Max Tire Size, Chevelle with 22'' rim

[turbodarryl]

Hey Guys, i want to run a 22X10'' wheel on the rear of my 70 chevelle with stock tubs, i need to know the tallest tire the will fit in the stock well while keeping the car at a low profile stance.

[1offwizard]

A 275/60-15 tire is 28" in diameter. A 295/30-22 is 29" in diameter. You might search and see how low people have gone with a 275/60-15 to give you a starting point. You will have to remember the 295/30-22 will be wider though.

[gionni]

another possibility is the 295/25 ZR22..

this dodge magnum have rear that dimension, and the diameter will fit on my road runner. so i think on your chevelle too...

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[turbodarryl]

Hey guys, i was thinking of a tire with a little more sidewall like the 285-35-22 its about 29.9'' tall, sect. width 11.2" what do u guys think of that dia. tire

[DriverzInc]

You can get away with the 295/30/22, but anything taller you are going to run in to problems. Trust me, we've done plenty of chevelle's, and custom fitment, and we know what will rub. A 30" tall tire, will rub without modifying the wheel tubs.

[jilge71]

anyone have pics of 22's on a 70-72 chevelle. i was goining to go with 20's in the rear but if that looks better who knows what will happen

[DriverzInc]

Brian at Intro did a 20/22 combo. Here are some photos:

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It's a little too much wheel for me, and too little tire, but to each his own. I've run that combo before on my Impala, and at that point, yes, they really are rubberband tires.

[buickfunnycar.com]

Brian at Intro did a 20/22 combo. Here are some photos:

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It's a little too much wheel for me, and too little tire, but to each his own. I've run that combo before on my Impala, and at that point, yes, they really are rubberband tires.

too much wheel,not enough tire.
been there,done that.

[Benoit23]

What wheels are these & who makes them?
I'm kind of digging them.

Does anyone got better pictures of them?



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[Chewy72ss]

I believe Budnik makes them. They are the "Mirage" wheels from the X-Series line.

[Boesch]

I believe Budnik makes them. They are the "Mirage" wheels from the X-Series line.

Correct.

http://www.budnik.com/roadwheelitem.asp?scid=53&pid=697&pg=4

[Boesch]

too much wheel,not enough tire.
been there,done that.

I'm with you on that one. I'd stay with 20's myself, but then again that's what makes the car hobby so great...everyone has their own opinion on what they think is cool.

[el-camino]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Revell-1-25-1970-Chevelle-SS-DONK-Stock-3n1-kit-2058_W0QQitemZ180174842676QQihZ008QQcategoryZ14595 4QQcmdZViewItem

:lmao::lmao:

[turbodarryl]

Yea Guys, i think im going to stick with the 20s'' also. i need a little more sidewall then the 22s will leave me with. So whats the largest 20 for the rear i should go with and what match for the front

[Never Enough]

anyone have pics of 22's on a 70-72 chevelle. i was goining to go with 20's in the rear but if that looks better who knows what will happen
A couple of pictures I took yesterday.

[Never Enough]

Another....

[darth_flavor]

big rims are cool, but only to the point to where it's TOO big. 22's are fine in the rear but they are way to big up front. personally i like a car to be lowered at least a little w/or w/o aftermarket wheels and those guys runnin 22's and bigger kinda make a car look goofy. having them that big all the way around is for a truck and they obviously have no idea how much better it could look with a small height adjustment (staggered stance preferably) and smaller wheels up front. that silver chevy a few posts back is one of the best set-ups i've seen. here's a few more pics.

here's an 18/20 combo (top), a foose chevelle (middle), and another ride (bottom):

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and this one on 22's all the way around is one of a few i sorta like:

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[darth_flavor]

and some more (not chevelles but same friggin body style):

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chevelle:

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[el-camino]

i think for the future the forum needs a new name.
not pro-touring
Donk-touring :moon:
allways bigger wheels and tires:yeah:

[darth_flavor]

i think for the future the forum needs a new name.
not pro-touring
Donk-touring :moon:
allways bigger wheels and tires:yeah:

hahahahaha, remember what i said about hatin? you haven't even done it yet and look.

all 22's isn't that bad IF and WHEN you lower it. you can't deny that green w/green wheels isn't above the level and personally i wouldn't do 22's on the front, but that car is great. a 20/22 & a 18/20 is a little smarter and just so you know, i didn't post donk pics. they may become that way eventually but i'm not even black and i know what a donk is:

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[el-camino]

22" and lowering is a reverse style of donk, looks like a
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with rubber-boots:hammer:

[68Formula]

Wow, looking at all these 20+, I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

Has anyone noticed the taller the tire, the skinner it looks, too?

[darth_flavor]

Wow, looking at all these 20+, I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

Has anyone noticed the taller the tire, the skinner it looks, too?

first of all man, how can you say anything to anyone about taste with "amc" in your screen name? i may be new here, but i know what looks good and what doesn't, haaaaaahahahaha. on that note, i know what kinda cars you like and to prove your wrong about the skinnyness factor, i dug you up some pics. enjoy (sorry to hijack your thread turbo):

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now i'm no genius but can you explain this? does that tire look skinny to you?:

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[Damn True]

Hey Darth, everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Mike said he dosen't dig 'em, you do. Cool, end of story.

But because the opinions differ does not mean one of you is wrong.

[gionni]

i find the 20/22 combo cool, but only when the car is very lowered...(with airride for ex.)...
with normal lowering (1-2") i find the best combo is 18/20 or 19/20...

[darth_flavor]

Hey Darth, everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Mike said he dosen't dig 'em, you do. Cool, end of story.

But because the opinions differ does not mean one of you is wrong.

understandable. i just try not to rain on anyone's parade when they are only asking for help.

[ssx]

i find the 20/22 combo cool, but only when the car is very lowered...(with airride for ex.)...
with normal lowering (1-2") i find the best combo is 18/20 or 19/20...
You hit the nail on the head. Stance is everything when it comes to making a car look good.

[InMotionJosh]

I am building my 70 chevelle with 20/22 and have a 295/25/22 on the rear. I think you can go with a 305/25/22 if you wanted as well. I just wanted to make sure i had enough clearance for when the air ride is deflated.

[steemin]

I can certainly appreciate all the different looks/styles in our hobby.
No disrespect intended.
Maybe it is just an age thing (I am 47).
I really don't care for anything over 20".
And IMHO cars that look good with 20's are few and far between. There are some on this site that make it work..:cool:
Not to stir the pot any further but I think it is like any other fad.
People will take it to the EXTREME and then eventually it gets reeled back in to reality..
Scott

[darth_flavor]

i'm not a fan of 22's up front but with having bags on this one, it doesn't look bad when parked. would be cool to have just the 22's up front for the show and then throw on some 20's for the trip or maybe even just put all the 15" cragers on that come with this car too.

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and since this car probably doesn't have matching numbers, it wouldn't hurt the value if someone tubbed the rear, set up a four link, cleared out the front and upgraded the suspension and brake set up so it could lay frame. would be pro-touring as well as a mild custom.

[LateNight72]

Hey Larry, can we rename the site, Show-Touring.com ? :sick: :barf:

[el-camino]

Hey Larry, can we rename the site, Show-Touring.com ? :sick: :barf:

great idea:spank2:

[LateNight72]

i'm not a fan of 22's up front but with having bags on this one, it doesn't look bad when parked. would be cool to have just the 22's up front for the show and then throw on some 20's for the trip or maybe even just put all the 15" cragers on that come with this car too.

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and since this car probably doesn't have matching numbers, it wouldn't hurt the value if someone tubbed the rear, set up a four link, cleared out the front and upgraded the suspension and brake set up so it could lay frame. would be pro-touring as well as a mild custom.

That car is NOT a Pro-Touring car.

Neither are the Cutlasses (Cutli?) on the first page, either.

[darth_flavor]

That car is NOT a Pro-Touring car.

Neither are the Cutlasses (Cutli?) on the first page, either.

no, it's not, but it easily could be and this thread is about wheels, not the classification of what you think your car fits in. i mean, people are transforming pro-stock which aren't pro-touring either but are more excepted as well, right? all this car needs now to be "pro-touring" is a some drive line upgrades and what i posted above with the addition of some discs. pro-touring is a step BELOW show meant to be driven, right? airbags means it rides like a cadillac which would be modern and to give it a little more, a four link would be needed along with top-shelf control arms and that's it. don't feel bad because with enough work in the right places a car can fit in to multiple categories with just a wheel change. if i bought this one, i could buy some 17" played out torque thrusts or use the 15" ones he has for sale with the car and a set of spokes and after doing the upgrades said, i'd have a pro-touring car one day, a lowrider the next, and then turn around and shut em down with a supposed donk a.k.a. showtopper the next. pro-touring just means updated, which a lot of custom cars obtain when built.

here's a car by member "AUTODYNAMICS". what's the difference in looks? the wheels? is that the only things that bothers you? wheels? i have multiple wheels for almost every car i own. so what.

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and it's called a "cutty" or "cut" if that's the slang you were looking for.

[quiksilvr]

Nice:twothumbs

[LateNight72]

...

[darth_flavor]

i knew what a p-t car was within 5 minutes of finding this website. that kind of car has been around since the first guy upgraded everything on his car (before rich people, there were gearheads who couldn't do anything but performance upgrades). there is nothing new man, people just rename stuff. the times change and new technology get's introduced and people think it's something new. thanks for trying to make me sound like i'm some tool, it's an honor. i've been hated since, mmmmm, i got my license and it's nothing new.

one more thing: so if i made a bad friggin car and just rolled on some rally wheels, would that suffice?, even though in my heart, i'd feel ashamed that i didn't do what i wanted because some square didn't like it?

and what's a homie-ass? you like guys butts or are you racist?


Nice

that's what i'm saying quik.

[LateNight72]

...

Agreed to disagree, i guess.

[slownova]

people either like it or they don't. i have 22x10s with a 285 tire on my 70. i wouldn't change it for anything...

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[gionni]

looks nice! and what for a tire-dimension? 285/30?

[InMotionJosh]

people either like it or they don't. i have 22x10s with a 285 tire on my 70. i wouldn't change it for anything...

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What size front tires and wheels you running? Also whats the details on your suspension?

[slownova]

im running all global west susp and the front tire size id have to go look. 235/35 maybe?

[InMotionJosh]

im running all global west susp and the front tire size id have to go look. 235/35 maybe?

Are you running coil springs or air ride is really what im looking for? And if you are running air ride are those pictures at ride height or fully deflated?

Here is a picture of my 70 Chassis, 20/22 and air ride all around.
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[slownova]

i have bags and shockwaves. but i got global west and b body spindles, unlike your strong arm set up. that was close to having the bags all the way deflated. with the bags all the way down, i can still drive it. have you test fit the 20s yet? do they move with it aired out?

[InMotionJosh]

I have the 20s mounted to the car but have not test fit them with the fenders on yet. When the car is aired up then back down they do not move much at all.

I am runing strong arm lowers but went with the SC&C adjustable uppers. I also am using the ball joints provided by SC&C for the uppers and lowers and was under the impression they would make the car sit lower as well..

Any pictures of your suspension?

[slownova]

im sure it will air down with them, but im not sure it will be able to roll. thats why i went with the 19s. that a 30 series sidewall? i don't have any pics sorry. why you go withthe sc&c uppers? i did another chevelle with 20s all around and the air-ride strong arm front end and it was a pretty nice kit.

[InMotionJosh]

im sure it will air down with them, but im not sure it will be able to roll. thats why i went with the 19s. that a 30 series sidewall? i don't have any pics sorry. why you go withthe sc&c uppers? i did another chevelle with 20s all around and the air-ride strong arm front end and it was a pretty nice kit.

I went with the SC&C uppers for the adjustability. I didnt wanna have a bunch of spacers and stuff for alignment.

I dont know off the top of my head but i either have a 245/30 or 245/35 up front on the 20s

[slownova]

cool car. hope it works. don't you work or do stuff for intro? we've talked before i think

[InMotionJosh]

No I dont work for or with intro.....There is a guy with a 69 Chevelle his name is Bryan and he works for intro. I think his name is Bryan at least. His car is the silver flamed one with 22s that was at SEMA if you have seen it.

[slownova]

ah. that could be it. awesome another chevelle with 22s! got any more pics?

[Boesch]

No I dont work for or with intro.....There is a guy with a 69 Chevelle his name is Bryan and he works for intro. I think his name is Bryan at least. His car is the silver flamed one with 22s that was at SEMA if you have seen it.

Bryan is the one who did the Silver Chevelle that was posted earlier in this thread. Bryan left Intro about a month ago.

Dustin

[InMotionJosh]

ah. that could be it. awesome another chevelle with 22s! got any more pics?
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[slownova]

i ment your car. that sucks bryan left.

[InMotionJosh]

No other pics of my car really. About to start making some big progress on it right now. My LS2 crate came last week, tranny being built now, cam going in tonight gonna get it all painted and dropped in then hardline the bags and brakes. The body is being sent out in the next couple weeks when i finish my trans tunnel, shaving the firewall and door handles.

[Orngcrush69]

Can't wait to see all of you on the track. Loved the shot of the 11" front rotors. :cool:

[The WidowMaker]

this is my dream setup. problem is they wont answer my emails, so i dont know the sizes or backspacing.

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[buickfunnycar.com]

Sorry tillmatic but every one of those pictures made me throw up a little in my mouth.To each his own but for me personally...those pics show what's wrong with this hobby:screwy: ...JMHO man.Take it for what it's worth...:usa:

[InMotionJosh]

Sorry tillmatic but every one of those pictures made me throw up a little in my mouth.To each his own but for me personally...those pics show what's wrong with this hobby:screwy: ...JMHO man.Take it for what it's worth...:usa:

I agree that none of those cars are done right. I like the oversized wheel look but only if the car is really low and they are tucked up in the fenders.

Here is a picture of my car with a 22 inch rear wheel.
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[BaddestBuick]

hey dub silverado, how many inches is that lip in the rear??

[buickfunnycar.com]

looks sweet dub silverado...:worship:

[kainzien]

Dub silverado, Whipass ride. Also, did you mini-tub the rear?

[rogue]

I'm sorry I'm going to have to draw the line here. If you're running 22"s on a "pro touring car" you no longer fit the bill. You've crossed the line from improving performance, to making your car stand out in a bling bling hip hop manner. You are basically creating what I would consider a Donk.

Donks:

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this coming from a guy that used to own a Chrysler 300c with 22s that was at SEMA 2006. You have your genre's all mixed up. Its your car build it how you want it, but it sure as hell isn't pro touring. Muscle cars with 22"s belong in Dub Magazine...

You won't find any of the cars with 22"s at the track, you won't find them performing, you'll find them cruising to car shows... You've built a lowrider not a protouring car.
Not a fan...

[slownova]

i'll take my chevelle with the 22s to the track whenever i want. with shockwaves, b body spindles i have no issues handling. its a great balence IMO. it isn't like a nascar, but it isn't a 76 impala on 26s either. but yes, ive been in dub magazine with mine twice, and rides a couple, also a few others. if its what people want to build so be it. its all pure opinion.

[1nkred1ble]

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soooooooooooooo
what was the largest size possible for a 70 chevelle?
and whats the best way to get that tuck look like on that picture on widow makers icon

[Tino]

Here's ours with 20's and 22's :)

[Tino]

Couple more.

[1nkred1ble]

wow that looks beautiful, whats the tire size combo for those wheels? is that your car??? what kind of wheels are those?

[mone]

That rear wheel is sick!!One of the best ones Ive seen on here IMO!!Are those KMC Novas?

[Tino]

KMC Nova's

[mone]

Are they 10 or 12 inches wide in the rear?

[Tino]

22x11

[mone]

Did you have to minitub the car to fit them?

[1nkred1ble]

did you use springs? how did you get the car stance so perfect?
what company makes those rims?
did you have to modify anything to fit the 22x11?

[Tino]

Stock wheel tubs and rear end lenght. The brand of wheel is KMC. Check them out at www.wheelpros.com (http://www.wheelpros.com) .

We use a complete air Air Ride Tech kit.

[1nkred1ble]

thanks alot, i appreciated it.

[JRouche]

LOL.... I must be old. My wife is always saying, if the music is too loud then yer just too old. Although when I crank up the two 1000 watt yamaha M-1000 amps in the house she goes OFF!!! LOL

But I gotta say, 22" wheels on a old car, well, any car really looks pimpish. Why?? Well more times than not they are all wheel, nuthing has been done to make the car or suspension better. See too may cars with bolted up 22s on a ratt car. Same oil stains on the carpet from the last owner, same bong water smell in the carpet. Same greasy vinyl door panels. And worst of all, same funky rear view mirror from the seventies. No money to fix the rest of the shab from the last owner but just enough to bolt up some Donk wheels. LOL

Then you get the total kustom, been cutomed up from the ground up. Now those cars warrant some donk, and they can play it off. Its a kustom. Not a touring car for the most part, not with 22s, show car yes, and some really nice ones, big bucks!! 60,000 to 100,000 dollars.

So when I see the 22s on a 4,000 dollar car it just screams donk, like, I dont have the money to do the rest but I can do this.

Cheese is cheaper at the grocery store, even better yet the cheese line. Government cheese can be had for nuthing in 25lb blocks. Id go that route, get some govment cheese, same ending result :)))))

And all in jest. Just trying to be funny and show my dislike for govment cheese, yeah, Ive had my fair share, and cheesy wheels. JR

[Most Wanted]

some 22's in the rear.

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whose gonna say that looks terrible???

[JRouche]

some 22's in the rear.
whose gonna say that looks terrible???

It looks great. Actually I have the same wheels, in polished aluminum, if thats the Chicayne car . They (Billet Specialties) say they are Chicayne wheels but they arent. They are the SLC62s. The Chicayne is a standard lip wheel, the SLC62 is the same wheel but with a smooth lip. Kinda a misleading photo op. Nice look though. JR

[LateNight72]

Fo sho, Fo sho raise yo car up bout 5" wit dem truck sprangs so youz can fit dem twennyfo's in der.

[mone]

So whoever said protouring cars couldnt wear 22s needs to apologize:0

[Norwaycamaro]

Well.. Here`s mine..
Not a PT car, but still cool:-)
In my opinion this one has the right stance- at least to me -wouldnt put 22s in front.

[1badchevelle]

can you run a 315 wide tire on a 71 chevelle? this will be a 20 x 10 (I know I will be pushing the limit) Looks like everyone is running about a 305. Maybe their is a reason for that

[formula]

without being rude or pushy or any thing but offering my own opinion...

22" is a LOT of wheel. Since our operating definition is "Whatever starts, stops, and turns better than stock is pro-touring", I have a tough time justifying 22" wheels as p-t.

But, that's just me. To each his own. I personally think a set of 18/19" or, max, 19/20" are plenty big.

[edluv143]

Tino, I really like that setup. Can you help me out with the backspace of those KMC Novas? Thanks

[pitbull73]

checkout my 22s on my chevelle i like them but going mini tub and go with 20x12 on rear and 20x 8 on the front check it out and tell me what u think

[pitbull73]

go to my garage pics and you will see it

[pitbull73]

tino you got one of the sickest rides on this sight mad props thumbs up can you tell me the set up for the air ride you used and the backspacing i need for my car changing my set up thx for your time

[MonzaRacer]

Pass, H#ll even 20s are overkill on just about anything. Ever try mounting those POS. Just did a set of 25 and 30 series,,,,noooooooo sidewall, it felt like crap on test drive. You could feel EVERY imperfection in road and it had full on Air Ride too. And the look, just not enough sidewall. If you run 20s do some mods and use a taller tire if available.
honestly tire sidewalls and wheel heights are getting absolutley ridiculous.

[qwk406]

hahahahaha, remember what i said about hatin? you haven't even done it yet and look.

all 22's isn't that bad IF and WHEN you lower it. you can't deny that green w/green wheels isn't above the level and personally i wouldn't do 22's on the front, but that car is great. a 20/22 & a 18/20 is a little smarter and just so you know, i didn't post donk pics. they may become that way eventually but i'm not even black and i know what a donk is:

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The question is....... WHY???

[mone]

its just a glorified Bigfoot surely you rememeber that truck lol

[mone]

checkout my 22s on my chevelle i like them but going mini tub and go with 20x12 on rear and 20x 8 on the front check it out and tell me what u thinkNice car man that look and stance is just right long as the car sits right it looks good...that looks like Atlanta area in those pics

[wellis77]

one man's opinion of what looks good over another man's. for me, it doesn't matter how many times I see a 22 on the rear of an older car, I just can't like it. my tastes are far different than others anyways, but I just don't like the look of 22's. JMO

[mone]

And that my friend is the beauty of hot rodding

[bonspeedbrad]

We have done plenty of 22's on the rear and they fit with the correct tire. Here is a 71 Chevelle we did with 22's and later he switched to 20's. I'll post that photo next.
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[bonspeedbrad]

Here is the same car after he switched it back to a 19/20 combo.

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[BaddestBuick]

Here is the same car after he switched it back to a 19/20 combo.

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Look how much better the car looks with the 20/19 combo :twothumbs

[pitbull73]

hey man really like your car what kind of air ride system do u have need some help thx for your time

[pitbull73]

Nice car man that look and stance is just right long as the car sits right it looks good...that looks like Atlanta area in those pics naw i am in chattanooga tn

[bonspeedbrad]

hey man really like your car what kind of air ride system do u have need some help thx for your time

The car has a complete Air Ride system with a-arms and ride height controller.

[firewood]

I had a 20/22 combo on my wagon for a while.
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It was bad ass. Got complements everywhere. I once walked out of a convenience store to find a father standing next to my wagon, giving his son a breif history of the wagons he'd owned.

I loved it, except I didn't love it.

After driving around like that for a month or two, I had to admit several things:
1. My car was slower
2. My fuel economy when to crap
3. It was harder to stop
4. They were too easy to damage (I proved it!)
5. The driveline was taking a beating
6. But boy howdy, did it look good.

I had a long conversation with myself about these issues. Then I decided that anything I did to my car that didn't actually improve its performance was a "RICER" mod. And that was me.

It didn't feel so good. So I sold them to someone with no such convictions.

Surprising things about them, in retrospect.

1. They still rode great on my car. B-bodies weigh several tons, ans thier suspension adsorbs bumps well. I call it the driveable living room couch.
2. Even with all their weight, they STILL handled better than the 15's that it came with.

I later switched to some fairly light OZ Racing 18" wheels. It was so much nicer. The 18's were an actual improvement, and still looked pretty good.

I have no illusions about my car being Pro-touring. It isn't. Not yet, anyway. It'll be a year or two before it gets the treatment. But It most certainly will.