$5000 budget Mustang

[Ron S]

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Been posting this car over at Musclerides,thought I would try over here.I bought a 66 Mustang fastback out of a junk yard for $400.Thought I would challenge myself to building as exotic a g machine as possible for $5000.So far Car $400,Dana 60 truck rear with 410's and powerlock $75,Housing ends and axles $375,c5 susp. and truck arms Ebay $600,frame $400.Wheels 18x12 and 18x10 Ebay $900,traded some stuff for some tires.thats $2750.for the car and rolling chassis.I'm recycling everthing,flaring the old fenders and quarters for the additional width.My delema:I got a 4.6 2cam and 5 speed with wiring ass. etc off Racingjunk for $750.I don't think it will meet my power wants at 280hp.It seems like you have to supercharge these things to get any real power out of them,and that would kill the budget.I think I could sell it and make some money and put it towards maybe an ls1 and easily hit the 400hp mark,much cheaper.Should I keep it all Ford? its already got a c5 suspension in it.What to do???Ron

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[dstryr]

How much rust is on it for $400 dollars lol?

[Ron S]

Plenty,thats why the chassis was built floors where nonexistent,but I always loved that body style

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[VF101_jay]

Cool thread, I love the idea of seeing how far you can get for $5000. Are you going to try to do body and paint within that price, or are you just aiming for a complete drivable vehicle. That year of Mustang is one of my favorite body styles, it sounds like you are off to a good start. I think if it was me I might try to sell the 4.6 and look for an old ford truck (mid to late 70's) with a 390ci, yank that out then part out the rest on ebay. With a little luck you might get enough to cover a rebuild kit. That might not reach your 400hp goal, but they definately had lots of torque. Like I said before I think this is a great project just to see what is possible...if a guy can trade his way up to a house by starting with a paper-clip, who knows how far you might get. Best of luck!

[Ron S]

A gallon of bondo is cheap,I've got some old paint around from previous projects,maybe I can come up with enough to squirt it.I really want to stay with EFI on the engine.I've got a bunch of computers and wiring laying around for the LS1 stuff,enough to make it run anyway.I would rather keep it all Ford,I just don't know anyway to get a 4.6 to 400HP without spending a pile of cash,I'm open to suggestions though.I guess the budget is going to win out in the end.Ron

[Aceshigh]

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Look on Ebay for a 5.3L setup with a 4L60e or T-56.
I think Ford's motors suck personally. Took them all the way til 2005
to finally get a NA 300hp......that's embarrassing when LS1's
had almost 350hp back in Fbody's in 1998. (underrated)

Like ya said, it's already got a C5 suspension in it, so it's already *******ized a lil bit.
Unless you plan on ripping it out to go ALL original and sell it for some big dough,
Put a real motor in it.

[kmcanally]

The LS1 is tempting...from a budget and hp perspective it is the obvious answer. Throw in the EFI mandate and the fact that you already have LS1 stuff and now it is really a no brainer.

[fast Ed]

If you want to keep it Ford powered, and get 280 rwhp on a budget, just start with a 5.0 pushrod engine. Lots of cheap new and used speed parts out there. With decent heads and cam, that power level is easily surpassed.


cheers
Ed N.

[Ron S]

I don't know alot about Ford stuff,that is really my problem,but to get to 400 Hp,I think you would have to spend more then $1500.even with a 5.0. I can pick up a 6.0 truck motor and put a used cam and intake on it and hit that mark within my budget,but I don't have a trans.the trans will get the budget back out of whack.My only hope is that I could sell the 4.6 and 5speed and make enough to buy a motor,then I could swing a trans in the budget.Quite a delema.Ron

[Young Gun]

how about these...personally I like the v10 idea (7.3L one)

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some of those could work maybe???

[Vinz68]

Put a 150 shot on the 4.6 and run it till it dies....lol. At least it wil keep you in your budget.

[Restomod]

A good junk yard 5.0 HO will cost about $600 maybe less if you look.
I would rather have a stock 5.0 in it for a while than a CHEVY!
Pick up a MK3 Lincoln 429 for cheap they came with 365hp,a cam/intake swap will put it over 400 easy.

[Nate K]

On ebay there are t3/t4 turbos for $200 each they also sell the flanges for them to bolt to. You may be able to swap the manifolds from right to left and flip them over make some adapters to the turbos. If you cant flip the manifolds buy the cheapest set of headers you can find, cut them up and make them work. You should be able to hit your mark.

[Code Red]

A gallon of bondo is cheap,I've got some old paint around from previous projects,maybe I can come up with enough to squirt it.I really want to stay with EFI on the engine.I've got a bunch of computers and wiring laying around for the LS1 stuff,enough to make it run anyway.I would rather keep it all Ford,I just don't know anyway to get a 4.6 to 400HP without spending a pile of cash,I'm open to suggestions though.I guess the budget is going to win out in the end.Ron


no bondo please if you use filler get some rage thats some good stuff along with duraglass

[mac71ss]

On ebay there are t3/t4 turbos for $200 each they also sell the flanges for them to bolt to. You may be able to swap the manifolds from right to left and flip them over make some adapters to the turbos. If you cant flip the manifolds buy the cheapest set of headers you can find, cut them up and make them work. You should be able to hit your mark.

AMEN!!! You can build a turbo setup for cheap!!

[dropit69]

this is a cool project to follow ..good luck Ron i say do the 5.0 on some juice..!!

[VF101_jay]

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Some inspiration...now you just have to find some guy who will let you drive his souped up Nissan and wreck it so you can salvage the drive train...lol Seriously though, if you can find an engine and trans cheap enough that will give the performance you want... use it, who cares what make it is! By the way, I think I can see a couple of welders (Mig and Tig perhaps) as well as a torch and lots of other essential build it yourself tools in your posts...why not try welding in patches for the panels. you could just cut them from a donor fender and pound them to shape, then weld them in. You can allways smooth it out with filler afterword and it would have to last longer. I know I am getting way ahead of your build, but what colors are you thinking?:drive:

[Ron S]

Thanks for all the input guys.Nitrous is always cool Vinnie,but I want 400 naturally aspirated HP,I'll probably squeeze it anyway,because I can take the nitrous off another car.The turbo idea crossed my mind,but after seeing poor Scott's Grand National run autocross at RTTH,by the time poor Scott got the thing to spool up,it would start blowing the tires off,then he'd have to get out of it for a turn,it just seemed too unpredictable for autocrossing.I've got some feelers out for maybe a junkyard 5.4 4cam Navigator motor,but the cams are a $1000{4 of them}.There are alot of 4.6 Mustangs that are flying,but they're not doing it cheaply.I've still have alittle time to make my mind up,I'd really like to keep it all Ford,but I know what I can do with the LS1 and I've still have some LS1 junk laying around from previous projects.Thanks for the help guys.Ron

[Restomod]

you could just cut them from a donor fender and pound them to shape, then weld them in. You can allways smooth it out with filler afterword and it would have to last longer. I know I am getting way ahead of your build, but what colors are you thinking?:drive:

No offence but Patch panels for these cars are way cheap to just crap them up.

[SatisTraction]

keep it ford. 280hp would be ok for starters then you can mod it later.

[DarkBuddha]

Nifty project, and a great concept. Not to be critical, but I do wonder if you'll actually be able to pull it off for under $5000 if you include all the bits and bobs that usually end up adding at least several hundred (if not thousands) to a project... stuff like lines, fittings, hoses, hardware, metal, etc. I always collect up my random receipts from trips to Autozone, Schucks, Home Depot, etc. every month and somehow find that I've spent $50 on stuff I don't even notice or remember.

BTW, I do think you should go all Ford. If you want cheap power and cheap parts, go with a used late model EFI 5.0 or 5.8 and do a junkyard turbo kit (a couple used T3s and piping and a couple extra boost switched injectors). You should be able to source a good motor $500, do a quicky rehab (bearings and rings) $100, home port the heads for $50, flip the manifolds $0, get a couple T3 flanges $50, and a couple used T3s or IHIs $120, and a cheap IC and piping kit $150. You should be able to get it done for under $1200 including some unexpecteds and it should be able to put down some decent power (350+) fairly easily. Just a thought...

[DFAuto]

keep an eye out for a supercharger on corral.net, craigslist, ebay and the like for your 4.6. you can get luck sometimes. I like all makes but the whole mixing of engines kind of freaks me out but then again if the time comes and the ls1 is all you can make work within budget then you have your answer.

Also where are you located? There is a 4.6 supercharger for sale in the phoenix craigslist for 1400 you could probably work them down.

[Ron S]

There will be a little cheating due to the fact that I'm just finishing up to pretty major projects,and there is alot of left over junk laying around{metal,lines etc.}And I traded a guy a set of BFG tries for a wine cooler I had setting in my garage.I'm just counting the out of pocket expenses.I watch Ebay,Craigslist,and Racingjunk like a hawk,I wouldn't have been able to do this with out some lucky bidding.What did we do before Ebay?Unless I find a smoking deal on a LS1,I will use the 4.6 and hope,some kind of power adder falls in my lap.I'm located in Maryland.Ron
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[baggins]

if ur doing the work on ur car... and are a decent fabricator then i see no reason to not use the not so great sohc 4.6 and go from zero to hero with a couple hairdryers and some piping but thats just my opinion... and the 65 fastback is my fave car nice find for 400

[Restomod]

Pushing a stock SOHC 4.6 with twin turbos or even a bigger blower is not a good idea. It may live ok w/6psi but beyond that its a time bomb. They are no where near as tough as the Cobra 4.6 DOHC or a 5.0 HO.

[Ron S]

I found a line on a cheap LS1,that I can get and reach my HP level with,but it won't leave much for a trans.so after crunching the numbers 20 times.I either can run a 4.6 and 5 speed at about 280hp or run a LS1 with an automatic at about 400 hp.I would much rather run a manual trans,but the car will have 335/30/18's on the back,and I can't think of anything more embarrassing then not being able to turn them.Ron

[Young Gun]

hmm honestly i would go with the auto for now...you may get lucky eventually and fiind somebody at a swap meet getting rid of a manual for cheap, and youve also got a lot more potential from that ls1 than from the 4.6

[01somta]

keep it ford. 280hp would be ok for starters then you can mod it later.

x2!

[chet]

cool project! I say sell the 4.6 for a profit and pick up a cheap 5.8 and stroker kit. should make good HP with a nice carb and high compression.

I like LS motors but keeping a ford a ford is way more fun!

[Benoit23]

I’m no purest by any stretch of the imagination but, I’m kind of in the same situation & I’m choosing to keep it all Ford. I’m building my PT Mustang on a budget & even thought I’ve got plenty of access to Chevy power plants & trannys, it just doesn’t seem right to put them into my Mustang. I can see your struggle because I always think of how much money I can save buy using the Chevy stuff I already have but, I’d rather find some Ford stuff to make it go fast. With all that being said I don’t blame you if you use Chevy power because it’s awful tempting. At times reading this thread you had me second guessing my decision of sticking w/ all Ford but, in the end I’m sticking w/ Ford power.

Keep us posted on your progress & lots of pics because I could use some good ideas on keeping my Mustang build on a budget.

Chris

[Nate K]

Thanks for all the input guys.Nitrous is always cool Vinnie,but I want 400 naturally aspirated HP,I'll probably squeeze it anyway,because I can take the nitrous off another car.The turbo idea crossed my mind,but after seeing poor Scott's Grand National run autocross at RTTH,by the time poor Scott got the thing to spool up,it would start blowing the tires off,then he'd have to get out of it for a turn,it just seemed too unpredictable for autocrossing.I've got some feelers out for maybe a junkyard 5.4 4cam Navigator motor,but the cams are a $1000{4 of them}.There are alot of 4.6 Mustangs that are flying,but they're not doing it cheaply.I've still have alittle time to make my mind up,I'd really like to keep it all Ford,but I know what I can do with the LS1 and I've still have some LS1 junk laying around from previous projects.Thanks for the help guys.Ron
With turbos you should be able to control your car with the suspension you are using and not just haze the tires off. 400hp should be controlable with some setup time. If you shoot for 1million hp that will be a different story. Youre not going to need much boost and it should come in just off idle about 1200-1500rpm. Set it up dial it in and pass the people saying it cant be done!

[Ron S]

Found a 5.4 4 cam this weekend out of a 2003 Navigator with 50,000 miles for $1600,I can put it right to the 5 speed.I think I could get to the 400Hp mark with it,and sell the 4.6.The 400HP mark will still be easier to obtain with the LS1,and I think still cheaper.I'll give myself one more week to roll it around in my head then I'm just going to have to do something,because the chassis is just about done,and I need to fab some mounts.Ron

[Ron S]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/01/401617026_mZbMPL-1.jpgTires came in today,couldn't wait to get them mounted and balanced.Front of chassis finally done,all I have to do is make the rear up rights.Finally desided on an engine,scored a LS1 from my buddy Troy for $300,it will take a couple hundred to replace the peices that are missing but is a low milage engine.Should cheese off all the die hard Ford guys,maybe I'll paint the LS1 Ford blue and nobody will know the difference.Ron

[dstryr]

300 bucks for an ls1? no fair :p


Tires came in today,couldn't wait to get them mounted and balanced.Front of chassis finally done,all I have to do is make the rear up rights.Finally desided on an engine,scored a LS1 from my buddy Troy for $300,it will take a couple hundred to replace the peices that are missing but is a low milage engine.Should cheese off all the die hard Ford guys,maybe I'll paint the LS1 Ford blue and nobody will know the difference.Ron

[Young Gun]

Tires came in today,couldn't wait to get them mounted and balanced.Front of chassis finally done,all I have to do is make the rear up rights.Finally desided on an engine,scored a LS1 from my buddy Troy for $300,it will take a couple hundred to replace the peices that are missing but is a low milage engine.Should cheese off all the die hard Ford guys,maybe I'll paint the LS1 Ford blue and nobody will know the difference.Ron

haha congrats! im glad you managed to get the ls1...I say you go so far as to get ford racing valve covers hahah...you should be able to make the power you want easy, and now you will have so many opportunities for power add ons, I might have missed it but what are your plans for the color of the car?

[muthstryker]

very cool project, good choice on the ls1.

what are the name of the wheels that you bought off ebay if there is a name. also what kind of tires are those? they look like maybe MT in the back and bfg in the front??

[muthstryker]

sweet, just pulled up bfg website and the kdw are now being sold in a 335, im assuming that is what you have?

[Ron S]

very cool project, good choice on the ls1.

what are the name of the wheels that you bought off ebay if there is a name. also what kind of tires are those? they look like maybe MT in the back and bfg in the front?? yeah the tires are Bfg's the wheels are Carrol Shelby Inc.,made in Australia.They have been discontinued,so if I bend One I'm SOL.The guy I got them from had 10 sets left,but they were all c5 offset.Ron

[Ron S]

haha congrats! im glad you managed to get the ls1...I say you go so far as to get ford racing valve covers hahah...you should be able to make the power you want easy, and now you will have so many opportunities for power add ons, I might have missed it but what are your plans for the color of the car?The budget has not even let me think about paint,it may end up sporting the 70's race car stripes that are on it now

[bobbaganoosh]

yeah the tires are Bfg's the wheels are Carrol Shelby Inc.,made in Australia.They have been discontinued,so if I bend One I'm SOL.The guy I got them from had 10 sets left,but they were all c5 offset.Ron

Those wheels are made by speedline, they still show them on thier website so I'd assume they are still available.

[Ron S]

Those wheels are made by speedline, they still show them on thier website so I'd assume they are still available.Thats really good to know,thanks.Just ordered the rear springs and weight jacks from race proven parts,the springs were $6.50 ea. and the weight jacks were $18.00,right in my budget,you just can't beat Ebay.Ron

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[Young Gun]

The budget has not even let me think about paint,it may end up sporting the 70's race car stripes that are on it now

well since its a budjet build go with a budget paint job, there was a thread on here a while ago about it, but here is the link to the actual thread, how to paint a car for 50 bucks

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=2331682&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1

[Ron S]

Now that I have the tires and wheels mounted I can measure and narrow the rear.Using a Dana 60 out of an old bread truck,because of its 4.10's and power lock{and I got it for $75}.The rear ended up being so wide because of the C5 front suspension,that my narrowing jig would barely reach.The cuts off the rear were right at the original welds on the truck housing.The rear ended up at 63" face to face,about the same width as a full size pickup rear {big}.Ron

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[BlindSideCustoms]

nice thinking, when i worked for ford "not a ford man although" i was a car salesman, hey cash was good i was young and making decent money. but i wanted to do almost the same project 4.6 s/c and make a pro-touring g machine out of it. but i quit a few weeks after planning it, found a car and had the hookup on parts.

and just saying if i were you and wanted to invest in forced induction, and well stay ford, honestly i would try to find a totaled 04 svt i had found one for 4500 or just a engine out of one with everything on it. you can find one for the same price your looking at for just a supercharger. sell your engine and tranny....pay the boot and come out cheaper than putting the blower on your 4.6. by the time you got finished with your engine/trans and supercharger and getting it installed your looking at 6k not counting labor.

[Ron S]

Moser axles came in today,accumulating the rear suspension,off Ebay,$6.50 each for the springs,{cracks me up}Shocks came off an 08 Silverado,with 100 miles on it,{got a lift kit}.Loving these budget parts.Ron

[Restomod]

[quote=BlindSideCustoms]
and just saying if i were you and wanted to invest in forced induction, and well stay ford, honestly i would try to find a totaled 04 svt i had found one for 4500 or just a engine out of one with everything on it. quote]

NEVER EVER seen a 03/04 Cobra that cheap (totaled or not), just the engines regularly bring $8 -$9K.

[Ron S]

Either way its out of my budget,7,500 is the cheapest I've seen the engine and trans go off at.The supercharged cars make good horsepower,but its sure not cheap horsepower.Ron

[David Sloan]

Those wheels are made by speedline, they still show them on thier website so I'd assume they are still available.


Any body got a link to the wheels. cant seem to find them.

[Ron S]

Here is the wheel site http://www.speedlinecorse.co.uk/

[Restomod]

Whats the deal with the Model A in the back ground????

[Benoit23]

Keep the money saving tips coming, I'm taking notes.
:cool:

Chris

[ho428]

Good luck on the build, like to see more of it. I agree on the budget though, 5K doesn't go far. You doing "EVERYTHING" will help a lot. I'm doing everything except the roll cage and engine machine work.

I'm shooting for under 10, and I had a lot of parts already. My projection is around $7500 at present, and that's running a bunch of used parts and nothing high tech, my only upgrade now is some GW parts, fuel cell and Kirky seat. By the time I buy gauges, add fire supression and fill in the misc stuff I forgot, 10 will be here quickly.

[David Sloan]

Here is the wheel site http://www.speedlinecorse.co.uk/

Thanks!
Is there a dealer local?
And what kind of price are we talking?

Thanks for your help!

[Ron S]

Whats the deal with the Model A in the back ground???? I CAN NOT BELEIVE YOU EVEN KNEW WHAT THAT WAS!!I didn't think think anyone on this board would recognize what that was.Its a model A sedan body i'm doing some metal work on for my father.Tried to talk him into chopping it and putting a Hemi in it.But he'll have no part of it,just have to finish tigging in some patches so he can take it home.Ron

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[Ron S]

Thanks!
Is there a dealer local?
And what kind of price are we talking?

Thanks for your help!I don't kow about local dealers.I got mine off Ebay for $900,the guy had 10 sets left at that time,search c5 wheels.That was the only size an offset that he had,I've got say they are a work of art though.Ron

[Restomod]

Read my sig. I just sold one and I have had a couple others.

[Ron S]

Its Finally A Roller,setting Body On Tomorrow

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[Ron S]

My buddy troy stopped over and took some pics before the nasty body meets the pretty frame http://troyboy468.smugmug.com/gallery/4282927#P-1-12

[Young Gun]

My buddy troy stopped over and took some pics before the nasty body meets the pretty frame http://troyboy468.smugmug.com/gallery/4282927#P-1-12


hope your good at body work!!! lol jk looks great though!

[DFAuto]

Holy rusted metal batman. Is that made of space age weight saving material. Just kidding but I see why you went with a new chassis setup instead of fixing what you have. It looking good up to this point, I can't wait to see what happens next.

[ho428]

Looking at your project as a whole, it looks like you watched Lou on Musclecar build that Mustang.
BTW, wish they'd finish it.

[Ron S]

Its pretty rusty alright,By the time I fit the frame I don't think there will be any rust left.I sure wouldn't want to do this to a prestine Mustang body,and I just couldn't let it get crushed.Lou's car is cool,I really busted his chops at RTTH about finishing it.Wish I had his budget though.Ron

[Restomod]

Its the perfect car for what you are doing!!

[Ron S]

Set body down on frame,OSHA would not have been happy.What do you think about the ride height,it seems kinda high,but by the top of the tire to the body line,it should be correct compared to the other Mustangs I like the height on.Ron

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[ho428]

Looks to high to me. Maybe it's the oversize rims, they over power the car.

[dipren443]

Looks to high to me. Maybe it's the oversize rims, they over power the car.

Yup, looks a bit high to me too.

[Rybar]

Just found this thread, Ron this is one of the coolest projects I have seen in a long time. Love the direction you are going and the budget you set. You got some pretty awesome fab skills BTW. I also think the car is sitting a bit too high. Stance is everything.

[Ron S]

Thanks,I know these cars are never low enough for anyone on this board.But unlike my Camaro or Cuda,the tires are not tucked in behind the quarter panel,so the construction of the bulge or flare is a little different.I need to leave myself enough room to transition the metal back into the regular quarter,hopefully without it looking stupid.I lowered the car 1 1/2",I really don't think I can go much lower and get the metal formed,and still look cool.The bottom of the frame is 7" in rear and 6.5" in front What do you think.Ron

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[Rybar]

Looks better now, tough to tell until those flares are built. Damn that body is rough. But this one cool ass project!

[ho428]

I agree, looks better but needs the flares for the full effect.

You should get Rustoleum for a sponsor. {See what happens when you don't protect your metal}

[ill steez]

honestly, this is one of the coolest projects i've seen on here. i LOVE how the almost destroyed body looks on the big wheels and super clean frame. i look forward to seeing how this progresses.

[protour_chevelle]

I say keep cutting and lower that sucker more!

[Restomod]

I think the ride height is fine but it is going to take some MAJOR flair to cover the wheels. Gonna be hard to make a "wide body" smooth transition, just a old school flair may be the way to go.

[67SSDan]

Is it sitting on the shocks, or do you have something in there to imitate them? If you've got the shocks and springs in there, I wouldn't sweat it till you get the motor and everything in it. That'll set that dude down some more.

[Ron S]

Been out of town,I will be dragging the frame back out of the car and back on to the frame table,no matter how I try to talk myself into it,its just not low enough.I won't be happy with it the way it is,should only be a couple hours work.Hoping to have it back in the car by this weekend.Ron

[David Sloan]

I am glad iam not the only one that cant leave things alone. (budget or not)
i'am with ya brother!

An this is a killer project!

[bigvegan]

Your car looks awesome! Can't wait to see how it turns out.

Where did you get that frame for $400? Did you weld it up yourself, luck out in bidding, or does someone actually build them that nice that cheap?

[Ron S]

The $400 is what I have in steel and brackets,I welded it together

[dusterbd13]

i am truly enjoying seeing someone doing this on a budget. all too often, i see guys just throwing money at stuff, whereas im stuck refurbishing the parts that others are scrapping and fabbing my own. i also enjoy the fact that you seem to have a streetrodder background, judging by the model A, the style in which you fabricated the chassis, and your lack of fear in dealing with severe rust. as far as that goes, i wish i had your courage so i could start on my model A....

anyway, i dig it. keep it up. and if you could, educate guys like me that have read books about making our own chassis but have never actually done it or seen it in the process. share tips, tricks, methods of layout/mockup, build pictures, whatever will help a new guy out. i know a lot of us would do it if we knew how. or at least i would. especially to that 55 F100 down the road.....


Michael

[bigvegan]

Nice work on that frame!

[MrQuick]

Great new project, we share a taste for the waste-ed. I should send you pictures of my 40 Ford.

But I gotta ask.....what happened with the Camaro...i've been sick.

[Ron S]

I still have my Camaro,all the body work is done,It's just waiting for me to paint,I just kind of got caught up in this Rat Touring, lack of perfection project.As soon as the Mustang body is permanatly attached to the frame,I'm going to have to go back to the Camaro,and put it in color{Its been a nice break} My "A.D.D" is getting to be a real problem LOL.Ron

[Restomod]

Thats P(Project).A.D.D....... I have it to.

[796spdbu]

This build is freaking sweet! You going to try and make it to rtth?

[Ron S]

I'm hoping to have my Camaro and this Mustang done by then,I don't know which one I will bring,I had a really good time at RTTH last year,should be there again next year.Ron

[Z06killinSBF]

Dude this is awesome. I love it. If you need flares I think Maier has some.

[MrQuick]

Thats P(Project).A.D.D....... I have it to.

I have no idea what you guys are talking abou.....ohhhhh cookies :hand:

[Ron S]

Frame dropped 3.5",got the bottom of the rocker to 5".What do you think low enough,too low?Ron

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[hotrdblder]

looks good, 5 inch is not bad at all, most shoot for 4 inch rocker height on a full fab floor/chassis, but i think your good where your at now, looks cool

[muthstryker]

perfect.

[Young Gun]

nailed it....

[Vinz68]

Perfect! Lookin good.

[Ron S]

I saw the work being done on your Camaro Vinn,the big tires are looking good,cage looks great too.Can't wait till spring.Ron

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

perfecto..

[MZ 500]

That I have to say looks sweet I wish I would have thought of doing that with my Torino it would have saved me a lot of rear quarter work since the most of the rust was in the wheel arch.

[Young Gun]

it is absolutely incredible that you will have a fully driveable car, that puts down some respectable power, for only 5 grand, the more and more I think about it, the more I am impressed! I cant wait to see this thing done and driving!

[Ron S]

Thanks guys,hey has anybody run a multidisc 5.5" or 7.25" clutch like Tilton or Quartermaster.That vette pan sets so low in the chassis,I sized up the Lakewood bellhousing off my Camaro,and it hangs about 3.5" below the oil pan,which is about 1.5" off the blacktop[too low].thinking about using a Nascar type bellhousing and clutch[used of course]just for ground clearance.Just wondering if anyone had used one and how it felt,and what its road manners were.Thanks,Ron

[Restomod]

I dont know for sure but I would think those small racing clutches are going to be IN or OUT no in between. Justy trim the bottom of the bell off and shortin it up.

[David Sloan]

Restomod is right about the clutch it is in or out. you will burn them up on the street.


Thanks guys,hey has anybody run a multidisc 5.5" or 7.25" clutch like Tilton or Quartermaster.That vette pan sets so low in the chassis,I sized up the Lakewood bellhousing off my Camaro,and it hangs about 3.5" below the oil pan,which is about 1.5" off the blacktop[too low].thinking about using a Nascar type bellhousing and clutch[used of course]just for ground clearance.Just wondering if anyone had used one and how it felt,and what its road manners were.Thanks,Ron

[MZ 500]

I have worked on them and helped set them up there is not much slip, like the others have said they are more of an in/out box.
They take some getting use to cuz they grab so quick starting out once your going they work nice but I wouldn't want one on a street car.

[Ron S]

Cut the firewall off,getting ready to set the engine,most of the rust is gone now,but then again,so is most of the car.I'll probably start bending the cage before I fab the firewall back up.Ron

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[Z06killinSBF]

Looking good. Can we get a shot of those strips? Whats going on there?

[Ron S]

What strips?Do you mean the stripes,because they are what caught my eye when I bought the peice of crap,sexy aren't they.Ron

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[Z06killinSBF]

What strips?Do you mean the stripes,because they are what caught my eye when I bought the peice of crap,sexy aren't they.Ron
Yes, those are the hottness:usa:

[Ron S]

Set engine in ,sets about 5" into firewall.Still need to find a trans though.If I scrounge up some pedals,and a trans this thing could be moving soon.Ron

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[Young Gun]

looks awsome! keep it up!

[ill steez]

this car is literally in my top 5 favorite builds ever. keep it up!

[blown9746]

good to see someone doing a car on a budget. Now only if I had your skills.

[aussiebj]

keep up the good work ,looks killer

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

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[Young Gun]

this is gonna be such a cool car when its done...i think you need to do the 50 buck paint job though... this car is PROOF that you can have a car with serious numbers, good looks, and handling for pretty cheap, you just need to have the drive and yes the skills... I cant wait to see this thing done, its gonna be too cool

[Ron S]

Been doing alot of traveling for work,finally blasted the thing looks much cleaner without the rust,but not as cool with the stripes gone.Ron

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[Young Gun]

looks great...what is up next on the menu?

[Ron S]

Fabbing the firewall and quarters and flares,the engine is done,so I can really focus on the sheet metal.Ron

[Young Gun]

awsome! well take loads of pics and keep us updated!

[muthstryker]

so what is the total cost on this project so far?? looks awsome so far, getting ready to join a race team so i will be learning how to fab here shortly..

[Ron S]

Its getting pretty close right now,figured it up last night and I'm at $4,860,but that included the 4.6 engine and 5 speed that I am not using, and I have for sale which I'm trying to get $1800 for.when I sell them the budget should be back on track.Still need roll bar tubing,windsheild,gauges,seats,chassis wiring and some sheetmetal.Its going to be close.Ron

[5.0Qtrhrse]

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Look on Ebay for a 5.3L setup with a 4L60e or T-56.
I think Ford's motors suck personally. Took them all the way til 2005
to finally get a NA 300hp......that's embarrassing when LS1's
had almost 350hp back in Fbody's in 1998. (underrated)

Like ya said, it's already got a C5 suspension in it, so it's already *******ized a lil bit.
Unless you plan on ripping it out to go ALL original and sell it for some big dough,
Put a real motor in it.

Whatever...No one bought them! thats why Chevy cancelled the those things! I have Chevy guys calling me to buy my 88 LX to put there Chevy motor in it, people love em.
Chevy has always had more HP than Ford, it doesn't matter, I think Ford outsold FBody 3 to 1.
Since the aftermarkettook to the 5.0 like a fish to water. There are as many head choices as there are for a small block chevy. Actually you can make more cu in with a strked 351 Ford than a 350 chevy!

The car looks great, that engine can't be cheap though.

Good luck
Ken

[Ron S]

Picked up a ls1 longblock in peices for $300,c5 mounts$100,traded f body oil pan for vette pan and vette assesories.cam $329,valve springs $170.Head gaskets and bolts$100.Thats about $1000 out of pocket.I have several PCM's that I had tuned when I ran the Hemi in my Cuda off LS1 stuff http://mysite.verizon.net/ls6ron/ I have lots of misc. LS1 parts already. Also have a 68 Camaro with a LS1.I'm real familiar with that system and have done at least 10 of the harnesses now.I see no reason i can't get to 400 RWHP.The real problem is a trans that will hold up, on the cheap.Ron

[Chad-1stGen]

so cool man...

Hope you keep motivated and keep making progress

[5.0Qtrhrse]

Picked up a ls1 longblock in peices for $300,c5 mounts$100,traded f body oil pan for vette pan and vette assesories.cam $329,valve springs $170.Head gaskets and bolts$100.Thats about $1000 out of pocket.I have several PCM's that I had tuned when I ran the Hemi in my Cuda off LS1 stuff http://mysite.verizon.net/ls6ron/ I have lots of misc. LS1 parts already. Also have a 68 Camaro with a LS1.I'm real familiar with that system and have done at least 10 of the harnesses now.I see no reason i can't get to 400 RWHP.The real problem is a trans that will hold up, on the cheap.Ron

After looking at your Cuda, that Mustang should have a good life. That Cuda is awesome looking.

Ken

[PARKERRS]

Ron, it's just not the same without those Disco Stripes man, LOL. Looking great so far hope to see it at RTTH4.
Tommy

[Young Gun]

any updates on this???

[oorange67]

Too cool shows what can be done on a budget.... Hey I'll give you five grand for it... I'll even come and pick it up Ha Ha!!!!

[Ron S]

Waiting for some sheet metal to show up,started prepping my 68 Camaro for paint{this is long overdue}.Hoping to get the Camaro in color within the next 2 weeks.My A.D.D. is kicking in again,will keep pecking away on the Mustang,but I need a muscle car to drive this spring and my Camaro is just about finished.Ron

[Ron S]

Finally started updating my webpage{I actually forgot my password,and just found it} http://mysite.verizon.net/ls6ron/

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

love your projects!

[Young Gun]

anything new?? love this build..wanna see more progress!!!

[Ron S]

Lets see,I scored a Muncie M21 trans,shifter and bellhousing from my buddy Brian,traded it for an old set of Mustang II spindles and rack I had laying around.Also finally got a serial # and title and some parts off a car that got scraped.Picked a set of LS6 heads,cam and intake for a song.Got and LS1 throttle body off ebay for 95 cents,I also sold my 4.6 engine and trans.So here I am,Have a complete chassis,motor,trans,rear,body setting on chassis,all accesories and brakes.I have about $1800.00 left.still need rollbar tubing,fuel tank,chassis wiring,seats and sheet metal.Now that the trans is here I am sure I will make it{I'd rather of had an overdrive,but beggers can't be choosers}I'm still thrashing every night after work on my Camaro trying to get it in color,so as soon as its done I'll be back on the Mustang.Not enough hours in the day.Ron

[Ron S]

Finally getting a little time to get the engine together http://mysite.verizon.net/ls6ron/

[Young Gun]

sweeeeee! congrats on the progress its looking good!

[chevelle19700]

Built Ford Tough With Chevy Stuff baby yeah

[Ron S]

I'm painting the engine Ford blue,and remote mounting the coils,maybe the Ford guys won't notice.LOL. Ron

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[cantvalve16]

Just wanted to say how cool this whole project is. This alot more grassroots kind of stuff than what the trends are these days. The car will be totally riddled with character running stuff like the old 4 gear and a bare minimum of the high dollar stuff. Very refreshing build.

[Ron S]

Finally got a little time to play.Cutting up some fenders I got out of the scrap pile at a local body shop{free of course}.What do you think of the height and width before i start attaching and forming the metal to the quarters.Ron

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[Restomod]

I like the late model wheel opening!! Looks great as is!

[Young Gun]

swwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

[NRV051]

very nice

[67SSDan]

Interesting idea.... I'm excited to see how it shapes up.

Dan

[David Sloan]

Finally got a little time to play.Cutting up some fenders I got out of the scrap pile at a local body shop{free of course}.What do you think of the height and width before i start attaching and forming the metal to the quarters.Ron

Me likey
Glad to see your still working on it with the bugget.
Oh an thanks for the hook up on the wheels, i got 2 sets.

[Ron S]

LS1 and Muncie with hydraulic clutch all together,should set them in the car tomorrow.Ron

[formula98]

Nice post's! When I clicked on the last post I thought I must of clicked the wrong post as I found your LS1 and the link said $5000 budget mustang. Wow I'll keep an eye on the progress here and watch to see the progress on the 68 camaro also. I like the mods on the 68 do you have a thread on your Camaro progress?

[Ron S]

Got the motor and trans set down in place,I'm tempted to put a driveshaft in it, pull the body back off and drive it around like a go cart.My Camaro is about 8 hours away from paint,I block sand a panel a night,man is it boring.As soon as I spray it I'll make some posts on it,but it just looks like a primered Camaro right now.Ron http://mysite.verizon.net/ls6ron/

[dusterbd13]

that looks slick. wheres the coil packs, and what intake is that?

Michael

[Ron S]

Its a painted LS6 intake,the coil packs will be mounted on the rollcage.

[Ron S]

Kind of fell off the wagon and bought my first luxury item,at over{$400}.Tried to talk myself into the manifolds,but just couldn't.GTO headers fit my chassis perfect.Kind of tough on the budget but should help the performance.Ron

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[dusterbd13]

you couldnt ask for a better fit than that.

and sometimes you just have to splurge, sepecially when youre doing the whole thing on the super cheap. some stuff just isnt availible used.

but 400 aint bad for a splurge.

Michael

[cantvalve16]

When I see an LS motor in that Mustang.. I cringe. At the same time, I think of building the LS motor on the floor in my garage for my Ford pickup. There is just so much to be made of those motors without getting into major dough. But then, I hang my head in a little bit of Ford shame. How did you bring yourself to do it? I don't know if I can.
:pat:

[Ron S]

I sat for days crunching numbers on how to make decent power on a budget with Ford stuff,had a couple sleepless nights researching and calculating it just couldn't be done on such a tight budget.I didn't want to,but I figured with C5 suspension,Dana 60 out of a Mopar bread truck,it was already such a mutt,what the hell.If you could see some of the 95 cent puchases I've made on Ebay you would laugh.Its against my nature not to just pick up the phone and order it. If I make the $5000 budget with what the car will be,it kind of suprizes even me,but man is that body a peice of crapLOL.Ron

[SatisTraction]

When I see an LS motor in that Mustang.. I cringe.
:pat:

i agree :squint: it just seems wrong. i know he is not starting with much but it will hurt the resale no matter how nice (or not nice) the rest of the car is.

BUT, it is his car to build as he wants. :cheers: on building the stang!!

[Ron S]

I figured I would cheese off the ford guys,but I did save this body from the crusher,and the project was all about the budget first,{as nice a touring car as I could squeeze out of a 5K budget}.Hoping to squeeze a high 11 sec pass out of the thing,and be a good handling car.I still would rather have an 11sec. chevy powered stang then a 13sec. ford powered one.Ron

[Benoit23]

I've always been a Chevy guy until I bought my current project but, I don't bleed Ford Blue nor am I Die hard Chevy, I'm an American Muscle Car Lover. I did write earlier in this thread that I wouldn't put a Chevy motor in my Ford Mustang but, for your project I think it's perfect. The more I read your progress the more I like the idea of a BIG 3 Muscle Car Gumbo!
What it really comes down to is making your budget work with the most bang for the buck stuff. American made stuff, that's what it's all about. so, keep up the great work, keep the progress updates coming & thanks for saving an American classic from getting crushed!
:usa:

~Chris

[cantvalve16]

Man. I hope I don't sound like I am down on the project. I LOVE it. It is the opposite of most of the cool stuff being built these days. It is cool for less dough. Dig it completely I do. The goal is speed on the cheap and that is my MO back to front. Rock on man... rock on.

[ill steez]

man, where are you located. i love this project more and more every time i see it!

[Ron S]

I'm in Northern Maryland.If I could get some time to work on the thing,it might start looking like something.Ordered the fuel cell today,if I can find 15 minutes I'm going to fire the thing up.Ron

[Ron S]

Just got back from Atlanta,while I was cruising thru Tenn. I stopped and picked up a new toy.Can't wait to start bending some tubing.Ron

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[tom_a]

Very cool project.

[WILWAXU]

Crazy project!

You should paint the motor Ford blue :)

edit.. missed the last page :lmao:

[MarkM66]

Just got back from Atlanta,while I was cruising thru Tenn. I stopped and picked up a new toy.Can't wait to start bending some tubing.Ron

What bender is that? Let us know how you like it.

[David Sloan]

What bender is that? Let us know how you like it.

Looks like a JD Squared inc.
model #4 with hyd.
I have the model #4 an like it well so far.
www.jd2.com

[abadsvt]

WOW incredible build!! I am a chevy guy but always love the mustangs. Shhhhh...... don't tell anyone i just said that:bananna2: . I had a few questions though and sorry if you explained them earlier. Did you have to modify to track width to use the c5 cradle? Also did the custom frame came with the car? I still can't believe for 5k you will have a sick a$$ car. That is awesome. Keep up the great work!!

Josh

[Ron S]

The bender is a JD squared model 4,it seems to bend great,I just liked the degree wheel over the competitor benders.I built the chassis on the car and the track width is about a foot wider then the Mustang LOL.I'm making the mustang fit the track rather then the track fit the Mustang.Ron

[Ron S]

Kind of made me a little sick to my stomach to cut on new fenders but at $108 a peice,it makes Camaro parts seem expensive LOL.The body sets so low on the chassis I don't think a flat hood will fit over the LS1 intake.That is the first time I've seen hood clearance issues with a LS1 engine.My original fears have come true,tires are so deep into fenders,I'm not going to have much room to transition flares,its a good thing this is a piece of crap.LOL .Ron http://mysite.verizon.net/ls6ron/

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[MZ 500]

:worship: Sweet:worship:

Here's what short track racers did in the 70's to get more front tire clearance I know I have seen it on a Mustang around the same year as yours but I couldn't find a pic off hand. I don't know how it would look on your car but thought I would bring it up.

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[Ron S]

Started hacking on some flares,trying to keep from having that fiberglass flat flare look,glass would be alot easier though.What do you think,too big?Ron

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[Young Gun]

looking good!

[dusterbd13]

part of me says to just leave the cut opening. looks mean.
so far, the flares and clearance hump on the wheelwells jsut look wrong to me. miche be a little better when i see them done, though.

but its your car, and your taste. do as you see fit.

Michael

[Ron S]

Getting ready to sign up for RTTH, and the last year has been crazy,haven't had the time to work steady on anything.I have a Camaro which is real close to color,and should be nice ride,and I have this Mustang which is lets face it kind of nasty.They both will require about the same amount of time to get together,and neither one will have any test time on them so it will break.What do you think bust ass on the Camaro,or the Mustang?Ron

[Young Gun]

bust ass on the mustang...a 5k budget mustang with and lsx is way too sick...

[1badchevelle]

Ron, any way you can set me up with a LS motor for $300. I am also doing a build similar to yours on a 71 chevelle. I have documented everything but not on this site yet as I am new here. Can you point me in the right direction. Thanx

[Ron S]

The funny part is, the 6.0 in my Camaro was only $800 and I sold the intake off it for $275.The deals are out there,it helps to know alot of recyclers.Ron

[David Sloan]

I vote mustang(bust asssss)

[linkstar69]

that front end treatment is off the charts, great to see such an all out build on such a tight budget.
Just shows what can be done with a bit of time and imagination.

BTW: We're similar in a way, I have a Dart with an injected LA-408 that runs a GM computer and harness. Kinda like the baby version of what you did on your cuda.

[MZ 500]

Keep going on the mustang, I like how its coming along. I wish I would have went this rote with my Torino but I have to much done to go back and start over oh well maybe the next rust bucket I drag home.

[Bad Bird]

Honestly one of the best projects that I've ever seen. It's brilliant!

[Paul_J]

I vote that you get the mustang finished! The Camaro will just get lost in the parking lot! ...lol Seriously, If it is about the same amount of work on each car I would invest the time in the mustang. It makes a much larger statement and there are so many budget builders like myself waiting to see it finished. Do it for us!

[vancouver67]

The Mustang.....got more pics of how you did the flares?

[Benoit23]

The Mustang.... Looks like an landslide.....

This project is one of Pro-Touring.com's top builds.
It hos gotten some great responses.

[Ron S]

I can't find a flare that I really like,here is ine off of an 08 Mustang,I better make up my mind if I'm going to make it to RTTH.Ron

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[Young Gun]

I think the 08 flares look sweet! I cant wait to see what numbers it throws down!

[linkstar69]

I think the 08 flares work as well

[David Sloan]

I think the 08 flares look sweet! I cant wait to see what numbers it throws down!


I 2nd the 08s. they look good!

[Memphis]

they look great with the 08 flares.

[SaturnVUEguy]

The first flares looked cool, but these '08s really set it off

[baggins]

sorry if you mentioned it but where did you get that hood, and how tall is it?

[Ron S]

The hood came from CJ Mustang parts,in keeping with the budget,its a scratch and dent peice,two of the 4 corners have cracks in them.{perfect for this car}Its a 2.5" cowl.Ron

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[Ron S]

Heres a new one for me,the truck arm suspension didn't leave much room for exhaust,so I'm running side exhaust.I couldn't find a muffler that would fit in my limited size and shape requirements,so I built my own.They fit perfect,but have no idea what they sound like.I baffled them similar to the Flowmasters.Kind of cool from the bottom,because it is flat as the frame and looks really smooth.Ron

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[linkstar69]

Just keeps getting cooler!!! This thing is top shelf budget

[wblanton]

Cool project... I like the LS1 in the MUTTSTANG.. Hope to make it to RTTH to see this thing run in person...

[Rubes]

...I couldn't find a muffler that would fit...so I built my own...
How cool is that...now you gotta bring this one to RTTH. I'm likin' it more and more with every update.

[scogin918]

Heres a new one for me,the truck arm suspension didn't leave much room for exhaust,so I'm running side exhaust.I couldn't find a muffler that would fit in my limited size and shape requirements,so I built my own.They fit perfect,but have no idea what they sound like.I baffled them similar to the Flowmasters.Kind of cool from the bottom,because it is flat as the frame and looks really smooth.Ron

I'm running into the same problem. Where on the side is it going to exit? I even toyed around with the idea of sidepipes.

[69LT1Nova]

Heres a new one for me,the truck arm suspension didn't leave much room for exhaust,so I'm running side exhaust.I couldn't find a muffler that would fit in my limited size and shape requirements,so I built my own.They fit perfect,but have no idea what they sound like.I baffled them similar to the Flowmasters.Kind of cool from the bottom,because it is flat as the frame and looks really smooth.Ron

Holy crap. :jawdrop:

This thread just keeps getting cooler by the minute! I'm not a Mustang guy, but props dude, props! I LOVE the low-buck approach, and your fabrication skills are off the charts!

Building your own mufflers. LOVE IT! I hope they sound as good as they look.

Could you do everyone on this forum a personal favor and tally up all your costs at the end? It would be awesome to see if you hit your goal, and what you paid for each piece/part. And of course, keep the pics coming!

[Ron S]

I'm running into the same problem. Where on the side is it going to exit? I even toyed around with the idea of sidepipes. It will exit in front of the rear wheel,its probably a little different on your Camaro,because this frame is 2x4 tubing,and the mufflers tuck nicely up into the frame. Ron

[scogin918]

My problem is the crossmember for the truck arms. They put two reliefs for tubing outside the truck arms but it really needs to go in between to be able to go all the way back.

[dodge]

I think the 08 flares look sweet! I cant wait to see what numbers it throws down!I agree ..The 08 flares certainly do look the part :yeah:

[qnitro]

This is a very cool project....

[Ron S]

Sandblasted the Mustang frame today,that gives me less then a month to reassemble before RTTH.It should really be like the racecars of old,held together with duct tape and chewing gum.all my freinds are taking bets to see if I make it.Where is that Overhaulin crew when you need them.Ron
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[jackfrost]

where are you located? maybe some PT folks could help out?

[Z06killinSBF]

I would help if I could. I've got a few old Mustang parts laying around if you need anything.

[Ron S]

where are you located? maybe some PT folks could help out?I'm in Northern Maryland,I appreciate the offers,I think I have it covered.LOL,well it will probably be a miracle if the thing is actually equipt with things like lights or seats for that matter,but it should be there.Ron

[69chevelle355]

Subscribing to see if you make it!! :)

[Ron S]

Chassis is painted and back together,body is held on with visegrips while I bend up the roll cage.Tick tock

[55chevyman]

Holy CRAP!!! Your movin man!
3 days ago you posted pics of it bare and sandblasted
The chassis is a freakin masterpiece! One of my favorite projects on the whole board
Keep up the good work! Hope you make it

[muthstryker]

you are one talented man.

[Z06killinSBF]

Looks amazing. We need body on shots outside though....

[SatisTraction]

you are making some amazing progress. by far one of the best threads on here.

[dropit69]

You Can Do It Ron !!!!!!

[Ron S]

Got cage bent and tacked in.It really turned out good,stayed real high and tight,from the outside of the car you can't even see it.Going to pull the body off one more time to make tigging all the tubing easier.While the body is off I'll prime it,by next weekend it should be installed for keeps.Ron

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[67.5vette]

Talk about making a buck go far. This project is great. Reading the title of the thread, I was not expecting a project this impressive. Cannot wait to see more.

[Ron S]

Body back off while I tig the tubing,kind of cool looking like this.sprung for the chromoly tubing,so it has to be tigged,kind of wish I'd had used mild steel,and I would have been done 2 days ago.Ron

[69Nova]

I'd wanna drive it just like that.!

[formula98]

Man this is really coming along nice! Looks really cool in this at this stage....

[jackfrost]

I'd wanna drive it just like that.!

put seats in it and you're done!! :seizure:

[69LT1Nova]

How is the budget doing? Springing for Chr-Mo tubing? Hope you are watching your $5k... I'm cheering you on, hope you make it!

[SaturnVUEguy]

I'd wanna drive it just like that.!Me too! Can't tell that the car is a Mustang when you see that pic, especially with the LS engine in there. Looks like a good start for an actual racecar, not something you'd be able to drive around, especially with that budget!

[Ron S]

How is the budget doing? Springing for Chr-Mo tubing? Hope you are watching your $5k... I'm cheering you on, hope you make it! I really only have 3 frill items,new headers,chromoly tubing for the cage and Kirkey seats,the rest is either fabricated or used.In my mad race to get to RTTH I have to say I've called and ordered more then I should have.I calculated pretty close yesterday,I may have to change the name of the thread to fifty some hundred dollar Mustang {being in a rush is a bitch,and expensive}Ron

[David Sloan]

If you come anywhere close to that 5000 mark you have done good my friend !
Don't sweat it just getter done!
good luck

[69LT1Nova]

I really only have 3 frill items,new headers,chromoly tubing for the cage and Kirkey seats,the rest is either fabricated or used.In my mad race to get to RTTH I have to say I've called and ordered more then I should have.I calculated pretty close yesterday,I may have to change the name of the thread to fifty some hundred dollar Mustang {being in a rush is a bitch,and expensive}Ron

Yeah, I hear ya Ron, I'm rushing the Nova along to get the build done before mid-September and I can chalk up at least $2k in stuff that I could have fabbed or improvised if I had more time. Ah well, nobody ever said PT was cheap! LOL

Still, awesome job so far man. :twothumbs

[Blue70]

I am in LOVE with this build!!
I love the fabrication you've done so far

[Part Time]

I'm seeing a magazine article in your future. This thing rocks!

[Ron S]

Got the pedal box built,using a c5 master cylinder I got off Ebay for 95 cents and a wilwood slave,can't move fast enough.Ron

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[dusterbd13]

i wish i could make the kind of progress on my bathroom rennovation that you are making on the mustang.

do you work on it all day too, or just not sleep?

Michael

[Ron S]

My poor wife thinks she is a widow,I am working in the garage after work until about 11 PM,my ass is dragging though.I have to go out of town for a couple of days for work,it going to be a much needed break.Probably be spraying primer on it as I load it on the trailer to leave for Tenn.LOL,no really.Ron

[Ron S]

Just got back,UPS delivered my mufflers back from the coaters.Performance Coatings out of Georgia,did and excellent job.Ron

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[David Sloan]

Hey Ron they look good!
Were are these guys @ in Ga?
I have been using a guy up in north Ga.
Thanks

[PARKERRS]

They are down around McDonough David. I used them for my headers and they do good work. The exit before Summit if I remember right.

Tommy

[Martin71RS]

Man I am very impressed with your work! I whish I could do something like that.....if it weren't for the lack of junkyards and price of parts here.... (and lack of skills)

anyways....keep it up, great build to watch!!

Martin

[Ron S]

Hey Ron they look good!
Were are these guys @ in Ga?
I have been using a guy up in north Ga.
Thanks Its http://exhaustcoatings.com/ They did a real nice job,I'd recommend them.Sorry I didn't get back to you,had to drive my daughter to College this weekend.Family always comes first,but it sure is cutting into my wrenching time.Ron

[David Sloan]

Thanks Ron an Tommy
I know i had heard of them just could not remember
Must be that age thing kickin in! LOL!

[jackfrost]

Its http://exhaustcoatings.com/ They did a real nice job,I'd recommend them.

hmm... i found this website:
http://www.headercoatings.com

looks like the same place...

[sacarguy]

Kind of made me a little sick to my stomach to cut on new fenders but at $108 a peice,it makes Camaro parts seem expensive LOL.The body sets so low on the chassis I don't think a flat hood will fit over the LS1 intake.That is the first time I've seen hood clearance issues with a LS1 engine.My original fears have come true,tires are so deep into fenders,I'm not going to have much room to transition flares,its a good thing this is a piece of crap.LOL .Ron http://mysite.verizon.net/ls6ron/

108 ? you got robed i can get new fenders for 89 bucks hell i can buy WHOLE QUARTERS for 69 bucks

[Ron S]

Wrenching time is getting hard to come by,Overhaulin crew where are you.Got most of the floors and firewall fabbed,tried to leave a fair amount of room just in case I one day convert back to ford power.It will be a miracle if I make it.Ron
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[69LT1Nova]

We're all rootin' for ya! Now get back in the shop! :)

[67.5vette]

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I found this pic with the new style mustang fenders. Cannot wait to see yours.

[HectorM52]

Just got back,UPS delivered my mufflers back from the coaters.Performance Coatings out of Georgia,did and excellent job for less then half the price of Jet Hot.Ron
Awesome, those are the guys that powdercoated my frame back in '01!!

[Ron S]

Just set the body on the chassis for the last time today.That gives me seven days to put the car the rest of the way together.If I were a betting man I'd say there is no way in hell this car is going to make it to RTTH.There is still so much to do,but I'm going to continue to thrash on it,and hope that I make it.Should be a real zip tie special though,and not much to look at,but I'll bring it anyway.Ron

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[55chevyman]

Any updates???? Did you make the deadline????

[Chad-1stGen]

Yeah, updates!

[Ron S]

Sorry guys,no the car didn't make it to RTTH.My c5 calipers hit my wheels,my windsheild wouldn't have gotten put in until friday,so I just gave up on tuesday.The car wouldn't have looked to nice anyway.I did go to RTTH and it was alot of fun,and a much needed break.Ron

[Ron S]

Finally getting back to this car,the interior kind of looks like the inside of a battleship.I'm debating on putting carpet in it or not,looks more racecar without.Ron

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[hotrdblder]

carpet, it don't need no stinkin carpet
killer ron,

[sutton82]

I say no carpet and mount the gauges on the roll bar where the dash would be. It looks awesome.

[dusterbd13]

thats cool just the way it is. may need some sort of texture for anti-skid, though.

Michael

[ho428]

Since this is a budget build, spray the interior floor with Bed liner. I think you can get colors other than black now.

[Payton King]

for about 2 weeks waiting for the interior guy. Even with that stuff down I could not carry on a conversation with the person riding with me. It was really loud inside with the sound bouncing all around, made my head ring after about 30 minutes of driving.

I like the race car look, just know you are going to have the race car sound as well.

On a side note, my car has been flawless after removing the tensioner. Thanks again for the help!

[Norm Peterson]

Maybe use some lightweight indoor-outdoor carpeting. Seems to do a decent job of cutting down on the noise level inside.


Norm

[Ron S]

I've been crazy busy at work,but finally got some time to build and install the tubs,went crazy big with the tubs,because there was no interior restrictions,finally got a grasp on what I am doing with the flares,as soon as these tubs are finished,I'll finish the flares and quarters.Hoping they turn out as good as I'm picturing in my head.Ron

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[69chevelle355]

Ron,
I just can't get enough of this thing! Awesome work!!

[Twentyover]

Maybe I missed this, but how are you hanging the mody on the frame. The inside o the sill plate looks to be a flat vertical surface- What rests on what, and how are you planning to secure the cody to frame?

[Ron S]

Maybe I missed this, but how are you hanging the mody on the frame. The inside o the sill plate looks to be a flat vertical surface- What rests on what, and how are you planning to secure the cody to frame?I attached it along the rocker pinch welds.It was alittle tricky because the body was three inches wider at the rear of the rocker pinch welds then at the front.I had to break an 1/8" stip of steal the length of the rocker at a 90 degree angle sheared at a taper{1 1/2" down to nothing}Welded to the frame,then plug welded to the rockers top and bottom.I also attached the cage to the windsheild frame and rear pillars and of course the tubs and firewall floor plug welded to the frame.Hope this was helpful.Ron