'53 Plymouth Belvedere Build [Archive] - Page 2

53Vipette

04-06-2013, 02:23 PM

The UCA mounts are tacking as well as the motor mounts. I was able to start the LCA mounts and still need to finish the mates to both sides. I did get the hubs free of the stanchions to see how well everything. So far so good, just need to get the steering rack and finish the rest of the car.

Matt

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53Vipette

04-07-2013, 12:34 PM

I started mocking up the front Big Brakes, I'll run the stock brakes for a while as this turned out to be a bigger deal. I want to buy another set of uprights to modify to except these Brembo's. For those wondering I did slightly modify the calipers and intend to do so on the uprights. I won't disclose the specifics on how or what we are doing to make this work until I am done. This is purely for mockup and I don't intend to drive this on the road with bolts that are to long and with stacks of washers!

Stay tuned for more.
Matt

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RogueFab

04-09-2013, 06:54 AM

I can't figure out why the front upper A-arm/wishbone mounts are in single shear on the Corvette... If it worked there I am sure it will work here though. Seems like it would be flexible.

SShep71

04-09-2013, 07:40 AM

Double sheer is always a better option when packaging and weight are not an issue. It does depend on the dispersion of the load and the directional loading of the bolts in sheer that will determine the fatigue rates and yields. In this setup where the centerline of the a-arms pivot sticks out only a minimal distance past the mouting surface for the wishbone ( where the bolt in single sheer is at its strongest) "flex" is not a real issue. The shock and spring absorb the vertical forces and act as a non stationary fulcrum. However the farther the distance between the mounting surface and the pivot (in this case)...the forces will be increased and the yield as well as the fatigue rate will suffer.

ochohill

04-09-2013, 08:31 AM

SShep71

04-09-2013, 12:02 PM

I have to agree with Ochohill on this one, at least a small triangle or fish mouth gusset layed horizontal from the top of the mounting surface to the vertical support of the side of the mounting surface. If you could figure out a creative way to put those bolts in double sheer I would go for it. Espically the way they are spaced away from the mounting surface. Never skip on safety right! Just my .02. Looks great Matt!

53Vipette

04-09-2013, 12:07 PM

The LCA mounts will be in double shear, I just got lazy and still need to cut the other sides. I think I mentioned that in a previous post. Almost all of the time I'm updating this after a 17 or 18 hour day and the weekends it's a cat nap followed by several red bulls until like 3am Friday and Saturday. So if I did forget to mention that I apologize for any confustion.

I had someone who does suspension analysis professionally review the design. The whole front end was narrowed about 2" everything regarding the dynamics changed considerably. You guys can review the final design but I think we did a good job.

As always thanks for reading and commenting!
Matt

I don't think weight or packaging is a problem here. Those LCA bolts should be rigged in double sheer. A corvette weighs in the low 3k lbs with a better weight bias. What is the front end of this going to weigh when it is done?

Question for the OP. Have you calculated a new camber curve to compensate for the increased body roll this car will have vs the suspension donor car? If you haven't, perhaps a lower hole for the UCA's will provide some adjustability? Plus, I would like to see a small plate perpendicular at the top of the UCA bolt flange.

I wouldn't normally ask these questions of a work in progress, but I was a bit curious.

53Vipette

04-09-2013, 12:21 PM

I don't think weight or packaging is a problem here. Those LCA bolts should be rigged in double sheer. A corvette weighs in the low 3k lbs with a better weight bias. What is the front end of this going to weigh when it is done?

Question for the OP. Have you calculated a new camber curve to compensate for the increased body roll this car will have vs the suspension donor car? If you haven't, perhaps a lower hole for the UCA's will provide some adjustability? Plus, I would like to see a small plate perpendicular at the top of the UCA bolt flange.

I wouldn't normally ask these questions of a work in progress, but I was a bit curious.

The bolts on the original vette crossmember were placed in single shear. Unless there was a way to sandwich the crossbar between two plates would be about the best way. Right now the mobility and configuration of the suspension wouldn't allow this and I think would hinder the design overall. Eventually I will swap the bolts for something stronger than "grade 8" and thicken the supporting structure to beyond a 1/4". If I can get some time I want to make a plate that doubles the UCA thickness. Trust me I know this seems strange but I got this!

RogueFab

04-16-2013, 12:44 PM

The bolts on the original vette crossmember were placed in single shear. Unless there was a way to sandwich the crossbar between two plates would be about the best way. Right now the mobility and configuration of the suspension wouldn't allow this and I think would hinder the design overall. Eventually I will swap the bolts for something stronger than "grade 8" and thicken the supporting structure to beyond a 1/4". If I can get some time I want to make a plate that doubles the UCA thickness. Trust me I know this seems strange but I got this!

I didn't bring up the LCA chassis mounts, those looked like a "1/2 done, position set, will come back later" thing to me. The Upper wishbone pivot tube being in single shear just looked flimsy and before I posted I went and looked at Vette pics. Same exact mounting. My post was more saying why did chevy lay it out like that, not why did you copy it. I am sure it is fine. If you look at the forces, they are mostly in line with the bolts (axial), so no real shear/bending issue. I am glad you have it plated up to .25" though, good to be safe.

Keep up the good work. And you should get rid of some of your customers so you can work on this more. They can wait. Haha

53Vipette

04-21-2013, 04:32 PM

I didn't bring up the LCA chassis mounts, those looked like a "1/2 done, position set, will come back later" thing to me. The Upper wishbone pivot tube being in single shear just looked flimsy and before I posted I went and looked at Vette pics. Same exact mounting. My post was more saying why did chevy lay it out like that, not why did you copy it. I am sure it is fine. If you look at the forces, they are mostly in line with the bolts (axial), so no real shear/bending issue. I am glad you have it plated up to .25" though, good to be safe.

Keep up the good work. And you should get rid of some of your customers so you can work on this more. They can wait. Haha

I'll be swamped for the next couple of weeks I think. Once I'm done with customer stuff I'll get back on the car. I'm not sure I'll see it on the ground by mid-May like I had hoped.

ent72olds

04-22-2013, 06:23 AM

Matt, just went through the whole thread! Outstanding! I will be looking for you on Speed Channel with your own show someday! And about being busy with customer work........kind of what this was all about! Good for you and keep up the great work!

rjsjea

04-22-2013, 08:36 AM

I just blew 30 minutes going through this thread............I gotta turn it off.

Great build, dig the direction.

53Vipette

04-27-2013, 08:11 PM

I just blew 30 minutes going through this thread............I gotta turn it off.

Great build, dig the direction.

Thanks for the comment and 30 min of your time to read through! I'm busy with a customers car right now and will get back to the Plymouth this week... Hopefully :D

53Vipette

04-29-2013, 10:11 PM

As promised... BODY MOUNTS! Whipped these little guys up in a little bit just of time. Sunday is the only day I have to work on my car until my customers car is done. I think I'll do another two for the rear to connect to the sub frame some how. Also I will make some trick pockets for the roll cage to sit into.

Thanks for reading!

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LeighP

04-29-2013, 10:33 PM

Sweet looking engineering. I like it when engineering doubles as artwork.

53Vipette

04-29-2013, 10:42 PM

Sweet looking engineering. I like it when engineering doubles as artwork.
Thanks :) it's all under the floor so you'll never see it but we all know its there!

MAYHEM Customs

04-30-2013, 07:54 AM

Nice metal fab work bro!

53Vipette

04-30-2013, 12:25 PM

Nice metal fab work bro!

Thank you! It's really the CNC that does all the work I just weld the parts together.

85coupe50

05-01-2013, 03:54 AM

Very badass work...

53Vipette

05-05-2013, 06:58 AM

Very badass work...

Yeah I'm doing more for my customers now, here's part of an El Camino I'm doing now. Tons of custom sheet metal work and custom fab work!

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ramlinman

05-06-2013, 04:07 PM

as always there are no disappointments here

53Vipette

05-06-2013, 04:46 PM

as always there are no disappointments here

Man is that your car? That's sweet lookin'!

53Vipette

05-14-2013, 09:57 PM

After a two month work trip stay tuned for more! I actually welded the body mounts up today but didn't bother to take pics... you've seen welds, I've seen welds. It seemed silly to take pics. I hope to be able to show you more in July!

Matt

RogueFab

05-17-2013, 11:53 AM

...Cue the start of my sick plasma cut metal fabwork and outside the box chassis fab observation WITHDRAWLS. See you in July.

noob5,000,000

05-17-2013, 12:08 PM

more in July!
I read this whole thread in a couple days, what a harsh note to end on :rotfl:. It's an awesome build so far. I'll be waiting patiently for July :drool:

53Vipette

05-17-2013, 10:31 PM

I'm someone is doing other badass stuff so you can get your fix! I plan to hit it hard once I return. Wheels on the ground before the end of summer. Still need to get a steering rack and the front end is finished off!

...Cue the start of my sick plasma cut metal fabwork and outside the box chassis fab observation WITHDRAWLS. See you in July.

53Vipette

05-17-2013, 10:33 PM

I read this whole thread in a couple days, what a harsh note to end on :rotfl:. It's an awesome build so far. I'll be waiting patiently for July :drool:

Thanks for taking the time to do so. I'm giving you time to review for a test in July.... Just kidding test suck.

53Vipette

07-13-2013, 08:56 PM

So I've been back for 7 days now. I've managed to put about a hundred hours (or damn close) into the car to get it off the jig and to a car show. So you might think car show as in running driving, but I happen to apart of a good group of friends that helped me trailer my car over there. It must admit I got some funny looks rolling a car over into my spot. I heard some snide comments concerning the fact it didn't run or it didn't have a motor, floors or whatever. I popped the hood to be greeted by a the small group of people that suddenly fell silent. It took a solid two minutes before anyone really said anything. The silence was broken by a solitary phrase, "That's so ****ing awesome!" Everything after was awesome that. We spent from 10am to 3pm just talking, telling the story of the Plymouth to everyone. Out of 70 cars it was one of the only cars that had a constant crowd out front. I'm sunburned, tired but it couldn't have been anymore fun!

I missed you guys, I hope you missed us too. More to come and as always stay tuned.

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I broke my nose or part of it.. I took a 1/2" drill to the face via my tubing notcher.
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Free at last! No more stanchions on her own wheels!
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53Vipette

07-13-2013, 08:57 PM

Unloading the car on to a tow truck and on to the ground.
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First time on the ground since January.
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Bryce

07-13-2013, 09:24 PM

The car looks great!

nice broken nose, I have a black eye right now from my towhook. I now know why the ricers make them bright colors.

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53Vipette

07-13-2013, 10:06 PM

great build! I have loved following it!
I hope that you are NOT doing a rat finish. it would not do the car justice!
for the outside of the car I think that a 2" chop in the front and a 3 or 4" chop in the rear would give it an awesome led-sled look.
that's my 2cents.

I'm going fix the dents and rust, polish all of the trim and clear the patina. I want the inside and fab to the focal points. I am a little scared to cut the roof off on the car right now. It's on the down hill slide and I don't want to get myself in a bind. I'm glad you enjoy the car and the work.

53Vipette

07-13-2013, 10:08 PM

I wanted to do a tow hook and I will learn from your lesson and paint it bright. Thanks for enjoying the car!

FRENCHBLUE72

07-14-2013, 04:02 AM

Car looks great congrats on getting it off the table and to a show..

Charles

07-14-2013, 08:29 PM

Sweet ride bro. Nicely executed work. Congrats

53Vipette

07-14-2013, 09:01 PM

Thanks man! That Camaro is pretty cool too!

srh3trinity

07-15-2013, 05:45 AM

Congrats on getting it back on terra firma. It looks awesome. It is quite an accomplishment given the level of fabwork.

ramlinman

07-28-2013, 12:27 PM

that is hot!!!! great insperation

linkstar69

07-28-2013, 05:55 PM

The car looks great!

nice broken nose, I have a black eye right now from my towhook. I now know why the ricers make them bright colors.

Here in a Australia your tow hooks have to bright colors so marshals can quickly find them.

linkstar69

07-28-2013, 06:02 PM

I'm going fix the dents and rust, polish all of the trim and clear the patina. I want the inside and fab to the focal points. I am a little scared to cut the roof off on the car right now. It's on the down hill slide and I don't want to get myself in a bind. I'm glad you enjoy the car and the work.
Love how it looks, the fab work is awesome.

gearheads78

07-28-2013, 06:35 PM

Fab work is looking outstanding!

drflex

07-28-2013, 07:01 PM

sits perfect. way to do justice to an often overlooked classic

RogueFab

07-30-2013, 08:00 AM

Any updates Matt?

53Vipette

08-02-2013, 08:07 PM

Any updates Matt?

Lol I haven't checked to see if anyone else posted after I uploaded those pics! Sorry everyone for the delayed response. I've got some big projects in the shop, if all goes as planned I want to finish fitting the front of the cage come Sunday/Monday. I need to order the steering rack and linkage stuff. Progress might slower than usual in the coming weeks, but stay tuned!

Matt

cwmiller

08-04-2013, 11:06 AM

Great build man. A lot of inspiration in thread. Keep up the good work! Subscribed.

53Vipette

08-05-2013, 11:13 AM

Great build man. A lot of inspiration in thread. Keep up the good work! Subscribed.

Awesome, you're the 300th post on here.. That's pretty rad. Thanks for the props! I did work on the cage a bit last night. I'm calling in reinforcements to help with the tube work. I'm not very good at it. Not going to lie.

53Vipette

09-17-2013, 04:05 PM

Just a quick update. I'm pretty busy here at the shop, I wish I had more time to work on the Plymouth but I also like having the work. At any rate, the major hold up is the roll cage. I need some help bending up the front tubes. If anyone is interested call or text me 561-662-7117

Munssey

09-17-2013, 04:57 PM

Well, hello and what do we have here?! YES! Subscribed.

Excellent work, sir! Keep the updates coming and good luck finding a cage guy to help.

the dan

09-18-2013, 11:03 AM

yeah, just come east ill fix ya up

MAYHEM Customs

09-19-2013, 03:43 PM

We have a pipe bender & we've done multiple roll cages. We're in Portland, OR. Ask for Ryan!

Just a quick update. I'm pretty busy here at the shop, I wish I had more time to work on the Plymouth but I also like having the work. At any rate, the major hold up is the roll cage. I need some help bending up the front tubes. If anyone is interested call or text me 561-662-7117

BuffaloMotorama

09-19-2013, 07:22 PM

Damn cool build. I'm a sucker for different. This fits the bill

El_Tortuga

09-19-2013, 08:12 PM

Wow. Just read the entire thread. Way to go man.

72RBMonte

09-22-2013, 02:59 PM

You have great drive and are using skills you learned years ago and now they are paying huge returns in a passion compared to fixing USAF planes which could have been fun at times yet this build has taken on its own life and I'm truly enjoying the passion you have for your show piece, not sure where abouts your located along the state, yet you're work and hands on approach is reassuring to myself that it's doing a little each day/week you can and don't be afraid to start over when a better method shows it's head, I'm happy to see the art of metal working from a budget minded guy get things done at a very high level of craftsmen ship, when you pounded out this blister panels I loved it, forming metal is an art it's own, love the fab work and most of all your distinguished style to make your chassis one off and functional, with C4 suspension upgraded with huge Brembo's to the massive radiator, I love your ability to find great parts and resurrect them, your engine was in shambles and you breathed life back into it. Hard work and patience has done you well, I've done my share of custome exhaust over the decades back east for many hotrod members, those old guys love their flame throwers! from 50's street rods to 1927 Rolls Royce Limo's, it's all about satisfying your customers, bending is something I'm sure you'll have mastered in time, just be patient. Enjoying the effort to rebuild your tools/machines too. Awesome skills and vision to be different!!! Way to go, your an inspiration to myself...

PhillipM

09-22-2013, 06:42 PM

Not sure how I've not seen this thread till now but nice work! I thought I was out in left field. You're not even on the field! Lol

ramlinman

10-13-2013, 03:46 PM

anything to show us?

the dan

10-13-2013, 07:09 PM

yeah theres about an inch more dust on it! ;)

53Vipette

10-14-2013, 08:32 AM

yeah theres about an inch more dust on it! ;)

No... It's only like a 1/4"

53Vipette

10-14-2013, 08:33 AM

anything to show us?

A shop full of customer work is about it.

the dan

10-16-2013, 10:54 AM

Hes been busy making customers happy, im going to motivate him this winter and do his cage up

53Vipette

10-21-2013, 11:32 AM

Hes been busy making customers happy, im going to motivate him this winter and do his cage up

It's pretty much all I'm asking Santa for this year.

53Vipette

10-21-2013, 11:33 AM

SS PUNISHER

11-02-2013, 11:52 AM

Subscribed!

What an awesome build man. So glad you aren't gonna paint it, looks great as she sits!

hemi62valiant

01-06-2014, 02:07 PM

This is my favorite build. The 53 Plymouth is a cool car and you have made it spectacular

the dan

01-28-2014, 12:11 AM

So i flew out from Connecticut last monday to finish the cage in the Belvedere for mr DFT Plasma himself.

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mitch_04

01-28-2014, 06:09 AM

Words can't express how much I love this build.

53Vipette

01-30-2014, 11:45 PM

Thanks dude! Now that I got a major leg up on this cage I can continue. I a bit busy with customer work now but I'm hoping to put one day a week towards the car if I can.

ekmxryda

01-31-2014, 05:42 AM

Car is looking cool!
Nice job on the cage The Dan! Would love to hire you someday to help with mine, you have great skills.

the dan

01-31-2014, 07:30 AM

Car is looking cool!
Nice job on the cage The Dan! Would love to hire you someday to help with mine, you have great skills.

I'm only a state away. Bring it down before paint and interior!

ekmxryda

02-01-2014, 09:46 AM

That would be very cool Dan, I will try and give you a call when I am close to that point.
First I will need to buy a few cage to frame brackets cut by DFT, if you have time Matt.

53Vipette

02-02-2014, 12:17 AM

I'm sure we can work something out. If not Dan has access to a laser so he can get you all squared away. I would highly recommend him to do the work for you. His shop can handle anything you throw at them, but clearly his work speaks for itself.

E.rodz

02-02-2014, 06:58 PM

Wow this thing is going to be bad azz love it! keep up the great work!

Munssey

02-02-2014, 08:16 PM

Love this build too much not to post it on G+ and Twitter. More folks need inspired to go this direction. Keep it going, Matt.

dangina

02-02-2014, 08:32 PM

subscribed. So much cool metal work done. Inspiring!

chevy4life

02-02-2014, 08:59 PM

this is breath taking

53Vipette

02-03-2014, 12:40 AM

Thanks everyone! I'll post some pics soon of what I'm working on right now for customers. I've been pretty busy so the Plymouth hasn't gotten much love as of late.

53Vipette

02-11-2014, 04:51 PM

I don't like cluttering a dedicated forum with other pictures of cars however, this is what I'm doing now. I just wanted to give you guys a glimpse into my daily life. More or less to show you my skills and I are alive and doing well.

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Auto Rod Technologies

02-11-2014, 07:57 PM

Looks good!! And keep those IG pics coming as well.. lol

cozmo76

02-26-2014, 02:58 AM

truly inspirational stuff, from another guy in the industry, you work is world class with amazing innovation, cant wait to see more updates!!!!
cheers
corrie

MSTSFabbed

02-26-2014, 08:24 AM

Hot dang! I love seeing collaboration on these sites!

And holy crap, forget dedicated forum-shmorum; post more pics of that bad little coupe! And any other metal work your into!! Love it!!

53Vipette

03-09-2014, 02:22 AM

I made some body braces out of 18 ga CRS and then dimple died the heck out of them. I'll try and get the other side done tomorrow.

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acegto

03-09-2014, 01:03 PM

Saweeeeeet!!! Keep it up. Always look forward to your updates.

53Vipette

03-09-2014, 01:42 PM

They've been slow but there should be more to come.

Auto Rod Technologies

03-09-2014, 04:18 PM

Looks good!!

53Vipette

03-30-2014, 09:54 PM

I trimmed and fitted the dash to the accommodate it's new location since the cage has been finished. I had to cut more than I expected to get it to fit around the cage but I'm happy with it! I'll start to plan mounts and how to close all of it out. I really don't want to turn it into a big project, something clean and simple will do the trick.

I also finished the drivers side body to cage mounts.

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53Vipette

03-30-2014, 09:57 PM

For those of you who use instagram check out my Belvedere only profile.

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mikes2nd

04-02-2014, 05:39 AM

Insane build, I just picked up a 1958 Belvedere for a project... A pro tour Christine? More resto mod also... Have to start hunting srt8 scraps...

53Vipette

04-03-2014, 06:37 PM

Pretty pumped! No more broken front glass! I got the glass pulled so I could tie the cage to body easier. Should be able to make some better progress on my dash too.

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Peanut1959

04-22-2014, 10:37 AM

53Vipette

04-22-2014, 06:42 PM

Incredible build! Love the style you're going for here.

Maybe you covered it in an earlier post, but why did you "bob" the rear frame rails, then build new outriggers for the fuel cell (instead of just making the frame full-length)?

I didn't see a reason to build this massive frame work to hold a fuel cell. The roll cage termination dictated the upright length and size, once again not trying to add more weight than need be behind axle. Thanks for the interest.

ramlinman

04-24-2014, 03:02 PM

keep it coming

Peanut1959

04-29-2014, 10:42 AM

No rear bumper, then?

RIDES BY DESIGN

06-21-2014, 02:56 PM

any progress?

53Vipette

06-21-2014, 03:19 PM

No rear bumper, then?

No I just plan on running a roll pan. I'm cutting the extra weight but ditching almost 100 pounds of bumpers.

53Vipette

06-21-2014, 03:25 PM

any progress?

Trying to finish my '51 fleetline so I can generate some cash to finish the Plymouth. If you have Instagram find me on there @DFTPlasma

53Vipette

07-27-2014, 09:34 PM

I made these dash mounts that relocate the stock dash up and back. I made some lower mounts too but my phone camera is jacked so there's not any quality pictures of them. I also finished the A-Pillar tie ins too. Pretty standard sheet metal with holes flared into but.... Finally some progress!

Matt

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the dan

08-02-2014, 12:28 AM

i like this

PhillipM

08-02-2014, 08:35 AM

Awesome.

53Vipette

10-06-2014, 12:52 AM

Took some time this weekend to get the radiator mount. Not pictured is the lower set of mounts. They turned out really bitchin' but I didn't get pics. I plan to chip away at this thing little by little. Sorry for the slow up dates. Find me on instagram for more up to date pics GoldenStateFabLLC

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mopwr2004a

10-06-2014, 03:48 PM

Do you sell those spindle fixtures to set the ride height on the front

Hey gang,

Finally made some progress after my weld table top showed up. I started the day by cleaning the factory GM parts which took forever. Afterwards I started mocking everything up and building supports so the cross member. I forgot to take pics of the progress I made after last pic. I'm going to try and make as much of it as I can out of one flat sheet of metal. It'll look bad ass I think. I'm tired and I'm sure this doesn't all make sense.

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72BBSwinger

10-06-2014, 04:21 PM

That is the thickest radiator I think I've ever seen! In a car anyway...

Jedrattle

10-06-2014, 06:54 PM

Simply amazing. I like the fact that it's an odd ball Mopar. Keep it coming

53Vipette

10-06-2014, 11:30 PM

Do you sell those spindle fixtures to set the ride height on the front

I can make you some if you need them.

mopwr2004a

10-07-2014, 01:33 PM

53Vipette

10-07-2014, 03:11 PM

I could use some if I can afford them. How much dollars to make a set with 4-1/2 & 4-3/4 bolt pattern for a 26" diameter wheel and tire combo. just need them shipped as flat pc's and I can weld together.

Give me the exact size of the tire, the size of the hub and I can give you a price. These are to just locate the hub at ride height and not to support the whole car.

mopwr2004a

10-08-2014, 04:35 AM

I want them to do the same as you, just to do mock up , I have a 68 dart I want to build a front clip for. I will get you the deminsions in a few days. I'm wrking my nights at wrk this week.

53Vipette

02-07-2015, 09:43 AM

It's been a while but there's something things in the works for the car and I. Here's the progress that's been made over the past few months.

Dash mounts were completed:
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So the big news... I moved from Cali to Florida. I built my new shop with the goal of centered around finishing this car and moving on to finish my education. Just waiting on power to be connected so I can weld up my custom front doors and close off the front. Shouldn't be but a few weeks until I'm back on the Belvedere!

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Motown 454

02-07-2015, 09:54 AM

Its looking good! Nice building!!

ekmxryda

02-07-2015, 10:16 AM

Wow you have been keeping busy, shop looks great. I am a little jealous of your move to Florida, our next big snow storm is starting now! :pat:
Looking forward to more progress picts on the Belvedere.

the dan

02-07-2015, 10:19 AM

Tincup

02-07-2015, 05:36 PM

Glad to see you back at it. Love the new shop, wish my shop was that big. ( Garage envy..) Just wondering what you are planning on using for engine management for that snake..?

ALLstrokedOUT

02-07-2015, 07:48 PM

Awesome! Looking forward to the updates! Out of curiosity, what part of FL did you move to?

53Vipette

02-08-2015, 04:42 PM

Awesome! Looking forward to the updates! Out of curiosity, what part of FL did you move to?

I'm up in the panhandle area, Marianna to be exact.

53Vipette

02-08-2015, 04:45 PM

Glad to see you back at it. Love the new shop, wish my shop was that big. ( Garage envy..) Just wondering what you are planning on using for engine management for that snake..?

I've got the Mopar 'Hot Rod Swap' harness and PCM. It deletes all the emissions stuff and makes a few more horsepower over stock.

53Vipette

02-08-2015, 04:46 PM

ALLstrokedOUT

02-08-2015, 05:57 PM

I'm up in the panhandle area, Marianna to be exact.

Very cool, my girlfriend grew up in Destin, hope you like it there.

rustomatic

02-08-2015, 10:31 PM

I don't know how I missed this build, but please provide a link to where I (and others) can find your chassis progress and whatnot. Apparently, you've exceeded the capacity of the server here, and many of your progress pics have been wiped out. I've seen a few of these old Chrysler Co. bodies around my neck of the woods, and have had some sick thoughts related to doing a chassis switcheroo. I wish you much luck and good adventure in the South (I tried it myself a few years back; it lasted three years)--just remember that it's not CA...

Buryingthesun

02-09-2015, 04:32 AM

Really cool build you are doing here!

53Vipette

02-10-2015, 07:17 AM

Justin@EntropyRad

02-10-2015, 09:50 AM

The metalwork is phenomenal, and I bet the viper motor will turn some heads the way it will sound coming out o that thing!

53Vipette

02-19-2015, 05:56 PM

Here's the slide show of most of the build pictures. It should cover all the pics that went missing.

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iadr

02-22-2015, 07:26 PM

Here's the slide show of most of the build pictures. It should cover all the pics that went missing.

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That's quite the rad! Custom? Thicker than most any I've seen.

IDK if you'll like those shop lights- I'd be wiring for T5 florescents, myself.

53Vipette

02-23-2015, 05:16 AM

That's quite the rad! Custom? Thicker than most any I've seen.

IDK if you'll like those shop lights- I'd be wiring for T5 florescents, myself.

Yeah I got it out of a NASCAR set up that I found on eBay. It's probably too large but for the money I paid I won't lose sleep over it not working or not.

I like T5s a lot but I already owned these and had the installed in my old shop. Should be everything I need for right now.

RIDES BY DESIGN

02-24-2015, 06:05 AM

happy to see you waking this up

53Vipette

02-27-2015, 10:19 AM

happy to see you waking this up

Ill start art ordering parts again soon! I hope to finish it this by the end of the year.

the dan

02-27-2015, 01:15 PM

Start art!? You already did that

53Vipette

09-03-2015, 10:38 PM

I've resumed progress on this thing again (finally) between my move from Cali and getting the shop going again it's been a little stressful to say the least. I won't bore you with the details of the rigors of adult life but I'm sure on some level you guys can relate.

In the past few weeks I've done a lot, or more than I expected to anyways, I was able to strip the chassis down to nothing and started finish welding all the stuff that was just tacked together. The front is currently done and now I'm working on populating the rear of the car with the remaining bits and pieces. I built a new fuel cell mount since the original was damaged in the move, I welded all the tubes on the roll cage and the remaining suspension points and I started to build out the trunk sheet metal. Believe me when I say it's hard work! Well I'll let the pictures do the rest of the talking and feel free to ask any questions.

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Tincup

09-04-2015, 04:24 AM

Glad to see you back at it....

Jetfixr320

09-04-2015, 10:51 AM

Glad your back at it also. Looks like a few other projects also.

53Vipette

09-04-2015, 07:42 PM

Glad your back at it also. Looks like a few other projects also.

Yeah there's been a few cars in and out of the shop since I've last posted. I actually built a car from nothing in about 6-8 months to flip. I just never had time to really work on the Plymouth but I got time here and there. I had a few customers that would make me feel guilty about working on personal cars and I avoided doing so to not deal with confilct. Soon I'll post the last two cars I built to show you guys what I've been doing.

wfo guy

09-05-2015, 08:54 AM

Cool!

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BillSalZman

09-05-2015, 12:08 PM

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep the pix coming!! Good stuff. I'm glad to see people save 'em from the crusher and rebuild with a little imagination and something different. Good Luck! Bill

53Vipette

09-05-2015, 01:07 PM

Great build! I don't know how I missed it originally.

I was trying to go through it, but after about page 6 all of the pictures are gone. Looks like the links are dead. It's a shame, because I wanted to see the progress. Any chance of fixing it?

Andrew

I actually added a bunch to the photobucket account I a few pages back. I haven't figured how to fix them correctly but I'll take a crack at it.

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Motown 454

09-05-2015, 06:55 PM

Those are some sweet looking panels! Excellent job.

53Vipette

09-07-2015, 10:51 PM

Instead of eating BBQ and drinking too many cold beers I took some the time to work on the Belvedere this weekend. I was able to get the forward close out panel that's over the wheel well trimmed, fitted and installed. I also bead rolled the adjacent panel and worked out the lap joint between the two parts. After all of that was accomplished I added a two piece fender brace that will get riveted on mid way down the wheel well. That's pretty much it. Just waiting on my air ride stuff to arrive.

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Kcrain

09-08-2015, 03:15 PM

Great work your doing keep it up. Can you tell us some about the e-type jag what going on with it and show some pictures

53Vipette

09-08-2015, 04:24 PM

Great work your doing keep it up. Can you tell us some about the e-type jag what going on with it and show some pictures

I can but probably not for a little while. The quick version is that it's supposed to be getting a full restoration but we are waiting for parts and more money to come in.

53Vipette

09-10-2015, 12:34 AM

Today, I built these mounts for two Viair 444c Stealth compressors. It's integrated onto the back side of one of the trunk close out panels which keeps the trunk area open and clean looking. It's CNC plasma from 1/4" mild steel and will mount with screws or perhaps some rivets. I haven't decided yet. The bracket itself is light and has been designed to support 1.5x the weight thus keeping things as slim as need be.

It's been a slow last couple of days in terms of tangible progress. I did however, order a large amount of the parts I need for this project to continue the major build out. Today, I'm expecting my air tanks and valve block to arrive so I can populate the sub-trunk area with those components. The next big items will be the battery, fuel system parts and main electrical harness.

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the dan

09-10-2015, 11:52 AM

I like the way you used empty space. Looks Awesome!

linkstar69

09-10-2015, 03:24 PM

Great to see your getting some time on it.

sdg0080

09-10-2015, 05:40 PM

Absolutely love this car man. I'd give anything to have a cnc plasma table. I love the fact you're building something so different. Looks great man.

Centerforce

09-10-2015, 07:09 PM

Subscribing. This is some beautiful work.

53Vipette

09-11-2015, 04:02 AM

I made this primary fuel filter mount. The bezel will get some fine stainless mess to keep any vapor from building up and keep junk out. The lower portion still needs the flange trimmed and fit better. I still need to come up a bead pattern for the filler panel.

The air tanks and the like should be here soon. Pretty excited about that.

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72BBSwinger

09-11-2015, 12:56 PM

I want to mount my rear mount battery in that fashion. A sunken battery box if you will.

ekmxryda

09-12-2015, 05:57 AM

53Vipette

09-12-2015, 12:01 PM

Very cool to see the progress!
I know it is early to ask but have you thought much about how you are going to finish the inside of the car?
It would be fun to see the inside match the feel of the patina on the outside. Some paint - rust - clear coat?

I probably won't have rust but I plan on using this black patina that I have and then maybe clear or just wax to seal it up. I might paint the bottom of the car black to help provide a real barrier against corrosion.

53Vipette

09-12-2015, 11:52 PM

Quick update for you guys, I was able to get these two small things done. I also was able to build the lower brace that fills in under the fuel cell mount, it can be seen with the lightening holes. I added mesh to the primary fuel filter bezel and riveted the housing onto the floor panel. The battery selector switch was originally supposed to be mounted into the side panel with just a simple bezel, after mocking it up I realized that I hated it. I do like the formed mesh and thought it could be neat to incorporate it somehow in another design feature so I added it to the lower cut outs in the bezel. The mesh isn't functional but it still looks better than just a flat plate screwed to the side.

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53Vipette

09-14-2015, 05:20 AM

I was able to complete the passenger side wheel tub and rear close out panels. I'm still waiting on the last few parts to complete everything in the trunk area. As soon as that is done I plan on starting the cabin area right after the firewall is mocked up.

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53Vipette

09-16-2015, 04:08 AM

I started getting the drivers side all riveted together. I'm still waiting on the air ride stuff to show and to have the battery here before I go finalizing the remaining details. I'm hoping this week I can get the rest of the trunk done and then start on the firewall.

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Tincup

09-16-2015, 04:23 AM

I like it....

linkstar69

09-16-2015, 02:53 PM

There's almost an Art Deco quality to your design that goes wonderfully with the style of car you're building. I love it

sdg0080

09-16-2015, 04:11 PM

That's bad a$$. Love it

53Vipette

09-18-2015, 04:34 AM

So my battery showed up and I got to work right away making a battery box that holds the battery in the dead space inside the rear quarter. Originally I planned to mount it low and out of the way but it ended up in a strange spot that wouldn't allow you to access it if the car was down all the way. I riveted the remainder of the panels on to the body and started laying out the last floor panel. It should come together quickly I hope! Then on to the firewall and the rest of the sheet metal.

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twosaturns

09-18-2015, 05:02 AM

There's almost an Art Deco quality to your design that goes wonderfully with the style of car you're building. I love it

I think the SteamPunk crowd would be into it as well, this build is awesome

53Vipette

09-19-2015, 07:24 AM

I built this small tool tray to store just simple things you should have in a vehicle. I'm hoping it's big enough to put a small air hose to fill tires up in case of an emergency. The "ribs" that connect the fuel cell to the floor do double duty, not only do they hold up the inside edges of the floor but they also connect the body to the rear sub frame. Since most of the original body bracing was rusted out or removed to install the chassis it left the rear flimsy and weak. Now there's no flex and it looks much better than the original, factory trunk floor.

The lid of the tool tray will get a Hartwell latch and a small piano hinge to keep it in place. I plan to move onto the forward trunk area next and then start on the firewall.

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72BBSwinger

09-19-2015, 09:51 AM

Digging the brass rivets. I need one of those hammers.

Motown 454

09-19-2015, 09:57 AM

It's coming out Great, beautiful work..

53Vipette

09-19-2015, 02:53 PM

Digging the brass rivets. I need one of those hammers.

They aren't brass but treated aluminum. The gold coating wears off after a while and they'll be silver.

wfo guy

09-19-2015, 04:36 PM

Looking good.

53Vipette

09-21-2015, 03:23 AM

Just wrapping up things on this trunk area. Still some small detail pieces to finish but I did get the trunk stay built and mounted (sort of) I need an offset rivet set to get some of the rivets. The ribs under the fuel cell are mounted, the lower section is riveted on and the top is welded. I don't have a Terry drill so I wasn't able to drill the ribs from the inside to install fasteners so welding it was.

Today or tomorrow I plan to install the motor and trans again and then start the firewall. Once that's done I'll be able to get my Tilton pedals installed into my toe well and get my steering column set up.

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Jetfixr320

09-21-2015, 11:47 AM

Digging the rivets and s/m work!

53Vipette

09-23-2015, 04:18 AM

I started on the firewall after wrapping up most of the trunk. The motor was reinstalled and major components installed. Tonight I'll start to get the passenger side toe box wrapped and ready to install. The top half of the firewall will be removable to aid in removing or working on the engine. The inside will have a dog house built so that you can get to the back side of the engine too.

I still need to order a bunch more parts like fuel lines, brake lines, master cylinders, brake reservoirs, steering shaft stuff, electrical harness and more.

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53Vipette

09-23-2015, 04:19 AM

Digging the rivets and s/m work!

Thanks dude!

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09-23-2015, 06:21 AM

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Really digging your attention to detail, you are a master craftsman!

I love the detail you've added to the top firewall panels. Could you explain / tell us more about how you recessed the entire center section? I'm sure the vertical lines were made with a bead roller, right? But I'm curious how you were able to recess the whole interior section of each panel?

Thanks!

53Vipette

09-23-2015, 02:31 PM

Really digging your attention to detail, you are a master craftsman!

I love the detail you've added to the top firewall panels. Could you explain / tell us more about how you recessed the entire center section? I'm sure the vertical lines were made with a bead roller, right? But I'm curious how you were able to recess the whole interior section of each panel?

Thanks!

So different project but same set up. The key to this whole thing is good layout. Before I start I clean the metal with acetone and ultra fine scotch brite. I look for any flaws in the metal that might be in the way, deep scratches, bents, rust spots or whatever. I use different color, fine tipped sharpies for the lines (blue for beads, red for cutting and green/black for bending), grab yourself some scrap and go through a mini version of the part you are going to make, I've got a lot of little parts I tested to see how they will work, after all it's only metal, buy extra and don't be afraid to start over. Set your dies up with whatever profile you need, I use a tipping die and an offset die sometimes in tight spaces (as pictured), make sure you check that you have the throat clearance to do the whole piece, it happens to me sometimes and it sucks, run your boarders first and then add your inside pattern if you have one. I normally hold back from the edge of my boarder .5" or so to keep the offset from getting crushed. Clean again with acetone and scotch brite and you're good to go.

The firewall piece is just an 1/8" offset die on the boarder and the "pinstripe" is a tipping die with the lower die (the open channel part) of a 1/4" round bead die.

I hope that answers your questions, if not feel free to ask more or give me a call 561-662-7117.

-Matt

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blade

09-23-2015, 05:39 PM

The Belvedere is a sweet ride, but that little truck is a wicked ride! Love the way that truck looks!

53Vipette

09-24-2015, 04:35 AM

So I was able to get the passenger side toe box bent, trimmed and bead rolled. I started on the dog house that will cover the engine but didn't take pictures because it's pointless to look at right now. I did also start laying out the pedal and column location. I'm trying to drill the firewall once and not botch the **** out of it. The wheel is just for mock up and so are the boards. New wheels are on their way too so it should be cool.

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cbpldc

09-24-2015, 10:33 AM

You can likely make up the distance to the windshield with what most people cut off modern dashboards to put in older cars!

Chris

53Vipette

09-24-2015, 11:09 PM

You can likely make up the distance to the windshield with what most people cut off modern dashboards to put in older cars!

Chris

I've made everything else from scratch so I'll likely just do that instead of trying to trim a plastic dash and make it look decent.

Auto Rod Technologies

09-25-2015, 02:08 PM

I haven't been logging on for a while now but this has always been one of my favorite projects to watch, I am glad you are still at it!!

cbpldc

09-26-2015, 08:20 AM

I've made everything else from scratch so I'll likely just do that instead of trying to trim a plastic dash and make it look decent.

True! Loving the sheet metal work!

Godbolt

09-28-2015, 02:42 AM

First class. Simply awesome work.

53Vipette

09-28-2015, 10:01 PM

So the next round of parts started to arrive today the new wheels showed up and now can be sent off for powder coat. I'm waiting to see what tires I want to run but will order those this week. My brain hasn't seemed to work well all day so I'm at a loss of words... I'm cruising past a 21 hour day lol.

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sdg0080

09-29-2015, 10:29 AM

Such an awesome build. Love the bead rolling work you've done. Hope you plan on some steamroller tires out back or all that torque will make one hell of a smoke show...lol

53Vipette

09-29-2015, 11:27 AM

Such an awesome build. Love the bead rolling work you've done. Hope you plan on some steamroller tires out back or all that torque will make one hell of a smoke show...lol

I'm ending up with a 275 I think in the back. Those new wheels are wider so they are a little tight in my wheel tubs :/

sdg0080

09-29-2015, 06:34 PM

I think you may need more tire... lol vipers had what a 335 or 345 rear tire? They still had traction issues with those monsters. Now granted with a 275 you could lay rubber for blocks... :P

53Vipette

10-03-2015, 04:50 PM

I think you may need more tire... lol vipers had what a 335 or 345 rear tire? They still had traction issues with those monsters. Now granted with a 275 you could lay rubber for blocks... :P

I just don't have the space for it to be honest. I never planned to go that wide with the wheels but got a sweet deal on them. 275-295 is probably too small of a tire but I also don't want the car to push in corners.

sdg0080

10-03-2015, 05:03 PM

Hey you can get some great deals in tires that size. :) with the right suspension settings it might be okay. I'm running 275's on the front of mine and looking at 325 to 345's for the rear. I can't wait to see what your car looks like all finished up.

53Vipette

10-03-2015, 05:24 PM

I got the passenger underside floor braces done, forward toe box cut and bead rolled, main floor section cut and fit and I also started on the rear interior close out panels. I hope to have those wrapped up by Sunday and to be starting on the remaining floor sections come Monday or Tuesday.

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wfo guy

10-03-2015, 06:08 PM

Good progress! Why is everything so rusted up? Is your shop not weather tight?

53Vipette

10-03-2015, 07:11 PM

Good progress! Why is everything so rusted up? Is your shop not weather tight?

When I first moved back from Cali the car got stuck in the rain for a few days. There wasn't much I could do and we covered it the best I could. It's just how it's going to be until I wore wheel or sand blast it all.

53Vipette

10-04-2015, 08:12 AM

I'll add words later.

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sdg0080

10-04-2015, 10:15 AM

No words needed. Looks incredible.

53Vipette

10-06-2015, 05:36 PM

After fitting the center filler I got to work on sorting out the lower floor sections. I used a tipping die on my bead roller to help form a flange on the lower portions of the rear side panels (as noted by the row of clecos). I did manage to get the upper filler piece made too. It's going to require some more work to get it to fit right. I might actually just remake it and do it a different way.

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linkstar69

10-07-2015, 04:48 AM

Looks amazing

53Vipette

10-09-2015, 01:54 AM

Looks amazing

Thanks man.

53Vipette

10-09-2015, 02:08 AM

This is as far as I've gotten the past few days. I managed to get the interior sheet metal at least bent up and formed for the most part. The trans tunnel is taking shape. I need to drill a few hundred holes, deburr, paint the back sides of the panels and assemble. I need to get the dash sorted out too, it needs to be mounted properly, end caps made and some structure added.

My new coil packs should be here this week so I can at least get those mounted, I don't have a lot of space so they will get relocated to a lower portion of the engine or most likely on the trans tunnel some how.

Next week I need to order all my fuel system stuff and get it plumbed up. My stainless steel brake lines just arrived so I will have to bend those up soon too. I hope a lot of this is straight shots to and from components which will save me a lot of time. The worst thing for me is going to be bending up my airlines and mounting them.

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cbpldc

10-09-2015, 06:33 AM

Love the side panels in the rear! It nicely mimics what the old leather or vinyl would have looked like back when it had an interior.

Chris

53Vipette

10-10-2015, 12:18 PM

I made a good amount of progress today. I was able to weld some panels together, reconfigure the shifter offset, build this center console bezel and get the dash laid out. I can say the console bezel is one of my favorite parts so far, the hammer formed metal really adds to the design. The dash still needs to be formed, bead rolled and riveted together. I need to figure out how to fasten it to the body, I'm guessing simple tabs that it will rivet to. My R888's arrived yesterday too! I'm hoping the wheels come back from powder coat soon, the stuff should be cool as heck!

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sdg0080

10-10-2015, 02:55 PM

Wow, nice. Love the bezel.

wfo guy

10-10-2015, 03:18 PM

Nice update. :)

53Vipette

10-11-2015, 09:15 PM

I didn't really get a ton done today but, I did manage to get this grill/vent made, panels bead rolled and mounting flanges done. I started the door panels too but they are in a rough state currently. This week I will have the interior finalized and I'll start to pull fuel lines, plumb airlines and get cracking on some stuff. I actually need to remove the front suspension points

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sdg0080

10-12-2015, 04:48 AM

Man that just looks incredible.

53Vipette

10-13-2015, 05:38 AM

So I got the door panels made and drilled up. I just need to patina the one side, drill both doors for Riv-Nuts and then paint the backs of the panels. I might send some more parts out for powder coat like the upper door trim, the dash and filler plates and the bezels I cut. The interior could use a splash of color I think.

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windows

10-13-2015, 02:55 PM

Great sheetmetal! Your car is awesome.

53Vipette

10-17-2015, 10:41 AM

I made this underfloor rigidizer to stiffen up the pedal box. That plate will get attached to more structure later on. I also whipped up this PCM mount that clips on to the roll cage tube. I'm hoping I have enough space to keep it as far over as I can to protect it from the cabin heat.

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wfo guy

10-17-2015, 02:58 PM

Good update. Most of the recent ecu's are designed to withstand under-hood temps so I believe you will be in great shape with your location. What are you going to use for insulation and sound deadener?

Tincup

10-17-2015, 06:32 PM

"Rigidizer" is that a real word??? :razz:

Godbolt

10-18-2015, 01:14 AM

I am loving this build. Fantastic work and great progress.

"Rigidizer" should be added to the dictionary Tincup. Or perhaps it's urban slang for awesome.

53Vipette

10-18-2015, 05:09 AM

"Rigidizer" is that a real word??? :razz:

I am loving this build. Fantastic work and great progress.

"Rigidizer" should be added to the dictionary Tincup. Or perhaps it's urban slang for awesome.

Be prepared to add another wrinkle to your brain because it is! I've seen it used a lot in the aerospace industry.

http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/rigidizer

Tincup

10-19-2015, 11:06 AM

Be prepared to add another wrinkle to your brain because it is! I've seen it used a lot in the aerospace industry.

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I thought you got that off of a bottle of Viagra....

53Vipette

10-19-2015, 05:52 PM

Didn't get much done today other getting tires mounted and picked up all the parts from powder coat. It as seriously the longs day of errands ever. This week should be more than productive I hope.

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linkstar69

10-21-2015, 03:06 PM

Love the colour for the powder coat. Dash panel flows really well with the factory piece

53Vipette

10-24-2015, 04:13 AM

So I've gotten a lot done in the past few days. I managed to install my Banski Motorsports Camber and Toe rods installed and the rear end rehung. It's interesting to install the wheels into the car, the hubs must be broken down and installed onto the wheels first, camber rods and drag links connected and then the axles. The rear end as a whole unit could be installed if it were more than just me.

I remade the rear shock mounts to make the car a little higher. I wasn't comfortable with how low the car was and how it put loaded the u-joints on the rear axles. Honestly, I see myself adding at least another 1" to the rear in the future but as it stands currently it'll work.

I reworked the inlet to the water pump with a cast 90° elbow. I'll need to work on the plumbing a bit more when I cross that bridge but it shouldn't be too bad.

I remade the low control arm mounts. The first design I never really liked but it worked at the time. As things progressed one mount got damaged and surface rust propagated in areas that needed welding. I made these mounts from one piece of 10 ga. CRS. A quick bend in the brake, some welding and they are ready to install. These were actually really fun to make and install. TIG welding these in place was a challenge but added to the thrill.

One of the major issues I had with the front suspension was too much shock angle change through the travel. Even though, in theory, the suspension will only really cycle through a fixed range when the vehicle is at ride height it was something worth addressing. I also needed a bit more height too so this was a great way to kill two birds with one stone. I made these mounts to allow a little adaptability to whatever the car is going to be used for. I may move the eyelets inboard a bit more but we shall see how these work.

While this is all mocked up I'll need to measure for my new steering rack and figure out sway bar ends. I plan to start plumbing everything soon. I need to still mount my air tanks and valve block which I will do tomorrow.

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RIDES BY DESIGN

10-24-2015, 05:04 AM

no dissapointments here.. looking fantastic

windows

10-24-2015, 06:06 AM

53Vipette

10-24-2015, 03:58 PM

no dissapointments here.. looking fantastic

Thanks man! Just trying to do my best.

53Vipette

10-24-2015, 03:59 PM

Your car is outstanding. Also, nice design on the lower shock mount. I'll be the guy hiding behind the tree when you're looking for someone to change your spark plugs. Again, great looking project. Exited to see it finished.

Me too! Good luck with that lol. You have to take half the car apart to get the plugs but that's just how it goes sometimes.

53Vipette

10-25-2015, 05:15 PM

I started getting things mounted, the air tanks are in position and the titanium is polished and ready to bend up. I mocked up the Z06 brake calipers with the new wheels and I'm waiting on the brackets from Van Steel to arrive.

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53Vipette

10-29-2015, 04:37 AM

I started the over flow tank for the radiator, some of the engine wiring, oil filter adapter on the engine, mounted the oil filter bypass and I made an alternator tensor mount.

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cbpldc

10-29-2015, 05:32 AM

I'm always pumped to wake up in the morning and see updates to this thread. Looking good!

bonecrrusher

10-29-2015, 06:10 AM

Viper drivetrain - C6Z brakes - C7Z wheels...

Any particular reason you went with the C7Z style wheels?

They look great powdercoated!

53Vipette

10-29-2015, 12:56 PM

Viper drivetrain - C6Z brakes - C7Z wheels...

Any particular reason you went with the C7Z style wheels?

They look great powdercoated!

I wanted different wheels all together but didn't really want to deal with possible fitment issues. I was able to get a good deal on those so that's what I ended up with.

53Vipette

10-29-2015, 12:57 PM

I'm always pumped to wake up in the morning and see updates to this thread. Looking good!

Thanks man and thank you for the support!

53Vipette

11-01-2015, 08:48 AM

I was able to get a few notable things done so far. I mounted my MAP sensor on a small bracket I that bolts to the back of the head. I built the drivers side exhaust section and heat shield. I need to complete the passenger side today but haven't got that far yet. The coil packs are mounted as well.

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cbpldc

11-01-2015, 05:03 PM

oOh, that's cool! That will really clean up the underhood appearance. How accessable with those coils be?

Chris

53Vipette

11-10-2015, 11:25 AM

oOh, that's cool! That will really clean up the underhood appearance. How accessable with those coils be?

Chris

They are right inside the glove box and the dash can be removed in a few minutes.

53Vipette

11-10-2015, 11:42 AM

Both sides of the trans tunnel and all the firewall pieces are trimmed and fitted. Overall, the fit and finish on the trans tunnel is okay, there's still a bit to be desired but it gets covered mostly with the seats and people. I designed the seat brackets too, all once piece and they get folded on the mag brake and then their seams welded together. I made little tabs to hold panels in place and once those were welded in place I started adding patina to the panels. There's more stuff going on but overall it's going smoothly.

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sdg0080

11-10-2015, 12:09 PM

Man that is looking damn good. Love the patina on the firewall.

windows

11-10-2015, 02:49 PM

You took the engine out? I didn't think it would need new spark-plugs already. Your work is amazing. This car is freakin' me out.

wfo guy

11-10-2015, 05:08 PM

I'm old and have little memory left, is the purpose of this build to advertise your shop, speculation or ????
It's looking good. :)

Tincup

11-10-2015, 05:33 PM

Some nice metal work.....

53Vipette

11-10-2015, 09:51 PM

I'm old and have little memory left, is the purpose of this build to advertise your shop, speculation or ????
It's looking good. :)

It was to show what I could do in my shop but I think I'm going to finish my engineering degree and get on with life. Too many people wanting to do this for a living.

Protour_Pinto

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53Vipette

11-12-2015, 06:31 AM

Next time I make a Jockos run I will look you up! There was another guy on here from Santa Maria that was building a 57 Eldorado, Have you bumped into him?

https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/83294-1957-Eldorado-Brougham?highlight=Eldorado

I live in Florida now. Not many "real" builds here, just nova sub frame swap and 383 strokers in everything lol.

53Vipette

11-12-2015, 06:37 AM

I was able to get my last piece of my transmission tunnel built, patina'd and riveted together. I just need to cut a hole for a drive shaft now and build a mounting flange. I also received my new Woodward steering rack and my harnesses for the seats. It should be a busy next couple of weeks!

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53Vipette

11-13-2015, 03:25 AM

Semi productive day, it's now rounding hour 22 and it seems like I didn't get much done. I disassembled, cleaned one side of the front suspension and replaced the upper ball joint. It got dark before I was able to get to the other side. My Woodward Steering rack came yesterday and I needed to build mounts for it. I had to temporarily modify my Bankski steering arms to work for now. It took a long while to do a few simple things it feels like. The steering rack mount is made and welded in. It was a challenge to design them since they need to be strong, clear the air and brake lines that run along the front subframe. My lug nuts also came in too, purple might seem a bit outlandish but, I think it works well with the copper color rim. I did also trim the trans tunnel exit for the driveshaft. Tomorrow, I need to build a flange to mate the tunnel to the rear of the interior panels. I also have the pleasure of trying to neatly tunnel through my upper shock mount for my steering shaft to connect to the column.

Off camera stuff: I worked on my '30 Model A for a while and built a new front seat for it. I recently got it running (sort of) and found that it has a few stuck valves. It's soaking in oil but I'm hoping it comes loose without pulling the head or the manifolds.

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twosaturns

11-13-2015, 05:50 AM

this build gets awesomer and awesomer every day. your rate of progress and the quality of the build are impressive

sdg0080

11-13-2015, 05:21 PM

Did you order the Cardone reman calipers? They look killer in raw aluminum.

53Vipette

11-14-2015, 06:06 AM

Did you order the Cardone reman calipers? They look killer in raw aluminum.

They were polished at one point in time but are in need of some touch up.

53Vipette

11-14-2015, 06:06 AM

this build gets awesomer and awesomer every day. your rate of progress and the quality of the build are impressive

Thanks man. More coming with each day.

53Vipette

11-14-2015, 06:10 AM

I made this simple fan shroud and polish the end tanks on the radiator. I working on sorting out some of the bump steer on the front suspension too. Should have more done today.

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windows

11-14-2015, 06:25 AM

Looking real good man. Also, that is a quality looking steering rack. I don't envy you regarding the job ahead, boring the hole through the shock mount for the steering shaft. Hope you have a good quality burr to clean it up. Are you going to weld a tube in the hole? As always, your project is outstanding.

53Vipette

11-14-2015, 05:48 PM

chunger

11-14-2015, 11:18 PM

That fan shroud is mighty impressive. How is the fan held to it? I really need to build something like this for mounting an elec fan to a Fox Mustang radiator.

Any tips?

53Vipette

11-14-2015, 11:26 PM

That fan shroud is mighty impressive. How is the fan held to it? I really need to build something like this for mounting an elec fan to a Fox Mustang radiator.

Any tips?

The bead rolling makes the panel fairly strong as does the riveted flanges on the edge. I used riv-nuts to provide a mounting point for the four screws. You could send me your radiator and fan and I could make something for you. Other than that just good lay out and design principles will make an effective part.

GrabberGT

11-15-2015, 08:46 AM

I made this simple fan shroud and polish the end tanks on the radiator. I working on sorting out some of the bump steer on the front suspension too. Should have more done today.

I was wondering how you came up with your suspension geometry. Are you using any modeling software or mimicking and existing kit?

53Vipette

11-15-2015, 10:10 AM

I was wondering how you came up with your suspension geometry. Are you using any modeling software or mimicking and existing kit?

I used this software in the link below. The body was placed on a jig, drivetrain and suspension components mocked up and then data points were taken. I had a forum member help me with the optimum placement of the LCA/UCA mounts and rack placement. Overall, I think I ended up with a good starting point for this car.

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53Vipette

11-15-2015, 09:04 PM

I ran some of the lines for the fuel system and I was able to further mount the brake lines. Tomorrow I'll wrap up the air lines and brake lines for the rear.

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dusterbd13

11-17-2015, 08:30 AM

would you go into more depth on how you did the fuel system? I think im understanding the surge tank design youre using, but want to make sure.

53Vipette

11-17-2015, 12:54 PM

would you go into more depth on how you did the fuel system? I think im understanding the surge tank design youre using, but want to make sure.

The fuel system is pretty straight forward, it's a standard return style. What you are seeing isn't a surge tank, it's a surplus NASCAR canister pre-filter to catch any junk before the fuel pump and there's another finer filter upstream of the FPR.

53Vipette

11-21-2015, 09:36 PM

I made this bracket to mount my Ride Tech controller in an area behind my interior panels. The brake line shop whipped up these cool purple and black smoked brake lines that match the look of the car. I did sand blast the intake and valve covers. I applied the slate black patina on the intake and valve covers and got this cool dark cast color.

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sdg0080

11-21-2015, 09:49 PM

Wow, that I'd pure and simple sexy. You did a fantastic job on that man.

53Vipette

11-26-2015, 01:01 AM

Wow, that I'd pure and simple sexy. You did a fantastic job on that man.

Thanks man. I'm doing my best lol.

53Vipette

11-26-2015, 01:11 AM

So this took forever. Originally, I planned to only use a small diameter tube and different steering u-joints but things changed. Instead, I opted to use 3/4" weld on steering ends which means the opening in the shock tower needed to be much, much larger. I got a piece of 1.75 DOM and began to open up the holes. Several hours later I had three holes and a piece of tube that fit. It's a good feeling to sit in the car and feel the rack work. Still a lot of work left to clean up that shock tower area but it's been solid forward progress.

As a side note, I recently got my 1930 Model A Tudor running and driving. That's why the updates have been spotty lately.

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