Underbody paint question

[Thumpin'66]

I really need some help deciding what paint to use on the underside of my car. It has a layer of Lizard Skin Ceramic on it and I want to seal it up with something semi-gloss black. I am torn between using Wurth underbody seal black or just regular paint. Please help with specific brand and product info so I can order some paint and move on with my project.

[Second Skin Rep]

You can always call up Lizard skin and ask them for some pigment?
If you still have some Lizard skin left over I can send you a water based carbon black pigment to turn the LS black.
This is the same pigment we use in Firewall, our ceramic coating to make it grey or black.

Then all you do is mix the black with the the ceramic coating you have left over, the apply another coating on top of the white coating you already have and you are golden!

Send me an email and I'll get some black out to you, no charge.
[email protected]

ANT

[Thumpin'66]

I appreciate the offer but I dont think pigment is my concern. My LS is not white, it is the dark grey. It was supposed to be ceramic not sound deadener. Did I get the wrong stuff?
The Lizard Skin doesn't seem like it will keep moisture out. I had some sanding water drizzle down on it and it sucked it up leaving a white stain and it willl not come clean. I want to seal it up with something else but don't know what to use. I was looking at the Worth underseal because it is a plastic/rubber base and is an actual sealer. I guess regular black paint will work to but I am a rookie so I do not know what to buy. I have a nice air compressor so I can spray. I plan to drop the frame back out from under the car to re-coat the underside. It would be nice to find a paint that I can also spray the floor on the interior of the car. I thought SKS stoneguard or Zylotone would work well in the trunk.

[mc84_zz4]

I highly recommend the Eastwood products, they even have a chasis black that is brake fluid resistant.
Their stuff is tops IMO.
They have many of their products in a spray can already, or buy it in quarts and spray with your own gear.
www.eastwood.com
Their stuff is not the cheapest, but you only have to do it once. No disappointments here.

[Thumpin'66]

I already have a quart of Eastwood 2k Ceramic Chassis black but am not sure about laying it on top of the Lizard Skin underneath the car. I think it will be fine for inside the car on the epoxy primed floor pan though.

I used Eastwood underhood black on my firewall and really like it.

[Second Skin Rep]

I appreciate the offer but I dont think pigment is my concern. My LS is not white, it is the dark grey. It was supposed to be ceramic not sound deadener. Did I get the wrong stuff?
The Lizard Skin doesn't seem like it will keep moisture out. I had some sanding water drizzle down on it and it sucked it up leaving a white stain and it willl not come clean. I want to seal it up with something else but don't know what to use. I was looking at the Worth underseal because it is a plastic/rubber base and is an actual sealer. I guess regular black paint will work to but I am a rookie so I do not know what to buy. I have a nice air compressor so I can spray. I plan to drop the frame back out from under the car to re-coat the underside. It would be nice to find a paint that I can also spray the floor on the interior of the car. I thought SKS stoneguard or Zylotone would work well in the trunk.

The water stain is due to the latex to iller ratio of the product. IF they use any mineral filler at all, it can soak up any moisture that comes in contact with it.
I think applying the wurth coating, or eastwood coating on top of the Lizard skin would be a good idea.
Remember though. You need to wait at least 30 days for the lizard skin to cure. If you apply a water tight coating on top of it without allowing for it to fully cure, the new coating will trap moisture in the old coating and could promote rust.

Hope that helps!
ANT

[The WidowMaker]

ant, not to get off topic, but do your products turn white? how well does spectrum hold its color?

thanks, tim

[Second Skin Rep]

ant, not to get off topic, but do your products turn white? how well does spectrum hold its color?

thanks, tim


Hey Tim
Sorry it took me so long to get to this reply.

Our coatins do not turn white at all
This usully happens with epoy coatings or SBR coatings.
They can turn yellow when subjected to UV.
Sometimes a comapny will load up so much mineral filler in the coaitng (to save money) that when it gets scratched, the filler chalks up, too much abrasion and the entire coating is chalky and white/grey.
We keep our filler count low enough to prevent chaling, and we also use 2 types of black pigment to dye the coating. Iron oxide and Carbon black.
Hope that helps!

ANT