66 Chevelle PT build (ours)

[craigs73]

x2 but at columbus gg.....thats as long as i get out of work on that friday.....car looks amazing tom

[DHarrison]

The new gauges look great. I'm looking at those for my 67'. Was the install pretty simple?

[tommycomfort]

The new gauges look great. I'm looking at those for my 67'. Was the install pretty simple?

Ours was a little different because we were replacing our existing digital dash, but even with that it is a straight forward install either way. I was actually recovering from hernia surgery and my son Sam did 95% of the install. Pretty good for a 15 year old. We're getting ready to do the same install on Debbie's wagon and I would think it will go very smooth since we have experience now. Always seems like a daunting task until you dive in...
Tom

[DHarrison]

It's a clean look thats for sure. Looks like he has learned a lot with your project and now he has a neat 67 of his own. I have been looking at his thread every once in a while to see updates on his car.

Did you use any type of fan controller on your duel fan setup? Do you have a problem with your fans both being on draining the battery during startup when the engine is already warm? (For example, if you shut the car down to get gas and turn the car back on, do your fans kick in as soon as you turn the key and drain the battery down to the point where the engine stuggles to start)

Dale

[tommycomfort]

Sorry for the delayed response, we've been wrenching on Deb's wagon non-stop lately. When we did the LS swap we I decided to let the Mast controller activate the fans. The Mast harness is already set up with a relay, but since I already had multiple relays in place I just use the Mast wire to activate the ones I already had. Probably overkill but we definitely won't overload the circuit. The Derale fans have high and low settings, so right now the controller only turns both fans on low and then if needed we can turn them on high with toggles switches manually (never needed). Never had a problem with the fans draining things while starting the car either, I have a feeling the ECU doesn't energize them when the key is turned to start. Hope that clarifies things more than confuses them! Tom

[csouth]

Tom, nice meeting you this weekend. You hava a very nice family and your car looks just as good in person as it does here. Hope to see you guys at Gingerman running strong...

[tommycomfort]

Tom, nice meeting you this weekend. You hava a very nice family and your car looks just as good in person as it does here. Hope to see you guys at Gingerman running strong...

Chris it was good to meet you at GG's Columbus and give you a little off track adventure at Gingerman. I'm sure we'll see you more and more as the Cutlass comes together.
Tom

[tommycomfort]

It's been a while since any updates but rest assured we have been making constant improvements and using the car to the limit of my ability more often than not. Here's a few things recent.

Fuel tank straps
One of the most annoying things that has never been bad enough to make me do anything about has been the metal drum sound when we slam the deck lid. After doing some research we determined that it was the fuel tank straps without rubber insulators against the Rick’s tank. The last time we were down at Ridetech we noticed that they used 1” shrink tube around there straps and it looked great. So that’s exactly what we did. The sound is 90% gone and that’s pretty good for now but we’ll chase the rest soon enough.

before
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after
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/DSC07292-1.jpg

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When we put the car together we planned on installing a passenger side mirror, but it didn’t have a mounting boss in the door and we were running too short on time and it never happened. Well now it finally has. I just got tired of backing into parking spots partially blind on that side of the car. I figured out where the mounting holes should be, drilled the holes then marked a small piece of 1/8 aluminum and tapped it

Just a mirror...
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/DSC07343-1.jpg

DSE 600 steering box
Here’s an upgrade I’ve wanted to do for a long time. We’ve been running the AGR 800 series box since we built the car with no real complaints but like I’ve said before, we believe in running “matched” parts as a complete system. Who am I kidding, we did it to shave the advertised six pounds off the front end. Turns out that the AGR box is a little lighter than stock and we only saved 5.4 pounds… But, it more than makes up for the weight of the passenger side mirror and cold air intake though. ;-) I also justified the cost by passing down the AGR box to Sam’s Chevelle build.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/DSC07361-1.jpg

I was too cheap to buy the ceramic coated box, so we just painted it with Duplicolor high temperature "cast iron"
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/DSC07346-1.jpg

Weight comparison
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/DSC07359-1.jpg
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Spectre cold air intake
We finally installed a Spectre cold air intake to draw some cool air into the engine. I had made a big list of individual parts we needed to make it all work, but then found out that they now have a kit for an LS swap into a 66/67 Chevelle (thanks to Mike Morrow at Spectre). When Mike Norris tuned the engine last fall he had said we were really hurting the power by having the small air cleaner draw from right behind the radiator. Now that we have thousands of miles on the LS in all kinds of weather we can see that to be factual. Obviously nothing is a direct fit with an LS swap but adapting the Spectre kit to work was no big deal. We did move our power steering reservoir out of the way and mount it to the rear of the air box. The only other thing was drilling holes for the intake air temperature (IAT) sensor and the -6 fitting for the PCV system to draw fresh air.


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[eric1967]

The gas tank strap is a great idea. I am going to try that. Thanks for the tip.

[srh3trinity]

I like that this car is always moving forward. My favorite Chevelle is the 66 and yours has to be my favorite 66 out there. Can't wait to see some progress on Sam's build.

[tommycomfort]

The gas tank strap is a great idea. I am going to try that. Thanks for the tip.

I'll give all that credit to Bret Voelkel and Greg Schneider, but you're welcome Eric!


I like that this car is always moving forward. My favorite Chevelle is the 66 and yours has to be my favorite 66 out there. Can't wait to see some progress on Sam's build.

Stephen, I know we've said it before, but we really want to start to put some time in on Sam's Chevelle soon. Our goal is to have the body blasted and in sealer by Christmas.

[csouth]

Tom,

Your car really made some indecision in my houshold....lol After the ride at Gingerman, Abby and I were going back and forth about LS swap for my car. I'm gonna stig with the big block for now...I must say, I love the way you keep improving on that great ride of yours...

[66larkgs]

love the car!! what brand heat shrink and where did you find it on the roll. i buy most my heatshrink from MSC and it is by 3m but i have never seen 1" bigger than 6" pieces.. Thanks for that great tip, i will be using it on my 66!

[bonecrrusher]

Nice intake.

[musclecarmatt]

tom...i got the same steering box on my car got the quick ratio and steering feels great!

[coolwelder62]

Man I love this Chevelle.I must get me one just like it.!!!!!

[67rag]

Tom,

Where did you get the fuel tank? Did you need to make any modifications for the installation?

Andy

[tommycomfort]

Andy,
Just basically a direct bolt in from Rick's tanks. Guys have given me grief over how low it sits, but we've never had a problem with it contacting anything in the road and I've started to like it low.
rickstanks.com
Tom

[MarkM66]

love the car!! what brand heat shrink and where did you find it on the roll. i buy most my heatshrink from MSC and it is by 3m but i have never seen 1" bigger than 6" pieces.. Thanks for that great tip, i will be using it on my 66!

I've seen some on ebay, and Amazon. Here's an example;

http://www.amazon.com/Install-Bay-Heat-Shrink-Inch/dp/B0053PYAWQ/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1345201863&sr=8-7&keywords=1%22+heat+shrink+tubing

[tommycomfort]

love the car!! what brand heat shrink and where did you find it on the roll. i buy most my heatshrink from MSC and it is by 3m but i have never seen 1" bigger than 6" pieces.. Thanks for that great tip, i will be using it on my 66!

Sorry Paul, I meant to reply to your post a while back, but road trips and work got in the way...

I hate to say it, but the heat shrink is made in China and purchased at Harbor Frieght. Works great and couldn't get any cheaper.

Tom

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/DSC07390-1.jpg

[67rag]

Andy,
Just basically a direct bolt in from Rick's tanks. Guys have given me grief over how low it sits, but we've never had a problem with it contacting anything in the road and I've started to like it low.
rickstanks.com
Tom

Thanks Tom. They are awesome looking tanks.

Andy

[tommycomfort]

I just thought I would post a picture of our odometer after returning from driving the car to Nebraska for the Sand Hills Open Road Challenge. If we're doing nothing else, we have certainly put a lot of miles on the car since the end of May 2010. Now that the A/C is working it is that much better for long trip.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/DSC07453-1.jpg

[wiedemab]

Damn - - -that is awesome! I don't think I've put that many mile son my daily drive since then!

[tommycomfort]

Well, I should have known not to brag about how many miles we have on the 66 (now over 18,000). On the way to Bob Bertelson's event in Northeastern Ohio last Thursday night I was trailering the wagon and Deb and Sam were following in the 66. A Semi in front of us lost his driveshaft, and being Dark and in traffic, Deb didn't see it. I think the pictures will give everyone a pretty good idea of what happened next. On the bright side, there is no body damage!

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Also did a little damage to the rear of the frame and the Rick's tank. Looks like we'll be out of commission for a little while...

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

ooooooohh, sheeet... damn I feel for you.

[eric1967]

Wow, glad everyone is ok. Any other damage than the pan?

[Ron S]

Wow Tom, that is alittle worse then even you were thinking. Oil pan (cha ching) Engine issues?(cha ching)New Headers(cha ching)New fuel tank(cha ching)New Wheel(cha ching)Frame damage?(cha ching)

Just a quick addition of cha chings, I see your insurance guy not sending you a Christmas card this year.

[Bad94]

Like we talked about there could be alot more damage.


And how come that "street car " is spending alot of time on the trailer? Had to say that.

[sanman357]

I hope you got ahold of the semi drivers insurance.

[srh3trinity]

Yikes, I guess that is one of the downfalls to a cast pan, but it wouldn't have mattered. Let's all hope that the engine internals survived. I hate this for you guys, but I know you will bring it back good as (or better than) new.

[chevelletiger]

what really matters is your wife and son didnt get hurt with a flying drive shaft.is the insurance compant going to cover all of the repairs? Phil

[csouth]

Damn Tom, that sucks! Glad there is nothing internally damaged.

[66larkgs]

Heck yeah we'll be at RTTH's. Hopefully we can have the wagon and the 66 there. You'll be there right?

[QUOTE=tommycomfort;928981]Sorry Paul, I meant to reply to your post a while back, but road trips and work got in the way...


Tom,
Thanks for replying and sorry to hear about the bad luck. Thank god it staied under the car and didn't come up through the floor or hit the windshield. I am sure it will be better than before and will have it up and going in no time. hope to make it one time to a event to see your fleet in action.

[JMitch19]

Wow, sorry to see that. Glad everyone is ok.

[coolwelder62]

Tom,you can fix the header w/air pressure and heat.Just fixed Alberts.He hit a concrete block in the highway.I have a LS3 camaro pan you can have N/C. if you need it.

[GeoffP]

As said above, the company's insurance that owns the semi will cover your loss. Hopefully you got the info? If not, your insurance should cover it.

[tommycomfort]

Thanks for the condolences everyone. I guess I should have said "at least nobody got hurt" but no body damage seemed like a pretty big deal too. :-) We also are in good hands with our insurance agent Alex LaRue and have been contacted by our insurance company American Modern a couple of times. We're working on an estimate right now to turn in to them. We also got pictures of the truck and the police report with the insurance information. The only iffy thing that I see is determining if there is any internal damage from aluminum or dirt from the side of the road. I just don't trust the integrity of the engine anymore. We'll see how the insurance company feels about opening it up. Sam has been working on pulling the engine and trans this weekend while I have been dumping time into the wagon's fuel tank so Deb and Sam can enjoy themselves at RTTH's without me. Blah!

[GeoffP]

There's no reason you can't enjoy too Tom - I'll even let you drive my car so you can show me what it's capable of! :)

[Yelcamino]

Sorry to hear about the bad luck Tom, but come down to Pigeon Forge and you and I can flog Carol's Boss 302 (she has to work!)!

[Jim Nilsen]

Wow Tom, the last time I saw a trail of oil like that was behind the Cormaro.
Sorry to hear about this and hope you get everything back to the way it was. But if it is like all the times I have been through a problem like that the car just gets better.
Just ask Matt Altamore about our ride last December 1st when the engine went in mine. Then remember how much faster I was at the Motorstate and you only being a few tenth's of a second faster than me.

I can only believe that I will have to step up my game a whole lot more to keep up with the changes that will come from this.Some here are really feeling sorry for you, not tot say that I'm not, but damn I'm jealous that you get to have it paid for by someone else.

Keep us in formed with what's going on and good luck.

[jonmc56]

Ugh, those pictures made me sick. So sorry to hear about it Tom, glad everyone is ok.

Jon

[FlyDoc]

when your changing the pan out, pull the main caps. that should tell you if you need to go deeper in to the engine.

[walis]

hi tommy glad to see u all are ok ! seems like a old question u installed flowmaster 50`s 2 1/2 inch as i understand it are u happy with the sound at highwayspeed or do u have
any low tones from the exhaust , in general are u happy with the mufflers ???

[tommycomfort]

hi tommy glad to see u all are ok ! seems like a old question u installed flowmaster 50`s 2 1/2 inch as i understand it are u happy with the sound at highwayspeed or do u have
any low tones from the exhaust , in general are u happy with the mufflers ???

We have zero complaints with the flowmasters and the interior sound. It always surprises people how quiet it is when we run the road course. We could probably benefit from a better flowing complete exhaust system but for now it's just fine.
Tom

[walis]

64618 i dont want this :-)

[66larkgs]

Tom, any updates yet? Looking forward to see what is next

[tommycomfort]

Tom, any updates yet? Looking forward to see what is next

Nothing yet, I have been away doing National Guard stuff for a couple of weeks and before that was prepping the wagon so Deb, Sam and Kaytlin could take it to RTTH's. The engine is completely disconnected and ready to come out for inspection though. Hopefully we can finish up with insurance in the next week or so and get back on the road. If at all possible we plan to be at Day at the Strip October 13-14.

[66larkgs]

Will you guys be attending SEMA this year? If so would love to check out cars.

[tommycomfort]

Will you guys be attending SEMA this year? If so would love to check out cars.

Hey Paul,

We will be at SEMA just to hang out and attend the Pro-Touring dinner, but will not be bringing the car.

[66larkgs]

Tom,
This is my First time to SEMA and was hoping to see them. Me, my wife Cathy and some of my car buddies from down here will also be attending our first Pro-touring Dinner and the street car challenge on sat so cant wait for it to come. This is our first real event and i am like a little kid the night before christmas!!

[tommycomfort]

Just a little update on the Chevelle since the accident.

The front crossmember was the initial impact location and suffered a substantial dent/gouge.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/10/DSC07772-1.jpg

You can see here how the oil pan was shoved over and broke the starter.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/10/DSC07824-1.jpg

As a result, the starter mounting boss was broken off the aluminum block.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/10/DSC07787-1.jpg

This is one of the bolts from the transmission crossmember to the energy suspension trans mount.
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Bent rim (obviously)
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[tommycomfort]

So, we still need to sort out the insurance deal, but for now we weren't willing to be done for the season. We borrowed Sam's 6.2 that already had all the machine work done. All we needed to do was install the Mast Motorsports cam and bolt the heads on. We'll still replace the frame eventually and need to replace the dented Rick's tank and a few other things. At this point we've bought a new rim, new rear brake pads, clutch and borrowed an oil pan. Sam and I took it for a quick spin last night and it seemed to go down the road fine and the engine felt powerful.

Sam swapping engine parts.
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New LS7 clutch installed (thanks to Chris Jacobs!)
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Comparison of the new LS7 disc to the old Centerforce one.
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[SDS MACHINING]

sorry to hear about this, hopefully everything works out on the insurance side of things and you are fairly compensated for all the work and labor, one of those wrong place at the wrong time situations that could have been tragic.

[dontlifttoshift]

I guess Sam gets a bigger motor then.

[tommycomfort]

I guess Sam gets a bigger motor then.

I agreed to seat his rings for him. Isn't that enough? :-)

[dontlifttoshift]

Oh, I see, you are doing a him favor......I had it backwards.....

You really think the frame needs replacement? Been to the alignment shop yet? As nasty as it looks I don't think that crossmember would be an issue, plus as long as it is that way everything that goes wrong could be Deb's fault......forever. Don't tell her I said that.

[Ron S]

Wow Tom thats a mess. Way worse then you thought! That block is probably repairable, but it sounds like its time for this-
http://www.ebay.com/itm/World-Warhawk-Aluminum-Block-086515-NEW-LS7-LS7X-/160885799346?pt=Race_Car_Parts&hash=item25758a79b2&vxp=mtr

[eric1967]

Are we going to see you at the Day at the Strip next week?

[65_LS1_T56]

Wow Tom thats a mess. Way worse then you thought! That block is probably repairable, but it sounds like its time for this-
http://www.ebay.com/itm/World-Warhawk-Aluminum-Block-086515-NEW-LS7-LS7X-/160885799346?pt=Race_Car_Parts&hash=item25758a79b2&vxp=mtr

Good call Ron!
I agree, those blocks look stout.

[tommycomfort]

Wow Tom thats a mess. Way worse then you thought! That block is probably repairable, but it sounds like its time for this-
http://www.ebay.com/itm/World-Warhawk-Aluminum-Block-086515-NEW-LS7-LS7X-/160885799346?pt=Race_Car_Parts&hash=item25758a79b2&vxp=mtr

I like your thinking. You already know that we're thinking of our next level of performance!

[tommycomfort]

Are we going to see you at the Day at the Strip next week?

Yep, we'll be there!

[Ron S]

This really what I think you need, dry sump and all.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-All-Aluminum-6-2-Liter-620-H-P-LS-Dry-Sump-Engine-/300788057035?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item46085d83cb&vxp=mtr

[analyte]

Please provide some feedback and a comparison on feel and the grab with the new LS7 clutch. I still haven't decided what to do, but I'm interested if you like it better, as well, or less than the CF you replaced.

Also, if a new frame is needed, the Roadster Shop is just a phone call away!!!

Great to hear everything's back together!!


Kerry

[GeoffP]

Hey Tom is there any chance that block is repairable? I have seen blocks welded without any problem down the road.

[tommycomfort]

Please provide some feedback and a comparison on feel and the grab with the new LS7 clutch. I still haven't decided what to do, but I'm interested if you like it better, as well, or less than the CF you replaced.

Also, if a new frame is needed, the Roadster Shop is just a phone call away!!!

Great to hear everything's back together!!


Kerry

Kerry,
We put 300+ miles on the car over the weekend and really liked the feel of the clutch. Mostly I noticed the change of where the clutch engages but Deb said it was actually easier pedal effort than before. The old clutch still felt good and didn't slip, but wasn't engaging until the pedal was all the way out. This coming weekend we should really be able to put it through its paces at Day at the Strip and we'll let you know after that.
Tom

[eric1967]

Tom we will see you this weekend at the Day at the Strip

[tommycomfort]

Here's an upgrade that slipped through the cracks since it was done right before Deb hit the driveshaft and all heck broke loose..

Old drilled and slotted rotors were worn out (cracking) and Hawk HP pads were paper thin so we upgraded to two piece rotors from Baer.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/10/DSC07590-1.jpg

New front rotors are 13.38" and old ones were 12.79"
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/10/DSC07576-1.jpg

Maybe not as sexy but very functional and a total weight savings on all four rotors of 6.8 pounds! :-)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/10/DSC07580-1.jpg

[bonecrrusher]

Did the Baer upgrades require new brackets?

[tommycomfort]

Did the Baer upgrades require new brackets?

Not new brackets but new Z51 abutments.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/10/DSC07584-1.jpg

[analyte]

Please provide some feedback and a comparison on feel and the grab with the new LS7 clutch. I still haven't decided what to do, but I'm interested if you like it better, as well, or less than the CF you replaced.

Also, if a new frame is needed, the Roadster Shop is just a phone call away!!!

Great to hear everything's back together!!


Kerry

Kerry,
We put 300+ miles on the car over the weekend and really liked the feel of the clutch. Mostly I noticed the change of where the clutch engages but Deb said it was actually easier pedal effort than before. The old clutch still felt good and didn't slip, but wasn't engaging until the pedal was all the way out. This coming weekend we should really be able to put it through its paces at Day at the Strip and we'll let you know after that.
Tom

Thanks Tom, Have fun!!

[bonecrrusher]

I had to click back all the way to page 1 - now I see why your are running z51 brackets - Upgrading your c5 based fronts... nice!

If you ever decide to get crazy - those spindles you have should fit 2006+ Z06 brakes and 2009+ ZR1 CF rotors and assemblies as well.

[tommycomfort]

I had to click back all the way to page 1 - now I see why your are running z51 brackets - Upgrading your c5 based fronts... nice!

If you ever decide to get crazy - those spindles you have should fit 2006+ Z06 brakes and 2009+ ZR1 CF rotors and assemblies as well.

Hey Craig,
We've been thinking about upgrading brakes a little further for a while now. ZR1 CF stuff would be too cool. Not likely, but cool...

[csouth]

Hey Tom,
I noticed you getting some tv time on the OUSI event from Wisconsin. Looks like it was a lot of fun.... Congrats!

[ryeguy2006a]

I saw that too on Hot Rod TV! I was watching it and thinking how cool it was and then I saw your car and said I know that guy. Well sorta, lol. That event looked amazing, and once I get my LS1/6 speed swap done I would love to do some events like that! Congrats on the TV time.

[tommycomfort]

Thanks guys! We were pleasantly surprised how much air time the Chevelle received. It really made me want to hit another road course event before putting the car away for the season, but it looks like we'll settle for Charlotte Goodguys instead.

[wiedemab]

I watched the event last night with Nora (my 3.5 year old). I kept telling her that is Daddy's friend! She was impressed. It is pretty cool to watch something like that when I know quite a few of the folks competing.

I was actually more excited that Nora asked me what kind of car each car was. She would also want to know if every person on screen was my friend or not.

Jessica was bummed that Tom hogged all the spotlight - - She was wondering where Deb was with the wagon!!! ;)

[tommycomfort]

I watched the event last night with Nora (my 3.5 year old). I kept telling her that is Daddy's friend! She was impressed. It is pretty cool to watch something like that when I know quite a few of the folks competing.
I was actually more excited that Nora asked me what kind of car each car was. She would also want to know if every person on screen was my friend or not.
Jessica was bummed that Tom hogged all the spotlight - - She was wondering where Deb was with the wagon!!! ;)

Ha, just read that comment. I guess I did hog all the "spotlight"!

[tommycomfort]

Sam and I went to Redi-Strip in Indy to pick up our frames today. We had them dipped in order to get all the gunk out before boxing them. Our winter plan is to install the ABC Performance mini-tub kit on both frames and the deep wheel tubs in his 67 and our 66. This upgrade might take a little longer than the winter though.

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[AJ_McPherson]

Dual car frame swap.... No problem for the Farringtons!

[Ron S]

What I want to know is, where do you find 2 Chevelle frames without holes in the front corners?

[65_LS1_T56]

Tom is a man of many talents Ron. He continues to amaze us! Looks like two real nice cores Tom. Spark up the plasma cutter and the metal caulk gun!

[tommycomfort]

What I want to know is, where do you find 2 Chevelle frames without holes in the front corners?

Doesn't everyone have 21 64-67 Chevelle parts cars? ;-)

Actually we sold the frame from Sam's first 67 four door and this current one came with his very solid Kansas car. I started shopping for a solid frame for the 66 and then realized we had a very nice one under a 65 four door from Oklahoma. A few slight differences, but is a direct bolt in and by the time we're done cutting and pasting nobody will no the difference. The numbers matching guys already roll their eyes at what we have done anyway...

[tommycomfort]

Tom is a man of many talents Ron. He continues to amaze us! Looks like two real nice cores Tom. Spark up the plasma cutter and the metal caulk gun!

No talent here Aaron, we're just learning as we go and re-doing things until they are right (or close to it).

"metal caulk gun" that gave me a good chuckle this morning!

[RMMiller]

What I want to know is, where do you find 2 Chevelle frames without holes in the front corners?

This would be a good start, we have nice solid cars in our region. Dan, the guy that owns this place has been gathering GM muscle cars since the 70's and has a ton of parts an cars.

http://www.dansgarage.net/

[tommycomfort]

Well, here's some big news for our 66 Chevelle and the Farrington family. At this point, this will be the 5th or 6th engine/rebuild we've been through, just depends on how you count them up.

Here's what we decided on to replace our "broken" L92/LS3/L99.

Mast Motorsports L99 416 cubic inch, SS Black Label, 606 horsepower and 557 torque crate engine.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/11/DSC07968-1.jpg

[eric1967]

That looks like fun.

[dontlifttoshift]

That is way cool. Thats a pretty good step up from where you were.....Sam will show you how to drive it, don't be scared.

Stayed with the VVT?

[csouth]

NICE! Tom are you willing to adopt a 40yo?...lol

[65_LS1_T56]

Well, here's some big news for our 66 Chevelle and the Farrington family. At this point, this will be the 5th or 6th engine/rebuild we've been through, just depends on how you count them up.

Here's what we decided on to replace our "broken" L92/LS3/L99.

Mast Motorsports L99 416 cubic inch, SS Black Label, 606 horsepower and 557 torque crate engine.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/11/DSC07968-1.jpg

I'm ready to come down for a BBQ, looks like you got plenty of charcoal :firefire:

Sweet motor btw. There goes your tire budget :)

[musclecarmatt]

Well, here's some big news for our 66 Chevelle and the Farrington family. At this point, this will be the 5th or 6th engine/rebuild we've been through, just depends on how you count them up.

Here's what we decided on to replace our "broken" L92/LS3/L99.

Mast Motorsports L99 416 cubic inch, SS Black Label, 606 horsepower and 557 torque crate engine.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/11/DSC07968-1.jpg

wicked looking motor....should move the chevelle nicely!

[JMitch19]

That looks fun. What really stands out to me is how much taller the deck is on the Mast heads. Any plans to put this one on the rollers and see what kind of rear wheel numbers it puts down? I'd be curious to see how much drivetrain loss there is.

[CodexGigas]

Well, here's some big news for our 66 Chevelle and the Farrington family. At this point, this will be the 5th or 6th engine/rebuild we've been through, just depends on how you count them up.

Here's what we decided on to replace our "broken" L92/LS3/L99.

Mast Motorsports L99 416 cubic inch, SS Black Label, 606 horsepower and 557 torque crate engine.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/11/DSC07968-1.jpg
Jesus H Christ!!!!! That is one Godly Motor.

[Ron S]

Did you thank the truck driver for losing his driveshaft yet?LOL

[tommycomfort]

That is way cool. Thats a pretty good step up from where you were.....Sam will show you how to drive it, don't be scared.

Stayed with the VVT?

We've had such good results with our Mast VVT Cam in the current engine that we decided to stick with it.

[tommycomfort]

That looks fun. What really stands out to me is how much taller the deck is on the Mast heads. Any plans to put this one on the rollers and see what kind of rear wheel numbers it puts down? I'd be curious to see how much drivetrain loss there is.

Once it's all back together we plan to take it to Mike Norris and have him fine tune it a bit so we should see what kind of parasitic loss we get from the complete drivetrain. We'll also tune it based on our driving and intended use which will tone it down a bit also. Still should be an easy 50-75 HP improvement at the wheels though.

[tommycomfort]

Did you thank the truck driver for losing his driveshaft yet?LOL

Maybe I should send him a thank you card with an Applebees gift card or something. ;-)

[shawnvan]

Of all these cars on the site this is the one I can go thru time and again to keep motivated. I love the build and evolution of this car, keep posting it really helps me get in the garage. I love how the family is involved, and how you manage to juggle your three and a customer car. Some day we need a panoramic of your shop and how you can fit it all in.

[srh3trinity]

The valve covers are really tall too. Great looking engine, congrats Tom.

[FRENCHBLUE72]

I just spent all morning between being in the house and the shop and damn what a build.. I am 67 fan but love your 66 also.... Thanks for takin the time to post up all the pics and info cant wait for more...

[tommycomfort]

I just spent all morning between being in the house and the shop and damn what a build.. I am 67 fan but love your 66 also.... Thanks for takin the time to post up all the pics and info cant wait for more...

Thank for the comment! As soon as I find my camera we'll start updating some pictures of the new frame modifications. ABC Performance frame narrowing/mini-tub kit and one or two other cool mods. Busy winter!

[BuddyP]

Really cool Tom! I look forward to seeing it out on the track this year.

[tommycomfort]

Finally knocked out some other projects so now we can concentrate on only a few and here is one of the bigger ones. After Deb hit the Semi-truck driveshaft we started looking for a replacement frame (which we ended up having under one of our parts cars). So, since the frame is going to be replaced we decided to use the ABC Performance frame narrowing/mini-tub kit along with their frame boxing plates for the middle section. Excellent products!

We're just getting started but here's what we have so far.

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[tommycomfort]

Really cool Tom! I look forward to seeing it out on the track this year.

Thanks Buddy, you and me both! Is yours going to be track ready in 2013?

[GeoffP]

Tom,

What did you use to cut the section out of the frame? I'm mini tubbing my car this winter too and preplanning my project. Yours looks good so far but I don't envy your having to swap the body to the new frame!

[tommycomfort]

Tom,

What did you use to cut the section out of the frame? I'm mini tubbing my car this winter too and preplanning my project. Yours looks good so far but I don't envy your having to swap the body to the new frame!

We're just using a cheap Harbor Freight electric grinder with quality American made cut-off wheels and it's working great. Although, I think I went through 6 cut-off wheels yesterday... We do have a plasma cutter, but the wheels just seemed like I could control them better. So far, so good!

[GeoffP]

Thanks Tom - I've got an air powered cut off tool and an electric. I'll have to source some good cut off wheels.

[Yelcamino]

The frame mods look good Tom.

[eric1967]

Looking good Tom

[droptop73]

Looking good. Does this kit add some material to the inside section of the frame? Old school NASCAR frames had the piece that was cut off the outside welded onto the inside and plated as well.

[coolwelder62]

Tom, Look's Awesome.Did you get the body bushing's.

[tommycomfort]

Looking good. Does this kit add some material to the inside section of the frame? Old school NASCAR frames had the piece that was cut off the outside welded onto the inside and plated as well.

Hey Jeff, The kit does come with an inside boxing plate. Here are a couple of pictures.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/DSC06344-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/DSC06343-1.jpg

[tommycomfort]

Pretty much finished up the passenger side today. I will still need to do some finish welding and grinding when I knock off the braces. The driver side is cut out and the 3/16" plate is tacked in place. Now that I have done one side, it makes more sense and is going a lot faster on the second. Here's where we are now.

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[diesel25lrs]

Damn Tom... I thought maybe i was gonna catch up to you on the track this summer with my winter mods... I'm going to really have to step up my game now!!! J/k- it will be awhile... Looking good buddy-can't wait to see you guys again!

[tommycomfort]

Damn Tom... I thought maybe i was gonna catch up to you on the track this summer with my winter mods... I'm going to really have to step up my game now!!! J/k- it will be awhile... Looking good buddy-can't wait to see you guys again!

Who are you kidding Josh? I just read that you have 345's on the back of the Camaro. It's me that has to step up my game! I'm sure we'll have some fun this coming season one way or another.

[mooseknuckles]

awesome build!....looking forward to more of it!

[csouth]

Looking good Tom. Are you going to widen the rears this winter too?

[1965_SS]

Absolutely awesome build! I like how you are constantly updating with pics and all the different components that you've used. I'm researching components right now for my 65' and you're doing the ABC frame mod at the perfect time. I just sourced a 67' El Camino frame (fully boxed) for my 65' and was planning on ordering up the ABC kit. I was contemplating cutting out the spring pockets also like you did. Are you running their coil over kit or something different now? What about the rear end, shortening it? Can't wait to see more pics of this setup. Thanks!

[IronDougal]

Tom I have been sitting at my Desk/work station all night going through this thread. I am just in AWE. The past few years look like thehave been a big life lesson as well as loads of family fun. That is what it is all about right.
Kudos and congrats and all that Jazz.

Toby..

[tommycomfort]

Looking good Tom. Are you going to widen the rears this winter too?

Hey Chris, I think we can safely run a 12" wide wheel with the new setup, but it looks like we'll probably only go with 11" since that is what Vintage Wheel works offers. With that I was thinking of a 315 but we'll wait and see how the budget goes. We might end up with huge wheel wells and only 295's still....

[tommycomfort]

Absolutely awesome build! I like how you are constantly updating with pics and all the different components that you've used. I'm researching components right now for my 65' and you're doing the ABC frame mod at the perfect time. I just sourced a 67' El Camino frame (fully boxed) for my 65' and was planning on ordering up the ABC kit. I was contemplating cutting out the spring pockets also like you did. Are you running their coil over kit or something different now? What about the rear end, shortening it? Can't wait to see more pics of this setup. Thanks!

Thanks Todd! Like all our projects, they are never done and we keep "improving" on them.
Right now we're running baseline DSE coilovers and will stick with their stuff including the lower differential mount but will probably upgrade those to double adjustables over the winter. From the figuring I have done it looks like we can get away without narrowing the rearend by just ordering the wheels with the back spacing required to make it work.

[tommycomfort]

Tom I have been sitting at my Desk/work station all night going through this thread. I am just in AWE. The past few years look like thehave been a big life lesson as well as loads of family fun. That is what it is all about right.
Kudos and congrats and all that Jazz.

Toby..

Thanks Toby,
The last few years with the car have been an amazing journey! Spending the money to buy parts and attend events is never easy, but it is easier to justify when the whole family is involved!

[BuddyP]

Thanks Buddy, you and me both! Is yours going to be track ready in 2013?

I would like to say yes.... All depends if I can gather up the final funds I need!

[csouth]

Hey Chris, I think we can safely run a 12" wide wheel with the new setup, but it looks like we'll probably only go with 11" since that is what Vintage Wheel works offers. With that I was thinking of a 315 but we'll wait and see how the budget goes. We might end up with huge wheel wells and only 295's still....

OK, I thought you'd probably have those widened by Weldcraft. 315's are sweet, but boy that price...lol

[JMitch19]

Hey Tom looks like you guys are making some nice progress. If you have any thoughts about widening your wheels instead of replacing them check out http://weldcraftwheels.com/index-1.html as Chris mentioned. I know a few people who have used them with really good results.

I had a really hard time picking a rear tire when I minitubed my 68. I wanted to run a BFG because of the way they support what we are doing, but they didn't offer anything wider than a 295 in a 19". In the 18" they jump from the 295 to the 335. I'd really like to see what sizes they plan to offer the new tire in. It would be nice if they offered a 315/35/18 as the current 315/30/18 offered by other companies is only 25.5" tall. I'm not sure if it would look right with the 275/35/18(25.7 tall) most guys are running up front.

Go big or go home.:twothumbs

[tommycomfort]

Hey Tom looks like you guys are making some nice progress. If you have any thoughts about widening your wheels instead of replacing them check out http://weldcraftwheels.com/index-1.html as Chris mentioned. I know a few people who have used them with really good results.

I had a really hard time picking a rear tire when I minitubed my 68. I wanted to run a BFG because of the way they support what we are doing, but they didn't offer anything wider than a 295 in a 19". In the 18" they jump from the 295 to the 335. I'd really like to see what sizes they plan to offer the new tire in. It would be nice if they offered a 315/35/18 as the current 315/30/18 offered by other companies is only 25.5" tall. I'm not sure if it would look right with the 275/35/18(25.7 tall) most guys are running up front.

Go big or go home.:twothumbs

We had kicked around the idea of widening the wheels using Weldcraft, but would need to cuts on each wheel to get the width we want and bring them in a little from the quarter panel lip so the cost just got a little out of hand. Maybe next winter we can widen our 11" wheels. :)

I know that AJ, the engineer that comes to events from BFG told us that the new tire would be available in 275, 295, 315, and 335 (18's) so we should be covered anyway we go...

[chevelletiger]

Ton will the new tire widths have the same thread pattern ?phil.

[dontlifttoshift]

No. It is a completely different tire. Look at coverage from Optima and check out Kyle Tucker's or Brian Finch's car for tread pattern. The tire has three grooves around the circumference and really wide outer tread blocks.

I am pretty sure the 315 was a 30 series......we'll see in a couple of months.

[tommycomfort]

It's been a while since any picture updates but it's not due to lack of work on the car. No big items that we can just call complete, but a lot of progress in a lot of directions.

We're working on disassembling the old chassis and bolting old parts on it to just roll it out when the time comes. While the rearend is out we will have the axle tubes welded by someone with more skills than I. I will weld the swaybar brackets on and also weld in a -6 bung for a better vent. Then it will be powdercoated. This rear and Sam's are at the chemical dipper getting stripped right now.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/20130111_155748_429-1.jpg

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Just for kicks, here is a comparison of the rear wheels and tires we have been running compared to something close to original. 295/35-18 vs 185/75-14

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/20130111_151126_425-1.jpg

With the ABC Performance mini-tub kit you have to move the rear body mount brackets and ours were pretty bad anyway. Sure you can buy this repop for fair money, but that's not nearly as satisfying as building your own.

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Here's a picture of the trans coming out. Buying the lift last summer was one of the smartest things we've done!

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My lovely wife Deb working on drilling out the rivets on a couple of bumpers. One for our buddy Andy and one for our car. She's a worker and always valuable at the shop when she can make time.

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[tommycomfort]

I'm just throwing this picture in because it is just dead sexy!!! We were getting ready to install the stock LS3 intake. A Fast one would be cool but would require me to get another job and I don't really see time for that...

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/DSC08014-1.jpg

Mock-up block and heads with the F-body oil pan ready to drop in place so we can sort out the crossmember.

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Crossmember marked and ready to be cut.

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Crossmember cut and engine and trans together ready to check fitment.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/DSC08026-1.jpg

[73z-6sp]

dcfvgbhnjm

[tommycomfort]

Here's the panel I built with my dimple die thanks to Aaron (65_LS1_T56)!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/DSC08030-1.jpg

Engine and trans set with crossmember welded up. I forgot to get a picture before setting it...

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Cool picture from the inside of the crossmember. The nuts welded in there are for mounting the brake line.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/DSC08036-1.jpg

Just a view from the front.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/01/DSC08038-1.jpg

Pictures with more substance next time!

[tommycomfort]

Cool! The car keeps getting better and better!

Not to be a jackass but get some safety glasses on that girl! I've seen too many eye injuries to ever go without. Be safe!

Good point. We're normally really good about safety, but obviously she's ignoring the "shop rules".

[Ron S]

Dimple dies, and all those holes to save weight, man are we all in trouble.LOL

[71RS/SS396]

Holy crap Tom! I didn't realize the damage was so bad when you told me about the drive shaft incident. I guess the silver lining is you get to improve the car. Hey tell your Deb to talk to my Deb about actually working on the car, I can't get mine to get her hands dirty she just wants to be the driver LOL.

[tommycomfort]

Dimple dies, and all those holes to save weight, man are we all in trouble.LOL

Good one Ron! Although I care about how much things weigh, there is nothing on a diet about this Chevelle.

[tommycomfort]

Holy crap Tom! I didn't realize the damage was so bad when you told me about the drive shaft incident. I guess the silver lining is you get to improve the car. Hey tell your Deb to talk to my Deb about actually working on the car, I can't get mine to get her hands dirty she just wants to be the driver LOL.

The old frame was obviously still usable since we did Charlotte Goodguys with it along with a local road ralley before that. Bottom line is that we just can't leave well enough alone.

You're on your own with your Deb! Just be thankful she lets you wrench and enjoys driving too.

See you before long!

[1965_SS]

Hey Tom, everything with your new frame is coming along great! Couple of questions.
You say that the ABC kit requires you to move the rear body mount. Can you explain or show pics of how that will work when bolting it back to the body? Is is detailed in the ABC directions?
I was looking at my 65' rearend yesterday and was wondering if we can narrow them. The control arms mount pretty close the end of the axle flange. I was thinking at most maybe an inch narrower? What are your thoughts on that?
Thanks,
Todd

[tommycomfort]

Hey Tom, everything with your new frame is coming along great! Couple of questions.
You say that the ABC kit requires you to move the rear body mount. Can you explain or show pics of how that will work when bolting it back to the body? Is is detailed in the ABC directions?
I was looking at my 65' rearend yesterday and was wondering if we can narrow them. The control arms mount pretty close the end of the axle flange. I was thinking at most maybe an inch narrower? What are your thoughts on that?
Thanks,
Todd

Todd,
It's not in the ABC instructions (yet) but was explained pretty well by Tony and I will get a ton of pictures when we do the work.
I know what you mean about narrowing these rears. I am leaving mine alone and just changing the rear wheel back spacing, but on my son's 67 I think we're going to narrow it 1" per side. That is a little more doable with his rear because it is a 68-72 housing and already an inch wider than the 64-67 ones. The other thing is that the ABC kit comes with a weld on coilover bracket that goes on the inside of the original lower control arm mount so I think we can trim a little off of the original. We'll know more about that when we get to Sam's frame. I plan to run the DSE coilover lower mounts that came with their kit so nothing will change on our rear in the 66.
Did that help any? Reading back over it, it seems clear as mud... When the pictures come I think it will clear things up.

[1965_SS]

Todd,
It's not in the ABC instructions (yet) but was explained pretty well by Tony and I will get a ton of pictures when we do the work.
I know what you mean about narrowing these rears. I am leaving mine alone and just changing the rear wheel back spacing, but on my son's 67 I think we're going to narrow it 1" per side. That is a little more doable with his rear because it is a 68-72 housing and already an inch wider than the 64-67 ones. The other thing is that the ABC kit comes with a weld on coilover bracket that goes on the inside of the original lower control arm mount so I think we can trim a little off of the original. We'll know more about that when we get to Sam's frame. I plan to run the DSE coilover lower mounts that came with their kit so nothing will change on our rear in the 66.
Did that help any? Reading back over it, it seems clear as mud... When the pictures come I think it will clear things up.

Thanks for the info. Are you going to use the ABC top coilover cross bar/mount? If so are you going to have to use longer/shorter coilovers for that? I was wondering about that also. Lots of pics would be great as you move forward! I'm very interested in what you are doing here. Keep up the good work:twothumbs

[tommycomfort]

Thanks for the info. Are you going to use the ABC top coilover cross bar/mount? If so are you going to have to use longer/shorter coilovers for that? I was wondering about that also. Lots of pics would be great as you move forward! I'm very interested in what you are doing here. Keep up the good work:twothumbs

We are going to use the ABC coilover cross bar. We tacked it in for now, but once we test fit this under the body we will move it up at far as possilbe without touching the floor and tack it in there. Then we'll get an exact length for our new coilovers.

Thanks for the compliments, we love doing this kind of project, but time and money are always nipping at our heals.

[Yelcamino]

You're making nice progress there Tom! I'm starting to wonder why I turned my attention to the truck instead of getting my Chevelle up and running. Oh well. :)

[tommycomfort]

After cutting the back body mounts off the back the only bad one was the drivers side kickout, or the second from the front. This work was done a while ago but I am kind of proud of the way it went so I thought I would post some pictures of it. What we did was tack a crossbar in with a pre-drilled starter hole dead center on where the body mount goes. Then used the proper size hole saw to cut it out. The rest is self explanatory. I should have shot a couple more pictures, but I get wrapped up in what I'm doing and forget.
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[tommycomfort]

After all the slicing and dicing was done and everything was solidly tacked in place we flipped the frame over to make it easier to weld on the bottom. I really got a kick out of it being our version of the Roadster Shop's ad of Chris and Lynda Jacobs 66 Chevelle. Maybe I was just stir crazy at the shop, but it still makes me chuckle.

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Here's a good example of the ugly factory welds. I have been re-welding everything and with the help of the grinder making it all a little prettier.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/02/DSC08048_zps2e90d77b-1.jpg

Instead of using the bolt on brackets for the DSE rear anti-sway bar we fabricated these and welded them to the frame. I built four since Sam's frame will need the same thing. I don't even want to admit how long it took to make these, but find making the little stuff incredibly rewarding.
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We decided to use an original Convertible/El Camino crossmember with some modifications. I spent this morning before coming into work getting it to this point.
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[wiedemab]

Looking great! Keep up the good work.

I agree - -some of the little fab projects are the most fun/rewarding.......Little brackets and things that most people will never see or notice.

[csouth]

Nice work over ther Tom as always. Hey are you passing that old crossmember to Sam or getting rid of it? I was looking at the Summit kit for my 4L80E...

[tommycomfort]

Nice work over ther Tom as always. Hey are you passing that old crossmember to Sam or getting rid of it? I was looking at the Summit kit for my 4L80E...

I'll PM you my number and we can talk about. We may go with the ABC crossmember for Sam's car, or use another Elco/convertible one.

[tommycomfort]

Crossmember mount braces

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Bracing for the trans mount.

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Welded up and "complete"

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[coolwelder62]

Tom,Deb,Sam Look's outstanding.If you need any thing cut I have have a CNC plasma table.Just send me a drawing and I will cut your parts Probono.Scott Mock.

[tommycomfort]

Tom,Deb,Sam Look's outstanding.If you need any thing cut I have have a CNC plasma table.Just send me a drawing and I will cut your parts Probono.Scott Mock.

We'll definitely take you up on that at some point Scott. Thanks!

[Zanie]

Nice Work!!!

[tommycomfort]

You're making nice progress there Tom! I'm starting to wonder why I turned my attention to the truck instead of getting my Chevelle up and running. Oh well. :)

Come on Herb, you should have all kinds of time now that you're retired...


Nice Work!!!

Thanks Dan!

[Yelcamino]

Come on Herb, you should have all kinds of time now that you're retired...

Time isn't really the issue, but $$ is...

[tommycomfort]

So, we were thinking about all the events we've attended since getting the 66 on the road and all the great friends we've met. I think we could have paid off the house or bought a new Corvette, but we're all in agreement that what we do as a family is priceless!

2010
Midwest Muscle Car Challenge, Putnam, IN & Lawrenceville, IL
Chevellabration, Goodlettsville, TN
Motorstate Challenge, South Haven, MI
Goodguys, Columbus, OH
Day at the Strip, Lawrenceville, IL
Run Thru The Hills, Pigeon Forge, TN
SEMA/Optima Ultimate Streetcar Invitational, Las Vegas and Pahrump, NV

2011
Goodguys, Nashville, TN
Midwest Muscle Car Challenge, Putnam, IN & Lawrenceville, IL
Run To Music City, Nashville, TN
Chevellabration, Goodlettsville, TN
Motorstate Challenge, South Haven, MI
Goodguys, Columbus, OH
Day at the Strip, Lawrenceville, IL
Sandhills Open Road Challenge, NE
Run Thru The Hills, Pigeon Forge, TN
Goodguys, Indianapolis, IN
Goodguys, Charlotte, NC

2012
Feb 17-19 American Streetcar Series, Run To The Alamo, San Antonio, TX
March 22-24 On display at the Hotrod & Restoration show, Indianapolis, IN
April 6-8 American Streetcar Series, Run To The Shore, Millville, NJ
May 4-6 American Streetcar Series, Run To The Ole South, Kershaw, SC
May 18-20 GoodGuys Nashville, TN
June 7-9 Chevellabration Goodlettsville, TN
July 6-8 Goodguys Columbus, OH
July 13-15 Motorstate Challenge, South Haven, MI
Aug 9-11 Sandhills Open Road Challenge, Arnold, NE
Aug 24-26 Orange Cone Racing, Ohio Muscle Car Challenge, Solon, OH
Sep 21-23 GoodGuys Indianapolis, IN
Sep 28-30 American Streetcar Series, Run To The Hills, Pigeon Forge, TN
Oct 13&14 A Day at the Strip, Lawrenceville, IL
Oct 26-28 GoodGuys Charlotte, NC

2013 Tentative plan
April 19-21 DSE Southern Slam, Kershaw, SC
May 03-05 Orange cone racing auto-x in northeastern, Ohio
May 10-12 Heidts Performance Car Challenge, Joliet, IL
May 17-19 Goodguys Nashville, TN
May 25-26 Midwest MuscleCar Challenge, Lawrenceville, IL
June 21-23 Face-off at Road America, WI
July 05-07 Goodguys Des Moines, IA or Run to Music City, Nashville, TN
July 12-14 Goodguys Columbus, OH July 25-27 Motorstate Challenge, South Haven, MI
Aug 23-25 Ohio MuscleCar Challenge, Orange cone racing, Northeastern, OH
Sep 06-08 Holley LS fest, Bowling Green, KY
Sep 13-15 Run To The Hills, Pigeon Forge, TN
Sep 20-22 Goodguys Indy
Oct 25-27 Possibly Goodguys Charlotte, NC

[csouth]

That is one FULL schedule. I just got tired reading it. Looking forward to see the '66 in action this summer.

[BuddyP]

Wow that is a full schedule! How the heck do you do it??!

I should be attending (spectator) the Orange Cone auto-x since the In-Laws live on the south side of Aurora, OH.

And of course will be at Motorstate. Will try and make the trip to Heidts too.

[tommycomfort]

Wow that is a full schedule! How the heck do you do it??!

I should be attending (spectator) the Orange Cone auto-x since the In-Laws live on the south side of Aurora, OH.

And of course will be at Motorstate. Will try and make the trip to Heidts too.

Well, that is a good question Buddy. I'm not sure how we're pulling it off, but for now it's working and we're not going in debt to do it...
A couple of the dates this year will only be Deb and the kids while I'm playing part time Army guy. Sounds like we'll see you a handful of times this summer, looking forward to it!

[bbeaman1]

Tom, you have been an inspiration to us Chevelle owners. Thank you for taking the time to share and help. I know a project can be taxing enough, but you go above and beyond when you take the time to document, photograph and answer questions. You have a great attitude and on top of everything, you serve our country. Okay, enough of the build up as you know I am going to have a question for you after all that.

Instead of all the cutting, fabbing and welding, would it be better to purchase an aftermarket frame that already has the upgraded engineering? I made some inquiries about some upgrades on my frame and the fabricators said they would love to take my money, but I would be better off purchasing one of the frames already done from one of the aftermarket manufacturers. And if anyone is wondering, I don't work for or have any allegience to any of them. I was just wondering as you have become an authority in this area. Thanks again.

[tommycomfort]

Tom, you have been an inspiration to us Chevelle owners. Thank you for taking the time to share and help. I know a project can be taxing enough, but you go above and beyond when you take the time to document, photograph and answer questions. You have a great attitude and on top of everything, you serve our country. Okay, enough of the build up as you know I am going to have a question for you after all that.

Instead of all the cutting, fabbing and welding, would it be better to purchase an aftermarket frame that already has the upgraded engineering? I made some inquiries about some upgrades on my frame and the fabricators said they would love to take my money, but I would be better off purchasing one of the frames already done from one of the aftermarket manufacturers. And if anyone is wondering, I don't work for or have any allegience to any of them. I was just wondering as you have become an authority in this area. Thanks again.

Bradley,
Thanks for the kind words! We really just have a passion for what we're doing and enjoy sharing and getting feedback from folks like you. Not that we've won a stack of trophies or anything, but to us it is much more rewarding to see a guy driving down the road who gives us a thumbs up, or follows us until we stop for fuel just so he can take pictures of the cars. But, make no mistake, we all get overwhelmed on occasion and on certain occasions I have been known to cuss and throw wrenches across the shop floor and even yell at the wife and kids for things that are really my fault... :)

Good question on buying or modifying a chassis. Sadly I don't have a solid answer for you. For us there was absolutely no way to buy an aftermarket chassis without getting a loan (or selling the house) so it was just not going to happen. With that said, it also goes along with what I said when we went from the hodgepodge of suspension parts to the complete DSE package. The right answer was to do it all in the beginning, but wasn't possible at the time.
I do believe the A-body frame is a great platform that works well in stock form with aftermarket parts and can be modified like we're doing now to gain even more performance. The only thing we haven't tackled yet is getting a fatter tire up front but I think Scott Mock (coolwelder) has that market cornered. As far as parts and labor to make significant upgrades I don't know and would be afraid to look at our hours as things move incredibly slow using the "learn as we go" method. Another aspect is the reward of the smallest fabricated thing we did being noticed by one guy out of a hundred that looks at the car. Makes it all worth while (I think...).

[craigs73]

looking good tom.....cant wait to see more updates

[tommycomfort]

Still a long way to go, but I feel like we're close to being on the downhill side of this project.

The old frame finally came out. I have to admit it really looked funny with old suspension components bolted on to roll it.
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Drilled out spot welds on the passenger side trunk hinge brace. One side at a time for us.
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Old wheel tub cut out. Making that first cut was troubling considering that this car has all original floors, trunk, quarters, tubs, everything. Right or wrong, I manned up and hacked it out...
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When Deb and I left the shop/garage last night I was on cloud nine with the first tub permanently tacked in place. I have a lot to learn about this kind of work and really need to make a better template for the drivers side before cutting. But, by the time I add a little metal to this one and cover everything with seam sealer and lizard skin it will look great. ;-)
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[73z-6sp]

cfgvjh

[Ron S]

Still a long way to go, but I feel like we're close to being on the downhill side of this project.

The old frame finally came out. I have to admit it really looked funny with old suspension components bolted on to roll it.
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That thing kind of looks like a 98lbs weakling compared to what your doing now.LOL Those cars are really a good platform to start with, I still have a 65 GTO on my list of cars I want to do. As always great work Tom.

[tommycomfort]

UPS man left a couple of goodies on the porch today. I really don't think there is a better wheel that can be ordered with custom back spacing for the money than Vintage Wheel Works. Now I'm really getting excited!

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[GeoffP]

Looking good!

[1965_SS]

What's the size and backspacing? What size tire are you going to run?

[tommycomfort]

What's the size and backspacing? What size tire are you going to run?

18x11" 7.75" Back spacing. Going with a 335/30 which should have a 11.5" wheel, but it will have to do for now. We've been running the 295 on a 9.5" for a couple of years without trouble.

Our back spacing is a bit different than most since we're running a 68-72 rearend.

[srh3trinity]

A 335 on the Chevelle is going to look great. Your car already looked like it had more tire under it because of the stance. This is going to dial it up a notch. I always talk down TT2 wheels and many of the copycats, but the VWW's are the exception. That is a great looking wheel, especially with flat caps.

[1965_SS]

18x11" 7.75" Back spacing. Going with a 335/30 which should have a 11.5" wheel, but it will have to do for now. We've been running the 295 on a 9.5" for a couple of years without trouble.

Our back spacing is a bit different than most since we're running a 68-72 rearend.

Thanks.............that different rearend is the key, got it:twothumbs
The frame is looking great and the tubs you put in look really nice! Post some pics on how you reconnect the trunk hinge to the tub when you get there. Good job!

[coolwelder62]

Tom,Deb,Sam,The chevelle is going to be awesome.Can't wait see the finished product.

[brownz]

When Deb and I left the shop/garage last night I was on cloud nine with the first tub permanently tacked in place. I have a lot to learn about this kind of work and really need to make a better template for the drivers side before cutting. But, by the time I add a little metal to this one and cover everything with seam sealer and lizard skin it will look great. ;-)
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HAHA yeah the second tubs always goes better!

[GeoffP]

It looks good Tom. I needed to do mine this winter but just ran out of time between home chores and work. I'm anxious to see the car (and y'all too) at the 'Slam.

[tommycomfort]

Thanks.............that different rearend is the key, got it:twothumbs
The frame is looking great and the tubs you put in look really nice! Post some pics on how you reconnect the trunk hinge to the tub when you get there. Good job!

Here you go Todd! I was going to gusset both sides, but it is super sturdy with just the back side so we called it good.

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[droptop73]

That's coming along nicely! I look forward to seeing it in action this summer.

[Ron S]

WHAT!! no dimple dies used in the fabrication of the trunk lid supports. I for one am disappointed.LOL
Looks good, how long before the body humps the frame? Will it be ready for DSE's summer slam?

[blade]

Great build! I like how you have tackled all of the issues you have run into along the way and kept on going and improving the car as you go. All of this while working, raising a family and serving in the Gaurd, thank you!

[damannhw]

The frame is looking good Tom. You've now got me thinking about doing this while I have my frame out from under the car ! I need a second job :)

[tommycomfort]

WHAT!! no dimple dies used in the fabrication of the trunk lid supports. I for one am disappointed.LOL
Looks good, how long before the body humps the frame? Will it be ready for DSE's summer slam?

Aww man, I really considered doing dimple die holes, but didn't want you making fun of me. Maybe on the drivers side. lol

We're signed up for DSE's Southern Slam and would say that we're pretty much on schedule to make it. Still need to come up with the cash to powdercoat all the parts and also buy a 3" exhaust but I think I can sell some parts to cover that.

[tommycomfort]

Great build! I like how you have tackled all of the issues you have run into along the way and kept on going and improving the car as you go. All of this while working, raising a family and serving in the Gaurd, thank you!

Thanks Eddie, during one of these accidents or engine failures we might throw up our hands and call it done, but for now we're having way too much fun as a family to stop. Doing the National Guard thing has been my pleasure and just as important is that it provides hobby money!

[tommycomfort]

The frame is looking good Tom. You've now got me thinking about doing this while I have my frame out from under the car ! I need a second job :)

David, As much as we all love lots of tire, my suggestion would be to get that beautiful Tempest on the road and track and enjoy it for a while before slicing and dicing. Love that thing!

[tommycomfort]

Just figured I would post some picture updates. We've been making progress but not nearly as fast as we would like. I just need 28 hour days in order to make things happen! If all goes well the frame will come back out for final welding and grinding this weekend then weather depending it will get blasted on Tuesday and off to the sand blaster on Wednesday or Thursday. My powder coater has promised me he would get it in and out quick.

Sorry about the poor quality of pictures, I misplaced my normal camera so have been using my old one and my cell phone.

First picture is for Ron Schwarz. Dimple die to save some weight!

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Rearend freshly powder coated and ready for reassembly. When I painted it over ten years ago I used POR-15 and figured since it would not see much direct sunlight I didn't need to top coat it with something for UV protection. Wrong, it turned an ugly gray color before the car ever hit the streets. I then sealed it with "tie-coat" primer and did a poor job painting it gloss black. Figured this was a good time to chemically dip it, get the axle tubes professionally welded, weld on the anti-swaybar brackets, powder coat and replace the axle bearings and all the seals.

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Coilover brackets fabricated and tacked in place.

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I've been taking parts to the firehouse and cleaning them up. Lucky to have this job!

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New 335/30ZR18 KDW's arrived. Wow, they are huge!

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One of the final new things I think we need to buy for the winter project. The 2.5" Flowmaster kit served us well, but with the new Mast engine and added horsepower we figured this 3" stainless Magnaflow kit would flow a little better.

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[Ron S]

Dimples are so cool, unless they are on your butt of course.

[71RS/SS396]

Looking good Tom! Looks like there will be some midnight oil being burned to make it to Kershaw.

[GeoffP]

Get'er Done!!

[brownz]

Mount up those tires. I want to see how the 335's look the 11in wheel. I should be getting my v-40 any day now and Im running the same size on my nova project.

I like the coil over mount nice work!

[csouth]

I see you're putting the welding classes to good use. Can't wait to see this back together.....

[Typhoon1015]

Looks great!

I have been following and drooling over the transformations over the years. I hope to see it in person sometime!

The 335's are going to looks killer.

[SparkyRnD]

awesome progress. Can't wait to see this and Deb's car in person!

[1coolC2]

Looking great Tom!! No time for sleep, get to work!! (plus you get plenty of sleep at the fire house lol). Hoping you get her done for DSE slam, still got room for you and Sam in Casa de' trailer!

R/
Jeff

[Auto Rod Technologies]

I've never been a big fan of the drilled rotors, i've seen a few sets that looked like those.

[craigs73]

Mount up those tires. I want to see how the 335's look the 11in wheel. I should be getting my v-40 any day now and Im running the same size on my nova project.

I like the coil over mount nice work!

heheheh i have seen them mounted :)

[tommycomfort]

Quick update during this wonderful Easter Sunday at the firehouse. We have been working hard trying to get the Chevelle done in time for DSE's Southern Slam in just under three weeks. If it is not ready it won't be from a lack of trying for sure. We just need to be smart enough to know when to make the decision that we won't make it on the 66 so we can switch over to getting the wagon ready.

Right now we're finishing up some body stuff while we wait for the frame to come back from the powder coater. He promised very fast turn around so we're crossing our fingers for the middle of this week...

Some modifications need to be made to the body mounts where the inner tubs go. Keep in mind, we're learning new "skills" as we go...

We bought new mounts, but decided to use the old ones since they were in perfect shape and they were going to be cut on anyway.
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Material added and welded up. Deb is a queen with the die grinder with 2" discs so it looks much better now.
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This picture just makes me happy. I can't wait to see these on the car! The guy at Tire Barn that mounts and balances all our stuff said "holy bread boxes, what are those going on?" Deb and I cracked up. No idea what bread boxes have to do with anything, but still funny.
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[coolwelder62]

Tom,Are those your new front tire's.

[73z-6sp]

uyviuyb

[72BBSwinger]

Wow Tom talk about winter project! Pullin out all the stops and really adding to your skill set it looks like. Congrats! And you have a hoist? That's not fair....

[tommycomfort]

Tom,Are those your new front tire's.

You're just rubbing it in Scott! ;-)

[tommycomfort]

Wow Tom talk about winter project! Pullin out all the stops and really adding to your skill set it looks like. Congrats! And you have a hoist? That's not fair....

Hey Emil, about a year ago I had hernia surgery and it has been a slow recovery to say the least. Until a couple of months ago it was painful getting up and down from a creeper. So, when we sold our 4x4 crawler/buggy thing we built we took that money and invested in a lift. Flat out awesome! Hopefully we can improve quality and capacity when we build the new shop.

[tommycomfort]

Dimples are so cool, unless they are on your butt of course.

Come on Ron, I'm only 43!


Looking good Tom! Looks like there will be some midnight oil being burned to make it to Kershaw.

That's an understatement Tim. We're going to try to be semi-smart about it and not let it ruin our spring. Either way, we have events every weekend in May so it has to get done ASAP...

[Motown 454]

I love the wheels and tires. They will look great on the car. Nice work.

[brownz]

The 335 looks good on the 11in wheel. maybe I could borrow them to see if they will fit in my nova tubs LOL

[tommycomfort]

Picked up the frame from the powder coater yesterday afternoon. We use Gale Enameling in Plainfield, Indiana. It's a one man show and he does mostly industrial stuff, but goes out of his way to make our stuff look amazing!

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The frame back in the garage/shop with the rearend set in place last night. Sam should be over there right now assembling the rear suspension components. Note how clean the transmission is. Purple power cleaner, water and a scrub brush go a long way on greasy aluminum parts. Also changed the color of the differential cover to match a bunch of other components on the car.

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And the big excitement! Our new JRi/DSE double adjustable, remote canister shocks showed up last week. Whew, just in time for chassis assembly! We've been running with the old DSE base line non-adjustable shocks since putting the Chevelle on the road in 2010 with great results but now will have to be come smart on fine tuning them.

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[analyte]

Looks great!! Seems like Sam is getting some experienced coil overs for his 67. A Win-Win!!

[1965_SS]

Hey Tom, everything looks great! Thanks for posting the pics on how that rear body mount gets moved. I noticed you didn't use or changed the upper shock mount from the one that comes with the kit. Can you explain why you did that or what led you to change that? You're using a stock length 68-72 12 bolt, right? For the shock mounts on the rearend housing did you keep the stock mount along with the DSE mount? Lastly, do you have to order special length shocks/coil overs after you do this since you changed the top shock location? I can't wait to see more pics! Everything you've posted will help me out a lot!
Thanks

[coolwelder62]

Picked up the frame from the powder coater yesterday afternoon. We use Gale Enameling in Plainfield, Indiana. It's a one man show and he does mostly industrial stuff, but goes out of his way to make our stuff look amazing!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/04/DSC06523_zps86fd2eaf-1.jpg

The frame back in the garage/shop with the rearend set in place last night. Sam should be over there right now assembling the rear suspension components. Note how clean the transmission is. Purple power cleaner, water and a scrub brush go a long way on greasy aluminum parts. Also changed the color of the differential cover to match a bunch of other components on the car.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/04/DSC06526_zpsa22dac5d-1.jpg

And the big excitement! Our new JRi/DSE double adjustable, remote canister shocks showed up last week. Whew, just in time for chassis assembly! We've been running with the old DSE base line non-adjustable shocks since putting the Chevelle on the road in 2010 with great results but now will have to be come smart on fine tuning them.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2013/04/DSC06540_zps8480fff5-1.jpgTom,Deb,Sam those are the Bomb.Just keep makin it harder to keep up with you.LOL!!!!!!! Congrat's on some Awesome Shock's.

[dusterbd13]

looking good, tom.
you still have that field full of chevelles? parting any of them out?
and since your car currently has no frame, are you still planning on hitting the southern slam?

[tommycomfort]

looking good, tom.
you still have that field full of chevelles? parting any of them out?
and since your car currently has no frame, are you still planning on hitting the southern slam?

Hey Michael, We do still have 20 or so 64-67 Chevelles, El Caminos and a wagon. Haven't picked any up in quite a while and the one we have are fairly well picked over, but if you need something let me know and I will take a look.

We haven't given up on making the Southern Slam with the car yet. I'm getting ready to post an update, but bottom line, we should be setting the body back on the chassis today. Chassis is rolling and has the engine and trans already set. Cross your fingers...

[tommycomfort]

OK, here's a few pictures to update. Things are moving pretty fast now so I need to get better about updating the thread every night. Of course I forgot the camera at the shop last night...

So, we prepped the complete underside of the car by scrubbing it with Purple Power degreaser and water, then scrubbed it with red scotch brite pads and Ajax, rinsed it all again and finally used a waterborne wax and grease remover. We also used 80 grit to completely scuff all the bare steel for good adhesion. From there we spent what seemed like forever masking everything on the car and covering anything of value in the shop. Keep in mind that we have nearly no experience with this kind of work so we leaned on some buddies with paint and body experience along with doing research on the internet. Bottom line, we started with Souther Polyurethane's black Epoxy Primer waited over night and then seamed sealed everything new, waited again, spayed all the new metal with sound control Lizard Skin. After letting that dry for about a day and a half we painted the underside and the inside of the trunk with a single stage satin black. Deb and I have learned a ton and are thrilled with the result.

The chassis is nearly completely back together and should be mating up with the body later this afternoon. What are we, 8 days from DSE's Southern Slam? I think we can still make it...

Epoxy primed
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Lizard Skin in the trunk
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Deb posing with the torque wrench. She was actually using it a little earlier.
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[andrewb70]

You guys making great progress!!!

If I wasn't 450 miles away, I would come up and give you a hand.

Andrew

[tommycomfort]

You guys making great progress!!!

If I wasn't 450 miles away, I would come up and give you a hand.

Andrew

Aw come on Andrew, what's 450 miles between friends? lol Actually we made great progress today and the body is back on the frame. I will post more updates once the upgrades have been made to the site.

[csouth]

Tom,

This car just keep getting better. Deb's looking ASE certified over there...lol

[dusterbd13]

Hey Michael, We do still have 20 or so 64-67 Chevelles, El Caminos and a wagon. Haven't picked any up in quite a while and the one we have are fairly well picked over, but if you need something let me know and I will take a look.

We haven't given up on making the Southern Slam with the car yet. I'm getting ready to post an update, but bottom line, we should be setting the body back on the chassis today. Chassis is rolling and has the engine and trans already set. Cross your fingers...

im actually looking for a wierd rust repair part for my 64 el camino. should be the same on the chevelle...
the inner door pillar by the front on the drivers side on mine is rotted through from leaks around the spotlight. primarily the curve from the rocker panel to the dome light switch, from the kick panel to the outer fender. im figuring if i can find a cheap enough slid one, it would be a lot easier than trying to fabricate one.

my other thing id like to find is a decent spare frame to sandblast, seam weld, reinforce, paint, and slide under mine. i have a solid frame, just not the room to completely tear it out and do this. so id have to build and swap.

and the updates look good. ill say a prayer for you guys.

[tommycomfort]

Quick update before I head out of town for the weekend. Clearly I don't have time to be taking time off of this project, but sometimes my jobs don't fit into my hobby schedule.

Chassis coming together. Really just wanted to show off the 335's
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Sam working on the Vintage Air Front Runner system.
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Front Runner installed.
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The lift is a life saver. We've taken more bodies off of Chevelles than I can count without the lift, but it sure saves time.
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Lots of tire.
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Still a long way off, but Sam and Deb will be working on it all weekend to get us closer.

[1965_SS]

LOOKS GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!:headbang:
Keep the pics coming:drool:

Read below, I think you missed it.


Hey Tom, everything looks great! Thanks for posting the pics on how that rear body mount gets moved. I noticed you didn't use or changed the upper shock mount from the one that comes with the kit. Can you explain why you did that or what led you to change that? You're using a stock length 68-72 12 bolt, right? For the shock mounts on the rearend housing did you keep the stock mount along with the DSE mount? Lastly, do you have to order special length shocks/coil overs after you do this since you changed the top shock location? I can't wait to see more pics! Everything you've posted will help me out a lot!
Thanks

[BuddyP]

Wow, fantastic looking chassis Tom! Wish I could've built mine in a week! You guys have done a great job. Looking forward to seeing it up close and personal. Did you consider the BFG Rival when you purchased the KDW2's?

Still going to the autocross in Aurora, OH?

[craigs73]

well tom you done something i didnt think you could.......you made the car look even better!!!! that rear shot of the fatties on the back made it all worth it im sure lol

[GeoffP]

Wow - it really looks great with the bigger wheels and tires on the back. I know you have got to be getting excited! I hope you guys can make it with the Chevelle next weekend! Be sure to bring plenty of towels because I feel sure it's going to get lots of drool on it from all the admirers!

[Ron S]

There is nothing cooler then big tars.

[72BBSwinger]

Agreed.

[Jetfixr320]

Looks great!

[bmbrzmn101]

Tom, great car!! I have enjoyed reading through the updates and what you and your family have done to your cars. I would like to ask about the ABC performance frame kit you used. How was the install and were the instructions easy to understand? I am planning on using the kit on my 67 elky to run 335's out back also.

Thanks, Chris

[musclecarmatt]

wow!....I haven't been on the forum in few weeks....and finally caught up with the thread....its looks simply badass...with new mast motor and suspension upgrades it going be a whole different animal :).........I been busting my butt on my Camaro with improvements as well....I should be at southern slam Saturday morning...wont be running my car but I will drive it up there since its only 50 miles from my house....hope see you there...

Matt

[Motown 454]

Frame looks great nice work.

[tommycomfort]

LOOKS GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!:headbang:
Keep the pics coming:drool:

Read below, I think you missed it.


Hey Tom, everything looks great! Thanks for posting the pics on how that rear body mount gets moved. I noticed you didn't use or changed the upper shock mount from the one that comes with the kit. Can you explain why you did that or what led you to change that? You're using a stock length 68-72 12 bolt, right? For the shock mounts on the rearend housing did you keep the stock mount along with the DSE mount? Lastly, do you have to order special length shocks/coil overs after you do this since you changed the top shock location? I can't wait to see more pics! Everything you've posted will help me out a lot!
Thanks

Todd,
I actually saw it and had planned to get back to it but of course ended up side tracked...

We did fabricate the upper shock mount slightly different than the one provided by ABC. I wanted to use the stock length DSE coilovers along with the bolt on lower mount on our 68-72 rearend (same mounts as a 64-67). To do that we needed to make sure we built the upper mount as high as possible. I talked to Tony at ABC and agreed that my plan was doable. The only change from the DSE coilovers is that we mounted ours at a slightly greater angle.

Hope that helps some.

[HectorM52]

No update! We're "nicking" out here in cyberspace with 3 days and 0 updates! :)

[tommycomfort]

Wow, fantastic looking chassis Tom! Wish I could've built mine in a week! You guys have done a great job. Looking forward to seeing it up close and personal. Did you consider the BFG Rival when you purchased the KDW2's?

The BFG Rivals are on the list of things to switch to over the summer. Our sizes weren't available yet, so running last years Comp-2's up front and a new set of KDW's in the rear will get us through a few events.

[tommycomfort]

No update! We're "nicking" out here in cyberspace with 3 days and 0 updates! :)

Sorry Adam, no pictures yet. The three page punch list is shortening but still substantial. I had National Guard training Friday thru Sunday and am at the firehouse today for 24 hours. It's killing me! Deb, Sam and Kaytlin put in over eight hours on Saturday and really made some headway too.

The biggest hurdle I see is the exhaust. Since I don't have the ability to TIG up a custom stainless system I might have to do one in mild steel and have it coated later. Either way, the Magnaflow kit won't be a "direct fit" and time is running out...

[GeoffP]

Tom,

What's the difference in the 68-72 rear axle vs. the earlier one? I'm assuming width - is there a benefit to running the later axle?

You've got me wanting a 66-67 Chevelle! My brother always had Chevelle's so it's pretty natural anyway - he never had anything older than a 68 though. Are you still on track to make it this weekend? Surely you have to be getting close to fire up within the next day or two?

[Bad94]

The biggest hurdle I see is the exhaust. Since I don't have the ability to TIG up a custom stainless system I might have to do one in mild steel and have it coated later. Either way, the Magnaflow kit won't be a "direct fit" and time is running out...


You can do it!

[tommycomfort]

Tom,

What's the difference in the 68-72 rear axle vs. the earlier one? I'm assuming width - is there a benefit to running the later axle?

You've got me wanting a 66-67 Chevelle! My brother always had Chevelle's so it's pretty natural anyway - he never had anything older than a 68 though. Are you still on track to make it this weekend? Surely you have to be getting close to fire up within the next day or two?

The only difference is that the 68-72 is 1/2" wider on each side. No advantage other than the later ones are slightly less expensive and if you're ordering wheels with custom backspacing it is no issue.

We're still planning on the making it with the 66, but I guess if we hit a major road block we'll thrash to get the wagon ready and just go and have a blast with the long roof. If we're not starting the 66 tomorrow afternoon it should be first thing Wednesday. Cross your fingers!

[GeoffP]

Fingers and toes Tom!!! I'll keep em crossed until I hear it fired up!!

[Yelcamino]

I have the utmost confidence in Team Farrington's ability to get things done! You'll make it and look good doing it!

[tommycomfort]

Fingers and toes Tom!!! I'll keep em crossed until I hear it fired up!!


I have the utmost confidence in Team Farrington's ability to get things done! You'll make it and look good doing it!

Thanks Herb and Geoff, we appreciate the backing of all our friends!

[HectorM52]

Sorry Adam, no pictures yet. The three page punch list is shortening but still substantial. I had National Guard training Friday thru Sunday and am at the firehouse today for 24 hours. It's killing me! Deb, Sam and Kaytlin put in over eight hours on Saturday and really made some headway too.

The biggest hurdle I see is the exhaust. Since I don't have the ability to TIG up a custom stainless system I might have to do one in mild steel and have it coated later. Either way, the Magnaflow kit won't be a "direct fit" and time is running out...

No doubt, I'm itching to work on it from here! Can't imagine being that close and not being able to be there!!

[72BBSwinger]

I wouldnt hesitate to mig that stainless exhaust up since thats what I did lol! It will work fine trust me. I also VHT Flame painted it black when I was done.

[1965_SS]

Thanks for the reply. I figured you were really busy trying to get this awesome car done!!! I would be doing the same if I was that close:twothumbs
Car is amazing and I hope to do my chassis this year. Your pictures will help a ton!
So far I've sourced a 67' El Camino frame along with a 68-72 12 bolt rearend like yours. I will have to cut a few inches off the back of the frame to fit it, but at least the main rails are already boxed:cheers:


Todd,
I actually saw it and had planned to get back to it but of course ended up side tracked...

We did fabricate the upper shock mount slightly different than the one provided by ABC. I wanted to use the stock length DSE coilovers along with the bolt on lower mount on our 68-72 rearend (same mounts as a 64-67). To do that we needed to make sure we built the upper mount as high as possible. I talked to Tony at ABC and agreed that my plan was doable. The only change from the DSE coilovers is that we mounted ours at a slightly greater angle.

Hope that helps some.

[tommycomfort]

Quick update since we are in the truck heading down to South Carolina with the 66 on the trailer and I have already burned up too many data minutes on my phone. Bottom line, with the help of Aaron Oberle (65_LS1_T56) the car is running and with the exception of a few minor adjustments ready to go. Aaron had planned to ride down to SC with us for the event, but as luck would have it he was in town for work and has been helping us since Wednesday around noon. Not to be over-dramatic, but there is no way we would have buttoned it up without him!

At 3:30 yesterday we had the car to Mike Norris for a quick dyno tune. It had yet to be started since the new program hadn't been loaded yet. Mike said it would be fine so we started it and backed it off the trailer. Mike proceeded to do a quick burnout in the sealcoat parking lot just to make me nervous. He's a card! We were keeping Mike from a dinner date with his wife, but he and Bruce Raymond bent over backwards to get us taken care of. Mike says there is more to be had, but it did make 500 HP and 495 Torque at the wheels and sounds mean.

We finally left our garage/shop at 9PM after getting packed up. Wow what a thrash!!!

Thanks for everyone's moral support!

Right now we're about 2:30 out from Kershaw, South Carolina. I'll update on the trip home.

Aaron and I.
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Loading at our shop to head to the dyno.
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On the dyno!
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Leaving the house. It rained in biblical proportions while we loaded the car. GRRRR I'll explain the dent later...
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[andrewb70]

The Farrington team FTW!

Nicely done.

Andrew

[Yelcamino]

"500 HP and 495 Torque at the wheels and sounds mean"

Awesome! Congrats and don't worry about the dent too much, shxt happens as they say.

[1965_SS]

You have video of the dyno session:poke:

Good job guys. I bet you are dying to drive it with the new chassis!

[BuddyP]

Car looks mean! Also a nice number out of the motor! Good luck this weekend and keep us up to date.

[HectorM52]

Ouch, not good on the dent. Just put a band-aid on it - it worked for Yancy!! :)

Glad you guys made it, though I'm sad I won't be there for its debut. My 10-day-old baby takes precedence (per my wife).

Good luck!!!

[coolwelder62]

Congrat's team Farington.You guy's are my Hero's.

[tommycomfort]

Well, we're on our way home from the DSE Southern Slam with smiles on our faces. The car worked incredibly well! We told ourselves we would really take it easy and just break in the new engine and get a feel for the stiffened frame, new shocks and wider wheels and tires. At one time I said I would only drive at 60% and another time I might have said 80% but that all might have gone out the window during the day. I will say that we never turned over 6300 rpm's and kept it under 123 mph... I drove two sessions and Sam drove three. It doesn't phase me at all to say he had a faster lap time than me.

With so many changes things could have easily been an absolute mess and taken most of the year to get sorted out but I am pleased to report that we got "lucky" and everything is working in harmony. Actually, so well that we're not sure what to start dialing in first. Probably just continue to run it until something really presents itself. Sam and I both agreed the car was super well balanced and everyone that rode with us said the same.

It's just seems unreal that just over two weeks ago we brought home the freshly powdercoated frame. What were we thinking!....

This is Sam coming in from a session. It really shows the width of the rear tires!
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[bmbrzmn101]

Congrats guys, she is a beautiful car. What were the major differences you can think of between the old setup and this one with relation to the wider rear tires? Did the car feel more solid going into the turns?

Chris

[Bad94]

It doesn't phase me at all to say he had a faster lap time than me.

Now you know by what I tell you "I just want to be faster then sam."

[eric1967]

Great job guys. Glad to here things went well.

[dontlifttoshift]

Awesome!

[GeoffP]

Tom you guys did an excellent job - the car looked great in person! I hoped for a ridealong sometime during the weekend but I know we were both busy! I'm stoked to hear that it was working so well (mine did too!). It was great to see you and Sam again. Y'all be careful going home!

[Yelcamino]

Glad to hear you guys had a great time and the that the updates are working for you!

[Wiedo]

Glad to hear all went well. Sounds like a great weekend.

[tommycomfort]

I wouldnt hesitate to mig that stainless exhaust up since thats what I did lol! It will work fine trust me. I also VHT Flame painted it black when I was done.

Hey Emil, this statement really helped out a lot. I did some research after reading it and then most importantly tried it. It worked great! Thanks.