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Hey Guys,
I've been doing lots of bench racing and decision making in the last few weeks and I am wondering out loud...what is stopping you? I mean, what brake set ups are you using? Baer? Willwood? C5/C6? stock? I am also interested to see as to why you made that choice.
GenPac
05-19-2010, 03:06 PM
C5/C6 brakes all around.
Reasons: Wear items easily found at most part houses. They look damn good in natural aluminum finish without the 'vette logo. Integral parking brake drum in hat made for a clean installation and no-brainer effective parking brake.
Yelcamino
05-19-2010, 05:12 PM
I have the Baer GT+ front and Touring rear set up on both cars. They're essentially C5/6 front brakes and C4 rear brakes. So far they've worked flawlessly with the hydroboost. However, I discovered I need a more agressive pad compound for road course work.
rrunner68
05-19-2010, 05:37 PM
Wilwood discs all 4 corners.
68firebird
05-19-2010, 05:55 PM
I'm in the process of putting them on, but it will be LS1, at least in the fronts for now. I'm on a budget build, so I was looking into some inexpensive front disc kits, but I decided to go with the LS1 because of the dual piston caliper over the single piston on alot of the cheaper kits. I could have gone with the C5/6 setup, but I was trying to stay away from getting new rims right now, but in the end I need to pick up some rims and tires anyway, The LS1 and Corvette brakes are both huge. what I like is I can just go to an autoparts store and buy parts for it pretty easily.
shopking68
05-19-2010, 06:04 PM
SSBC Force 10 on the fronts and will have Wilwoods on the rear.
ErikLS2
05-20-2010, 08:48 AM
C6 Z06 front and rear. Big, looks good, parts availability for A LONG time, good parking brake.
dipren443
05-20-2010, 09:19 AM
I will be running a combination of Wilwood and OEM.
Fronts will be Wilwood 6 piston Superlites.
I am currently running LS1 Camaro rear brakes. I am going to adapt a Wilwood caliper to the existing mounting bracket. If anyone is interested in brackets to mount a Wilwood caliper to LS1 Camaro rears (keeping the OE drum in hat parking brake), keep your eyes peeled. I will be working on this soon.
John Wright
05-20-2010, 09:37 AM
Stock C5 stuff at all four corners w/ working ebrake.
gearheads78
05-20-2010, 09:43 AM
C6 front /LS1 rear Inexpensive looks and functions great. Easy to find parts anywhere.
jknight16
05-20-2010, 01:05 PM
C5-Based BAER GT fronts, C5Z rears for me. Since I'm using the AFX spindles, a corvette based system made a lot of sense. The Baer versions of the corvette brakes aren't really any different, but I think they look better and they definitely come with better rotors.
I may buy a set of Baer Monoblock front calipers someday to replace the C5-based Baers, but that will depend on how many track days I do and if the current calipers don't prove to be up to the task. For a street car, the Baer GT stuff works really really well. I love the way my car brakes. I even go so far as to compare the performance and feel of my Camaro's brakes to the Porsches I've driven/owned. I use a 15/16" master and a vacuum booster. My car is a couple hundred pounds lighter than most, which probably helps too.
For the rear, I'm glad I went with a floating caliper, as the fixed calipers can have some pad knockback issues that are a real pain to fix. I'm fine with not having to fight those battles. I suppose this benefit applies to the fronts as well.
clu269
05-20-2010, 03:43 PM
Baer 6P front and rear
JustinB
05-20-2010, 03:52 PM
Wilwood W6A fronts and W4A rears
Nessumsar
05-20-2010, 04:05 PM
Have almost all of the parts for my C5 conversion. Why I went with them? Cheap.
The WidowMaker
05-20-2010, 05:15 PM
c6 z06. huge brakes, oem parts backing and they were seriously cheap for what they are. the only guys with complaints about them either complained when they were first new and there were no pad options, or they track their cars on a regular basis. and i dont mean autocross when i refer to tracking. i mean 20 lap sessions.
MCMLXIX
05-20-2010, 07:50 PM
C5/C6 brakes all around.
Reasons: Wear items easily found at most part houses. They look damn good in natural aluminum finish without the 'vette logo. Integral parking brake drum in hat made for a clean installation and no-brainer effective parking brake.
+1 - but for the rear I have LS1 brackets with C5 Calipers.
brans72
05-21-2010, 03:26 AM
C5 here cause you can find them easy,parts are easy to get a hold of and at the time c6 z06 brakes where not released. Just shave the Corvette Logo off in my book!
Samckitt
05-21-2010, 03:44 AM
Fronts are 13" C5 rotors & calipers, backs are 12" Vette rotors & calipers.
67 455 Bird ragtop
05-21-2010, 04:58 AM
Currently I have OEM single piston calipers all around. Caddy parking brake versions in the rear. Once my project is complete I'll probaly upgrade my fronts to the best I can use and still fit with my 15" Convo Pros.
2ndgenhunter
05-21-2010, 06:35 AM
I'm running LS1 brakes front and rear with aftermarket sloted rotors and hawks pads. The reason... I got everything done for 350.00 including rotors and hawks pads.
esenior
05-21-2010, 10:23 AM
I'm running Wilwood on all 4 corners:
Front - WIL-140-5770-BD
Rear - 140-5237-BD
Running C-Clip eliminators so couldn't go with the OEM (Parking brake in the hat)
Had originally purchased Baer, but had too many problems in the rear getting the caliper clocked properly with enough clearance for the parking brake.
Had talked to the people at SSBC, but found them rude and unhelpful.
gort69
05-21-2010, 01:40 PM
C6/C4 Hybrid fronts, to clear the wheels, SpeedTech brackets. LS1 rear w/functioning p-brake. Hydroboost w/1 1/8" MC.
C6/C4 Hybrid fronts, to clear the wheels, SpeedTech brackets. LS1 rear w/functioning p-brake. Hydroboost w/1 1/8" MC.
Hybrid as in C6 caliper and C4 rotor? what size wheel?
AustinClassic
05-24-2010, 06:45 AM
C6 Z06 Fronts and for now, undecided on the rears but limited since it's a C4 suspension.
gort69
05-24-2010, 06:33 PM
Hybrid as in C6 caliper and C4 rotor? what size wheel?
Correct. 17" American CL205. Same spoke pattern as TTII with powdercoated spokes. C5 rotors won't fit this wheel w/o a spacer.
Mingus
05-25-2010, 04:01 AM
C5/C6 from Kore3. Mostly because the brakes were cheap enough compared to Baers or Wilwoods to pay for most of my ATS AFX spindles. Ironically I had TTII's and had to buy another set of wheels to clear the 'Vette brakes which cost more than what I saved.
Ahh, the joys of modifying. :)
amargari
05-26-2010, 03:22 PM
Fronts are C5 and rears are LS1 Camaro brakes. Parts are available at ever parts store in the world.
woody80z28
05-28-2010, 12:40 PM
12" 1LE rotors up front with Wilwood calipers and 11.6" S10/Blazer rear disc w/ internal ebrake. Perfect for 15" wheels.
holschen
05-30-2010, 03:32 AM
missing the "other" option
using 15"brembo front 6 piston caliper
and 13,5"brembo rear 4 piston caliper
JRouche
05-31-2010, 03:39 PM
Wilwood 13" with forged superlite 4-pot calipers on the front and cadillac discs with parking brake on the rear. And a seville power MC. JR
Taman
05-31-2010, 05:14 PM
Wilwood 6 piston 12.19" front 4 piston 12.19" rear.
FR67C
06-03-2010, 08:45 AM
Baer Sport front & rear (12" Rotors F&R) w/ Willwood manual (7/8") Master Cylinder. Bought when I started project 10 years ago (Stuff happens & projects have to wait) to clear 16" wheels I was using then.
GrnDragon
06-04-2010, 10:50 AM
On my 95 TA it is 14" Wilwood BSL6 (Front)/14" Wilwood BSL4 (Rear) with integral Parking Brake.
On my 69 Camaro it is a custom 15" kit using Coleman Machine rotors, custom hats, Wilwood TC6 calipers on all 4 corners and Mr. Parker external E-Brake caliper.
Procharmo
06-12-2010, 07:21 AM
Baer Track 13" front and 12" rear. Choosen to enable me to bolt them on with no major issues as I'm not a 2nd Gen brake expert. I wish I had gone with the extreme 6 pots but may be they wouldn't have cleared 17" wheels. They transformed the car...
On my 95 TA it is 14" Wilwood BSL6 (Front)/14" Wilwood BSL4 (Rear) with integral Parking Brake.
On my 69 Camaro it is a custom 15" kit using Coleman Machine rotors, custom hats, Wilwood TC6 calipers on all 4 corners and Mr. Parker external E-Brake caliper.
Man those are some big stoppers.:jawdrop:
I leaning to the c5/c6 set up but am having a hard time choosing. C5Z06 with Z51 disks? Stock C5 or C6? or go nuts with a C6 Z06 set up:dunno:
Apogee
06-16-2010, 08:01 AM
...I leaning to the c5/c6 set up but am having a hard time choosing. C5Z06 with Z51 disks? Stock C5 or C6? or go nuts with a C6 Z06 set up:dunno:
You can't go wrong with any of those, it just depends on what you want to do and how much you have to spend. Performance-wise, the base level C5/C6 brakes are an excellent bang-for-the-buck and are capable of meeting or exceeding most people's braking needs. That said, a little extra rotor like the Z51 option can have certain advantages, both with respect to performance and looks. The Z06's are bigger still and give you a massive caliper for that blinging big-brake appeal, but while they're quite affordable for what they are, they'll still require a much thicker center wheel for caliper clearance than any of the floating caliper options.
HTH,
Tobin
KORE3
Rick Dorion
06-16-2010, 08:27 AM
I'll be the budget anchor man! I have 12" C4 fronts using a 13/16" manual mc and drum rears. Works well for my current street useage.
RSX302
07-01-2010, 09:03 PM
Wilwood SL6's on 13" rotors front
Wilwood FDL on 12" rotors rears
ABS Electric Power Brake System
Found that power assist is a very good thing above 3500lbs. :yeah:
Procharmo
07-13-2010, 08:02 AM
Baer Track 13" front and 12" rear. Choosen to enable me to bolt them on with no major issues as I'm not a 2nd Gen brake expert. I wish I had gone with the extreme 6 pots but may be they wouldn't have cleared 17" wheels. They transformed the car...
Looking for more performance now.
I'm currently running ($1400)Baer Track one piece rotor 13", 2 pot Zinc washed, drilled, slotted, grooved up front with Baer Iron sport 11.625" Zinc washed, drilled, slotted, grooved in the rear. I have 17 x8 and 17 x11 wheels.
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Possibly looking to improve braking as I have just added an additional Procharger blower. Will upgrading to ($2200) Baer Pro-Plus Systems 13" drilled, slotted & zinc washed 2 piece rotors with Baer 6P staggered bore 6 piston callipers give me an appreciable decrease in stopping distances with Toyo R888 255/17/40's.
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Or will it just allow more time before brake fade????
Using the NEW wilwood D-52 Calipers up front and "Chevy" 1979 Cadillac rear Calipers, Hawk pads up front and GM organics in the rear, standard 11 booster, SSBC brass (disc/disc) proportioning valve, OEM replacement lines from Inline Tube, and Teflon stainless steel braided soft lines(front/rear), rotors from Liz Miles old 68 camaro and her old master cylinder, that's it
Steven
07-13-2010, 09:00 AM
Going into my first a track day, I suspected that I would need a new brake system. I went with the SBCC front and rear kit as they were the only one at the time who presented a complet kit. I was not into gathering all the parts from different sources and doing it my self. They work excellent on the street and for the few track days that I go to.
instro84
07-15-2010, 10:18 PM
LS1 disc all around, combined with factory hydroboost.
Tiger
07-15-2010, 11:12 PM
Porsche Cayenne Brembo calipers 6piston front and 4piston rear, 14.25" Audi Rotors up front and 14.25" Wilwood rotrors on arrival from California.
sebtarta
07-16-2010, 05:49 AM
Porsche Cayenne Brembo calipers 6piston front and 4piston rear, 14.25" Audi Rotors up front and 14.25" Wilwood rotrors on arrival from California.
More info on this please, plus pictures.
psy4s
07-16-2010, 05:56 AM
I have factory Four Piston Front Disks, with new factory style single piston disk in the rear.
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bonecrrusher
07-16-2010, 06:05 AM
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C6Z all around..
protour73
07-22-2010, 04:04 PM
Wilwood Dynalite's at all for corners, 12.19" rotors, and 4 piston calipers
and a soon to be installed Hydroboost unit.
NOT A TA
07-23-2010, 08:19 AM
I've pushed the limits of the stock single piston fronts and drum rears on The 14 Car for years trying all kinds of heavy duty and ceramic pads/shoes etc. Since I use the car on full size road tracks it's been tough on parts. Porterfield race pads up front and custom made race shoes in the rear with finned drums worked the best on track but I overheated the rotors (crystalize them) and would need to get new rotors for each track weekend. I kept a dedicated set of track pads/rotors & drums/shoes and would switch everything before and after eack track event.
I kept doing that because going with new brakes would also require new wheels and tires and the combined expense of brakes/wheels/tires is a lot. So I spent my money on rotors, race pads/shoes, and entry fees so I could go to the tracks.
I was lucky enough to win the Performance Therapy photo contest and Yokohama Tires, Rushforth wheels, and Baer brakes were some of the prizes I was awarded as the grand prize winner. So I can move up to bigger diameter brakes/wheels/tires all at the same time.
Todd at Baer went way, way, way, beyond his contest donation obligation to really hook me up with a serious set of brakes that are just what my car needs for track use! After talking with him about the parts I've built the car with and what I do with it he decided on my setup. I explained that although my car's pretty and photographic I'm more of a track/race guy using the car for LSR, HPDE, and drag events plus regular street driving and don't show the car. I'm function first kind of guy and then if I can make it look good I do. If I have time and money I'll go to a track not a show or cruise.
Todd made a whole bunch of suggestions while I nodded my head on the other end of the phone not knowing about some of the things he was talking about since I'm no brake engineer. Anyway here's what he came up with that arrived yesterday. I'm so psyched! These rotors are as big as the wheels the car left the factory with!
14" slotted rotors with their 6P (asphalt competition) calipers all around. Parking brake and an adjustable proportioning valve. Not only is it a killer setup, they went above and beyond, by sending them out in the new Nickle finish! (not even on their website yet!) So for once I'm the guy with the newest cool parts! I took pics of course! LOL
Fronts with spindles necessary come out of the box like this ready to go!
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Rears
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Parking brake that fits inside the rear rotors and a bias valve I'm going to try to install within reach of the drivers seat so I can fine tune it on track.
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Taman
07-24-2010, 07:11 AM
Free stuff is great isn't it. It also helps you thrash your car, so the vendors get their monies worth. Nice looking brakes. I know what you mean about the stock stuff. I upgraded from the stock disc\drum to 4 wheel Wilwoods. Not quite as big rotors. Make sure you have your seat belt on or you will taste the windshield when you through out the anchor.
castine917
07-24-2010, 10:06 AM
stock on 1, wilwood on 1, and yeah where is brembo or other option. brembo is stock on some so i guess....
MonzaRacer
07-24-2010, 12:40 PM
Figuring on C6 Z06/Z51 big brakes on front of Caprice clearing them with split 5 spoke black 18 in Vette repro wheels and C5/C6 small brakes to work with 17 in wheels, not check on design.
Since Ido like to dragrace and may try to dig up some slicks or cheaters I will probably use S10/Blazer rear disc on both. Especially since Monza rear end is S10/Blazer 10 bolt.
LONE*STAR
08-22-2010, 10:49 PM
Currently I'm finishing the install of 4wheel c5 kit via Kore3 brackets and lines, used c5 z06 calipers... hydroboost with a willwood master. Whats stopping me is the fact that I'm scrapping time together to finish the install.
I just got c6 calipers and brakets :thankyou:, I just haven't decided as to what rotors I should use :idea:
FR67C
08-24-2010, 11:46 AM
Baer/C4 front, Gen 3 Camaro Z28/LE1 calipers, C4 rotors, Baer brackets for 9" Ford rear, braided hoses from Tobin at Kore3 and e brake cables from Lokar.https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=40086&stc=1&d=1282678969https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=40088&stc=1&d=1282678969https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=40087&stc=1&d=1282678969https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=40089&stc=1&d=1282678969
fbody_mike
08-30-2010, 07:35 AM
1972 Firebird
1LE brakes up front with Ceramic pads. LS1 rear conversion with ceramic pads. GM 1978 four wheel disc master with Russel flex lines and Wilwood proportioning valve.
monteboy84
09-13-2010, 09:31 AM
C5 rotors and calipers all around with Carbotech pads. Haven't gotten to use them yet, but my reasoning for going C5 was purely due to parts availability. No matter where I am in the country, someone will have parts available if something happens. They're also a significant upgrade from stock G-body brakes, and pretty affordable in contrast to some of the aftermarket stuff out there.
-matt
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