LS3 Accessories

[NVR2L8]

Just picked up an LS3 without any accessories bolted on. The enegine will be going into a 69 Camaro...big surprise, right.
Need to know what location is needed (best) for the Alternator and a good source to order everything in one shot. This would include all pulleys, water pump, harmonic balancer power steering pump, etc
Thanks for the help.

[joejaze]

I left most of my accessories in the stock locations with stock pulleys except for the AC compressor.

http://www.crateenginedepot.com/store/Accessory-Drive-with-air-LS2LS3LS7-19155067-P1735C0.aspx

http://hotrodlane.cc/

[b-man]

I bought the same GM P/N 19155067 C6 Corvette accessory package linked in the above post for my LS3 crate engine, but I bought it for a lower price here: http://www.sdparts.com/product/19155067/ACSRYDRV.aspx

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/19155067_ins-1.jpg

You'll also have to buy the correct damper (harmonic balancer) so the belts will line up (P/N 12620556) as it doesn't come with the accessory drive kit. My LS3 crate engine already had the correct damper on it since it's a C6 Corvette replacement engine.

To move the A/C compressor to a better and more serviceable location and at the same time avoid notching the front crossmember to make it fit I bought these A/C compressor relocation brackets:
http://www.kwikperf.com/lsx_ac.html

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/ad2y_iso6engine360x270-1.jpg

Keep in mind that you're expected to use a Sanden compressor instead of the one from GM. You'll also need a single serpentine belt that is used instead of the two belts supplied in the GM accessory drive setup, Gates P/N K061010 (13/16" X 101-5/8").

[joejaze]

To move the A/C compressor to a better and more serviceable location and at the same time avoid notching the front crossmember to make it fit I bought these A/C compressor relocation brackets:
http://www.kwikperf.com/lsx_ac.html

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/ad2y_iso6engine360x270-1.jpg

Keep in mind that you're expected to use a Sanden compressor instead of the one from GM. You'll also need a single serpentine belt that is used instead of the two belts supplied in the GM accessory drive setup, Gates P/N K061010 (13/16" X 101-5/8").

This is the same bracket that I used on mine.

[formula]

Another alternative, if you're willing to notch the frame, is f-body components--at least, I think these still work on ls3's?

Not positive as I went with the corvette setup, even though f-body setups are a very-tight-fight-but-no-notching sort of deal on 2nd gens.

(another angle on the corvette setup, to give you an idea of how it looks in a car) (ok maybe I just wanted to show it off a little)
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[ProdigyCustoms]

My favorite LS set up is Wegner. They are more money then the GMPP stuff, but are engineered for high RPMs and great clearance of all subframes. We have them ready to ship

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[Mkelcy]

I bought the same GM P/N 19155067 C6 Corvette accessory package linked in the above post for my LS3 crate engine, but I bought it for a lower price here: http://www.sdparts.com/product/19155067/ACSRYDRV.aspx

To move the A/C compressor to a better and more serviceable location and at the same time avoid notching the front crossmember to make it fit I bought these A/C compressor relocation brackets:
http://www.kwikperf.com/lsx_ac.html

Keep in mind that you're expected to use a Sanden compressor instead of the one from GM. You'll also need a single serpentine belt that is used instead of the two belts supplied in the GM accessory drive setup, Gates P/N K061010 (13/16" X 101-5/8").

This is pretty much the route I'm taking, except I ordered the accessory kit without air because I was replacing the AC bracket and compressor. The accessory kit without air is around $500 or so.

[b-man]

This is pretty much the route I'm taking, except I ordered the accessory kit without air because I was replacing the AC bracket and compressor. The accessory kit without air is around $500 or so.I wish I'd have gone that route, now I have a compressor, bracket, tensioner and 2 belts that I can't use.

Live and learn.

[formula]

My favorite LS set up is Wegner. They are more money then the GMPP stuff, but are engineered for high RPMs and great clearance of all subframes. We have them ready to ship




hot damn! that looks awesome.

[NVR2L8]

Thank You all for responding.
Frank, What's your kit going for? Minus the A/C set-up. I'm not planning on running A/C in the car.

Forgot to ask about the correct style of Oil Pan to purchase as wel.
Hows this one?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360164360444&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

[b-man]

I chose the Autokraft pan, also sold under another brand name that I can't recall. It's priced at $399.95 right now.

It fits along with the Edelbrock engine mount adapter plates and headers I'm using.

Made for the '64 -72 A-body cars and '67 -'69 F-body cars and doesn't require the use of a remote oil filter if that matters to you.

http://www.autokraft.org/products/

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/06/DSC02753-1.jpg

[BonzoHansen]

My favorite LS set up is Wegner. They are more money then the GMPP stuff, but are engineered for high RPMs and great clearance of all subframes. We have them ready to ship


How is that compared to the VA front runner setup?

[NVR2L8]

My favorite LS set up is Wegner. They are more money then the GMPP stuff, but are engineered for high RPMs and great clearance of all subframes. We have them ready to ship

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

Frank,
Can I get a price quote on this package?
Thanks Marc

[NVR2L8]

Ttt

[hifi875]

will a balancer w/ part number 594271 which i am told is a corvette ls1, ls6 part go with the gm serpentine accessory drive part number#19155167 which is a corvette style system w/out air. i am using the vintage air bracket.

[NVR2L8]

Frank,
Hoping to hear back on a price for that Wegner set-up.
Thanks Marc

[ProdigyCustoms]

The Alternator / PS system with no A/C is $1550

[ProdigyCustoms]

How is that compared to the VA front runner setup?

The Vintage Air set up is a awesome kit. I think the Wegner Kit is a better high RPM unit.

We sell both.

[BonzoHansen]

Thanks Frank.

What defines 'high RPM' - over 7000? 6500+? Prolonged use over 5000? Just curious.

[ProdigyCustoms]

In Wegners world high RPM is 8000+ but even for use to 6500 which is easy to do these are the best out there. WAlthough, I know the VA units run to 7000 quite often so by no means am I saying they wont take RPMS

Personally for the price and looks, I prefer the Wegner

[BonzoHansen]

Thanks for the reply Frank.

[meenaggie]

Frank - I have the Wegner kit pictured on my LS2 that is going into my 68 camaro. I mounted the PS pump in the high position becuase I thought it would provide better clearance but there is much less belt contact. Have you put this package in a 1st gen camaro with the PS pump in the low position as pictured? Thanks! I can't wait to get it in the car, awesome looks and quality. I think this product line should do well for you. Casey Wegner is also first class so that helps too. Check the thread below for a picture.

https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54578

[ProdigyCustoms]

The Bull Run Racer being a A Body, front steer car, we were still able to run the PS Pump in the low position, however we did use a remote reservoir pump.
I have not physicaly installed one in a Camaro yet (have a couple coming up) but I see no reason why a rear steer car would not clear if a front steer car does. No steering box in the way.

[MCMLXIX]

The Alternator / PS system with no A/C is $1550

Frank,
Whats the cost with the AC setup? How does that compare price wise to the Frontrunner from Vintage Air? Does the Wegner system come with that waterpump with the neck welded in?

Do you have any more pics? A little further back and different angles? Maybe installed in a car?

I was thinking I would be going with the Vintage Air Frontrunner but I'm always open to new ideas... Mezier makes an electric waterpump for LS engines, do you know of anyone that makes a accessory system that uses the electric waterpump?

[ProdigyCustoms]

$2000 with A/C in natural, $100 more for black.

Here is one installed in the Bull Run Racer

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Our bull Run Racer Engine when we got it. They were short a couple black pulleys, we were in a hurry, so we changed a couple pulleys to make it all black, but you get the idea.

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And here is another on one of Wegners SuperCharge engines

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[ProdigyCustoms]

Frank,
. Mezier makes an electric waterpump for LS engines, do you know of anyone that makes a accessory system that uses the electric waterpump?


Ask and you shall recieve.

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[MCMLXIX]

That it awesome...
Now if they would just stop using that old out dated kidney bean design for all the pulleys and use something more like this....
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/10/wheelsperformancecom_2070_40629993-1.jpg It would complete the updated look for the LS platform...

(yes, thats an HRE wheel.. but that would be the perfect design for the pulleys)

[rockytopper]

I offer a billet relocation bracket for the alt on the f-body and gto accessories. Some models like the a-body have clearance issues with the steering box. I don't beleive this is the case on the camaro thow.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/10/ls1altbrk-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/10/altkit-1.jpg

[MikkoV]

What is the wisest place to mount alternator?

2gen F-body, going to be with crate LS3, i dont need any other accessories than alt and water-pump.

[camaro2nv]

Billet Specialties tru track
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