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Twentyover
10-06-2008, 04:12 PM
Cool. Thanks for the detail. I saw the hat section pictures 32-42, didn't get how it fit together
ill steez
10-22-2008, 12:44 PM
whats the word! its been a while and i'm anxious to see updates!
David Sloan
10-22-2008, 01:08 PM
whats the word! its been a while and i'm anxious to see updates!
Me Too!!!!
55chevyman
10-22-2008, 03:20 PM
Me three!!!
Ron S
10-22-2008, 04:55 PM
I've had a pile of family stuff to do,just about caught up,its funny tonight was the first time of even looked at the car in a while.The one rear door post was rotted beyond repair,I just replaced it tonight with one off a doner car.Its funny before RTTH,none of this little stuff was important,I just wanted to make it mobile.But since I didn't make it,I figured I might as well fix all this stupid crap that will make it a much nicer car.This weekend I should do the final welding on the rear flares{I'll post some pics then}Ron
Twentyover
10-23-2008, 01:38 PM
hemicuda-
This whole build has me thinking about my next project. Screw spending 7-8K on pretty tin, then spending another 10K on powertrain and 5k on iterior. Get a $500 hull, build the frame, cut the floor out of an existng car (like to 93 explorer rusting behind the barn), build the firwall from a piece of flat stock.
There will always be a place for cars like Penny, TrackRat, & Motiv8er. There needs to be stars to shoot for. I think they're beautiful, and appreciate the sacrifice and resources invested in them.
But for something more streetfighter than prizefighter, I think you've really nailed it. Ebay suspension, junkyard shell, simple powerplant. Shure it will have scars and a califlower ear or two, but Damn! This is kind of the rat rod of PT. Something really visceral about it. Screw convention, just get it to go fast and make noise. This is the stuff that Hot Rods were, and should be, made of.
Picked up a pad of 11 x 17 graph paper last night, along w/ a circle template and straightedge. I've selected the car model I'd use, and the cars I need to dispose of to get this thing started (had to do SOME horse trading with the SigOth). Even if I never complete this, or even start it, you have inspired me to look at PT cars in a whole new light. Thanks for that.
Think we get caught up in the 50-70K cars- not many of us can afford those- but if you can build a 5-7K car that will give those cars a run, you've accomplished something
Ron S
10-23-2008, 06:34 PM
Thanks,I appreciate the interest in this pile.But ask Steve Rupp ,Larry or anyone else with a high end peice on this board,nice cars are a bitch.Maintaining them,cleaning them,even parking them can sometimes be an event.Don't get me wrong,I love them,I've owned them.I have a high end 68 Camaro now,that is ready for me to spray,for some reason Mustang grunge keeps winning out.It really has been the most fun build I've ever done.Who knows,I may pretty it up one day,but for now,its old school race car all the way.Ron
Ron S
10-26-2008, 04:03 AM
Just subscribed to one of those picture programs,I'll try and gather up all my Mustang pics and stick them in here http://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/gallery/6357389_pKQdb#401614361_3Jfac
Ron S
10-29-2008, 04:38 PM
Finally got the rear flares made,but I can't attach them until I get the exhaust exits figured out.I'm having a hell of a time building something that is as large as I want it to be,but not look stupid,because I usually don't like side exhaust.I think I've desided on 4" pipe split down the middle with a 1" peice of flat bar welded in making it an oval,with a 3" pipe inside it,with the same treatment,I'm going to have to look at it some before I weld it all in.What do you think? Ron
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/10/401620187_v3283L-1.jpg
Paul_J
10-29-2008, 04:51 PM
So if this is existing at an angle it will be elliptical? I know your cut and widening will make it elliptical but the angle would increase that right? It think it could be a nice piece. I would finish it in a way that would not draw your eye to it. Like black rocker panels and black exhaust. Just my 2c.
Z06killinSBF
10-30-2008, 06:54 AM
I like the way this one looks.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif
Ron S
10-30-2008, 12:38 PM
Thanks Shaun,thats exactly what I was looking for,but couldn't seem to find.Mine will be alittle bigger and more obnoxious then that,but with the width and exaggerated nature of the whole car,I think it will be a good fit.Do you have anymore shots of that car,it looks pretty good from that shot.Thanks again.Ron
TonyL
10-30-2008, 12:44 PM
That's the Unique performance shelby car.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif
Ron S
10-30-2008, 12:53 PM
Thanks Tony,beautiful car,mine looks about a foot wider and 3 inches lower then that though.The width on the factory C5 subframe is crazy wide.Ron
TonyL
10-30-2008, 01:28 PM
Yours is eleventybillion times cooler too!
Roger M
10-30-2008, 01:36 PM
Yours is eleventybillion times cooler too!
Co-signed:cool: .. Wait, How much is eleventybillion?
Very cool project. Cant wait to see this one done. awesome work!
Twentyover
10-30-2008, 01:55 PM
Co-signed:cool: .. Wait, How much is eleventybillion?
Very cool project. Cant wait to see this one done. awesome work!
11,000,000,000? 110,000,000,000? Ummmm How about alot?
Ron S
10-30-2008, 04:11 PM
Ok,figured how I'm doing the exhaust,dummying up the flares I built,I'm not really sure I'm in love with them either,I'm finding its kind of hard to cover up 5 inches of tire.Truefully,what do you think?You won't hurt my feelings,I hate to back to the drawing board,but I will if they don't grow on me.Ron
srh3trinity
10-30-2008, 04:35 PM
I like em. It has a late 80's Porsche feel to it with the fastback roof lines. Maybe you could make a side brake scoop like the blue car pictured above molded into the fender.
Restomod
10-30-2008, 04:39 PM
The flairs do have the 80's Porsche Ruf look about them. They will be good.....
cheapta
10-30-2008, 04:57 PM
I like it. I've actually considered a similar apraoch to a 65 Nova I'm building. Go for it-they look great!
srh3trinity
10-30-2008, 05:00 PM
Just stumbled across this car on the Forgeline site. I thought maybe it would help you out with the flares. http://www.forgeline.com/customer_gallery_view.php?cvk=222
sutton82
10-30-2008, 06:53 PM
Those flares look mean.
Z06killinSBF
10-30-2008, 07:13 PM
I'm lovin' the flares. I agree with stated above too. Looking hot!!
cantvalve16
10-30-2008, 10:52 PM
First of all... lovin' what you are doing with that car. Love the flares. My first thought when I saw them was like the other guys... Porshe widebody.
Now let me preface my next statement by saying that you are light years ahead of me in the fab department and you could button that thing up now and we would all aplaud. That being said, I think it would look cooler if they didn't jet out from the body so... all of the sudden. Maybe a little gentler transition from the quarter into the flare. Like where the 1/4 and the flare meet. And pull the bottoms of the flares (toward the rocker) a little tighter in to show a little bit of tire toward the bottom.
After saying that, I feel like such a jerk. I have done none of what you have and here I am armchair quarterbacking you into the shop. Gotta say, though, your car has motivated me to think a bit outside the accepted norm. I am traditionally a Ford guy, but you have gotten me outside the generally accepted lines of hot rodding and enjoying what we build. Thank you for that.
Martin71RS
10-30-2008, 11:03 PM
first thing I thought was Porsche 911 rear.....guess I am not alone in that.
It will look very extreme....
and that is cool !
Ron S
10-31-2008, 02:08 AM
First of all... lovin' what you are doing with that car. Love the flares. My first thought when I saw them was like the other guys... Porshe widebody.
Now let me preface my next statement by saying that you are light years ahead of me in the fab department and you could button that thing up now and we would all aplaud. That being said, I think it would look cooler if they didn't jet out from the body so... all of the sudden. Maybe a little gentler transition from the quarter into the flare. Like where the 1/4 and the flare meet. And pull the bottoms of the flares (toward the rocker) a little tighter in to show a little bit of tire toward the bottom.
After saying that, I feel like such a jerk. I have done none of what you have and here I am armchair quarterbacking you into the shop. Gotta say, though, your car has motivated me to think a bit outside the accepted norm. I am traditionally a Ford guy, but you have gotten me outside the generally accepted lines of hot rodding and enjoying what we build. Thank you for that. Feedback is what I'm looking for, thanks.The flare in the pic is just hanging there and does curve in more at the bottom front and back{I just didn't want to tack too tight}This is probably revision 17,I even tried bulging the whole quarter panel,but it is just too much tire to have to cover up.The quarter is now bulged about 2.5" with a 3" flare.I thought I was the only one that saw the 911 widebody{not that there is anything wrong with that,I love those cars}.Thanks for the feedback.Ron
dusterbd13
10-31-2008, 03:24 AM
with your fab talents, why not just widen the whole body? put a X-inch strip the whole way down the car to make it cover? there was a falcon in a mag recently done like that, thats why i thought of it.
Michael
Z06killinSBF
10-31-2008, 03:54 AM
with your fab talents, why not just widen the whole body? put a X-inch strip the whole way down the car to make it cover? there was a falcon in a mag recently done like that, thats why i thought of it.
Michael
Hmm.... that is a good idea..
Another thing (if you haven't done it already) is to slice open the top of the quarters/fenders and add some material there. That way it would be a little sleeker. That is if you haven't already did this. Just let me get a couple cups of coffee in me and I'll start rattling off some more ideas. I LOVE the out side of the box. Too bad I also drive a 66 Mustang. Ohh well....
Like this
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif
Ron S
10-31-2008, 05:11 AM
Here is a company that did exactly that,scroll down http://www.totalcontrolproducts.com/vehicles/tcpracecar/modifications.html in my opinion looks great.But they did not have the extreme tire coverage issues I have to deal with.I did try putting a quarter panel over the existing an bulging it back,and it just looked stupid.The front fenders however are getting that treatment along with the flares.We'll see,maybee I'll push it outside and see how I like it.Ron
Norm Peterson
10-31-2008, 05:45 AM
I think in the TCP car the front flares would look better if a convex contour was maintained ahead of and behind instead of becoming essentially straight (looking down). Straight lines tend to end up looking concave, and the early Mustang's fender peak only serves to make it more noticeable. I don't think it would require much convex shaping to look a lot cleaner, just that it have some.
Norm
Young Gun
10-31-2008, 07:33 AM
Have you considered making a vent into the wheel well and plumb it to be functional in cooling the brakes? Just a thought...anywhoo where are you on the budget?
Ron S
10-31-2008, 09:12 AM
The budget got busted on my mad dash to get to RTTH.I'm floating around $5900.00.Everything is here except the windsheild and a gallon of paint.Thought about functioal vents,but thats more time and money.I NEED TO DRIVE SOMETHING!!Ron
Ron S
10-31-2008, 10:46 AM
Trying the IMSA Monza look,what do you think?Ron
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/10/408513868_kZZoyL-1.jpg
huffhinesce
10-31-2008, 11:01 AM
This car keeps looking sicker everytime you update!!! I kinda liked the fender wells that you had fabbed before but maybe incorporating those vents in with them. Really though to pick I would say you need to get the fronts atleast on one side fabbed up to see which one is better for the whole car. Maybe do a combination of the two?!?! I'm really loving both of them though. This thing is ridiculous and your skills are crazy. Can't wait for more.
cantvalve16
10-31-2008, 03:50 PM
That looks great. I didn't think I would... but I like it better than the flares.
Ron S
10-31-2008, 03:54 PM
I'm down to the 2 of them,either with possible vents.Walk around it a couple more times tomorrow then flip a coin.LOL.I've got to keep reminding myself of what this project is.Grunge,lack of perfection touring.Its not supposed to be perfect,originally I told myself I'd attach the quarters with zip screws,for easy replacement{I may still}Ron
hotrdblder
10-31-2008, 04:24 PM
thats it ron, go with that look, killer killer killer
srh3trinity
10-31-2008, 04:47 PM
I like the second look better. The flares were cool, but that second look really adds a lot to the car. It will be a cool view from the top, similar to the 70's Vettes where it pinches in at the doors and the front and rear fenders have a nice curve to them.
srh3trinity
10-31-2008, 04:52 PM
Oh, BTW, if you want to make some money off of the car, I will give you 6-7K when you finish it up. Of course, that wouldn't take into account the shear hours you put in the car. Have you added that up???
Z06killinSBF
10-31-2008, 05:27 PM
I vote for the latest flares, MUCH more classy and realistic. For inexpensive paint and supplies, go to - www.paintforcars.com
67SSDan
10-31-2008, 06:13 PM
Hmmm... yeah, I'm having a hard time deciding also. I like them both. The only thing I don't like about the "monza look" is the doors sometimes look out of place (referencing other cars I've seen done like that in my head here). I can't tell from your pictures if the angle coming off the fender is steep enough to give it that look, and sort of assuming you'd do something similar in the front (?)... that'd be the only reason I wouldn't go that route. I gotta say though... I really like the first one too...
LOL Count me as neutral.
Dan
aussiebj
10-31-2008, 08:20 PM
i do prefer the flares that Maier racing sells just look at charlie libbys mustang yours has inspired me though here is my build
https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48253
but i am at 14k right now i do not know how you r keeping to your budget i love this buildskeep the pics comming...
Blue70
11-02-2008, 05:05 AM
I don't think you could go wrong with either look.
I would probably go with which ever one is easiest at this point to keep rolling :)
formula98
11-02-2008, 06:15 AM
I think it looks great. I really liked the look of the late model Mustang flares or wheel opening, too bad you couldn't incorporate both. Nice work and I love this build.
Memphis
11-02-2008, 06:20 AM
Man, the second version looks SICK!
Ron S
11-02-2008, 09:59 AM
One more time.Vents,too much,not enough?the pipe beneath it,is what the exhaust passes thru,and will be shaped to the rocker.Ron
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/409401916_upBJfL-1.jpg
796spdbu
11-02-2008, 10:36 AM
I think the vents look right. The exstention you added tothe leading egde makes it look proportioned to the flaired quarters.
MZ 500
11-02-2008, 02:30 PM
One more time.Vents,too much,not enough?the pipe beneath it,is what the exhaust passes thru,and will be shaped to the rocker.Ron
I like the way the quarters are looking the vents are a must in my book this car reminds me of this cyclone a little.
http://www.robisonracing.com/home.html
srh3trinity
11-02-2008, 04:29 PM
That last look works for me. This car is really shaping up nicely. It is going to look like a real streetfighter.
Restomod
11-02-2008, 04:34 PM
I like the newest versions even more!!
Ron S
11-03-2008, 03:13 AM
I like the way the quarters are looking the vents are a must in my book this car reminds me of this cyclone a little.
http://www.robisonracing.com/home.html (http://www.robisonracing.com/home.html[/quote) That car is crazy,talk about picking a car out of the mainstream!I love when guys do that,I wonder how competitive the old girl is.Very different,and cool.Ron
Restomod
11-03-2008, 04:32 AM
I like the way the quarters are looking the vents are a must in my book this car reminds me of this cyclone a little.
http://www.robisonracing.com/home.html\
I have seen that before somewhere, its WILD!!!
huffhinesce
11-03-2008, 05:47 AM
I think you have nailed it this time. Looks great!!
PARKERRS
11-03-2008, 06:07 AM
I think the last pic with the flared qaurter and "definetly" the vents. That design is just "killer", keep up the good work Ron.
Tommy
Ron S
11-03-2008, 03:51 PM
Thanks ,Tom hows that Camaro coming?Like everything else on this thing,made the vents and man are they exaggerated,made some trim rings to close the hole up a bit,but not sure if I like them.Ron http://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/gallery/6456557_VSsTf#409406637_tA53G
cantvalve16
11-03-2008, 08:52 PM
That quarter looks perfect. Lovin' the exagerated quality of the whole look. Oh and w/o trim rings is the ticket.
aussiebj
11-04-2008, 06:11 AM
Love the vents they have to stay and make them functional...
Ron S
11-05-2008, 04:21 PM
Got the rocker section built,I wish I could have gotten the exhaust exit back alittle farther,but with the perimeter frame with the truck arms,there was no other place for it to go.The sucky part is now I have to do the other side of the car.Ron
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/441798572_zWU6TL-1.jpg
Restomod
11-05-2008, 05:27 PM
The exhaust looks good like that its centered between the door and wheel well.
cantvalve16
11-05-2008, 05:32 PM
Looks great man! Keep on rockin'.
Elec87
11-06-2008, 08:03 AM
can't wait to see the finished project
69chevelle355
11-06-2008, 10:34 AM
can't wait to see the finished project
X2 !!!
Ron S
11-06-2008, 04:06 PM
Made the functional portion of the vents,all this little stuff really slows you down.Ron
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/419937531_CFo2YL-1.jpg
Ron S
11-10-2008, 12:00 PM
With all the cars I've tubbed thru the years,and always had a problem figuring out how to attach the tub to the quarter.Mini tubbing was always alittle easier,because you could use the outter wheel house to attach to.This car the tire is so far out there,that there is no outter house.Formed a peice of angle to the shape of the quarter and used the new panel adhesive that all the body shops are using,worked pretty good.I was very reluctant to use it,but all my bodyshop buddys say that is all they use now.No weld spatter all over everything,I did had to borrow the gun,and the adhesive added $35 to the budget,but it was easy.Ron
69chevelle355
11-11-2008, 01:39 PM
Off topic, but what is that in the rear with the swampers on it?? Old jeep maybe? Sorry for the thread jack, just curious...
Ron S
11-11-2008, 03:41 PM
Its my Dodge Power Wagon
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/398501989_kF3J7L-1.jpg
Benoit23
11-11-2008, 04:09 PM
Its my Dodge Power Wagon
That wagon is cool, Stacey David has one like it (I think) on that TV show GEARS. Great toy!
progoat
11-12-2008, 03:40 PM
That wagon is cool, Stacey David has one like it (I think) on that TV show GEARS. Great toy!
Yep he does! He started it when he was doing trucks...Its on rocks and 49's though:seizure:
Ron S
11-16-2008, 06:46 AM
Just finished welding the quarter and new rocker in place.Still don't know if I will put some kind of bezel around vent,but it feels good to finally have parts on for keeps.Man is the car wide,I think I'll have to call it a 66 Mustang Fatback.Ron
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/441798645_VgChoL-1.jpg
Twentyover
11-16-2008, 08:59 AM
Just finished welding the quarter and new rocker in place.Still don't know if I will put some kind of bezel around vent,but it feels good to finally have parts on for keeps.Man is the car wide,I think I'll have to call it a 66 Mustang Fatbutt.Ron
fixed for you...
Chad-1stGen
11-16-2008, 06:28 PM
heh, fatback or fatbutt whatever, nice progress!
Ron S
12-03-2008, 06:52 PM
Got the quarters and rockers finished,made wheelwells out of an old Ford van side.Finally starting to look like a car again.can't wait to start on the front fenders.Ron http://57hemicuda.smugmug.com/
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/12/445663970_Q5BSsL-1.jpg
cantvalve16
12-04-2008, 12:57 AM
From someone who is looking to cut and flare his own fenders, you sir are an inspiration. Thanks for posting all your work.
cantvalve16
12-04-2008, 10:40 PM
By the way, when I come to this site, yours is the first thread I check. Love what you are doing.
aussiebj
12-05-2008, 07:03 AM
+1 i am always looking for pics and updates on your stang...
Mr.VENGEANCE
12-05-2008, 07:19 AM
i LOVE the way your car is shaping up..
and i love the wheels.. glad i got a set.
Ron S
12-05-2008, 11:50 AM
Thanks guys,its been alot of fun building this,unlike my Cuda or Camaro,which had me doing nothing but prime and sand,until I have no finger prints left.I think I'm going to put a belly pan under the back of the car,covering the fuel tank etc,because the front and center are so flat .Once thats done I figure I'll hook up the fuel line,and take it for a spin.Still have to bend the front down bars and build some coil mounts,and of course the front flares.A smear of mud and a gallon of paint and shes done.Ron
69LT1Nova
12-05-2008, 12:17 PM
Sweet. Get to it!! I love the low buck theme, and the effort put into this ride.
EL T1
12-05-2008, 01:16 PM
Man o man!! This an awesome thread every change you have done has just gotten better and better.! Car is looking beyond sick! keep it rolling!
EL T1
12-05-2008, 01:28 PM
Check out this wide body Challenger. Wheels way too big in diameter though
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/12/dsc00907JPG-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/12/dsc00923JPG-1.jpg
Ron S
12-05-2008, 02:09 PM
Some people probably hate that look,but I really like,that Challenger will probably look sick when done.Its funny how you see this stuff in your head,all you can hope for, is it to look as cool in real life as it does in your head.There is some crazy stuff going on up there.Ron
Mr.VENGEANCE
12-05-2008, 04:10 PM
dont worry.. my car has been like that since i started..
thats why i stopped showing progress.. some of my ideas are pretty wild.. and i might get bashed up unless they see it in an almost done way..
anyways.. im wondering how youre going to do the fronts to match the rears.
86MonteSS
12-05-2008, 08:45 PM
I have been following this build since the beginning and I just gotta say that your doing a awesome job. One of my favorite builds on here. Keep it going!!
Ron S
12-06-2008, 07:48 AM
im wondering how youre going to do the fronts to match the rears. [/quote]
It looks really cool up here in my cranium.I've kind of got to match the back now,so there won't be multiple revisions of the front.I wish I had Fooses artistic skills,and could do a rendering first.I will have to build a skeleton out of some round bar then skin it,because the body lines need to line up.I'm really chomping to get on that,but I want the back of the car to be complete before I start.Ron
Twentyover
12-06-2008, 08:13 AM
thats why i stopped showing progress.. some of my ideas are pretty wild.. and i might get bashed up unless they see it in an almost done way.....
This really a worry? I'm thinking this board is really understanding about different ideas
Ron S
12-06-2008, 08:57 AM
I think alot of it is worrying someone will see your ideas,use them,and finish they're car before you finish yours.
Twentyover
12-06-2008, 11:26 AM
OK, I'll buy cuda's argument. Everybody seems to do stuff faster than me...
PhillipM
12-08-2008, 04:00 PM
I think alot of it is worrying someone will see your ideas,use them,and finish they're car before you finish yours.
It's even worse when they get in a magazine with it!!!
Ron S
12-11-2008, 05:39 PM
Can't beleive I'm doing this but, the panel, and the panel beneath it was pretty rusty.The under panel isn't avalible so I'll have to make.Still can't get over how cheap the panels are,they make Camaro parts see expensive.If this car would have made it RTTH,I can guarantee it would still be driving around with jagged sheet metal all over it.Ron
Mr.VENGEANCE
12-11-2008, 05:45 PM
I think youre doing it right.. man if you did do the RTH thing you probably wouldnt have done some of the new cool things to it because of being rushed..
I think alot of it is worrying someone will see your ideas,use them,and finish they're car before you finish yours.
and get in a magazine with it.
EXACTLY..
Its not that my ideas are "bad" per se but its the fact that im not done yet.. and some of my ideas havent been done.
and weather we all like to admit it or not theres a few thieves on here..
Ron S
12-11-2008, 06:24 PM
Screwed that up!!
Ron S
12-11-2008, 06:24 PM
EXACTLY..
Its not that my ideas are "bad" per se but its the fact that im not done yet.. and some of my ideas havent been done.
and weather we all like to admit it or not theres a few thieves on here..
The fact that you found something that hasn't been done yet to a Camaro is a feat in itself LOL Ron
cantvalve16
12-11-2008, 11:36 PM
I guess you could call it idea stealing if people claim the idea as their own. To be completely honest, I look at all these project cars and get ideas from you guys all the time. Now, I don't have a Camaro or Mustang to use them on, but maybe my Ranchero can benefit a little from what I learn from you guys.
At any rate, I don't have the skills to duplicate this kind of work anyway. I just get all kinds of ideas from your stuff.
aussiebj
12-12-2008, 04:55 AM
I dont call it stealing ideas i call it inspiration it has to come from somewhere and isn`t it not quoted "That imatation is the sincerest form of flattery"..keep up the good work and ill stay inspired
Mr.VENGEANCE
12-12-2008, 07:07 AM
Heres the thing..
If you give credit to the guy who did it i agree it is NOT stealing.
Now.. theres a difference in what im talking about and being "inspired".
Theres some on here that will watch your build threads.. already in the midst of their own builds.. and see something on your that they like.. quickly add it to their own build.. FINISH it.. then get it out there like they came up with it..
THATS what im talking about.
And yea.. i did come up with something on my Camaro that noone with a camaro did.. a few things.. fun to do it tho..
I just want to have it out there as my OWN expression of my ride.. then after that they like it i dont mind.. just let me get it out there first man!
hahaha
I guess you could call it idea stealing if people claim the idea as their own. To be completely honest, I look at all these project cars and get ideas from you guys all the time. Now, I don't have a Camaro or Mustang to use them on, but maybe my Ranchero can benefit a little from what I learn from you guys.
At any rate, I don't have the skills to duplicate this kind of work anyway. I just get all kinds of ideas from your stuff.
so anyways.. lets get back to the bad ass Mustang BUILD THREAD.. back on topic!
preston
12-12-2008, 07:59 AM
Holy cow !
You guys are talking vintage Mustang fender flares ?
Count me in !
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/12/NewFrontViewMainJPG-1.jpg
Mr.VENGEANCE
12-12-2008, 08:04 AM
is that yours?
preston
12-12-2008, 08:27 AM
yeah.
I love that more people are doing fender flares, makes my deal a little more mainstream....wait....I hate that more people are doing fender flares ! :)
PhillipM
12-12-2008, 09:05 AM
Holy cow !
You guys are talking vintage Mustang fender flares ?
Count me in !
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/12/NewFrontViewMainJPG-1.jpg
Have I seen this car on CornerCarvers?
craigs73
12-12-2008, 09:33 AM
preston that car is sweet:1st:
Young Gun
12-12-2008, 10:54 AM
Have I seen this car on CornerCarvers?
yah Ive seen it there... sweet car!
David Sloan
12-12-2008, 12:25 PM
Holy cow !
You guys are talking vintage Mustang fender flares ?
Count me in !
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/12/NewFrontViewMainJPG-1.jpg
Preston were have you been?
have not see you around lately
Dont you have a web site or a build tread some were.
preston
12-12-2008, 12:39 PM
Yeah I don't want to hijack the thread but I have been excited seeing more fender flares being done. Rad rides has a car with flares, and check out these Mercedes flares:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/12/MercedesDTM2-1.jpg
(http://forums.corner-carvers.com/showthread.php?t=32889)
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/12/sl65amgblackseries45_450op-1.jpg
(http://forums.corner-carvers.com/showthread.php?t=32889)
(http://forums.corner-carvers.com/showthread.php?t=32889)Here is my build thread if you're interested. Its corner carvers so please don't post anything unless its an intelligent question or furthers the discussion somehow.
http://forums.corner-carvers.com/showthread.php?t=32889
Ron S
12-12-2008, 01:46 PM
Yeah Preston I saw the Car about two weeks ago.I had never seen that site before.Your ride is what made me join over there,and put up with the public flogging that I experienced.I think went up and down your thread 10 times.
I've just got to know,did you build that whole car, chassis and all, on that carport?That thing is wicked,I really love it.Kind of makes mine seem tame.Ron
preston
12-12-2008, 01:50 PM
Yeah, all in the F'in carport.
6 months of the year I'm loving it, the fresh air, sunshine, birds singing, the full moon at night shining down, kid playing in the yard. I'd hate being cooped up in a shop,even with dust and leaves and crap getting on everything.
The other 6 months of the year, like now.....not so much.
Mr.VENGEANCE
12-12-2008, 06:21 PM
I love that car man..
cheapta
12-13-2008, 05:42 PM
Awesome build-I love the flared-fender look,always have. I actually caught some Vintage racing on Speed today and the cars were all wide-body Monzas and Porches-think 10-foot wide Chevy Monzas breathing fire through side mount headers-YEEHAA!! There's just something about mounting up the stupidest tires you can find and stretching the body to fit.
Ron S
12-19-2008, 04:49 PM
Building the belly pan,I hate how much metal{weight} I'm putting back in the car.Should be pretty smooth on the bottom though.Ron
Restomod
12-19-2008, 05:01 PM
Hey! How did you change your user name?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Ron S
12-19-2008, 05:18 PM
I went to the Who the heck are these guys section of the open discussion .Tony L got Larry to change it for me,because I sold my Cuda at Barrett Jackson 2 years ago.Ron
Restomod
12-19-2008, 05:48 PM
Gotcha...
Norm Peterson
12-20-2008, 05:28 AM
Linky (https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50566)
Norm
Nate K
12-21-2008, 11:17 AM
Ron what fuel cell are you using?
Nate
Ron S
12-21-2008, 12:05 PM
I'm using the cheap circle track cell that Jegs sells.It is in a powder coated can,I did modify the pick up to run a internal fuel pump.Ron
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/12/488422600_wNkNaL-1.jpg
Ron S
12-21-2008, 03:28 PM
Finally got a little time to play.Fitted the tail panel, this has got to be the most like a car this thing has looked since I've owned it.I'm not going to lie, this shot gives me a bit of a chubby.Ron
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/12/456838422_srbywL-1.jpg
cantvalve16
12-21-2008, 04:08 PM
Dynomite! Can't wait to see what how the look works with what you do to the front fenders.
Nate K
12-21-2008, 06:36 PM
I'm using the cheap circle track cell that Jegs sells.It is in a powder coated can,I did modify the pick up to run a internal fuel pump.Ron
They list them with a right rear pickup when you had yours apart did it look like you could modify it to pickup from both sides.
Ron S
12-21-2008, 07:03 PM
It would easy to modify,its nothing but an aluminum peice of tubing.I don't know if a dual pick up would work.If it sucked air from either side it would cause the same lose of prime.At least I think it would?Ron
craigs73
12-21-2008, 08:53 PM
i like the rear flars alot better:1st: now how about those front fenders :yum:
Twentyover
12-22-2008, 10:47 AM
Finally got a little time to play.Fitted the tail panel, this has got to be the most like a car this thing has looked since I've owned it.I'm not going to lie, this shot gives me a bit of a chubby.Ron
Think it does to most of us. Only in a testosterone laden, manly way though
Ron S
12-29-2008, 04:06 PM
With all the bending and stretching of all this sheet metal,I was worried about fitting the glass and tail panel,but they were a perfect fit.
With all the different cars I've backhalved thru the years,it always amazed me how out of square the bodies get.I guess its just years of holeshots takes its toll on the sheetmetal.It was kind of nice starting with something you knew was straight and square.
You can kind of get an idea of truley how much bulge there is in that quarter panel,from the pic.Ron
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/12/445664108_xt9nPL-1.jpg
Restomod
12-29-2008, 04:31 PM
YEAH man looking good!! Cant wait to see it with the fronts done.
Mr.VENGEANCE
12-29-2008, 04:34 PM
i love it..
dusterbd13
12-29-2008, 04:49 PM
this thing is sick.
you sir, are my hero.
Michael
nicks67camaro
12-29-2008, 05:12 PM
love it!
Simbad68
12-29-2008, 07:22 PM
:worship:
preston
12-30-2008, 08:21 AM
Yeah that's how my coupe body was. Get the front tip on center, line up the door posts perpindicular to the center line, and the back end of hte car is 1" off center. I tried twisting the roof around, also tried isting it so front and rear are on center, but then the firewall and front clip would have been askew. It might seem weird when you're building and attaching everything from scratch to a tube frame that you can't line it up, but the entire body indexes off the roof and that's what I was stuck with. YOu have to budget your time somewhere and I wasn't ready to start pie cutting and welding the roof and sail panels, although in retrospect it might have been worth it for building my "dream car".
I too am eagerly awaiting the front flares.
craigs73
12-30-2008, 11:42 AM
:1st:
Ron S
12-30-2008, 02:38 PM
Yeah that's how my coupe body was. Get the front tip on center, line up the door posts perpindicular to the center line, and the back end of hte car is 1" off center. I tried twisting the roof around, also tried isting it so front and rear are on center, but then the firewall and front clip would have been askew. It might seem weird when you're building and attaching everything from scratch to a tube frame that you can't line it up, but the entire body indexes off the roof and that's what I was stuck with. YOu have to budget your time somewhere and I wasn't ready to start pie cutting and welding the roof and sail panels, although in retrospect it might have been worth it for building my "dream car".
I too am eagerly awaiting the front flares.
Don't sweat it Preston,we all have to come to a happy medium.I did a car a couple years ago,that I built the rear frame for, X'ed the corners, knew it was square.When I tried to install it in the car,the tire hit on the one side and was 2" in on the other.When I measured the car using string and tape measures,it was like 3" out of square,and didn't have any evidence of being wrecked. That is why I was so suprised as to how straight and square this body fit on this frame.
I also bought a new subframe for my Camaro from a manufacture that will remain nameless.Couldn't get to bolt in the car{thought the car was tweeked}When I got the tape measure out and X'ed the corners on the subframe, it was 1.75" out of square.The frame was never shipped went right from they're shop into my truck,so it didn't get bent it shipment.
It was then that I desided that I could build it better then that.There are some quality manufactures out there though,that build some really nice parts.It pays to do your homework.Ron
Lygdman
01-01-2009, 01:45 AM
love it!:jump:
Ron S
01-05-2009, 06:05 PM
Coming down to the end on the back half of the car.just won these brake ducts for the rear.Really cool because they just hose clamp on to the 3" axle tube and are carbon fiber,they weigh nothing.$34{old nascar parts.}Ron
ill steez
01-06-2009, 10:18 AM
those are really cool! where would we be able to find something like that?
Ron S
01-06-2009, 11:36 AM
I think, new these things are like $275.I got these off ebay,they are used nascar parts.I was going to use a peice of 3" exhaust tubing for fabbing up brake vents,but for $34,I figured what the hell.Ron
dropit69
01-06-2009, 01:59 PM
hey Ron got an idea of how much you have in it so far?..and take a week off to come help me with mine ..you kick some major ass on things..wow
Ron S
01-06-2009, 04:22 PM
I really haven't spent any money on the car{other then the brake ducts}in quite a while.I should be some where around $6300.00.I just can't get any time to work on the thing,just 15 minutes here and 30 minutes there.I will post a list of what was spent when the car is done,there has been a little cheating here and there,but other then a few trades,its all been frugal shopping,and lots of labor.WAY TOO MUCH LABOR.Ron
PARKERRS
01-06-2009, 04:57 PM
Now, now Ron, it's supposed to be a labor of love LOL.
Tommy
Payton King
01-07-2009, 07:05 AM
I hope you are doing well and can make it back down to RTTH. Not planning on breaking next time and you need to take my car for a few laps around the track.
It appears that you have a set of Speedlines on that thing. I missed a set with a GM spacing a few months ago and have been looking for a set since then. Where did you get them?
Ron S
01-07-2009, 01:55 PM
Hey Payton,I actually got the wheels off Ebay.The guy guy I got them from had 10 sets left at that time,but I would amagine that they are all gone by now.I paid $900 for the set.I turned David Sloan on to them,I think he bought 2 or 3 sets of them,maybe he'd consider getting off a set.Did you get any bites on your car?real bad time to be selling!Ron
Ron S
01-07-2009, 05:19 PM
Had to pull the belly pan and tail panel off one last time before final welding.Didn't think about the fact that with the belly pan installed and the cars low ride height,it would make it near to impossible to strap the car down on the trailer.So I had to fab some brackets that attach to the frame.The car won't run any bumpers.so it will have tow strap loops in place of the bumper brackets.Should be nice to strap down,I won't even have to crawl under the car.I will do the same in the front.Ron
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/453925599_EhHuaL-1.jpg
Ron S
01-08-2009, 04:28 PM
Tail panel back on and toe hooks fabbed and installed.Hope I never get rear ended,this thing is a truck.Ron
dropit69
01-08-2009, 04:49 PM
plan on pulling cars out of the ditch with that tiedown..holy crap..lol...car is looking good..
Ron S
01-08-2009, 04:55 PM
I don't want it to fall off.Gotta build out of whats laying around,I did have to go in and drill a bunch of holes in the inner brackets to lighten them up.Ron
PARKERRS
01-08-2009, 05:56 PM
Now thats what I call heavy duty right there, I don't care who you are. ( In a Larry the cable guy voice) LOL
Tommy
Throttle
01-14-2009, 12:00 PM
Nice Work, I have been watching this thread and then my brother got a 66 Mustang so now Im looking at what you have done to make it to where you can fit more then a 235 under the back of these cars.. :D
Ron S
01-14-2009, 01:48 PM
Yeah big Tars are cool.Ron
Young Gun
01-14-2009, 02:18 PM
such a badass build...
Restomod
01-14-2009, 05:29 PM
You have inspired me to start my own $5000 budget build. I am collecting parts now....(incert EVIL haugh here!) Build thread coming soon.
Ron S
01-14-2009, 06:07 PM
Cheap=Fun. LOL
I think I'm going to start some body work,and put a weekend scratch and squirt on it.Any ideas on color?The hood and tops of the fenders are going flat black.
Young Gun
01-14-2009, 06:51 PM
since your doing the budget build you gotta do a budget paint... the 50 dollar roller job... or spray...
http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=2331682&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1
Ron S
01-14-2009, 07:00 PM
The car really won't need that much paint,sides and top.hood and tops of fenders go John Deere black.I've sprayed color on quite a few cars thru the years,I'm thinking of red,but I'll be looking thru the bad mix shelf of my local paint supplier.Should be able to find something I like.Ron
Restomod
01-14-2009, 07:35 PM
Black on top and silver down the sides????
slowcamaro
01-14-2009, 09:14 PM
Tail panel back on and toe hooks fabbed and installed.Hope I never get rear ended,this thing is a truck.Ron
Thats not the battery "box" on the out side of the frame rail is it? Seems like its awfully exposed, not in the dirt and gravel sense, but in the collision sense.
Ron S
01-15-2009, 03:05 AM
From that picture it does look pretty fragile.Once the C channel that goes across the back of the car is in place and all the rest of the sheet metal is installed,its pretty well protected.And its right where you you want that weight,low and to the back.Look where the battery is on a Camaro from the factory,right out on the nose,more likely to see carnage there,then glued to the side of 2x4 .125 wall tubing.That is alot of heavy metal to bend ,I'm not remotely scared.Ron
jackfrost
01-15-2009, 10:07 AM
i don't think there's any question that this car has to be black. :razz:
slowcamaro
01-15-2009, 10:49 AM
From that picture it does look pretty fragile.Once the C channel that goes across the back of the car is in place and all the rest of the sheet metal is installed,its pretty well protected.And its right where you you want that weight,low and to the back.Look where the battery is on a Camaro from the factory,right out on the nose,more likely to see carnage there,then glued to the side of 2x4 .125 wall tubing.That is alot of heavy metal to bend ,I'm not remotely scared.Ron
I guess I'll have to see the finished structure before I make any more assumptions. Just looks like a hit from the side, could really make a mess of things. Logic to me just says it one of those crucial items I'd like confined with the structural parts of the car.
Low and in the rear. This brings up the PMI vs weight distribution topic. Is low and in the rear really optimal? I've debated back and forth myself with where I will relocate the battery, I think my straw will be wiring simplicity, and where I mount the shut off switch. Either way I it will be contained within the structure. Don't want some crushed sheet metal shorting anything out.
Hopefully the folks who see actual track damage and are familiar with the various organizational standards will provide some insight. Perhaps there are already some general rules in existence that exist for a specific reason.
Either way the car looks awesome. I hope my comments aren't out of line. Are you still in Maryland? I'm sure I'm at the other end of the state regardless. Cumberland.
Ron S
01-15-2009, 10:50 AM
Black!!!Your killing me Jackfrost.Then I'll have to do more then a scratch and squirt.I was thinking more like white,or some extreme color,to hide my lack of effort on body work.This is still supposed to be a budget,lack of perfection build. My Camaro will probably be black,it is the best car color{as long as its straight}.Ron
Ron S
01-15-2009, 11:01 AM
I guess I'll have to see the finished structure before I make any more assumptions. Just looks like a hit from the side, could really make a mess of things. Logic to me just says it one of those crucial items I'd like confined with the structural parts of the car.
Low and in the rear. This brings up the PMI vs weight distribution topic. Is low and in the rear really optimal? I've debated back and forth myself with where I will relocate the battery, I think my straw will be wiring simplicity, and where I mount the shut off switch. Either way I it will be contained within the structure. Don't want some crushed sheet metal shorting anything out.
Hopefully the folks who see actual track damage and are familiar with the various organizational standards will provide some insight. Perhaps there are already some general rules in existence that exist for a specific reason.
Either way the car looks awesome. I hope my comments aren't out of line. Are you still in Maryland? I'm sure I'm at the other end of the state regardless. Cumberland.
No your comments aren't out of line,I like the input.The back of the car is pretty much done now,thet battery has plenty of protection,way too much steel in this car.
I'm in Harford county near Belair.My Uncle owns a hunting lodge in Deep Creek,so I get to the Western side of the state every once in a while.Not too many Maryland guys on the board.GO RAVENS
slowcamaro
01-15-2009, 11:38 AM
Yeah, I'm still Houston now. I guess I have to try to get my car presentable when I get home in case I catch you up at this end of the state sometime.
Norm Peterson
01-15-2009, 12:14 PM
to hide my lack of effort on body work.This is still supposed to be a budget,lack of perfection build.
Lose most (but not all) of the gloss from the black and I think you'd still have your $5000-ish level of effort - and the image to go with it (all the good stuff stays sort of hidden :) ).
Norm
jackfrost
01-16-2009, 10:12 AM
Lose most (but not all) of the gloss from the black and I think you'd still have your $5000-ish level of effort - and the image to go with it (all the good stuff stays sort of hidden :) ).
exactly. after a couple of "badges of honor" it'll be perfect.
ill steez
01-16-2009, 02:41 PM
i for one will vote against black/flat black. this is obviously going to be entirely your call, but i think white would look really cool... or this color off audi TT: "nimbus grey"
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif
indyjps
01-18-2009, 12:44 PM
silver is light enough to hide a lot of things. I vote for whatever is in the wrong mix paint bin.
67.5vette
01-18-2009, 08:22 PM
What about satin/flat silver?
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/2089499810_eb8c05bb99_o-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/mille_miglia_500-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/untitled1-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/AutoShow_2006_033-1.jpg
claytonisbob
01-19-2009, 02:30 AM
^^^ Nothing like a Porshe with leather straps to hold the hood down.
Should try that look on a 60's muscle car.
Ron S
01-19-2009, 04:39 AM
That kind of looks like someone put down the base coat and didn't put on the clear.Kind of cool looking,does anyone here actually know how that process is done?Ron
craigs73
01-19-2009, 06:10 AM
hey ron are you talking about the flat silver because that makes me want to paint my car that color never seen a flat silver but very sweet
Ron S
01-19-2009, 07:00 AM
I was talking about flat any color.It looks like plain basecoat?? Ron
Norm Peterson
01-19-2009, 07:08 AM
Low-$ repaint job in original colors
https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=25750&d=1220475343
Norm
hotrdblder
01-19-2009, 11:40 AM
ron, standox and other high end paints have some killer satin and flat clears out there. standox 007 flat clear is killer.
Ron S
01-19-2009, 04:41 PM
Thanks Jake,have you ever sprayed it?Any idea of how it lays down?Trying to get all the stupid stuff done,even the aprons required alot of fitting to get the lines right.The quarters grew about 4"in length,I don't know what made me think the apron would fit.Ron
hotrdblder
01-19-2009, 06:15 PM
ron it lays down really really nice. very flat, plus because its flat(no gloss) it doesn't need to be like glass, but it lays flatter then most reg clear.
thrash from rad rides uses it all the time on schemes etc
Ron S
01-19-2009, 06:53 PM
Thanks Jake,I was going through my paint stuff tonight,found a new gallon of PPG clear,probably left from my Cuda.So the car will probably be shiny.I have several quarts of different colors,not enough to cover the whole car,but I'll probably use one of them as a first coat to make what ever paint I buy go farther.I still have a couple more nights on the back of the car,and then i have to tackle the front fenders.
Jake are you going to the Year one event down in Atlanta,in May?
hotrdblder
01-20-2009, 04:44 AM
Thanks Jake,I was going through my paint stuff tonight,found a new gallon of PPG clear,probably left from my Cuda.So the car will probably be shiny.I have several quarts of different colors,not enough to cover the whole car,but I'll probably use one of them as a first coat to make what ever paint I buy go farther.I still have a couple more nights on the back of the car,and then i have to tackle the front fenders.
Jake are you going to the Year one event down in Atlanta,in May?
Yes I hope to be there.
Restomod
01-20-2009, 04:44 AM
You could flatten the gal. of clear you have.
cantvalve16
01-20-2009, 09:35 AM
Seems like the flat would allow some of the details to be hidden.
Would be cool to go with shiny paint and be able to say the whole car was done for less than 10g's.
Ron S
01-20-2009, 11:27 AM
I need to buy a gallon of mud,I think i have enough primer around here,and I do Have a gallon of clear.I will need two quarts of color and catylist for the clear.I'm hoping the paint job stays und $250.and the car stays under $7k.Ron
Ron S
02-01-2009, 06:56 AM
Finally got all,and I mean all of the welding done on the back of this car,stripped it and put it in DP90,which was probably way past its use date.I guess I'll flip a coin as to whether I'll start smearing mud,or turn the car around and start on the front fenders.Ron
55chevyman
02-01-2009, 07:22 AM
Looks great Ron, keep it up! I say do the front fenders.
cantvalve16
02-02-2009, 09:14 AM
Ron, I think you could drive that thing around without covering the welds with mud. That way, all the work you put into it would be exposed. It just has such a raw/industrial look to it with the welds and DP90 showing.
MrQuick
02-02-2009, 11:33 AM
Phenomenal work Ron, Very inspiring.
Ron S
02-02-2009, 11:56 AM
Ron, I think you could drive that thing around without covering the welds with mud. That way, all the work you put into it would be exposed. It just has such a raw/industrial look to it with the welds and DP90 showing.
Originally,when I was rushing to get ready for RTTH,the quarters were installed with zip screws.It truely was a grungy build,when I didn't make it,I desided to take the time to finish it up right{it didn't cost anymore money to finish it right} So after all the work I'm going to have to put it in color{not super slick paint,but paint}
Ron S
02-02-2009, 04:47 PM
Started fabbing the fenders when I got home from work tonight.Although I know there is about 6" to cover up,I'm still amazed how big the bulges are.Got the back half of the passanger sided tacked together.What do you think?tToo crazy looking?
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/02/467787146_N5exRL-1.jpg
dusterbd13
02-02-2009, 04:51 PM
reminds me of a widebody kit i saw on a civic here in town. only not ****ty.
looks great, and evil. i love it.
and suede yellow, like that vintage trans am cars. i saw a picture once...
Michael
Restomod
02-02-2009, 04:57 PM
Started fabbing the fenders.What do you think?tToo crazy looking?
Nope ,looks about right!
Memphis
02-02-2009, 07:35 PM
That is sick! I am sure you could build and sell those :)
syborg tt
02-02-2009, 07:41 PM
Finally got all,and I mean all of the welding done on the back of this car,stripped it and put it in DP90,which was probably way past its use date.I guess I'll flip a coin as to whether I'll start smearing mud,or turn the car around and start on the front fenders.Ron
Ron
Love the look of the rear quarter
Mr.VENGEANCE
02-02-2009, 09:24 PM
i fackin lovit..
Roger M
02-02-2009, 09:27 PM
^ what he said. Nice work Ron!
cantvalve16
02-02-2009, 11:02 PM
Love it! That is so inspiring. Thank you so much for putting up pics.
I am trying to understand how you are doing it though. Are you adding metal or just manipulating what is there?
Ron S
02-03-2009, 05:53 AM
Well,first I have to think about it while I'm trying to sleep for about 3 days straight.LOL I actualy shape the wheelwell opening first with a 1/4" roundbar,and make sure the tire clears.Most of the metal is peices of the fender and scrap left over from the quarter panels,if you where to measure the fender end to end,it would be about 5" longer then a factory fender due to the bulge.I'm hoping to get the front half done tonight.Ron
Bow Tie 67
02-03-2009, 06:21 AM
I like it, reminds me of the Red GTO track car. I'm thinking this thing will haul A** and handle.
jackfrost
02-03-2009, 09:09 AM
perfect. keep doing what you're doing.
poormans69
02-03-2009, 02:30 PM
You, my friend, are my hero. Not to spit in the faces of all the huge budget builds, but this is what it is about. Bargain basement, Yankee ingenuity.
Ron S
02-04-2009, 01:55 PM
Finished roughing in the passenger side fender last night,when I walked out tonight and looked at all the different peices stitched on to this one body.I usually don't name my cars,but this thing just looked like Frankenstien or Frankenstang.The Vette wheels allow me to put the sheet metal right there on the tires{love the look}.Ron
hotrdblder
02-04-2009, 02:02 PM
nice work ron,looks killer:smoke:
Rybar
02-04-2009, 02:40 PM
Does look killer, nice work Ron
Restomod
02-04-2009, 03:00 PM
Yep!!
Mr.VENGEANCE
02-04-2009, 04:07 PM
your my hero Ron.. my fackin hero..
cantvalve16
02-04-2009, 06:55 PM
Ron.... that looks phenominal. You have made that body the new Mustang should have got. You are an inspiration to the way I look at a build.
srh3trinity
02-04-2009, 08:13 PM
That second shot is money, seeing this car coming together has been a blast. Thanks for sharing.
Damn True
02-04-2009, 08:35 PM
The Fab-fu force is strong with this one.
ProTouring442
02-05-2009, 04:03 AM
Holy Wow Batman! My wife is going to kill me though, I just drooled all in my keyboard... probably shorted the thing out!
Looks cool!
Shiny Side Up!
Bill
Throttle
02-07-2009, 07:19 AM
That looks real good, keep them coming..
Ron S
02-08-2009, 06:01 PM
I knew I wasn't going to be able to use factory hinges,and front portion of the cage is landing right where the hinges would be.I figured I'd hinge the hood in reverse,but didn't realize how hard it would be.The nose of the car is so far past the pivot point, the hinges had to lift up before they pivot out.Took a whole day to calculate and fab some mock ups.Ron
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/02/483609752_cKJekL-1.jpg
Restomod
02-08-2009, 06:21 PM
I knew I wasn't going to be able to use factory hinges,and front portion of the cage is landing right where the hinges would be.I figured I'd hinge the hood in reverse,but didn't realize how hard it would be.The nose of the car is so far past the pivot point, the hinges had to lift up before they pivot out.Took a whole day to calculate and fab some mock ups.Ron
Should have picked up a pair from a C5, they do about the same thing.
Payton King
02-09-2009, 05:55 AM
OK, now you are just showing off. LOL
Killer work my man!
PARKERRS
02-09-2009, 06:01 AM
^^^^X2, SHOW OFF!
LOL, keep the pics coming, it's shaping up fast now Ron.
Ron S
02-09-2009, 09:33 AM
I've only met Payton once and Tommy twice,and both of you had really,really nice cars when I saw them.I was driving a pick up truck,who's showing off??? LOL Ron
Payton King
02-09-2009, 10:10 AM
I really like this mustang you are building...it is way more my style. I am just an old redneck from Arkansas. I am the first generation of my family that does not keep cars in the front yard on blocks.
Ron S
02-10-2009, 04:10 PM
I got a couple of the down bars bent and welded,I've still got to put the tie bars in and build the radiator mounts on them.Once the radiator is in,I can finally cross my fingers,and fire the thing up and pray all these junk parts work.Ron
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/02/483609733_bzNDuL-1.jpg
Vinz68
02-10-2009, 05:38 PM
This car looks INSANE!!!! I love it. Can I drive it at RTTH's.....lol
Ron S
02-13-2009, 05:24 PM
Got a chance to scale my car tonight.It weighed 2750 pounds,with no fuel or driver.Just under 3100 pounds with me a full tank of fuel.Glass isn't in the car yet,so I had to weigh it and put dummbells in place of the glass.That back window is 34 pounds by itself.Makes me think lexan.
The good part was that the car had just about perfect 50/50 weight distribution.Can't get over how acuate the scales are.The car was exactly 26 pounds heavy over the right rear tire were thw battery was.
I was really getting scared that this was going to be a tank.I talked to a fiberglass company about making molds for the front fenders,incorporating the headlight buckets and rings,they are getting back to me,if its not to bad I might do it.Ron
1971CHEVELLE
02-13-2009, 05:31 PM
this car is going to be awesome. Good work
vancouver67
02-16-2009, 12:39 PM
this project is looking absolutely sick. Can not wait to see the finished result.
Ron S
02-18-2009, 05:55 PM
Got the coil and radiator mounts made,need to scrounge up some hoses and make up the spark plug wires.I'm temped to use this Corvette MAF and intake,it kind of matches the Corvette calipers.It may get me some finger gestures from the Ford pureists.This thing is finally coming together.Ron
tony byram
02-18-2009, 06:24 PM
That car is awesome Ron, great job on the flares, looks like it would be hard to keep them the correct proportions for the car, but you pulled it off. Looking at the stitch welds in the pictures you posted they look like surgical stitches. I think the name you suggested "franenstang" would be a great name. It really looks great,keep us posted. Great job, you are a true craftsman.:twothumbs
cantvalve16
02-18-2009, 11:13 PM
Don't sweat the Ford guys, Ron. If the LS motor between the rails doesn't get and the intake tube does... well then they deserve to stew in their own jealousy.
David Sloan
02-19-2009, 04:39 AM
Don't sweat the Ford guys, Ron. If the LS motor between the rails doesn't get and the intake tube does... well then they deserve to stew in their own jealousy.
Ya just spank there collective A$$$$ an let them cry about it.LOL!!
cees67
02-19-2009, 04:48 AM
i love this thing!
Ron S
03-01-2009, 02:42 PM
Getting the brakes and hydraulic clutch up,love the way the fender comes off with just 4 bolts and the hood lifts totally out of the way.
Young Gun
03-01-2009, 03:28 PM
lookin sweet!!!!
muthstryker
03-01-2009, 03:47 PM
nice, looks really good.
craigs73
03-01-2009, 04:33 PM
sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeetttttttt:1st:
David Sloan
03-02-2009, 08:00 AM
Ron
Your going to have that thing done for the Peach State Musclecar Challenge.
Cant wait to see it run the cones!!
Restomod
03-02-2009, 08:11 AM
Hey Ron how much $ you up to on that???
Ron S
03-02-2009, 09:41 AM
Just made what I'm hoping is may last order from Summit this morning.All the fittings and crap add up quick,I'm still under $7000,but with the windsheild and paint,I'll definitely be over.I'll be in Georgia though,hope I get a chance to log some miles on it,the trans is my biggest worry,have no idea if it will work or not.i guess we'll see.Ron
Payton King
03-02-2009, 11:25 AM
this one on the road. Hope to see you in GA
icebird84
03-02-2009, 11:36 AM
looking good
https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=28569&d=1235008531
ProMav71
03-02-2009, 01:34 PM
I need a set of those tilt front hinges! Awesome work.
SVTforme
03-02-2009, 08:26 PM
Looks great! Things are really starting to fall into place now!
Ron S
03-09-2009, 10:29 AM
Down to the last things before fire up,some wiring and this fuel pump that I've been dancing around along time.Finally fabbed it up and powder coated it last night.Used a cheap circle track Jegs cell in the powder coated can with the Ebay Walbro 255 fuel pump.Fabbed a new top with the reservoir,filler, and wiring.The whole set up cost about $375.Pretty tight space wise,should fire it up tonight or tommorrow.Ron
Krazed
03-09-2009, 11:39 AM
Good luck! :twothumbs
1971CHEVELLE
03-09-2009, 12:51 PM
Looks great
Ron S
03-14-2009, 02:53 PM
Finally fired the LS1 for the first time runs great, the Ram hydraulic throw out bearing is leaking out of the bellhousing though. So I'll pull the trans back out tommorrow.Sometimes I hate aftermarket parts!!! Engine has the Z06 cam in it, and is no where near lopey enough, even with open headers, smooth as silk. I'll see how it runs once the clutch is fixed and maybe upgrade the cam to something more aggressive. Ron
preston
03-16-2009, 06:54 AM
other than engine problems, there is nothing worse than firing up a new engine and having clutch issues. That's happened to me 3 times. I hate pulling trannies. One time I didn't secure the braided lines to the T/O and sliced them right open the first time it fired.
That's funny about the cam, I've spent my whole hot rodding career trying to get a mellower idle. 15" vacuum is about as rough as I like.
Ron S
03-16-2009, 02:05 PM
Pulled the trans yesterday,found brand new Ram throwout bearing with fluid running right through it.Man that cheeses me off,after spending an hour to be sure it was shimmed properly.I never even had the pedal hooked to the master cylinder yet,so I know it wasn't overextended.
Its funny Preston that engine, with that cam and heads is GM rated at 405 hp,but to hear it run you'd think it was a Ford Escort.I'm hoping with the proper tune,I can get 400 rwhp out of it. Ron
David Sloan
03-17-2009, 03:52 AM
Finally fired the LS1 for the first time runs great, the Ram hydraulic throw out bearing is leaking out of the bellhousing though. So I'll pull the trans back out tommorrow.Sometimes I hate aftermarket parts!!! Engine has the Z06 cam in it, and is no where near lopey enough, even with open headers, smooth as silk. I'll see how it runs once the clutch is fixed and maybe upgrade the cam to something more aggressive. Ron
Any ideas on cam selection i got the same problem,
a stock 2001 zo6 motor with a Kinsler fuel injection that needs a cam.
http://www.roadkillerkustoms.com/wp-content/gallery/killer-orange/road-killer-pics-killer-orange-camaro-motor.jpg
Just would not be right to open the hood an see this purring like a kitten
Oh ya ! get that thing done a bring it to The Ga Bash
https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53213
Let me know if i can help in any way. I really like this car!
Ron S
03-17-2009, 04:23 AM
It will be ready for your event Dave.That reminds me I need to make some reservations.
I've got a 6.0 setting on an engine stand for my Camaro,new L92's and a big Crane cam setting on the shelf for it.Its everything I can do to keep myself from slamming it in that Mustang.But that wouldn't be a budget Mustang now would it,besides its the new parts that have been kicking my ass,all the used junk has performed flawlessly{at least so far}.Ron
Payton King
03-17-2009, 06:29 AM
The aftermarket TO bearing must be terrible. Had a friend do a trans for a guy and a brand new one did exactly the same thing. Can you not use a GM unit?
I am running a 230-230 on a 110 lsa with .598 lift and a few other things including heads to make 425 at the wheels. I have it idling at 950 but if I take it down to 650 it sounds real mean. If I remember correctly there is a cam that people would run if they were doing a cam only. I think it is a comp grind like 224 on a 112 with .550 lift. May want to give them a call. The Z06 heads flow well out of the box and you may be able to get away with a little more cam than the 224.
I can appreciate the budget thing, but I sure would like to see the other motor in there.
Ron S
03-17-2009, 11:09 AM
Beleive me Payton,when the new throw out bearing comes on Wed. and I get a chance to beat on the car.If I'm not satisfied with the performance of whats in there,I can change that engine in about 4 hrs,its real easy with the way the front end comes off.That Z06 cam might be good for AutoXing though,alot of low end pull.The bad part is the Camaro 6.0, blowproof and TKO600,keep calling my name,its been taking all my willpower to look away.LOL Ron
Payton King
03-17-2009, 11:20 AM
The hot cam to run with one of those "maggie" blowers is the very same one that you have now. The lobe seperation on that thing is like 115.
I am guess the car will scoot being what? 2900 lbs.
Ron S
03-17-2009, 11:54 AM
The car was 2750 dry,but with a full tank of fuel and my 210 lbs in it,she will probably be about 3100 lbs.I'm thinking about a turbo setup,but I really need to debug the rest of the car first.I've still got alot of prettying to do before Georgia,car looks pretty mean though.
David Sloan
03-17-2009, 05:26 PM
It will be ready for your event Dave.That reminds me I need to make some reservations.
:idea:I have 20 rooms reserved right now. i will have a link up as soon as i talk to the manager again
I've got a 6.0 setting on an engine stand for my Camaro,new L92's and a big Crane cam setting on the shelf for it.Its everything I can do to keep myself from slamming it in that Mustang.But that wouldn't be a budget Mustang now would it,besides its the new parts that have been kicking my ass,all the used junk has performed flawlessly{at least so far}.Ron
I know the feeling. LOL!! I must resist, I must resist.LOL!!
I cant wait to see this thing, its one of my fav. builds.
It will be good to see you guys again.
Ron S
03-19-2009, 04:46 PM
Finally drove the car for the first time tonight,kind of looked like a dunebuggy.Felt good to finally have it move on its own power.Time to start making it look good.Ron
Young Gun
03-19-2009, 06:36 PM
sweet!
PARKERRS
03-20-2009, 04:12 AM
lookin good Ron. How did she run?
Ron S
03-20-2009, 04:28 AM
Runs great Tom,weather was kind of crappy around here,didn't get to really beat on it.Homemade mufflers sound pretty good,but man is that ZO6 cam mild sounding.My pickup sounds more radical then this thing,feels pretty snappy though.Ron
Payton King
03-20-2009, 05:39 AM
You have to be all jacked up about finally driving it!
So are you leaving the motor the way it is or are you going to do a quick cam change?
Ron S
03-20-2009, 09:33 AM
For right now it will stay the way it is. I've got alot of prettying up to do, but I definitly see a cam swap in its future.Maybe some turbos too.Ron
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