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rogue
03-12-2011, 12:53 PM
I'll keep this anonymous. But this type of crap irks me. This is regarding some wheels i have for sale.
buyer "$1800 shipped?"
I told him he was the highest bidder so far.
"Let me know, I don't waste peoples time."
I finally say lets get the deal done. $1800 shipped. I'll get the boxes ready.
I get a message back "orry I was out of town for a few days and just got your message. I will do $1600 shipped, let me know. "
I send a message quoting his own words about not wasting peoples time and get this back
"Really no reason to be rude."
I miss when a mans word was good enough. I hate this lowballer sneaky type of stuff. Atleast the boxes are here.
Vegas69
03-12-2011, 01:28 PM
That's horse puckey. He probably doesn't have the money anyway.
Some men do still keep their word.
ROBS6T8
03-12-2011, 01:43 PM
Yes, I can see why you would be irked! I agree with you 100%.
77thor
03-12-2011, 02:26 PM
Some folks just like to f--k with people...
rogue
03-12-2011, 02:45 PM
guy now offered me $1500 just to be a ****.
parsonsj
03-12-2011, 03:08 PM
A man's word is as good as it ever was. You just got "lucky".
Tony_SS
03-12-2011, 03:21 PM
He wants the best price - can you blame him? Stuff's only worth what someone's willing to pay.
guy now offered me $1500 just to be a ****.
post his name and he wont do it again, better yet PM me his name and Ill post it because I want to know who not to sell to on this site and he's not man enough to nut and say anything anyways, probably just some broke ass with no car in living in his parents garage
He wants the best price - can you blame him? Stuff's only worth what someone's willing to pay.
umm yes i can blame him price was posted, we didn't tell him to build a car, cant afford it, don't do it, maybe he can go to his local piggly wiggley and argue about the price of milk with the manager
68Formula
03-12-2011, 04:22 PM
He wants the best price - can you blame him?
Buyer made an offer less than asking price (basically seller has to eat the cost of shipping), and then when the seller accepted the offer, instead of paying, asked for an another 11% discount.
Flash68
03-12-2011, 04:38 PM
What a piece of work.
Six_Shooter
03-12-2011, 04:44 PM
I'll give you $49.99 shipped, an I want them polished too. :P lol
Anyway, yeah, I don't understand the offer less than already offered mentality. I've had that happen to me, I usually sell to someone else, just out of spite. ;)
I'd tell him to pound sand. His actions are beyond insulting.
Mr.VENGEANCE
03-12-2011, 05:21 PM
dude.. ill give you 20 bucks and some belly lint.
ahhahahah!!
ErikLS2
03-12-2011, 05:45 PM
Post up who it is so if I sell something on here I can post one price for him and another 10% less price for everyone else.
Derek69SS
03-12-2011, 06:29 PM
Dude clearly doesn't understand how making a deal works...
Tony_SS
03-12-2011, 06:54 PM
I don't understand why its taken so personally... it's not like he came to your house and kicked the dog.
You said 'bidder' so you accepted his offer and he lowered his 'bid' down $200.. that's hardly 'low balling'... now if offered 1200 or less I might consider that low balling.
Its nothing to get worked up over imo.
hifi875
03-12-2011, 07:11 PM
^^ because he made a offer. you don't renegotiate a offer. I wouldn't sell it to him period.
jpdeuce
03-12-2011, 07:19 PM
As far as I'm concerned you don't offer to pay $XXX then once seller accepts the offer then hit em for a lower amount. Once you offer $XXX and seller accepts then thats it. I get this type alot. I also hate it when you quote something then a week later the same guy get asks to price the same thing. Then again a month later. Then again three months later. And THEN..........
79-TA
03-12-2011, 07:23 PM
You don't lower your offer for no reason. Especially after the initial offer was accepted. Especially after he said he doesn't waste people's time. It's not like he was lowering his offer during "open negotiation."
I assume this is for your set of CCW's? With tires? A year ago, before I had my current wheels, I'd have scooped that up in a heartbeat. I love blacked out mesh style wheels.
*just went and reread the classified post. Still a good deal for just the wheels.
Tony_SS
03-12-2011, 07:26 PM
I agree its in bad taste... not something I'd do. But its not exactly 'low balling'... if this rubs him wrong I'd recommend him not posting them on craigslist. lol
srh3trinity
03-12-2011, 08:09 PM
I fight to get the best deal, but if you agree on a price then that is the price unless the seller wants to cut you a better deal. If you wanted the lower price, you should have tried for that in the first place.
Six_Shooter
03-12-2011, 08:27 PM
I fight to get the best deal, but if you agree on a price then that is the price unless the seller wants to cut you a better deal. If you wanted the lower price, you should have tried for that in the first place.
This^^
shmoov69
03-12-2011, 08:47 PM
Klassy!! LoL!!
79-TA
03-12-2011, 09:01 PM
I agree its in bad taste... not something I'd do. But its not exactly 'low balling'... if this rubs him wrong I'd recommend him not posting them on craigslist. lol
Imperfect thread label notwithstanding, he didn't post on CL, but rather this site's own classified section.
LateNight72
03-12-2011, 09:04 PM
I don't know if Lowballers annoy me more, or if people who say "I want it, I'll take it, Let me know when I can come get them, _______" then never return calls/texts/PMs/etc.
I think it's the tirekickers.
srh3trinity
03-12-2011, 09:29 PM
I don't know if Lowballers annoy me more, or if people who say "I want it, I'll take it, Let me know when I can come get them, _______" then never return calls/texts/PMs/etc.
I think it's the tirekickers.
I would rather deal with a lowballer than the other folks. I have sat around at my house waiting on somebody to come and buy something and they never show.
As far as I'm concerned you don't offer to pay $XXX then once seller accepts the offer then hit em for a lower amount. Once you offer $XXX and seller accepts then thats it. I get this type alot. I also hate it when you quote something then a week later the same guy get asks to price the same thing. Then again a month later. Then again three months later. And THEN..........
happens at our shop alot, Bruno the engine builder at the shop calls them "Wind Merchants"
novaderrik
03-12-2011, 09:40 PM
tell him that the price just jumped up to $2500, and it isn't going any lower than that.
Vegas69
03-12-2011, 10:08 PM
Post his handle, this politically correct bull crap has to stop somewhere.
Damn True
03-12-2011, 11:02 PM
Yeah...a bit of a dirtbag move as far as I'm concerned. On the bright side, better to find out sooner than later. It didn't cost you anything other than a bit of aggravation.
406 Q-ship
03-13-2011, 12:18 AM
If he agreed to 1800 and has since tried to underhanded chiselling down to 1600 then 1500, tell him you will cut him a hell of a deal.......2500 + he pays shipping. Tell him it is a "handling the BS" fee. What a dirtbag.
justasquid
03-13-2011, 02:27 AM
I agree with raising the price to him. Its not like he's going to buy them anyway. Hopefully he finds this thread and realizes what piece he truly is. Some people don't know they are D-bags.
I had a guy set up a deal when I was selling a bike a few years back. The bike was worth at least 10,000 and I was asking 7,000 for it. We talked on the phone several times, he knew the price and was happy with it. I wasted the entire day waiting for him and he finally shows up. the first words out of his mouth are: I have 2500 in cash." he tried telling some bs story of his buddy who just bought the same bike for 2000 so 2500 was a good deal for me. Long story short, I told him no way and he left. But he called back about 5 times, each time raising his price. He finally calls and says, ok.... I'll pay the 7,000 for it, when do you want to do the deal. I told him the price has recently gone up to 10,000. He screams "are you Fing kiding me!" I say nope, a buddy of mine just saw the same bike sell for 11,000, so its a good deal for you. Probably not the most mature way to handle it, but it sure felt good to give that guy a taste of his own medicine. Luckily, I didn't need the money or I probably would have sold it to him.
I know, it doesn't help your situation. And mine was a craigslist ad, so its to be expected a little. But it sucks a bit more when you are a member of a community and you get this kind of stuff.
Tiger
03-13-2011, 05:08 AM
Its full of them out there! I mean, I do also try to get a better price on an ad but once a price is agreed its agreed.
I'm going to part out my BMW 540I and aguy was interested in the V8 and the six speed and we were talking about when he was going to pick it up for €2500, I then got a message where he offered to save me the job of lifting the engine and that he would take the whole car for €2500... yeah right...
Then its always fun if you are posting a part for like $150 and a guy sends you a message that the part is only worth $40 so he will give you that.
DarkBuddha
03-13-2011, 06:38 AM
First, f!@# him. He's a schmoe and lacks integrity. Classic dickhead.
Second, I don't understand the term "lowballer" exactly. I know folks think it means being a douche and trying to get something for nothing, but what it really means is offering significantly less than something is worth in an effort to get a killer deal. And really, who doesn't want a killer deal? I figure whatever is offered is either what they think it's worth or what they can afford to pay. It's at your discretion whether you take it. And if they do what this dickhead did, you tell 'em to f-off and put 'em on your ignore list.
Now as for posting their screen name or real name, I think this is exactly where a buyer/seller feedback area would be useful to relay such experiences. So next time someone goes to sell/buy something they've got a heads-up on the kind of person they might be dealing with.
67rally
03-13-2011, 06:55 AM
I was selling a set of Porsche Cup wheels/tires for a friend and ran into someone like this. The guy offered about 20% less than I was asking, which I accepted. After 2 phone calls, 5 e-mails and 10 pictures the guy came to look at the wheels. He left and said he would think about it. He e-mailed a few days later and asked for another 20% off, we agreed on 10% off. 2 days after we agreed on the final price, he e-mailed me and asked me to deliver them because he didn't want to drive 45 minutes to pick them up or get his car dirty.
No sale.
parsonsj
03-13-2011, 07:04 AM
I just sold a bunch of tools (my first generation set, if you will) on craigslist. Without exception, everybody I dealt with came through. They showed up on time, brought cash, had the right setup to haul the tools away, etc. It was a nice affirmation of the best of the human condition.
After that, my wife tried to sell some antique china sets she got from her elderly aunt, and we got some real bizarre responses. One lady who said she was traveling to England and would send a certified check and her moving company to come and pick it up. She lost interest when my wife told her the check would have to clear before the mover came.
jp
I just sold a bunch of tools (my first generation set, if you will) on craigslist. Without exception, everybody I dealt with came through. They showed up on time, brought cash, had the right setup to haul the tools away, etc. It was a nice affirmation of the best of the human condition.
After that, my wife tried to sell some antique china sets she got from her elderly aunt, and we got some real bizarre responses. One lady who said she was traveling to England and would send a certified check and her moving company to come and pick it up. She lost interest when my wife told her the check would have to clear before the mover came.
jp
Most transactions I have been involved in as the seller have been positive like your experiences. I'd like to think my experiences and actions as a buyer have been positive for the seller as well.
The wife's experience is a classic CL scam. People still fall for it years after it's been shown to be a scam.
Steve68
03-13-2011, 09:37 AM
Take them to the garage, put a piece of plywood on them, then place a picture in the add, how there not for sale anymore, you've turned them into a new table in the garage,
srh3trinity
03-13-2011, 09:44 AM
I just sold a bunch of tools (my first generation set, if you will) on craigslist. Without exception, everybody I dealt with came through. They showed up on time, brought cash, had the right setup to haul the tools away, etc. It was a nice affirmation of the best of the human condition.
After that, my wife tried to sell some antique china sets she got from her elderly aunt, and we got some real bizarre responses. One lady who said she was traveling to England and would send a certified check and her moving company to come and pick it up. She lost interest when my wife told her the check would have to clear before the mover came.
jp
The Nigerian Check scam. There is a whole website devoted to a guy who messes with these scammers. Google ebola monkey man, it is pretty funny stuff. We have a litter of puppies that we are trying to sell and I have had a few check scammers try to make a deal on the puppies. It is hard to believe the lengths people will go to.
rogue
03-13-2011, 10:05 AM
after he offered him 1500 I offered him a link to this thread
L8869
03-13-2011, 11:22 AM
Well I am the so called lowballer. And just to clarify I do not like to get into arguments online, I prefer to talk to people one on one when I have an issue. Not try to get everyone to bash someone by telling just one side of the story. I treat everyone with respect and when I make a deal I 100% stick to it.
What happen was Rogue put his wheels up for sale for $1800. I immediately ask "would he would take $1600 shipped" on 2/28? He said no. Which is his right. I immediately replied back with "$1800 shipped?" a few minutes later and he did not respond.
Several days later I get a response that I was the best offer so far on 3/4 and I said ok let me know. He did not respond.
Several days later he then sends me an email saying ok lets do the deal on 3/6. I was out of town and responded as soon as I received it. I said I would do the $1600. He responds by telling me to be a man and quotes what I had said basically telling me I am wasting his time. I treat everyone with respect and courtesy and I expect the same. I do not respond well when I feel I am being talked down to or someone is being rude for no reason.
Money was not the issue with this situation, it was all in how it was handled. I want to make a deal and move on, not string it along for a week or two to get people to bid against each other. Anyone who has dealt with me will tell you I make a deal and stick to it. I have bought over $60k worth of parts and cars off of this board this year alone and have not had one bad dealing.
Again I do not like airing this deal on the board but apparently Rogue is not going to let it go. He did send me a link so I feel obligated to show that there are 2 sides to every story and I do not support the bashing of anyone publicly especially without all of the facts. AND if we both are just having a big misunderstanding due to things being lost in translation via PMs, I am willing to let it go and put it behind us.
parsonsj
03-13-2011, 11:44 AM
Thread locked. Only rogue and L8869 are allowed to post. PM any moderator, and we'll unlock it for you to post, and then we'll lock it again.
I will only observe that rogue doesn't follow our recommended policy of putting a real name in his signature.
https://www.pro-touring.com/showthread.php?50566-Who-the-heck-are-you-people-(everyone-please-read.)
L8869
03-13-2011, 12:07 PM
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