View Full Version : Updating my '69 Camaro
Rybar
11-24-2010, 03:50 PM
Well this has been in the works for a while. I've been wanting to mini-tub and update my Camaro for quite some time. And get rid of my beloved TTII's which everyone online hates :lol: As you all know one thing leads to another. :lol: I've learned from the best on this site :D
I'm an oldschool, tried tested and true kind of person. I had been wanting a set of Fikse's for years. And when the company closed shop about a year ago I was crushed. :lol: Don't get me wrong, I love alot of the Forgeline, Rushforth, Boze, Newgen etc wheels. But when Frank from Prodigy posted some killer deals on some classic Fikse wheels I had to jump on it. I originally wanted the Profil 5s. But after I kept looking (many, many hours :lol: ) at Jay's (JamesS113) Killer '69 Project, I decided that the FM5's were such a classic killer look and just fit the '69 Camaro so perfectly. I've always liked them since I saw them on the Mule and SW's '69 many moons ago.
So, on with the updates. I ended up ordering 18 x 8.5 fronts and 18 x 12 rears in Technipolish from Frank. I like polished wheels with the paint colour of my car the best. Again, a little oldschool but I think it works the best. Black and and dark centers look good, but more of an undertstated race theme. Not what I want for my car.
With the re-org of the company the wheels ended up taking about 6 months to get. I was patient to wait for what I always wanted. Frank helped stay on top of them to get them completed and delivered.
In the meantime I sent Frank and a few other suppliers like Speedtech about a million emails about rear suspensions and rear end options. I really liked the Speedtech Torque Arm and DSE Quadra link, but when Frank told me that the Alston G-Link could be installed under a stock trunk floor that kind of sold it for me. The other main things were packaging. I could re-use my stock width Ricks tank, could get my rear exit tail pipes to work (the G-link seems to have the best tailpipe clearance which was very important for me) and I would re-use my current sway bar and subframe connectors.
Now if the car were in the shell, builder stage I would have probably went with DSE but my car is currently complete, driving etc. I wanted a kit with the least invasive install and best exhaust clearance. And I liked the fact that the triangulated 4-link design is good for road course and drag racing applications vs the other styles.
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I also went with the Moser 12-bolt 33 spline axles, Tru-Trak posi with 3.73's. I have not recieved this yet, just waiting to send Frank the measurements. I considered the wave-trac with 35 spline but Franks says it's overkill.
These are pics of the wheels when I first got them. I originally ordered 6.375" BS on the rears. And when I got them I just wasn't happy, I wanted a deeper lip. So I contacted the Rep Danny Gol and we made a deal to re-hoop the rears to 5.375" BS. This took a few months as well. Fikse is a little slow, but they were very good to deal with and they are local to me now under new ownership.
Anyways, onto some pics.
18 x 12 6.375" BS
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18 x 8.5's
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With Toyo R888 Rubber.
245-40-18 fronts
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335-30-18 Rears
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Rybar
11-24-2010, 03:51 PM
So after I had the wheels Re-hooped to 5.375" BS they now look like this:
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Rybar
11-24-2010, 03:52 PM
So the other updates I have going on are some on-going minor problems. The car has been making a rattling noise under acceleration for a little while. I had a buddy go through the car trying to figure it out. He ended up doing the following:
- Installed solid motor mounts. (for some reason my car has trashed 2 sets of poly mounts)
- New poly trans mount
- Fixed some wiring and gauges
- checked the entire exhaust for leaks and tightened everything up
- new header gaskets
- installed a new GM t-stat and did a coolant flush.
While he had the car, he had a tranny shop listen to the noise, well the owner convinced him it was the tranny for sure. So he ended up pulling the Tranny and we had it rebuilt with the Stage II kit from The Gearbox Co: 600-650 hp capacity
http://www.thegearbox.org/catalog/item/3838217/7824166.htm
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Once the Tranny was pulled apart it ended up needed new 5th, 6th and reverse gears and sychros.
I also ended up going with a brand new Spec Stage 3+ Clutch. 900+ ft lbs capacity
All in all, cost me about $2k to rebuild the tranny and clutch. But it now feels very solid, the new clutch engages really nice but the damn noise still persists.
Rybar
11-24-2010, 03:52 PM
Some pics of the Tranny and clutch, sorry crappy phone pics:
Tranny pulled:
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Old Spec Stage 3:
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New Spec Stage 3+ cluch disc:
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Stage II tranny rebuilt and going back in:
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Tucks69
11-24-2010, 04:49 PM
Looking Good! Making a great Camaro even nicer!
srh3trinity
11-24-2010, 06:24 PM
Great wheel choice. It is gonna look great with your paint.
wellis77
11-24-2010, 10:41 PM
Looking good! I'm looking forward to seeing these wheels on your car.
Rybar
11-25-2010, 09:54 AM
Thanks guys, I've been looking forward to seeing these wheels and some fat 335's on my car too for many years. :lol:
Chicken Louie
11-25-2010, 11:49 AM
Ryan
Your car always looked good, it has been one of my favs and now even better!!
CliffS
11-25-2010, 10:29 PM
Always one of my fav's Ryan, stunning choice!
colt zantop
11-26-2010, 07:12 AM
very nice new choices...cant wait to see it done!
I'm right there with everyone else. I've liked your car for a long time and think these updates will only make it better.
Mr.VENGEANCE
11-26-2010, 08:01 AM
glad to see youre doing some revamping... and throw some pics of you car in its current, so the young guns know your ride.
Rybar
11-26-2010, 10:42 AM
Thanks guys, good idea Amir.
My leaf springed, non-tubbed Torque Thrust II wheeled Camaro as it is before the mods.
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Vinz68
11-26-2010, 12:52 PM
Gonna look great with the wheels and 335's !
mdprovee
11-28-2010, 07:28 AM
Love the wheels, and like the updates.
LeighP
11-28-2010, 07:55 AM
Excellent choice of wheels!
Rybar
11-29-2010, 02:03 PM
Thanks guys, I will post some pics when I have some updates.
Steve68
11-29-2010, 03:03 PM
I guess you and I are waiting for rear end kits from Frank!
I got my Fikse's during the last year blowout too,
Now I'm just waiting on parts and rear end shortening!
Great idea on the upgrade/dates!
Rybar
11-29-2010, 03:29 PM
Thanks Steve,
If you get ahold of Frank let me know, he's unreachable right now.
Steve68
11-29-2010, 07:06 PM
seems to be the norm, you have to catch him at the right time, one day I talked to him about 5 times in 45 min,
Rybar
12-02-2010, 04:34 PM
Time for some updates:
Tubs cut out, G-link and wheels mocked up.
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TUBED
12-02-2010, 07:43 PM
The Fikse's look hot mocked up under the car, very nice.
I noticed you stated that you had solid motor mounts installed with a poly trans. mount, check to make sure with the manufacture that you don't need a solid trans. mount. as well with the solid motor mounts . The reason why I mention this is that I have seen the transmission case crack or bust with solid mounts and a rubber cushion OEM style trans mount on a Pro Street truck back in the early 90's. It was running a SBC w/400 Turbo and it destroyed the case.
I hope this doesn't happen to your ride and I'm not looking for something to pick at, I just thought I'd mention it. Gerald
Steve68
12-02-2010, 07:50 PM
Nice pics I right there with ya,
johnny68
12-02-2010, 08:33 PM
cool build its getting me excited on doing the same to the nova definately be watching this build
John
srh3trinity
12-02-2010, 08:35 PM
I bet you can't wipe that smile off your face that you get every time you look at those Fikse's and fat tires sitting under your already great looking car. It is gonna look awesome!
Rybar
12-02-2010, 08:45 PM
The Fikse's look hot mocked up under the car, very nice.
I noticed you stated that you had solid motor mounts installed with a poly trans. mount, check to make sure with the manufacture that you don't need a solid trans. mount. as well with the solid motor mounts . The reason why I mention this is that I have seen the transmission case crack or bust with solid mounts and a rubber cushion OEM style trans mount on a Pro Street truck back in the early 90's. It was running a SBC w/400 Turbo and it destroyed the case.
I hope this doesn't happen to your ride and I'm not looking for something to pick at, I just thought I'd mention it. Gerald
Thanks Gerald, I was told the opposite. Solid/solid can cause the tranny case to crack.
bonecrrusher
12-03-2010, 07:01 AM
Nice upgrade!
Gandalf
12-03-2010, 08:15 AM
Gonna look killer man! Thanks for taking the time to stop and take pics of the install. Awesome to see someone taking on the challenge of actually doing a mini-tub and G-Bar install on an otherwise "finished" car. Nice work.
And hey - TTII's might not be the most original wheel out there but I don't care what anyone says, they still have a classic look to them that noone has managed to mimic decently IMHO. Don't get me wrong, love Fikse & Forgeline but I will always like TTII's.
G.
Vegas69
12-03-2010, 09:11 AM
Thanks Gerald, I was told the opposite. Solid/solid can cause the tranny case to crack.
Yep, solid motor mounts require a poly tranny mount.
Rybar
12-03-2010, 10:58 AM
Thanks everyone, yes I have a big smile. I've wanted steam rollers for a while. And Gandalf I couldn't agree more, TTII's are played out but they still look so damn good. I always liked the way they looked on my car.
Steve68
12-03-2010, 11:15 AM
I still have my TTII's there 16x8 with 5"of BS, pd $700 for them almost 8yrs ago, that was a deal, custom order BS wheel was like $286ea, they're still spotless! I love em too!!!!!
they wont fit on the Camaro but they look great on the Nova! along with the Alumastars for the strip!
Rybar
12-03-2010, 11:26 AM
BTW my TTII 18's are for sale if anybody's interested. But I'd prefer a local sale as shipping would be too much of a hassle.
CruizinKev
12-03-2010, 11:37 AM
looks great so far! love the wheels with the red of the car
36couper
12-03-2010, 02:14 PM
You've taken a beautiful car to a whole new level! Love the way those wheels look! Good choice.
Rybar
12-09-2010, 02:52 PM
Tubs are in, welded, seam sealed and painted. As well as the G-link brackets. Just waiting on the Moser rear from Frank.
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canrc
12-09-2010, 08:24 PM
Car looks great love them wheels!
Rybar
12-10-2010, 11:28 AM
Car looks great love them wheels!
Thanks Raj, post up some updated pics of your crazy build! For those that don't know, same shop doing my car is building Raj a Max-G chassis'd '69 Camaro.
johnny68
12-10-2010, 08:49 PM
coming along great im on your heels doing my tubs what did you use to finish off the truck is it that zylotone stuff? of? one more? did you order rear end than fiqure out wheel spacing or did you get what ever backspacing you liked than ordered rear end width from frank?
john p.s. are you going to weld in the g bar bracket might be a good idea
wblanton
12-11-2010, 09:09 AM
Nice wheel choice. You are going to love the G-bar setup it hooks up nicely. Wish I woulda mini tubbed prepaint. Not as easy to do on a vert after paint. I agree the polished wheels look better with your paint scheme, it's all about the BLING..
Rybar
12-11-2010, 10:43 AM
coming along great im on your heels doing my tubs what did you use to finish off the truck is it that zylotone stuff? of? one more? did you order rear end than fiqure out wheel spacing or did you get what ever backspacing you liked than ordered rear end width from frank?
john p.s. are you going to weld in the g bar bracket might be a good idea
I'm not sure what brand type of paint it is, I'll have to check with the shop. I'm sure it's just a generic splatter paint. Am looking for an OEM look in the trunk.
Wheels and backspace were ordered first, mocked them up in the car and then ordered the rear-end from Frank.
G-Link brackets are welded according to the shop.
Rybar
12-11-2010, 10:44 AM
Nice wheel choice. You are going to love the G-bar setup it hooks up nicely. Wish I woulda mini tubbed prepaint. Not as easy to do on a vert after paint. I agree the polished wheels look better with your paint scheme, it's all about the BLING..
Thanks, with my paint bright wheels look best IMO.
So you know as well as I do these cars are never done. When are you gonna do the tubs? ;)
trapin
12-11-2010, 11:17 AM
Nice progress Ryan.
wblanton
12-11-2010, 11:19 AM
Yes they are never done, mine is in Florida now getting a DSE front subframe and some other upgrades. Frank advised strongly against me doing mini tubs, unless I wanted to possibly repaint. So not anytime soon. Maybe in a couple of years I will send it down to freshen up the paint and get the mini's done then.
I always liked your car cause it was one of the few candy red I could find when I was doing mine candy. Still love that color on a first gen, especially with ghosting.
I was thinking about some engine upgrades but they are kinda pointless without some more grip out back, so I will do that when I do the tubs.
Rybar
12-11-2010, 01:22 PM
Yes, sounds like a plan. Engine upgrades and mini-tubs. Why would you have to repaint if doing the tubs? Should only be the underside and trunk needing paint??
Rybar
01-19-2011, 05:31 PM
Well here it is, everything is back together. Had a few minor hiccups. Moser Rear end got delayed in shipping, Baer brakes e-brake cable caused some problems and the exhaust was a bit of work to fit but they got it to work with my stock width Ricks tank (unmodified) and kept my tailpipes exiting like I wanted. Also they figured how to re-use my rear sway bar. Should have the car back next week.
Back end needs to settle and then we'll lower the ride height to get a better stance. And the Fikse center caps on the front don't fit. Need to get some raised ones to clear my spindle/rotor dust covers.
Also wanted to mention the shop that did the work. Radical Rides in Surrey, BC, Canada. Owner Bill gave me some great service, great price and really great customer service. And did the work in a very timely fashion. Had the rear end not been delayed I would have had the car done a few weeks ago. I'm definately going to recommend them and take my car back for some future mods. http://www.radicalrides.ca/main/
Bill also figured my rattling noise problem, the tranny shifter was tapping the trans tunnel shifter hole. It was clearanced a bit and shop owner Bill says it's gone. Real happy about that!
I'll get some better pics up when I have it back.
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tones2SS
01-19-2011, 05:46 PM
Wow, that looks killer Ryan. Very nice.
That thing screams, DRIVE ME!:6gears:
69cortezsilver
01-19-2011, 06:17 PM
man..car looks killer with the fikse wheels...you dont happen to have your old tt2's for sale do ya?
Roberts68
01-19-2011, 07:21 PM
Looks great, more pics!!
...you dont happen to have your old tt2's for sale do ya?
X2 on that thought.
Rybar
01-19-2011, 07:34 PM
Thanks guys. TTII's are for sale, but to ship from Canada would be too expensive. So I'll probably just sell them locally.
69cortezsilver
01-19-2011, 08:04 PM
hey..hold on a second! hahah im really close to bc canada in bellingham, wa..i sent you a pm get back to me when u can, im definatly interested
johnny68
01-19-2011, 08:41 PM
ryan looking good man
john
canrc
01-19-2011, 09:24 PM
looks great Ryan, I got a chance to see it at the shop... Wheels look awesome!:twothumbs
Rybar
01-19-2011, 10:08 PM
Thanks guys
Dons67
01-20-2011, 08:07 AM
A perfect vehicle made better? Not too many can do that - well done!!
Rybar
01-20-2011, 10:46 AM
A perfect vehicle made better? Not too many can do that - well done!!
Hey Thanks Don, I wouldn't say it's perfect. But I appreciate it.
CliffS
01-20-2011, 10:56 AM
Was a killer car, now even better. love it!!
94SNGLTURBO
01-20-2011, 12:42 PM
looks great... need some videos of it rolling :)
colt zantop
01-20-2011, 02:30 PM
looks killer!
Rybar
01-21-2011, 11:39 AM
Was a killer car, now even better. love it!!
Thanks Cliff
looks great... need some videos of it rolling :)
I will for sure, and I will definately take some better pics with the rear end lowered properly.
looks killer!
Thanks Colt
scherp69
01-21-2011, 11:47 AM
Love the car and the upgrades Ryan. I can't believe I never noticed that you were in Burnaby. One of my brother's lives in Burnaby. Any more plans for the car?
Rybar
01-21-2011, 11:51 AM
Love the car and the upgrades Ryan. I can't believe I never noticed that you were in Burnaby. One of my brother's lives in Burnaby. Any more plans for the car?
Thanks Mike, yup good old Burnaby. Your in Chilliwack I assume?
Future plans are this, aftermarket subframe and 10" wide fronts with 275 rubber. And a carbon copy of Steve Rupps RHS 460 LS motor. But these aren't going to happen anytime soon. Going to run the car as is for now.
We should meet up, there is a local gathering in about 1 month that myself and a few other guys are going to. It's a cruise to Spanish Banks and possibly Langley as well. Some very nice rides usually come out.
scherp69
01-21-2011, 12:21 PM
Thanks Mike, yup good old Burnaby. Your in Chilliwack I assume?
Future plans are this, aftermarket subframe and 10" wide fronts with 275 rubber. And a carbon copy of Steve Rupps RHS 460 LS motor. But these aren't going to happen anytime soon. Going to run the car as is for now.
We should meet up, there is a local gathering in about 1 month that myself and a few other guys are going to. It's a cruise to Spanish Banks and possibly Langley as well. Some very nice rides usually come out.
Actually I'm in Kamloops. I go to Chilliwack once in a while for training. We make it down to the LMD every once in a while. I make day trips to Sumas for parts runs every few months. I'll let you know one of these times. Let me know if you're ever coming to the loops.
silver69
01-21-2011, 12:27 PM
Looks good.
Joe
ErikLS2
01-21-2011, 01:17 PM
Ryan, beuatiful car, just got better. Please post up how the g-bar feels in comparison to the leaf springs. I'm trying to decide on a triang. 4 bar or torque arm suspension for my 69.
1969CamaroRS
01-21-2011, 01:42 PM
Looking good! Nice meat in the back :smoke:
Rybar
01-21-2011, 05:00 PM
Actually I'm in Kamloops. I go to Chilliwack once in a while for training. We make it down to the LMD every once in a while. I make day trips to Sumas for parts runs every few months. I'll let you know one of these times. Let me know if you're ever coming to the loops.
Didn't know you were in Kamloops, I'm not up there very often. PM me if you ever come down.
Looks good.
Joe
Thanks Joe.
Ryan, beuatiful car, just got better. Please post up how the g-bar feels in comparison to the leaf springs. I'm trying to decide on a triang. 4 bar or torque arm suspension for my 69.
Thanks Erik and will do.
Looking good! Nice meat in the back :smoke:
Thanks Ed, your project thread was real helpful to visualize the install with the similar G-bar setup.
Motown 454
01-21-2011, 05:26 PM
Ryan those wheel make an already beautiful car look even better. Very nice!
Vegas69
01-21-2011, 05:31 PM
She's lookin good man. That sucker is going to hook nice in 2nd gear now. The ride will be great as well. Play with those shocks and find the sweet spot for cruising.
Bryce
01-21-2011, 08:20 PM
Nice ride!!
johnny68
01-21-2011, 08:25 PM
you gentlemen up north know how to do it very nice
john
Rybar
01-22-2011, 03:45 PM
Ryan those wheel make an already beautiful car look even better. Very nice!
Thanks Wayne, keep us posted on your badass build as well.
She's lookin good man. That sucker is going to hook nice in 2nd gear now. The ride will be great as well. Play with those shocks and find the sweet spot for cruising.
Thanks Todd, and for your advice on the rear suspension setup. Your project thread has been a great read. And I know you know how well these tires can stick.
Nice ride!!
Thanks Bryce.
you gentlemen up north know how to do it very nice
john
Thanks John, for sure there are some of us crazy Canucks up here that don't live in igloos and play hockey in thier back yard ice rinks lol.
Rybar
01-24-2011, 01:32 PM
Well Bill adjusted the height, says this is as low as it can go without the suspension binding. The springs still need to settle. They are 175 lb springs. Have to say I'm a little disappointed, I wanted the rear to sit lower than this but hoping once it settles it will? Any ideas or thoughts are welcome.
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Roberts68
01-24-2011, 02:36 PM
I think it is tough to judge on such a closeup. A more distant profile shot would help. I like the touch of rake your car had in the picture you still have in your sig line, that's the sort of stance I hope to achieve.
I'm looking forward to some more pics.
Rybar
01-24-2011, 04:14 PM
I just spoke to Bill. He's going to rebuild the upper shock cross member to raise the shock and lower the car more. I'm picky about the stance. This kind of sucks had I known I would have gone with the DSE kit but at least it will get the car sitting where I want it.
72Z/28
01-25-2011, 01:42 AM
I just spoke to Bill. He's going to rebuild the upper shock cross member to raise the shock and lower the car more. I'm picky about the stance. This kind of sucks had I known I would have gone with the DSE kit but at least it will get the car sitting where I want it.
Nice upgrades Rybar, and the car looks awesome. I know how it feels, it is really disappointing when things turn out not the way you want especially when it comes to the stance. I wonder how the stance in other camaros built by Prodigy Customs turned out nice with their G-Link.
silver69
01-25-2011, 07:50 AM
Installed the G-link last year had same problem with ride hieght, also limited on lowering when using 3" exhaust but heres how mine sits with 19's in back.
Joe
Jim98ta
01-25-2011, 09:39 AM
The ride height deal is a bit weird with the G-Link. I just mocked my rear up in my 69 to weld brackets on/etc. Was a little surprised to see that it won't go super low, and the rear cover actually will end up hitting the shock cross-member.
I think mine will be OK for my tastes when done, but I do wonder how some of the other G-Link equipped cars are so low.
Rybar
01-25-2011, 02:44 PM
Joe and Jim, thanks for the replies. Joe I think your 69 looks Killer.
So Bill ended up installing a shorter spring. Car is sitting alot lower now and the only problem he can see is the top of the diff pumpkin hitting the trunk floor as I have about 1.5" of travel. The new springs are 200 lb.
Sorry for the crappy pic:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/01/IMG00017201101251137-1.jpg
Steve68
01-26-2011, 01:09 PM
Hmmm, I know Frank would like to comment on this, but he's getting ready for the Mecum in Kississme, he called the other day and told me there having a mad thrash on 2 cars, my kits here and the VA kits next week,
what about Todds car his sits pretty low from the pics,
ELVIS_PRESLEY
01-28-2011, 09:09 AM
Did you get this right? Is it sitting how you want now?
Rybar
01-28-2011, 10:33 AM
Did you get this right? Is it sitting how you want now?
Yes, Bill installed a shorter spring and moved the shock position. He drove the car yesterday and said it drove well. No problems. I should have it back Monday I will post up my thoughts.
Rybar
02-18-2011, 12:16 PM
Finally got a nice day, took the car to work. Sorry for the crappy point and shoot pics and the car is filthy. Going to detail it up this weekend.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/02/Picture0151-1.jpg
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68400BIRD
02-18-2011, 01:19 PM
Looks very nice. Can't wait to see the pictures whan the car is detailed.
Bryce
02-18-2011, 01:21 PM
looks really good!
Steve68
02-18-2011, 07:11 PM
Looks good Ryan, sits good to me,
CruizinKev
02-19-2011, 03:37 AM
looks great!!!
69X22
02-19-2011, 04:07 AM
Man it looks like a whole different car, simply awesome! Probably already told you this but good taste in wheels..
Rybar
02-19-2011, 08:21 AM
Haha Thanks Tony, like your wheels too :D
Thanks guys, will clean her up and post some better shots this weekend
Rybar
06-08-2011, 10:24 AM
I know it's been a while, but a local photographer took a nice shot of my car clean this past weekend. I may get him to do a shoot of my car now.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/06/_MG_5369-1.jpg
John Wright
06-08-2011, 10:34 AM
Love the color.
johnny68
06-08-2011, 09:02 PM
boy that is eye popping no pun intended john but really its a beautiful car and shot
john
Rybar
08-13-2011, 12:20 PM
I know it's not really an update and I keep posting random pics but my buddy just sent me this one today I think it looks pretty good.
Just do not have time outside of work to take some beauty shots with twin 1 year olds at home.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/08/Copy2ofIMG2011081300019-1.jpg
CliffS
08-13-2011, 12:38 PM
I know it's been a while, but a local photographer took a nice shot of my car clean this past weekend. I may get him to do a shoot of my car now.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/06/_MG_5369-1.jpg
Very nice shot!!!
creekwood08
08-14-2011, 05:51 PM
Amazing looking car. I hope my 69 looks that good soon. this winter im going to start on the suspension and with all the diff options its hard to really know what to go with. I decided i think maybe to go with the g bar or air bar just for easy of installation. Does the quadralink allow the car to sit lower or offer more clearance for exhaust. And then i thought ill just at air rides air springs in to get the car to sit low when its parked but im afraid that the car at driving height will sit way to high. I really dont know which to go with.
Rybar
08-15-2011, 10:07 AM
Amazing looking car. I hope my 69 looks that good soon. this winter im going to start on the suspension and with all the diff options its hard to really know what to go with. I decided i think maybe to go with the g bar or air bar just for easy of installation. Does the quadralink allow the car to sit lower or offer more clearance for exhaust. And then i thought ill just at air rides air springs in to get the car to sit low when its parked but im afraid that the car at driving height will sit way to high. I really dont know which to go with.
Thanks man, I couldn't tell you what has the best exhaust clearance. I studied many photos online before I made a decision and I figured the G-link had some decent clearance since it doesn't use a panhard bar. But the upper links do cause clearance issues. I think most of the 4 links will require custom tailpipe routing. The DSE Quadralink may require the tank to have the 45 degree cutouts on each corner at the front like you see most of them. Airbar will let you slam the car low when parked but not sure how low you can run it when driving.
Rybar
08-15-2011, 01:21 PM
Just took these this weekend, same day as the last one I just posted.
Some better shots showing the stance. I think I'm good with it now:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/08/Picture022-1.jpg
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Bad94
08-15-2011, 01:31 PM
Color, stance, and wheel/tire, you hit it on the head.
I really like it.
Ripped
08-15-2011, 01:58 PM
Looks great, to me! Nicely done!
Ron.in.SoCal
08-15-2011, 02:21 PM
Nailed it Ry...!
Garymac69
08-16-2011, 10:25 AM
Ryan,
Do you have pics of the tailpipe routing on your car? I'm considering going with a 4-link.
BTW...love the stance!
Gary
Rybar
08-16-2011, 10:47 AM
Ryan,
Do you have pics of the tailpipe routing on your car? I'm considering going with a 4-link.
BTW...love the stance!
Gary
Thanks guys,
Gary I do have some crappy pics. PM your email address I can send them to you.
I'd like to get better ones on a lift at some point.
Rybar
09-12-2011, 04:08 PM
Not really an update of my car but cool none the less, this past weekend was a pretty large local car show and the evening before alot of guys cruise their cars. So I got together some gearhead buddies of mine and went for a cruise. Sorry for the crappy pics, it was dark when I took these. But met up with some cool rides I thought I would share. One is a 66 or 67 Chevelle with a Roadster Shop chassis, Asanti wheels and a Magnacharged LS3 and his brother just built an LS9 powered 69 Camaro. It's sporting AME front and rear clips and Forgeline 19" fronts and 20"x12" rears. The other cars are friends of mine, the Viper is my buddies it's running headers and full exhaust and the Jetstream Blue '08 Z06 is another friend of mine it has minor mods and 360 Forged wheels (which look sick in person) and then another buddy Alvin whom I met on this site has the super clean original ralley green 69 Z28. He has the orig motor/trans stored away and it's running a built 406 SBC and TKO 5-speed and billet ralleys. Super nice guy. We also cruised with a new 5th gen that's soon to be modded.
Anyways, enjoy the pics:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/1213months2011001-1.jpg
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Rybar
09-12-2011, 04:09 PM
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/1213months2011021-1.jpg
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StyleIn68
09-13-2011, 11:05 AM
What is the bad ass silver Chevelle? That is awesome!
hifi875
09-13-2011, 12:28 PM
that blue camaro is very nice!!!!!!
Rybar
09-13-2011, 12:40 PM
What is the bad ass silver Chevelle? That is awesome!
that blue camaro is very nice!!!!!!
Both cars were built by some local brothers, I just met them that night. Super nice guys.
FirebirdSteve
09-13-2011, 01:21 PM
:twothumbsFilling up with good ole Chevron 94 i see...
boostin05blacksti
09-28-2011, 07:27 AM
Rybar, Love the car and look man. Was wondering what your impressions are on the r888's? Lasting, noise, performance..? Thanks for your time, Steven
BigMal69
09-29-2011, 06:22 PM
I'll take any one of those rides. All of them are awesome.
Rybar
09-30-2011, 10:05 AM
Rybar, Love the car and look man. Was wondering what your impressions are on the r888's? Lasting, noise, performance..? Thanks for your time, Steven
So far I'm really happy with them. I haven't put a ton of miles on them but I can tell there is a ton more grip than my old 275 BFG's. Very little road noise and like I said have not put too many miles on them to see any wear. From what I remember they price out quite fairly so if they do wear fast I'll just replace with new ones, but can't really see that happening with street use.
I'll take any one of those rides. All of them are awesome.
Thanks man, it was a fun night and we had a few more nice rides lined up to meet that couldn't make it, if everyone had a little more notice it would have happened.
CliffS
04-22-2012, 12:35 PM
Ryan,
Do you have pics of the tailpipe routing on your car? I'm considering going with a 4-link.
BTW...love the stance!
Gary
Ryan,
same question here; any pics of the tailpipe route? thanks Cliff
Rybar
05-08-2012, 03:40 PM
Ryan,
same question here; any pics of the tailpipe route? thanks Cliff
Cliff, sorry for the late reply. I have a couple horrible pics that don't show much that would help. I need to get it on a hoist to get some decent shots. Shoot me your email and I will send you the ones I have for now.
CliffS
05-11-2012, 03:08 AM
Cliff, sorry for the late reply. I have a couple horrible pics that don't show much that would help. I need to get it on a hoist to get some decent shots. Shoot me your email and I will send you the ones I have for now.
No problem, pm sent, thanks!!
Rybar
05-14-2012, 11:37 AM
Well time for an update. Just picked this up for the '69. Looking to up the TQ more so than power.
It's a Brand New HKE built fully forged 383 shortblock. Going to swap everything over from my stock LS1 onto this motor.
Will most likely do this over next winter as the summers here are very short and the weather JUST got nice.
Specs:
Brand New LS1 Alum Block.
11.7:1 cr with 62cc Heads
LS6 383 Callies C-Series LS1 4.000 Crankshaft 24 tooth
Scat 4340 LS1 I-Beam 6.125 (.015 offset) Part # 2-ICR6125-7/16
Wiseco K464F3903 LS1 3cc Pistons 3.905 Bore 391g each
1/16,1/16,3.0 mm Rings 1.115 Comp. Height
Wiseco GFX Piston Rings
ACL 5M7298H Main Bearings for LSX - Race Bearings
ACL CB 663 H Rod Bearings for 2.100 SBC Chamfered Race Bearings Coated
234-5608 ARP Main Studs for LS1
Pics:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/05/P1310079-1.jpg
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lickitysplit
05-14-2012, 12:48 PM
Lots of tasty compression. What intake do you have for this engine?
Rybar
05-14-2012, 01:24 PM
Lots of tasty compression. What intake do you have for this engine?
Ported Fast 90mm by Tony Mamo.
lickitysplit
05-14-2012, 04:26 PM
Good choice, Mamo is the man.
jtm311
05-14-2012, 05:20 PM
looks good...
John
68TTT
05-14-2012, 05:52 PM
Car looks great! I have been drooling over those wheels for years, even before I had a car to put them on.
CliffS
05-14-2012, 11:05 PM
Sweet swap Ryan! Still follow your build.
6D9 Matt
05-15-2012, 08:20 AM
Ohhhhh man... very nice. Your car has always been one of my favorites on the board, and it just got that much better.
rfalker1
05-15-2012, 11:24 AM
Ryan the car looks great... I see that you have removed the chrome around the windows. Can you show a close up of the paint on the area where you removed the trim?? And I am guessing after you finished painting it, you never put the trim back on around the windows. Please enlighten me with you wisdom and pictures if you have time!!!
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