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SicMonte
07-27-2005, 07:49 AM
well...the time has come...after owning a monte carlo since I was 18...I have decided to get rid of it (or at least put her in storage) at the end of this season.

I plan on buying an 80's era chevy truck....could this be made into a pro touring vehicle? If you all have any pics...bring em on!!!!!

jy211
07-27-2005, 07:51 AM
how about a 70's style truck? :hmm:

go look in the for sale section for a post by me with a link to pic's....

CAMAROBOY69
07-27-2005, 08:54 AM
Some members say that its not classified as pro-touring but I dont think I agree with that at all. But I do not intend of starting any argument. I say make it if you want and most of us will enjoy it. :)

astroracer
07-27-2005, 11:03 AM
I am from the "Dare to be Different" crowd myself. My Astro is probably as far out there as you can get and my truck has surprised a few hardcore 'Vette guys as to how well it handles... I say build it as you see fit... Call it what you want. It's your vehicle...
Mark

THX 138
07-27-2005, 11:36 AM
80's chevy trucks were pretty much the same as the 70's.
74-87 was one generation the subrubans and blazer of that gen lasted till around 91

Blitz
07-27-2005, 03:06 PM
I think even if it wasn't technically or commonly classified as "pro-touring" it would and very much could be just as badass. Imagine a sleek and smoothed truck lowered just over say 19 or 20" TT2's or better yet a set of 19/20" Billet Rally wheels, big brakes, upgraded suspension, late model force fed engine, billet grill, shaved, body colored toneau cover, bumble bee stripe, roll pan...I could just keep going. I think it's a DAMN good idea seeing as how I've always liked the body style and "would if I could". Too many ideas, not enough money. Go for it man. Please.

Wasn't somebody doing something similar to this? Basically I just remember alot of suspension shots. Think the truck was grey in color.

Nine Ball
07-27-2005, 06:21 PM
Do a search, this topic on trucks being pro-touring has already been discussed.

Personally, I don't think trucks can be classified as pro-touring. There have already been hundreds of lowered trucks with awesome suspensions, brakes, and power under the hood before, they are called "Sport Trucks". Look back at the factory ones like the Syclone and Typhoon for examples. The upcoming Trailblazer SS AWD will be another. Sport Trucks have been popular far longer than pro-touring cars.

BuddyP
07-27-2005, 08:36 PM
Calling the GMC Syclone and Typhoon a "sport truck" is no different that calling a Camaro a "sports car". They scooted like mad and handled quit well! I don't see any reason a truck couldn't be classified as PT. I don't doubt that there are some trucks out there that would out handle some of the cars on this site. When you modify a Camaro it becomes PT.... so why would a truck when modified in the same way be called anything different?
If you have a car and truck that can pull .90g's on the skidpad, brake 60-0 in 120ft and run the 1/4 in the 13's what's the difference? The only difference is one is shaped like a brick... but that's where it ends.

BlazerSpeed
07-27-2005, 11:16 PM
very well put BuddyP, personally when i think sport truck I think street only. these are the rides that never see any real track time. When Black Sunshine is finally finished (and God willing it will happen before 2025 :fingersx: ) i plan on running it at Route 66 Raceway in Joliet, if only to see what I've accomplished...sure hope I break 14's :yeah:
DEREK

Jagarang
07-28-2005, 04:16 AM
I like the 69 Chevy Picups...with a little chop off the top and a lowering treatment they look NICE! I just found this one with a google seach. Check out the article...this thing is AWESOME!
http://www.classictrucksweb.com/features/0404cl_69chev/index.html
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

My stepfather has a 1946 kinda like this......
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

CAMAROBOY69
07-28-2005, 04:17 AM
67-72 Chevy trucks were my favorite. :)

Streetking
07-28-2005, 05:37 AM
I have always loved trucks. I have gone through a few myself, except most of them were '91-'93 454SS. I have had about 10 in the last 8 years. I currently have a '91 454SS with 2300 original miles on it and it's all stock so far.. You can make a truck really look good and handle pretty well. Here are a couple I have built in the past few years. The red one was my fastest, 12.50@117 on street tires! I sold it to a friend of mine here in town, so I still get to drive it all the time..

SW
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2005/07/orig-10.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2005/07/orig-11.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2005/07/orig-12.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2005/07/orig-13.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2005/07/orig-14.jpg

69rs
07-28-2005, 05:45 AM
:eek: Dang SW, you just can't build a vehicle wrong! Those trucks look as good as all your other cars!:icon996: Maybe my 90 will look that good one day.

Travis B
07-28-2005, 05:50 AM
very nice SW very nice
I have 1989 chevy truck that is dropped 7,9 on 18's and 20's
It handles very well I guess the low COG doesn't heart anything!

SicMonte
07-28-2005, 06:05 AM
awesome trucks.....Im getting the 84 tomorrow....and i will post up some pics....this thing should scoot right along..b/c im putting the drive train from the monte into this truck.....400hp....oh yes.

I was also thinking about putting on a phantom grill....what do you all think of those?

SicMonte
07-28-2005, 06:06 AM
how about a 70's style truck? :hmm:

go look in the for sale section for a post by me with a link to pic's....



i saw it...too much for my budget

Nine Ball
07-28-2005, 06:25 AM
When you modify a Camaro it becomes PT.... so why would a truck when modified in the same way be called anything different?
If you have a car and truck that can pull .90g's on the skidpad, brake 60-0 in 120ft and run the 1/4 in the 13's what's the difference? The only difference is one is shaped like a brick... but that's where it ends.

I disagree. I don't call my late model Camaros "pro-touring", even though they do the exact same thing you describe for that truck example. Sport trucks were being built far earlier than the phrase "pro-touring" was even an idea. Why would you classify them into some new genre just because its the latest hyped up description?

I feel that "pro-touring" should be reserved for converting classic cars and half cars (for the 'camino guys) into late model performing and comfortable vehicles. We shouldn't allow this classification to get so mainstream that we are now calling trucks, bikes, boats, go-karts, dune buggies, and skateboards "pro-touring".

My sport truck buddies would be pissed if I called their nice rigs "pro-touring". They know that sport trucks have been around longer.

BuddyP
07-28-2005, 06:47 AM
I disagree. I don't call my late model Camaros "pro-touring", even though they do the exact same thing you describe for that truck example. Sport trucks were being built far earlier than the phrase "pro-touring" was even an idea. Why would you classify them into some new genre just because its the latest hyped up description?

I wouldn't call late model Camaro's PT either unless Suspension, Brakes and motor have been enhanced in a track performing matter... same with trucks. Forum member "MyClone" may have a view on this as well (since he has a Syclone with perf. upgrades in all those areas). I would never call something the way it came from factory PT. If you build a truck with track racing in mind why can't you call it PT if a car built the same way can?

Not that any of this really matters anyway. It's all just opinions. Build what you like, call it what you want!

BlazerSpeed
07-28-2005, 11:18 AM
haha new genre of the PT movement: Brick Touring... :hammer: :hammer: :hammer:

personally you can call it what ever you want, its mine anyway
DEREK

myclone
07-28-2005, 12:10 PM
I dunno really... The term "sport truck" in the circles I am known to hang out in generally means a later model truck thats been lowered for appearances only, neon light tubes mounted under it, chrome/"billet" EVERYWHERE, stock or close to it drive line, and a big sound system that sounds like a bunch of people beating on a rubber raft with the ores. "Bolt on queens" are what I call em.

However, I do kinda agree that "Pro Touring" is reserved for classic iron that has been modded with killer suspension, brakes, updated power train, and some creature comforts (HVAC, PS, PB, etc) to make the car WAY better than it was when it rolled off the show room floor.

IMO its all in what you perceive as "Pro Touring" I guess and a classic truck could be considered PT if its not just lowered with bolt on parts to look low and there is a purpose to it being lowered. Later model trucks that have been given the PT going through are on the outer fringes of things much like the syclone/typhoon in that they prolly arent exactly what ppl have in mind when you say "Pro Touring" but they arent really poser "sport trucks" either.

Other than that no matter what you call it if youre building it like YOU want it then call it what you want until someone else starts paying for it then you can build it the way they want and call it what they want.

My .02

Blitz
07-28-2005, 12:32 PM
Geez Streetking, do you own ANYTHING slow and boring? Not only that, but 3, count'em 3 similar trucks? Will you be my mentor?
SicMonte- because I'm so curious, what kind of ideas do you have brewing already?

SicMonte
07-28-2005, 01:33 PM
Geez Streetking, do you own ANYTHING slow and boring? Not only that, but 3, count'em 3 similar trucks? Will you be my mentor?
SicMonte- because I'm so curious, what kind of ideas do you have brewing already?

lots and lots of ideas....

im puting my motor and tranny into it forst of all....and im gonna get a vintage air A'Csystem for it. As for the body goes...not sure yet. I need to do some research to find some nice examples of paint on this era truck. It is already lowered 3/6...so it has a nice stance...and im thinking some 20" rims...but who knows...im looking at the truck again tomorrow so ill decide more then.

Streetking
07-28-2005, 01:45 PM
one more, just sold it a couple of months ago.. '04 L 12.80's..
I used each of these trucks as my daily driver for many years and at one point, I actually had all 3 454SS.. I sold them all last year,except the 2k mile one, and bought the Lightning, kept it til 2 months ago and sold it to a friend..

SW
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2005/07/orig-15.jpg

ProTeal55
07-28-2005, 01:47 PM
I am partial to 55'' Chevy trucks.

Travis B
07-28-2005, 02:14 PM
I am partial to 55'' Chevy trucks.

we have one at the shop right now that I am bagging and putting big wheels on I will post some pics when finished

gen3bu
07-28-2005, 07:40 PM
ok then, they are not "pro-touring". let just say the a g-machine haulers.

what would you guys consider a nos'd/efi 355 sonoma with a/c, 3/3 drop, 16" f-body wheels w/ z-rated rubber? soon to have a gulstrand mod and cross ram 383 with twin nos plates.

it currently runs 12.9's @ 106, gets @ 20 mpg, blows 34*f from the vents in august, and out handles/stops a stock c4 vette!!!

so, what do you call it? i call it a daily beater/corvette nightmare.

kevin

SicMonte
07-28-2005, 09:45 PM
we have one at the shop right now that I am bagging and putting big wheels on I will post some pics when finished



awesome...definatelly post up pics of that!!

I have 59 apache pickup as well.....

race-rodz-inc
07-29-2005, 01:16 AM
one more, just sold it a couple of months ago.. '04 L 12.80's..
I used each of these trucks as my daily driver for many years and at one point, I actually had all 3 454SS.. I sold them all last year,except the 2k mile one, and bought the Lightning, kept it til 2 months ago and sold it to a friend..

SW


i see the pics of the ram srt 10 on your misc page.... i know there has to be a good reason you dont have one of them in your garage.

JohnnyGMachine
07-29-2005, 03:57 AM
Hey Street King - you'd get a kick outta this maybe....

John

Streetking
07-29-2005, 05:47 AM
Hey Street King - you'd get a kick outta this maybe....

John

That is sweet...

race-rodz-inc I had SRT-10, but really didn't like it. It was too big, wasn't that fast and as much as I love to shift, it would have been better with a automatic. The first day I had it, I took it to the track and ran 13.2@109. After 3 passes, the clutch was slipping. I was over at Hennessey's house and drove his twin-turbo SRT 4door automatic, that was a fun truck.

SW

race-rodz-inc
07-29-2005, 11:21 AM
thats cool.... i watched the vids of the venom srt's... wish ebay would let me list a couple non-vital organs..... i think it would make a great "farm" truck.

USAZR1
07-29-2005, 05:20 PM
one more, just sold it a couple of months ago.. '04 L 12.80's..
I used each of these trucks as my daily driver for many years and at one point, I actually had all 3 454SS.. I sold them all last year,except the 2k mile one, and bought the Lightning, kept it til 2 months ago and sold it to a friend..
SW

SW,do you have a full side shot of that Lightning you could email me? I'm trying to decide on what type of exhaust outlets I'm going to run out my car's rocker panels.
[email protected]

Blitz
07-29-2005, 06:23 PM
John-Damn man, yet another nice rendering in your arsenal. Do you just sit and come up with stuff or is it more of you only do that stuff as work now, since you don't/wouldn't have time as a hobby?

SicMonte-How about Gunmetal Grey (think Eleanor) paintjob with (20") Rally wheels? I think this would be super sleek man. Just a thought.

Air Daddy
07-29-2005, 07:37 PM
Pro-touring, G-machine, Street machine. Then there's the Rat-rod, Street-rod thing that's trying to divide the rodding community.
Just like Pro-street cars led to Pro-street trucks in the 80s, It looks like it's time for PT trucks.
Like they say, everyone has their own opinion.
As for this truck..... Call it what you will. I call it "the latest project."
It's funny I'm not really accepted by the truck crowd because the truck isn't low enough or high enough, and I'm not really accepted by the Pro-touring crowd because..."well, it's a truck"
You may not see me posting much but I think this forum is great!. Lots of friendly advice and excellent information.....even for a truck guy

JohnUlaszek
07-29-2005, 07:52 PM
Auto 4wd (essentially AWD)
4 wheel discs, upgrades on the way
Radix Supercharged 5.3 400+ ft lbs to the tires
2/3 drop, Hotchkis Sway bars, Bilsteins
265\60 18's on all four corners
FLT 4L65/Vigilante Torque Convertor
0-60 in 4.4 seconds
Daily driver

Pro-Touring, it's what you do.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

Blitz
07-29-2005, 08:58 PM
Air Daddy, it was Your truck I was trying to tell SicMonte about at the beginning of the thread. I still love the look of this body style Chevy thanks to my old school Truckin' magazine days.

SatisTraction
07-29-2005, 09:30 PM
Pro-touring, G-machine, Street machine. Then there's the Rat-rod, Street-rod thing that's trying to divide the rodding community.
Just like Pro-street cars led to Pro-street trucks in the 80s, It looks like it's time for PT trucks.
Like they say, everyone has their own opinion.
As for this truck..... Call it what you will. I call it "the latest project."
It's funny I'm not really accepted by the truck crowd because the truck isn't low enough or high enough, and I'm not really accepted by the Pro-touring crowd because..."well, it's a truck"
You may not see me posting much but I think this forum is great!. Lots of friendly advice and excellent information.....even for a truck guy

if it sat any lower your frame would be draging

JohnnyGMachine
07-30-2005, 11:27 AM
I think the pro-touring build style can apply to a truck...why not? You can have a pro-street truck can't you? To me pro-touring is just a build style. I think it does apply more to vintage muscle but is that only because there's SOOOO much room for improvement thanks to the aftermarket for vintage muscles? I don't wanna start a "what is pro-touring" thread but I think you're truck fits the mold. Nice ride man!

John

Blue70
07-30-2005, 12:21 PM
Does anyone have pictures of Chris Smith's (Smitty) 71 GMC truck that was featured in PHR's Sept 2002 issue? I don't know what I would call it other than COOL :icon996:

Blue70
07-30-2005, 01:06 PM
Here is a photo of the truck I was talking about above...
I don't know iwhat they called this back in 2002, but I think it is a good look to go for :dunno:
Yes, I know I have way too many magazines :ssst:

ScotI
07-31-2005, 01:25 PM
Pro-touring, G-machine, Street machine. Then there's the Rat-rod, Street-rod thing that's trying to divide the rodding community.
Just like Pro-street cars led to Pro-street trucks in the 80s, It looks like it's time for PT trucks.
Like they say, everyone has their own opinion.
As for this truck..... Call it what you will. I call it "the latest project."
It's funny I'm not really accepted by the truck crowd because the truck isn't low enough or high enough, and I'm not really accepted by the Pro-touring crowd because..."well, it's a truck"
You may not see me posting much but I think this forum is great!. Lots of friendly advice and excellent information.....even for a truck guy

Hey Frank . . .... It would seem great minds think alike.