hey guys and gals new too the site.Im putting a ls3 in a 1969 camaro. My question is how would I hook the gauges from the 2013 camaro console to the ls3 wiring thanks

[Schwartz Performance]

Not 100% sure on this one but a lot of newer cars have the gauges run by the body control module. If you had pictures of the back of the gauges, or the main connector, we may be able to help direct you better.
-Dale

[jwcarguy]

you could always modify a center non-gauge panel and use better aftermarket gauges

plus the factory gauges are oil pressure, oil temp, volt and trans temp (may not be your choices??)
would have to run factory sensors

and as dale mentioned, they may have to be run through the BCM ???

here is a pic of my Gen 5 console conversion in my 68' Camaro with LS2/ T56

[Bd69]

That console looks great and I love the shifter do you think it would look the same in a 69. I don't have the console and gauges I was trying to decide on weather to go with factory gauges or not

[Munssey]

Indeed, very clean job!

Total side note detail
(i'm always so nervous to have a bunch of keys on my ignition ring because it may scratch the metal dash (which is kind of already scratched in mine)

[jwcarguy]

That console looks great and I love the shifter do you think it would look the same in a 69. I don't have the console and gauges I was trying to decide on weather to go with factory gauges or not

I choose to go with the Autometer gauges in the setup that suited my application, so as not to be commited to just the stock gauges
Plus, I still needed a fuel gauge!!

[jwcarguy]

Indeed, very clean job!

Total side note detail
(i'm always so nervous to have a bunch of keys on my ignition ring because it may scratch the metal dash (which is kind of already scratched in mine)

I agree with your "side note"
That pic was from, just after swap completion and new wiring harness/ ignition switch
just had most keys together until I sorted out everything

thanks, Jeff

[TonyV]

hey i love this look.....you did a great job of updating but not going over the top. what aftermarket A/C unit are you using and is there clearance issues with console?

again great job!
Tony

[jwcarguy]

hey i love this look.....you did a great job of updating but not going over the top. what aftermarket A/C unit are you using and is there clearance issues with console?

again great job!
Tony

Thanks alot Tony!
I appreciate it!

I just had to scribe/ fit the console side panel cover to the new Vintage Air Gen IV Surefit unit, which was very easy, just take your time

Thanks, Jeff

[Bd69]

Just a quick update I spoke with gm and they said there is no way to use the computer wiring to hook up the gauges so I will have to use aftermarket sending units.thanks for the help

[Motown 454]

Bd69 I'll be watching for any updates if you try this in your car.
Jeff; That looks awesome in there. Nice work!

[TonyV]

Thanks alot Tony!
I appreciate it!

I just had to scribe/ fit the console side panel cover to the new Vintage Air Gen IV Surefit unit, which was very easy, just take your time

Thanks, Jeff

good info Jeff....remember imitation is flattery....so i got my console through Ebay last week and i'll march down the path you carefully laid out for all of us....specific to your last response on clearance with the A/C... my concern was that i'm thinking about putting my ISIS system between the firewall and console...so imagine the ISIS boxes will be directly below the ashtray area. Not sure how much space the A/C unit consumes in that area. BTW the vintage A/C is Phase 2 (i'm running out of money for phase 1) that's why i can't trial fit it myself. thx again....

[jwcarguy]

good info Jeff....remember imitation is flattery....so i got my console through Ebay last week and i'll march down the path you carefully laid out for all of us....specific to your last response on clearance with the A/C... my concern was that i'm thinking about putting my ISIS system between the firewall and console...so imagine the ISIS boxes will be directly below the ashtray area. Not sure how much space the A/C unit consumes in that area. BTW the vintage A/C is Phase 2 (i'm running out of money for phase 1) that's why i can't trial fit it myself. thx again....

Tony

If it helps you to know that I have the gen 3 "411" pcm mounted under the 4gauge pod in the console
Used a factory GM Sierra pcm mount, trimmed a few "ears" off and mounted it to the top of the trans tunnel and the two relay/ fuse boxes for the engine controls are mounted just to the left of the end of the A/C unit, but away from the throttle cable
I have them mounted with studs welded to firewall prior to smoothing/ finishing

Hope that helps
I can take pics also if needed

Thanks
Jeff

[TonyV]

Tony

If it helps you to know that I have the gen 3 "411" pcm mounted under the 4gauge pod in the console
Used a factory GM Sierra pcm mount, trimmed a few "ears" off and mounted it to the top of the trans tunnel and the two relay/ fuse boxes for the engine controls are mounted just to the left of the end of the A/C unit, but away from the throttle cable
I have them mounted with studs welded to firewall prior to smoothing/ finishing

Hope that helps
I can take pics also if needed

Thanks
Jeff

thanks Jeff, good info....to add to my issue....i raised the tunnel 2" to fit the T56. If you have any pics i'd appreciate it

[jwcarguy]

thanks Jeff, good info....to add to my issue....i raised the tunnel 2" to fit the T56. If you have any pics i'd appreciate it

Tony here are a couple showing the clearance between the top of pcm (mounted on stock height tunnel) to the lower console assembly
Also, a pic showing the relay/ fuse boxes mounted to the firewall behind the "hose manifold" of the Vintage Air Gen IV unit

I can take a email more if you need

hope this helps, Jeff

[TonyV]

Thanks Jeff...eye opening with regards to how little space there is once you get every thing in place.

Here's what i'm looking at for space.....




here's what i'm looking at given the constraints in space....put the Holley ecu under the console and place the ISIS boxes under the seats...

[scott_fx]

this may not be for you, but gm using a really simple and common stepper motors on their new guages. you can tap off your new ls engines obdII port and get readings for those gauges. then you would have to write a simlple-ish code to control the stepper motors using an arduino. it would require you to tap into the steppers that are there... or you could just cut them out and use new ones (they are like $6 each)

I could help you if you wanted to try to learn how to do it.

Hmmm... actually, are they controllable from can-bus protocol?



side note, could you take some measurements for the area that is around the cupholder?