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ditonics
03-25-2010, 09:33 AM
Having now done a lot of reading on chassis and suspension tuning and design I want to start to mock up ideas on paper and the computer for front suspension.
My control arms will be custom and so too will their mounting points with the usual coil-over set up.
My question is what are my choices for spindles? I will be running 18" wheels so want to take advantage of the extra space and use taller spindles. the car will be used on the street and the occasional track day. The cra is a 66'stang but the whole front end is custom so I can do what I like. The only thing I need to do is keep the ford 5 stud pattern to keep with the back.
The L&H Kustom ones advertised on this site would seem like an option at first glance.
TitoJones
03-25-2010, 09:52 AM
You want the baddest ones ever to see the light of day?
BAM! (http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41631)
Get your wallet ready though, these bad boys are not cheap.
Oh, also-
BAM! (http://www.jmeenterprises.com/JME%20New%20Suspension.shtml)
and
BAM!!!! (http://www.agentfortyseven.com/)
Good luck to you sir.
Tyler
silver69camaro
03-25-2010, 10:03 AM
Tyler, you're funny.
If it were me, I'd seriously look at the C6 uprights. Tall, great geometry, strong, lightweight, good quality hubs available (can be re-drilled for 4.5" pattern), and endless brake packages at your disposal. Cheap too.
ditonics
03-25-2010, 10:13 AM
You want the baddest ones ever to see the light of day?
BAM! (http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41631)
Get your wallet ready though, these bad boys are not cheap.
Oh, also-
BAM! (http://www.jmeenterprises.com/JME%20New%20Suspension.shtml)
and
BAM!!!! (http://www.agentfortyseven.com/)
Good luck to you sir.
Tyler
I think I just 'cum' over the JME set up - wow.
I will be investigating the possibility of using a bell cranked rear set up with the coilovers laid horizontally in the boot on a 03/04 cobra IRS.
The idea of using a similar set up on the front is a bit tempting - hmmm.
TitoJones
03-25-2010, 12:59 PM
Tyler, you're funny.
If it were me, I'd seriously look at the C6 uprights. Tall, great geometry, strong, lightweight, good quality hubs available (can be re-drilled for 4.5" pattern), and endless brake packages at your disposal. Cheap too.
Thanks. I try to inject wit with a bit of assh*le on the boards.
The C5/C6 upright is also a nice option since they are easily replaced. Matt at Anvil has the JME setup on his 69 Mustang and it is stupid silly awesomesauce. If they ever decide to go into the 1st gen Camaro market....All I can say is they just shouldn't. Unfair.
Tyler
Ron.in.SoCal
03-25-2010, 05:05 PM
Tyler - was that the 'stang that had the JME set up on display at the GN show in Pomona? I had to stare at that thing for 10 minutes before I could even look away.
'Awesomesauce' - agreed!!
TitoJones
03-25-2010, 05:35 PM
Tyler - was that the 'stang that had the JME set up on display at the GN show in Pomona? I had to stare at that thing for 10 minutes before I could even look away.
'Awesomesauce' - agreed!!
The same. You should see the rendering. Actually it's in this month's Hot Rod. Going to be a sick ride.
Tyler
Cris@JCG
03-25-2010, 07:17 PM
JME will be in the Camaro market sooner than you expect Tyler!!
Thanks. I try to inject wit with a bit of assh*le on the boards.
The C5/C6 upright is also a nice option since they are easily replaced. Matt at Anvil has the JME setup on his 69 Mustang and it is stupid silly awesomesauce. If they ever decide to go into the 1st gen Camaro market....All I can say is they just shouldn't. Unfair.
Tyler
Bryce
03-26-2010, 05:45 AM
That JME setup looks heavy to me.
The corner carver spindle looks good. It could be a good starting point for the OP.
Agent 47 is a good SLA design but the converted strut spindle is not an optimized design.
Looking at JME make me think flashy suspension. I know it performs. But upgrades could be done. Like running a woodward rack rather than an OEM mustang. Without knowing the numbers, it looks like that UCA is really short.
I like their ingenuity. But at that price who could run it and what class can they compete in?
sorry a bit off topic
Bryce
03-26-2010, 06:19 AM
What about this spindle. I have no experience with these... http://www.colemanracing.com/store/shopexd.asp?id=906
Could you use a wide 5 hub that is modified for a 5x4.5?
Bryce
03-26-2010, 06:19 AM
maybe this hub?
http://www.colemanracing.com/store/shopexd.asp?id=5592
ditonics
03-26-2010, 06:42 AM
maybe this hub?
http://www.colemanracing.com/store/shopexd.asp?id=5592
I have been looking at agent 45 and coleman, lots of nice stuff out there when you go looking.
Got to check out the corvette spindles next as this might be a way forward that does not bankrupt me.
I am seriously thinking about copying the coilover positioning of the JME setup by using a bell crank - it would reduce unsprung weight, leave lots of room for headers and all the pipework for the twin turbos and look pretty awesome.
All good.
TitoJones
03-26-2010, 07:19 AM
JME will be in the Camaro market sooner than you expect Tyler!!
Go on. Only I am allowed to drop bombs like that and then never elaborate.
Tyler
wendell
03-26-2010, 08:13 AM
maybe this hub?
http://www.colemanracing.com/store/shopexd.asp?id=5592
The wide5 stubs are huge compared to a typical stub. Unless Coleman sells a differnt bolt on stub, you're not going to make it happen.
The blinged up stuff is cool but if I was starting from scratch (and I wouldn't) I'd build it off of either a C5 or Impala upright. The Impala is standard issue circle track stuff. Tall, stiff, well supported for brakes and cheep.
Bryce
03-26-2010, 08:59 AM
thanks wendell.
wendell
03-26-2010, 10:03 AM
thanks wendell.
So do the obvious; build a front end w/ wide5 hubs!
(I'm sort of kidding only because you won't find a wide 5 wheel that's DOT approved.)
ditonics
03-26-2010, 11:07 AM
So do the obvious; build a front end w/ wide5 hubs!
(I'm sort of kidding only because you won't find a wide 5 wheel that's DOT approved.)
The trouble with going wide 5 is that you have a limited choice of wheels - mainly 15 and 16" and I wanted to go 18".
I dont know if you could use a wide 5 spindle and some kind of hub adapter - I have not seen one
Go on. Only I am allowed to drop bombs like that and then never elaborate.
Tyler
Patience.
Thanks for the kind words.
I'll look for you tomorrow in El Toro.
The Camaro's will be fun (and easier than the Mustangs) when it's all said and done.
JME1
Patience.
Thanks for the kind words.
I'll look for you tomorrow in El Toro.
The Camaro's will be fun (and easier than the Mustangs) when it's all said and done.
JME1
????? do tell!!! :seizure:
Cris@JCG
04-04-2010, 06:41 AM
This is what we have so far! I am doing the frame rails to use the JME Pro Series suspension..
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/04/7081SubframeAssembly2-1.jpg
Go on. Only I am allowed to drop bombs like that and then never elaborate.
Tyler
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