2010 Camaro, or other Short Master Cylinder?

[INTMD8]

Anyone try using one of these for more room in the engine compartment? (I'm using 4 wheel C6 brakes).

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The CPP vette master I currently have is taking up too much real estate and I would prefer to make a shallower bend off of my turbocharger if possible.

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[Apogee]

The 2010 Camaro M/C sure is stubby...hadn't noticed that yet. Is the stud spacing and register diamter the common GM spec of 3.40" and 37.5mm [1.476"]?

Is your twin-turbo setup going to generate adequate vacuum levels to supply your booster? Is that a single-9" diaphragm unit? Have you considered running manual brakes? If the short M/C idea doesn't work, you could consider reverse hung master cylinders and pedal assemblies like those offered by Wilwood, Tilton, etc.

Tobin
KORE3

[dontlifttoshift]

Looks like a dual 8"....I think. You can also recess the booster into the firewall. It looks cleaner and would help free up some space.

I like manual brakes but that's a big car.

Kugel does a pedal assembly that swings everything 90 degrees then the booster and master would be inside the firewall. http://www.kugelkomponents.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=4_5

[INTMD8]

Tobin,

I'm not sure on any measurements, I just noticed it on a car at the shop and thought I would ask about it.

The engine will have high vacuum as I'm going to run a very small cam, it will idle dead smooth. Booster is dual 9 inch.

I would prefer power brakes as the car is going to weigh at or above 5000lbs when completed.

Kugel setup looks neat but I would rather keep the master cylinder outside of the car.

I can get the pipe past it as-is but a little breathing room would be nice. Is a C6 master cylinder any shorter than the old cast iron one?

Thanks for the input guys.

[Apogee]

The C5/C6 master cylinders measure ~6.75" from the mounting flange to the end of the casting...I'm not sure how that compares to the cast iron unit you have now.

Aside from a shorter MC, which I like the idea of, you could recess the assembly into the firewall as suggested above or you could rotate the hole assembly and point the MC towards the engine. The 66-77 Ford Bronco uses a angle bracket and pivot fulcrum to do basically the same thing except it points the MC towards the inner fender instead...i must admit it looks a bit odd though, and your engine compartment is already well on it's way to looking pretty damn good.

[INTMD8]

Thanks for the info. I think the C5/C6 master would be enough (the one I currently have is 8.25 long I believe).

I would probably fab up a stainless reservoir for it as I don't think the plastic would look right on this car.

I was thinking about shifting the entire assembly completely inside the drivers fender (and actuating it with a linkage/torsion bar setup) before mounting it on the firewall but in the end I thought it would be better to keep it simple. I would hate to go through all the work and be unhappy with pedal feel.

Recessing the assembly would be quite a bit of work at this point and would also require a different pedal. I would do it if it was absolutely necessary but I think that just changing the master will get it done.

I need to contact you sometime about getting a rear bracket/parking brake setup to adapt the C6 brakes to the 9in housing.

Thanks again.

-Jim

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