father & son 72 nova project (GREY MATTER)

[johnny68]

hey all my name is john and ive been around car my whole life (im 40) funny thing is im the only car guy in my entire family im hoping my 13 year old jacob will clinge on to the fun. my wife has a 99 bonnivelle that i hate its the only new smogable car we own so i told (asked) if i could build here another car so she wanted another nova ive had a 65 sedan and she drove a 62 wagon year ago. so i found this 72 in great shape on ebay up in napa valley trailered it home drove it 2 mile ran fine no problems great car. so what do i do completly tear it apart. my plans are leave the 350/400 tranny in it add vintage air speed tech arms still stay coils up front Daily driver remember and dse tubs and connectors with a g bar rear 235/40/18 on 8 in front and 295/45/18on 10.5 in back. heres some pictures
thanks John
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my son jacob got a yelling at for not having shoes on just a little kid 13 and a foot taller than me
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well today i pulled out the gas tank and always thought id would cool to find a build sheet on a car ive built and i found the build sheet on top of tank california car its pretty deteriorated but you can see it was built in van nuys california it has pwr disk and pwr steering and a 350 motor and brown paint just thought it was pretty cool also a buddy is letting me use his rottisery which will help when i do the tubs any way should be ordering a bunch of parts by the end of nov.so will have more pics. to add
john
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same motor just torn apart and cleaned

John

[Bryce]

Cool project welcome. Im in san diego too.

[Josue]

Nice project! A '72 Nova was my 1st car when I was your son's age!! Parent's paid $500 for it, they saw that I was starting to show an interest in cars, so they started me early. haha

I hope it works out for you and your son!

[ssmike]

Cool thread! I have a 72 Nova also, and am having it built with my pops.

Funny thing, Cris G. (of JCG Restorations) found our original build sheet in the exact same spot when he removed the tank!

[johnny68]

jacob my son getting nice and dirty cleaning off undercoat to drill out spot welds and cub out wells for tubs
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[Motown 454]

Good place to learn. Nice progress and cool deal working with your son on this project.

[johnny68]

well we havent worked on car to much lately but have gotten some parts in dse tubs and connectors, door hinge rebuild kit half height body mounts and working on c5 front brakes from the forum thanks Wayne also got the frame back from powder coat not bad for 140 bones id say
John
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[Bryce]

Nice progress, lunch at some point would be cool!

[johnny68]

got some work done on the nova started the dse tubs
john
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also had frame powder coated
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hope to have the tubs done by christmas
john

[johnny68]

thanks to carl for the speed tech arms bilstein shocks and coil set up super excited
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and wayne for the brake set up
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next parts will be speed tech torque arm set up hopefully in jan.
John

[Dalamar]

thats great you're doing this with your son.
my dad and I are building a 67 mustang.

nice looking parts, definately exciting.

[Bryce]

Nice score on the parts!

[CHAZMO1986]

I love ur projec!!!! I just wanted to give u some incentive pics of my 70 Nova, Keep up the great work, i cant wait to see more pics and progress!430384303943040

[johnny68]

I love ur projec!!!! I just wanted to give u some incentive pics of my 70 Nova, Keep up the great work, i cant wait to see more pics and progress!430384303943040

thanks chazmo im trying whole lot different than a 55 f100 so whats the details on your wheels size back spacing rear width ya know the whole 9 yards im going for a look of between yours and blakes/speed tech
john

[69projectKAOS]

very nice, me and my dad did the same thing with my car. keep up the good work!-Dom

[johnny68]

ok guys need some guidence the body is on the roto. still looking foward i intend to undercoat bottom after sub frame connectors and torque arm bracket is all welded in so what is the order i get it ready to do this. what i mean is in order to put connectors in ,,the subframe has to be in and straight than weld in connectors but not to sub frame pull sub frame under coat than reinstall subframe and weld to connectors?
doing the connectors should i have all suspension in car and on wheels or can i do it with just subframe on, on my 2 post lift?

[johnny68]

well what do you do if the kids are playing ther new video game ond wife is doing her thing on christmas morning ? you go out to garage and mock up front suspension, ive already done the gulstrand mod and painted some bolts and misc. parts i. i may not get to work on the car due to the 7 inch's of rain san diego got (phone lines hate water) they have use on 12 hour days from the 19th thru the 31st only day off is today but hey blake its mostly goint to your torque arm setup and maybe a housing then jon and justin drivers inc your up next for the wheels ill be calling you, well i hope all have a great christmas and a happy and safe new year
john

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[opnwide]

I understand that dilemma about the subframe connectors. In order to get the best possible alignment with my DSE subframe connectors, I dropped the body, attached and aligned the subframe, then hoisted it back into the air with the subframe on before I cut the slots for the connectors. Its a bit of work, but otherwise you're just guessing where to cut.

[johnny68]

well called up blake and ordered the torque arm set and 51 1/2 inch wide 9 inch housing. slowly but surely im making progress next is the steering and wheels take care all
john

[Bryce]

this is coming along nicely John.

[Throttle]

Good Stuff working with your son..

[Flash68]

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Great project John. At first glance and before I saw yours is a 72, I coulda swore you found and bought my old 74 Nova from high school!!!

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[johnny68]

boy your not kidding damn near same car
john

[johnny68]

Well havent updated in a while so heres the latest i found out today that blake has the rear end and all the rear suspension ready to go and i will have at the end of feb when we attend rttc i also got the master and booster from vinney (overzelous1) thanks vinney should work out good the tubs and all the welding hasnt gone as quick as i had hoped but it is getting done tubs are 95% finished then to do the firewall and get the car on the ground and put the front end in and start the sub connectors and raise the tunnel 4" then mock up the rear sus. Thanks to all the guys who ive gotten all my parts from
john

[killer69]

You have a good list of stuff to get done buy the end of Feb whe your Torque arm arrives, Special Delivery!!

looking good

you had mentioned you were goin to undercoat the car, may I suggest you use Truck Box Liner instead. it is much tougher and just as easy to apply the Proform Brand is a single part open the can a spray it on and it is totally paintable and a gallon will do the entire underside and inside the trunk.

[johnny68]

thanks blake for advise will do truck box liner hope i dont bug to much at rttc lol you will have to let me under that car of yours for pics oh and to clean the drool off of course
john

[johnny68]

well havent done much but get parts so heres what we have got lately 90's iroc box, kore 3 rear c5 disc brake set up from tobin thanks bud will post pic of brakes when on the rear end, and the best part is speed techs torque arm set up with about a 7 inch narrowed 9 inch 350 gear rear end and ride tech coilovers they will be in in a week or so we picked up the stuff from Blake at rttc and it went straight to powdercoaters and will be mocking up over the weekend and hopefully taking body of rotisserie also to put front end on to install the dse connectors then back on rotisserie to undercoat
john
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[RicerwannaB]

Awesome project man! Looking forward to seeing some updates!

[Bryce]

Awesome, That rear suspension looks great!

[coolwelder62]

VERY NICE.This is going to be a great ride.Scott M.

[johnny68]

took the car outside today and ended up rolling it
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of course to do some work on it tacked up the speedtech shock/panard bar mount just waiting for parts my shocks and some other stuff so i can finish mocking up rear sus.https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif
also cut out back seat panel to make a solid new one
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[johnny68]

also cut out some rust and filled old shifter hole
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[johnny68]

well jake and i have been waiting for this day for a while we finally took the car off the rotiserrie to align the subframe and get it ready for the connectors we have already aligned it and will put the rear end in during the week now i need to find some rollers to move the car around
john
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[TheBandit]

Looking good. Are you using short subframe bushings? Did you put the ~1/2" spacer in at the firewall location?

[Jasons72]

That's really starting to come together, looking good!

[johnny68]

thanks clint i have half height global west mounts and the spacer installed

thanks jason its coming slowly but surely
john

[johnny68]

i need to give thanks to jay,Blake,Roger and all the SPEED TECH gang and Tobin at Kore 3 for putting up with my worries/??? that turned out to be nothing they are top notch and anyone thinking of gettin a torque arm set up or suspension and disc brakes should call them
got the car on its old wheels will have the ride techs on monday but its ready for the sub frame connectors hopefully work on that sunday. the rear will come up a little i just have some tubing in place of coilovers you can really see how 6 1/2 in. outta the rear looks compared to the first postings thinking its off to Jons/Jason at Drivers inc end of april for wheels
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[Chevrolaine]

Great project! Enjoying this one!

[johnny68]

Great project! Enjoying this one!

thanks Laine

[Motown 454]

John the car's looking great nice job on the front subframe, and the torque arm set up looks really stout. The car should do some nice handling for sure.

[johnny68]

thanks wayne ya the torque arm is a great product Blake and the guys did a great job

[Tucks69]

Cool build John!! You said in my build thread you were thinking about Rushforth wheels. Which ones you planning on installing?

[tommycomfort]

An absolutely great father and son project. Looks like you guys are really doing it right!
Tom

[johnny68]

hey mike im likeing the new black widow's brushed with maybe titanium centers or silver center the car will be a cyber grey/gun metal something along those lines
john

[johnny68]

well got the ridetech coilovers today will put them on tomorrow they are sooo sweet thanks blake
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[bg5512]

Great build! Interested in how the torque arm handles.

[johnny68]

Great build! Interested in how the torque arm handles.

go to speed tech site he has a bunch of videos i believe hes been in the top 5 in every event and winning rttc in the road coarse

[killer69]

hahahah first set of pics i have seen of our Torque arm sitting in someones living room!!! LOVE IT

looking good John,
did you get the bottom box lined?

[johnny68]

did you get the bottom box lined?[/QUOTE]

ya Blake when i first did it it had a lot of droop and panard wasnt on jay said to jack up rear to ride height and put panard in i did it and pulled everything into perfect alignment i worried for no reason ive got everything just finger tight i still need to tear it apart to undercoat thanks again Blake for everything hope this gets some torque arm bus. for ya
john

[johnny68]

well not a nova update but had lots of fun with the 55 at good guys i wasnt going to run ,,but Wes one of the editors of classic trucks mag. egged me on and i went for it. ok first let me say its no way a auto x car 280 open gears cushy soft front end and leaves out back my first ever run was a 41 sec.then the second run was a 40 sec. so i improved 1 whole sec my goal was to try and better the 6 banger 4 door mopar whice had a total cool factor actually im not sure if i did or not heres some pictures thanks to Bryce oh one other thing i dont think i hit any cones
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[johnny68]

well not much of an update but started raising the tunnel and building the backseat firewall
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[strtlegal]

Hahaha Johnny..I remember talking with you about all of the goodies that are out there, but I do remember you talking about just running a normal spring. What happened?

[johnny68]

its all your fault chuck you said give blake a call hes a great guy which he and you are so whats the deal with your car i hear its red (red barron?) pics bud pics oh its still sandys car
john

[strtlegal]

Ha yep its Red all right...

[johnny68]

heres an update on the tunnel and i went to a show today and noticed this really clean nova with nissan peuter and a zz4 more of a show car guy bought it for 40k a few months ago very nice
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[Motown 454]

The tunnel looks great you did a nice job on it.

[jschaecher]

nice work its always good to see more nova's!

[johnny68]

thanks wayne and jschaecher oh and welcome fellow nova guy (put name at bottom so we know you bud)
john

[maldo]

wow nice built up

[johnny68]

hey everyone got some pictures for you folks the rear seat and tunnel are done next ill put motor in to measure for driveshaft
john
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[johnny68]

Jake and i put the motor and trans in along with the front sheemetal to get ready to go up to (Jons driverz inc) and look at wheels and pick up the wiring Sandy and Jake are going to pick them (either Rushforths black widow or maybe Budnik cannons) or who knows
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[Tucks69]

Looking Good!

[strtlegal]

Bitchen stuff.....

[johnny68]

Bitchen stuff.....

thank you chuck your car is also amazing looking cant wait to see it finished i hope i dont have a problem with my front end height may be a little hi will prolly have to lift up rear a tad i tried to mimick blakes car in back from pictures it took of his at rttc
john

[johnny68]

Looking Good!
thank you Mike

[Blown73]

Hey John -

Car looks great! What did you use to roll the beads into the rear seat sheet metal? That looks really nice!

[johnny68]

Hey John -

Car looks great! What did you use to roll the beads into the rear seat sheet metal? That looks really nice!
Thank you very much,,my buddy kevin at Mickeys metal craft did it he does metal fab and has all that cool stuff he also did all my aluminum work on the interior of the 55 f100

[johnny68]

well Sandy and i took a little drive up the 15 and happened to swing by Jon and Justins Driverz inc and Sandy and Jon did all the talking actually i didnt want to get involved its all on her (love ya honey)and we ended up with a set of wheels all you folks will have to wait about 2 months and Jon will post pictures when they come in i cant wait, Jon and Justin and the crew were all great to deal with they were the best ,,actually Justin showed up just in time for lunch.

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[killer69]

John
Looks like it is comming along well.
so what size wheels did you go with, since it sounds like your not going to tell us what style!!

[johnny68]

John
Looks like it is comming along well.
so what size wheels did you go with, since it sounds like your not going to tell us what style!!

ok the size only 18x11 and 18x8 ,,Jake didnt go with us just sandy and i so we dont want to tell him what we got Sandy ended up changing her mind while we where there thanks to jons greast advise,,, next we have to tear it back apart and finish welding shock bracket do connectors and then undercoat it

p.s. look in my signature

[Bryce]

I was curious what you were going to get! good choice!

[ssmike]

I know, I know! Can't wait to see them.....

[Nessumsar]

Really nice to see it coming together John. I like the rolled interior panels, nice touch.

[DriverzInc]

Thanks for posting those photos John, and for the compliments. Blake, we're running an 18x11 with hardly any backspace at all as I measured his total tub space as 15.25"!

I totally talked Sandy into seeing the wheels from my point of view, and I think all of you will like the end result ;)

[esenior]

Thats a nice looking Nova John. Can't wait to see it out on the road. Was great meeting you and the wife today at the lakes...and congratulations for taking home the trophy!

---Eric

[johnny68]

thank you Eric we will have to make sure we get together for shows dinner cruise i thought for sure your wife would have won thanks again
john
Thats a nice looking Nova John. Can't wait to see it out on the road. Was great meeting you and the wife today at the lakes...and congratulations for taking home the trophy!

---Eric

[johnny68]

well it been a bit so here an update the car is back at kevins the metal fab guy. hes building a rear spoiler not for me but for Jon at DriverzInc my car is the mock up for Jons nova which is outta state getting worked on so i offered our car for the mock up. but i have been buying parts found an aluminum nascar radiator for a great price im hopeing it'll work it should. i also found a march ultra serpentine system (sorry MIke) for backing out of your compressor here some pictures of it
john HEY WHO EVER NEEDS AN AC COMPRESSOR GIVE SSMIKE A PM HE HAS ONE FOR A GREAT DEAL

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[Ron.in.SoCal]

^ Looks slick John!

[John Wright]

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BLING!.....nice and shiny!

[johnny68]

this is the only part of the car that will be shiny EVERYTHING else is painted or powder i just pass the deal up and have allways wanted this type of system
thanks for the good words guys
john

[Motown 454]

John you guys are doing an excellent job on the car, its coming along nice. That March set up will look great in there. I can't wait to see the wheels you picked out.

[johnny68]

ok the wheels are rushforth night trains matte black outers with gun metal centers with polished hardware
18x8 245/40/18 fronts
and 18x11 either 315/30/18 or 295/45/18 in rear
really want the width of the 315 but also want the height of the 295/45 which do we choose need your help guys
this will be a daily driver for sandy my wife
thanks
john

[johnny68]

i talked to Jon today and he mentioned Jason was finished with our wheels and im going to pick them up on the 24th he also said when he had them he will post pictures cant wait kevin should be done with jons spoiler late next weekso ill get the car back and the wheels looking foward to it
john

[SuperCobra4Me]

Subscribed !

cool project and cars John !

Hope to see it in person one day, I also live in Alpine and one of my cars is a 1970 Nova, I used to have 3 Novas at one point back in the early 90s, wish I would have kept them all.

[johnny68]

hey sergio thanks for the kudos we'll have to do alpine brewery or freds
john

[ryfrat]

How are you making out with your wheels?

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[johnny68]

im hopeing to hear something from Jason or Jon soon . its all good tho they should be posting pictures when they get them then ill go up and pick them up
john
How are you making out with your wheels?

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[LeighP]

If the car is a regular driver, I'd go for the higher profile, whichever width.
Roads are just too average to risk expensive wheels everyday with really low profile tyres.

[64impala]

Great progress!! I wish my old man was involved with my builds over the years.....but you guys are building a great car. Its a great learning experience and your skills will improve as you futher your build. As fustrating it can be to build a whole car, one of the many things I learned is patience, and its all worth it! Congrats and good luck. Nate

[ryfrat]

Did you get your wheels on yet?

[Timothye]

Wow. Great work man. You put a lot of efforts on it. Now it's looking awesome. I like this.

[johnny68]

Wow. Great work man. You put a lot of efforts on it. Now it's looking awesome. I like this.
thanks for the words cant wait to get it further along

the wheels are held up a bit they need to get widened but the cars not ready yet anyway so its cool
john

[johnny68]

well its been 2 months since ive had the chance to work on the nova but we got the sub frame connectors 90% welded in today and will be finishing up any little welding thats left then i will be undercoating the bottom and final bolt in all the suspension and ship it off to the body shop for paint (dont worry we did most of the welding will car was on the wooden wheel stands then put it on the rotisserie)
john
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[mbheinz]

It's good that John finally got his fix today by working on the Nova. He was really starting to get grumpy, mopey and just dragging his feet around. The Nova is looking good and will definately get done before mine will. Don't let all of his talk about the March Pulley System being the only bling he will put on his car. I have seen him at shows and he is a closet blinger. His show truck is as bling as it gets. Now that I have ruffled his feathers I'll see if he will let me use his lift and help me on my wifes car.

[Bryce]

you are getting closer John.

[EXTREME NOVA]

Very nice build!! Can't wait to see pics of it complete!

[scherp69]

Looking good John.

[johnny68]

the sub frame conectors are in and ive taped everything for epoxy primer and raptor undercoating, i also dont like the way the firewall came out so i got dse firewall panel that will be next after cars on its wheels again, speaking of wheels i should be getting a picture from Jason of our wheels cant wait
john

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[TheBandit]

Looks great John! What color are you painting it? I love the Night Trains. Those are going to look great. Why not a 255 up front?

[johnny68]

thanks Clint the color will be a lexus grey or a pepper grey somesort of a darker grey as far as the tires im hoping the 245s dont rub 255 might be pushing it i think sub frames stock with speed tech arms.
john

[johnny68]

Jason gave me a sneek peek at the wheel well half of it at least
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[Hotwhilz]

Nice wheels, shouldn't rub any !
Can't wait to see them on there!

[John Wright]

Jason gave me a sneek peek at the wheel


That rim looks a bit ...ah...narrow. LOL

[bonecrrusher]

Those rims are awesome - remind me of Jeremy Clarkson's train car from last week...

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[johnny68]

well we epoxy primed the bottom and then seam sealed it and lastly added Raptor undercoating to it next we'll take it off the rotisserie for the last time and put the rear suspension on for the last time.
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[Bryce]

looking good!

[johnny68]

hey thanks bryce looking foward to seeing your falcon
john

[johnny68]

hey guys i have to give big KUDOS to Jon Justin and Jason for all the help Jon put my wheels on the wheel section but heres a picture or 2
John
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[Josue]

GOOD choice!!!

[LowFast]

Those wheels are just NASTY! Should look great on the car.

[torino420]

Wow, great project...those wheels are going to look sick on that car.

[Bryce]

John, the wheels look great.

Only one problem.......They have a chevy bolt pattern. AHAHA

[johnny68]

ya but it has a ford rear end
i cant keep it straight ive got a chevy with a ford rear and a ford with a chevy motor, tranny, power steering ,alt. oh and a plymouth front suspension im so confused

john

[johnny68]

thanks everyone for the compliments:cool:

[Bryce]

ya but it has a ford rear end
i cant keep it straight ive got a chevy with a ford rear and a ford with a chevy motor, tranny, power steering ,alt. oh and a plymouth front suspension im so confused

john


Haha, you are all messed up! See ya in a week.

Bring ones of those nice wheels with you.

[fencepost]

Don't feel bad my Nova will soon have a Ford rear and Ford bolt pattern all around.

[Anchor]

I'm in love with them wheels John!

[Motown 454]

John the wheels look killer! Nice progress on the bottom.

[Fesler built]

Project is coming along nice, you guys are doing a great job on it.

[johnny68]

hey would like to say thanks to everyone for the compliments it means a lot beings im just an average garage guy on a budget
john

[johnny68]

first off we /I can not express the graditude to John and Justin at DriverzInc for the color choice and all the help and advise for the tire size and the lugs they have a life long customer and friend,, Sandy and I went to pick up the wheels today and boy was i happy al lthough the first thing i saw was Justins camaro i beelined straight for that to see the monster motor and thought wait a minute forget this wheres our wheels i walked right past them to Justins car (too much to take in at once) wheni saw the wheels i was floored they look great couldnt be happier damn near to nice to be driven on, thanks you guys dont know what to say
john

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[SuperCobra4Me]

Looking Great John !

Love the wheels !

[johnny68]

Thanks You when we going to hook up ? theres a show in apline at the community center on sep.17th look for the blue 55 f100
John

[craigs73]

john that car looks killer with the wheels and will look better grey very nice wheel choice your wife made

[johnny68]

thanks guys have a little update no one seemed very happy with the firewall including me, everyone said what are going to do with the firewall . so i decided to have kevin do his magic (BY THE WAY I HAVE A DSE FIREWALL PLATE FOR SALE NEW OF COURSE)
john
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[craigs73]

looks good john i like the indent for the motor/tranny

[Motown 454]

Very Nice!

[Pro-Mo]

Just read all seven pages. Love the project and look forward to seeing more.

By the way, GREAT choice in wheels.

[Driver X]

Looks Great John, Really like-in this build - Killer Wheels - You Guys are making great progress :cheers:

[johnny68]

well have a small update . we went to the junk yard today mostly looking for seats or ??..the first row i went down saw a 74 pontiac with the doors so i got them they are stripped but for $80 couldnt pass them up. went to the 2nd yard and found a 80 camaro bullet mirror drivers side for $11 then went to the last yard and in the last row another 74 pontiac omega with complete perfect doors no dent all there so i had to have them , got them for $85 so now we're going to have one piece windows and the best part ive already sold the first set i bought i also sprayed raptor all over the interior and mocked up the nascar radiator (wich was at datona on 02/08 as far as inspection tag says) i needed to make the opening just a tad
John

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[Motown 454]

Nice find on the doors you made there John. Nice job on the raptor, how is it to spray? Looking Good.

[johnny68]

the raptor is very easy wayne ive never used it before this project but will on all my others amazon has the best prices ass far as the doors i scored
john
Nice find on the doors you made there John. Nice job on the raptor, how is it to spray? Looking Good.

[hookemdevils22]

wow, this is exactly what i was looking for! i was planning to run the night trains (although in smoked titanium) on my '71, which is almost exactly the same color (http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m235/hookemdevils22/Nova%20Pics/b91c51cc.jpg) as your '72. thanks for solidifying my resolve to get those bad boys, and the build looks pretty wicked.

[johnny68]

Thanks i see your in az you going to run to the sun in havasu 3rd week in oct. also theres a gentleman his hname is chuck with a slick nova who lives in surprise az goes by strtlegal here and on steves nova site
john

[Hotwhilz]

Update looking good John, the wheels are hot so does the firewall, I was going to do the firewall also, but once all the ail filter assembly, reinforcement bars in, it just leave a little strip that need attention. keep wrenching Buddy

Ben

[craigs73]

hey john i have a question.... the hole in the firewall where the fender bolts to. how you going to keep water from getting between the outter metal layer that you put on for the smooth look and the actual firewall? sorry was just a thought dont want you to run into any problems on down the road

[johnny68]

hey Craig i seam sealed every weld/seam that we messed with inside and out also i sprayed rhino bed liner on the inside of the entire car paying attention to all the seams giving it a goood coat im thinking that will be enough definately more than factory did thanks for the concern keep it coming we can always learn from all you guys
john
hey john i have a question.... the hole in the firewall where the fender bolts to. how you going to keep water from getting between the outter metal layer that you put on for the smooth look and the actual firewall? sorry was just a thought dont want you to run into any problems on down the road

[craigs73]

ok so in the pic it shows 8 spot welds around it did you weld on the inside edge of the "half moon" shape... sorry dont take this the wrong way i was thinking about this and came across the pic and was wondering sorry again lol

[hookemdevils22]

Thanks i see your in az you going to run to the sun in havasu 3rd week in oct. also theres a gentleman his hname is chuck with a slick nova who lives in surprise az goes by strtlegal here and on steves nova site
john

I will be in Anniston, AL, on business the 3rd week of October, unfortunately. I've talked to Chuck a few times - he actually offered to let me do a test fit of some 18s he had when I was running drop spindles and looking for wheel/tire ideas (I've since wisely sold them). We haven't actually met yet, since I've spent too much time working on the car and almost none driving it.

[johnny68]

well its time to bring the car to the body shop im hopeing to have it back in jan. we'll see. the color is going to be lexus smokey granite mica with all the chrome,stainless matte/semi black
john
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[HotRod47]

Great project!!

[Bryce]

John,

I like the tow rig!

[johnny68]

ok any guesses on how much the paint will be they will be stripping to bare metal fixing rust satin black door frames firewall fender wells all the norm.lets hear the guesses they have 3 vettes and a elco all full paint jobs
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[csouth]

Love this build! I was wondering who's wheels those were in the wheel\tire forum. Great to see a father\son project turn out so nice. I'm looking forward to January now...LOL

[LSxChevelle]

ok any guesses on how much the paint will be they will be stripping to bare metal fixing rust satin black door frames firewall fender wells all the norm.lets here the guesses they have 3 vettes and a elco all full paint

$9k

[johnny68]

they are Jason Rushforths night train wheels thanks for the compliments
john
Love this build! I was wondering who's wheels those were in the wheel\tire forum. Great to see a father\son project turn out so nice. I'm looking forward to January now...LOL

[csouth]

I was wondering what project they were attached too. I'm ordering some for my project too...

[darkgable79]

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[hookemdevils22]

i for one am glad you're going with grey... wouldn't want anyone copying my 'yellow nova w/ nighttrains' idea ;)

[johnny68]

swung by daltons to peek at the car they have stripped the passenger side trunk and roof so far no surprises didnt think there would be beings it a cali car its whole life
john
oh i never answered how much well its $4500 out the door ,,down to metal and weld all holes and new metal in what tiny rust there is and for those who say its a cheap crappy job our 55 f100 was the dec.cover of classic trucks numerous best of show and still is there monthly advertising truck
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[TheBandit]

Sounds like a great deal on paint. The wheels look incredible - I'm in love. Nicely tucked out back. Can't wait to see it come out of paint.

[FRENCHBLUE72]

Wheels look incredible cant wait to see the car with some paint on her..

[ryeguy2006a]

That is the same color combo that I am working towards. Nice project.

[johnny68]

thanks for all the compliments no real updates the guys are doing the body work will take update pictures when the car looks better. should be ordering the vintage air and aaw wiring in a couple weeks
john

[esenior]

Hey Johnny, any pictures with some color yet?

[johnny68]

not yet Eric ill post pictures when there is some progress
john

[johnny68]

well the cars is in first primer soon it gets torn back a part and worked some more il have it back in jan.
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[Bryce]

Good news John! Merry Christmas bud.

[sick63nova]

want a great build, so cool that its a father son build, im 23 an when i was in middle school my dad, brother an i built our first car (69 ss chevelle) together. now my dad regrets it because we still have the chevelle an my brother has another chevelle (lt1chevelle) an i have my 63 nova an a 71 chevy c-10
keep up the good work, the rims are just badass!!

[johnny68]

thanks for all the compliments will be getting car back home on friday than start putter her all togeather
john

[67 ls1 vert]

thats great news Johnny. Sounds like you'll be busy soon.

[johnny68]

well i picked up the car today the door pillars and all the molding firewall,dash,engine compartment, and tail light panel are all matte black the car is smokey granite mica a 2011 lexus color it still need to be cut and buffed and wet sanded now to put it all togeather oh joy
john
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[craigs73]

Looking good!!! The matte black will look good with that color

[johnny68]

shoot craig its really hard to tell the difference between the black and grey other than the metallic im happy with it it does have a green hugh i didnt notice on the lexus im not to sure about it yet but it is what it is
john

[scherp69]

That looks great John. It makes me want to head out to the shop and work on mine (if I didn't have the flu that is). Keep the pics coming.

[brownz]

Very nice!!!!

[johnny68]

i think im thinking to much about the assembly not sure on where to start i want to get it under its own power first off so my plan is to plumb to brakes first then wiring and battery in trunk, finish up all the bottom of the car and then put the motor trans in it radiator then exterior pieces bumpers etc not putting on handles or mirror till buffed out then start on the interior goal is mothers day to be finished i should be able to finish well before that but just incase
john

[coolwelder62]

Look's Totally Aweomse.Love the color.

[Motown 454]

It looks great John. I'm with you on wondering the best place to start on putting it back together.

[lt1chevelle]

who did the body and paint looks nice!!

[johnny68]

thanks everyone for the compliments ,,a shop in santee ca. named Dalton and son auto body they did the 55 3 years ago made cover of magazines and best of shows so had to use them for this project
john

[csouth]

I couldn't wait to see how this would turn out. Definitely well worth it...

[johnny68]

thanks chris glad to see your cutlass coming along

[Flash68]

Those wheels are gonna be hot with that paint!

[67 ls1 vert]

get cracking John.... get that wiring going. Looking forward to seeing it. I may have missed it but is it tubed or mini tubed? Your rollers look way in there compared to the way mine looks with the stockers on it.

[johnny68]

Hey Pat the rear has been narrowed i believe 7" with dse mini tubs and an 18x11 with close to a 4 1/2"bs

john

[lt1chevelle]

wish i could find a shop around here to do body and paint for that price! once again killer lookin car!

[Hotwhilz]

The colorr is sweet! THe wheels will definitly set it off, nice car already! Get busy !!

[Bryce]

looks awesome! I cant wait till you drive it over to my house. Let me know if you need an extra hand.

[Tucks69]

Looking Good! Can't wait to see it with the wheels and sitting at ride height!

[johnny68]

thanks guys ive got the firewall dynamated the fuse block in trunk wires run and the va evap. almosted mounted i have to make custom brackets due to the smooth firewall its funny sandy wants me to stay in garage till more is done
john

[johnny68]

well been in the garage till 1030 evry night usually start at 8 pm. i told sandy i wouldnt touch the car friday night i was all hers, somebody decided to drive through a power pole which in turn broke 2 other poles friday afternoon i ended up starting work friday at 930am and getting off sat. at 1130 am (soorry honey) heres some progress
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[csouth]

Coming together nicely. What brand wiring harness did you use, also are those Nite Trains 3 piece?

[johnny68]

hey Cris we used american auto wire for the stock upgraded nova harness and just did a 2 piece wheel thanks for the compliment
john

[csouth]

hey Cris we used american auto wire for the stock upgraded nova harness and just did a 2 piece wheel thanks for the compliment
john

Thanks for the insite. Seems AAW is a popular choice for those kits. PM'd u a question too...

[sick63nova]

dam she is turning out nice, nice color combo on the body an wheels should look sweet!

[Protournova]

Looking good... can't wait to see everything together!!

[johnny68]

thanks guys i appreciate it all
john

[SuperCobra4Me]

Looking Great John !
what AAW kit did you use?

if you need any help let me know, I can lend a hand especially during the weekends when I am off work, so sorry we haven't been able to meet, life is hectic sometimes and gets in the way of play time. I did get to see your truck at the Alpine Car show but I couldn't find you that day.

[esenior]

John, the car looks awesome...Can't wait to see it in person! Got Kevin's car just about wrapped up so let me know if you need any help with anything, even if it's just an excuse to drop by and check her out. :)

[johnny68]

thanks guys will do ,,this week its about the brake line runs
sergio the aaw kit part # 500878 it was $483 and made for the nova i believe i got it off ebay
john

[johnny68]

well im in the middle of doing the brake lines and decided to pull the wheels and make sure of the placement for the hose to line bracket when i basically found out what a heart attack may feel like found out the caliper hits the coil ( help blake or tobin) any suggestions would be great im thinking ill have to change the calipers my set up is exactly what blakes nove is but different rear brakes, Im thinking maybe have a bracket made that moves the coilovers over they are at a slight angle now move them straight up and down and that would work any ideas would help
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[Bryce]

Bummer John, I can always draw up a bracket for you if you need any machining done.

[johnny68]

bryce your the man i owe you big
john

[esenior]

John, had a similar problem with my Camaro which is why I ended up swapping the Baer brakes for Wilwood with a separate park brake. I think Bryce has the right idea...if you can't build a new bracket to re-clock your caliper into a different position (perhaps in front of the wheel), then perhaps you can move the coil overs in board slightly.

[johnny68]

ya eric bryce is going to make up some brackets to move the lower shocke mount over 1 1/2 aqnd that will fix issue, whats up with the camaro has jba been doing it to it? in the mean time i bent up the brake lines installed the dash and pad nothing fancy its a daily driver not a show car, and did some under dash wiring (an eighth of your wiring eric)
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[Bryce]

John can you measure the outside dimensions of the stock bracket?

[85coupe50]

Great build. Hope you get the rear brake issue figured out.

[johnny68]

well havent done much tonight on the car but was bored so i rolled out the wheels
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[csouth]

John, this looks better everytime you post....

[johnny68]

thanks chris

[craigs73]

john did you make up the bracket for the prop valve? also any info on the brake line you used? price?

[go-fish]

Looks great but you need to get yourself a block under the car in case those jack stands fail. At least something taller than you chest cavity.

BTW, you're making me really jealous, LOL.

[johnny68]

hey craig i got most all my brake stuff from tobin at Kore 3 the line is a copper/nickle blend that is very popular in europe and farely new in the statesfrom what i hear , theres no real draw backs to it water doesnt effect it and its sooo much easier than stainless ( i rebent the same bend 5 times on same piece) really like it,, the valve bracket i also got from Tobin, the bracket was i believe $20 and a roll of 25 foot line was $50 i had a couple feet left over so make sure to get your measurements right and 1 roll will do it, tobin also has all the fittings one thing about the fittings tho the threads didnt go all the way to the edge so in reality only about 2 threads gripped the female fittings which i didnt like try and get fittings with threads the whole way down with no shoulder
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john did you make up the bracket for the prop valve? also any info on the brake line you used? price?

[johnny68]

Looks great but you need to get yourself a block under the car in case those jack stands fail. At least something taller than you chest cavity.

BTW, you're making me really jealous, LOL.

thanks bro ill put the wood blocks under rotors (no trust in harbor freight?)

[craigs73]

hey craig i got most all my brake stuff from tobin at Kore 3 the line is a copper/nickle blend that is very popular in europe and farely new in the statesfrom what i hear , theres no real draw backs to it water doesnt effect it and its sooo much easier than stainless ( i rebent the same bend 5 times on same piece) really like it,, the valve bracket i also got from Tobin, the bracket was i believe $20 and a roll of 25 foot line was $50 i had a couple feet left over so make sure to get your measurements right and 1 roll will do it, tobin also has all the fittings one thing about the fittings tho the threads didnt go all the way to the edge so in reality only about 2 threads gripped the female fittings which i didnt like try and get fittings with threads the whole way down with no shoulder
john

thankys johnny!!! do you have any pics of how you routed the lines? also how easy is it to get the lines looking straight since its rolled?

[zipsimons]

Is the code on that color 1GO? Thats what i'm using but leaving out the green and violet pearls. Very very cool project!

[johnny68]

Is the code on that color 1GO? Thats what i'm using but leaving out the green and violet pearls. Very very cool project!

yes it is good luck with your build looking foward to see it finished

[johnny68]

thankys johnny!!! do you have any pics of how you routed the lines? also how easy is it to get the lines looking straight since its rolled?

craig forgot to mention all i did was roll the tubing out in the living room. its nothing like stainless it may not be arrow straight but good enough for a daily driver you'll like the stuff
john

[craigs73]

john thanks for the pics one question where did you get all your little brackets and etc from tobin?

[johnny68]

thanks Bryce for eveything we made some brackets to move the coilovers over a bit for caliper clearence, and weve put the gas tank in it the headliner and carpet and both bumpers and undercoated the trunk i should be putting the motor and tranny in next weekend
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[dmc69]

Wheels+Paint= SICK!!!

[johnny68]

thank my wife Sandy for that she came up with all the colors it will be daily driver
thanks dmc

[zipsimons]

yes it is good luck with your build looking foward to see it finished

I've looked at hundreds of greys in the past couple weeks! Going with a different one now! Lol... Can't wait to see yours finished as well.. Awesome build!

[csouth]

thank my wife Sandy for that she came up with all the colors it will be daily driver
thanks dmc

Had no idea you guys were going to daily this car, that makes this build even better!

[go-fish]

Everything is looking great John. Sorry I've been so elusive on the phone. Pregnant wife, coaching softball and going to school is running me ragged. Poor me, I have no man cave to retire to. LOL

[Bryce]

Pregnant wife

Congrats Johnny!

[67 ls1 vert]

yeah Johnny, congrats on the little mopar fan. I didnt know. Hope you and your wife are doing good.

Pat

[esenior]

Hey Johnny, car is looking great! You need any help stabbing that engine and trans in this weekend? Just let me know when to be there!

[Motown 454]

John the car looks great, definetely moving right a long. Nice job on the lines.

[johnny68]

thanks everyone for the compliments and help ive been working a bunch on the car got it looking a tad better , sandy is on me big time to get it running since she has seen it with the wheels and motor in it (headers are being changed they hang down way to low) so heres what i started with aug of 2010 and here she is today
john
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[Bryce]

looks freaking sweet!

[Bryce]

You get garage parking the next time you come over!

[johnny68]

You get garage parking the next time you come over!
ill leave room for matt

[Motown 454]

It looks great John. I love the way the back wheels are tucked in there. SWEET!

[sr73bu]

That looks completely bad ass John!!! the rims look killer!

-Sean

[johnny68]

That looks completely bad ass John!!! the rims look killer!

-Sean

thanks Sean for the compliment

[johnny68]

you can thank my wife sandy and jon from new gen for that thank again for the compliment
It looks great John. I love the way the back wheels are tucked in there. SWEET!

[zipsimons]

almost makes ya want to leave all the front end accesories out with how good those pulleys look peekin through! lol... lovin it!

[go-fish]

Real nice!

[Hotwhilz]

Good combo, the stance should be nice once the front settle a bit! Hurry to finish!

[johnny68]

almost makes ya want to leave all the front end accesories out with how good those pulleys look peekin through! lol... lovin it!

wait till you see the radiator you wont even notice the pulleys its ginormous its out of a cup car and track certified on/for 02/08 daytona ebay deal
john

[johnny68]

Good combo, the stance should be nice once the front settle a bit! Hurry to finish!

ya hopefully once radaitor and bumper are on it'll settle just a tad or i'll lift the back up a bit ya know for Sandy to haul groceries
john

[FRENCHBLUE72]

Car is awesome those wheels and color really do the body lines justice..

[sixfivepost]

Spot on!

[bonecrrusher]

Love the colors!

[johnny68]

thanks every one for the compliments, ive been working 10 hours a day then coming home and working on the car for 3-4 hours and making some progress im hopeing to have sandy start it next sunday maybe just need to make up battery cables and make hoses for the radiator, ive made the plug wires plumbed the tranny and ac, also hooked up the gauges and placed the front wheel wells its all coming togeather
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[craigs73]

is that some type of nascar radiator? i seen it says daytona on it

[johnny68]

is that some type of nascar radiator? i seen it says daytona on it
thats my $75 c&r radiator from a nascar team thats certed for the 08 dayton race told ya it was big
john

[craigs73]

sweet you score that on ebay?

[FRENCHBLUE72]

Radiator looks sweet that electric fan however needs some help..

[CruizinKev]

WOW LOOKS GREAT!!! love the color and the wheels! just sick!! :twothumbs

[wvnova]

car looks great. i looked through the thread what size are the back wheels/tire combo?

[214Chevy]

Love the color scheme with the wheels. Nicely done!!

[johnny68]

well its been a while but today is the first day i actually drove the for about 15 miles and it did great the bilstein shocks rub a tad on the subframe hole but other than that it handles like a sklot car and brakes great now to do the finall alignment and finish wireing headlights blinkers and mount ac vents and do interior
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[scherp69]

That's awesome John. Congrats. Car looks great!!

[johnny68]

thanks Mike really appreciate the words
next i have to put the wiper motor and washer deal together thanks again for those parts
john

[CruizinKev]

oh sweet!!! looks great! good jobs guys! :cheers:

[Hotwhilz]

Super nice car John! Did some good work to it! Nice! Looks like mine will be about the same color as well! Nice ride for sure!

Ben

[LeighP]

Wow...great looking ride...so mean!