Second Skin Sound Deadening Give-Away Thread #2

[Second Skin Rep]

Second Skin Sound Deadening Give-Away 2 of 6

The first 5 people to reply to this thread will a free gift from us.



Here are the rules:

- The first 2 people to reply to this thread will get a Damplifier Pro (http://www.secondskinaudio.com/vibration-mat/damplifier-pro.php) Door Pack, the next 3 will each get the Quart of Spectrum Noise Coating (http://www.secondskinaudio.com/sound-deadener/spectrum.php). No exceptions to this rule!

- Once you have won once, please do not try to win again. Only 1 gift per person, screen name, house address, IP Address or family or other situation.

- Gift is only available to Pro-Touring.com registered members with a US shipping addresses.

- Shipping cost included. You pay nothing.

- Please do not sell the gift. If you win, please use it. If you have no use for it, please allow someone else a chance to win and don't reply to the thread.

Thanks for playing and lets start giving away some stuff!



ANT
Second Skin Sound Deadener (http://www.secondskinaudio.com)

[wiedemab]

Sign me up - Awesome!

I can use this on my Truck For Sure!

Thanks a million

[4birdman]

:)

(but I feel bad getting free stuff again because you just sponsored the PD build, but I can use it on one of my other cars!)

[6'9"Witha69]

Woohoo. #3!!

[Damn True]

I'm in!

[mpozzi]

And me too!!!

Cheers,
Mary Pozzi

[Orange Crush]

Me too!

[DRJDVM's '69]

Me too...if I'm not too late...

[GM_muscle]

me too

[Bow Tie 67]

At least it took 20 min this time. Congrats to all the winners.

[Second Skin Rep]

Congrats to the winners!

wiedemab - Damplifier Pro Door Pack
4birdman- Damplifier Pro Door Pack
6'9"Witha69 - 1 quart Spectrum noise coating
Damn True - 1 quart Spectrum noise coating
mpozzi- 1 quart Spectrum noise coating

Please PM me your full name and US shipping address.
I'll get everything out to you in tomorrows UPS.

ANT
www.secondskinaudio.com

[SatisTraction]

ERRRRRRR, i hate that i missed it but congrats!!!!

nice way to keep the board busy!!

[6'9"Witha69]

How much Mat would be needed to do a '69 Camaro? Might as well get it all at once.

[Damn True]

Same question for the Spectrum coating.

[Second Skin Rep]

How much Mat would be needed to do a '69 Camaro? Might as well get it all at once.

The amount of sound deadening mat you use is dependant on your specific goals. With vibration damping and structure borne noise, the more you do, the better the results will be.

There is a point of diminishing returns for each of the products we sell, which is why we have so many options.
Since structure borne noise can account for as much as 60% of the unwanted noise in a car, you really have to do a good job on the vibration control before you start using any of the other barriers, filters or foams that help reduce airborne noise.

If you did the entire car in Damplifier or Damplifier Pro, and nothing else, you would need about 120-160 sq feet.

I have had some guys load us 240 -300 sq feet in cars this size.
More than I would use or suggest using, but some guys go nuts.

If you are only going to use Spectrum, our noise coating a 5 gallon pail is a nice start for cars that size. I wouldn’t use less.
Ideally, 8 gallons is about right.
This will allow you to do the interior and undercoating of the car.

The best results are always achieved with a combination of both the Damplifier Pro and Spectrum.

Our most popular foundation for cars of this size is 80 sq feet of Damplifier Pro and 5 gallons of Spectrum.
We sell more of that combo than any other.
Truly amazing!

Hope that helps

ANT
www.secondskinaudio.com (http://www.secondskinaudio.com/)

[Damn True]

So with the intent of having a car that is comfortable to ride in but by no means a Mercedes and wanting to keep the weight contribution minimal. Could you suggest a plan for the use of the two products?

I.E. "put the spectrum in these places and the damplifier in these places for best result."

[6'9"Witha69]

Yeah. Good for a track/street car and better than stock.

[69camarokid]

awwww... and now im sad.... no free stuff for the kids

[Second Skin Rep]

So with the intent of having a car that is comfortable to ride in but by no means a Mercedes and wanting to keep the weight contribution minimal. Could you suggest a plan for the use of the two products?

I.E. "put the spectrum in these places and the damplifier in these places for best result."

Give me an idea of how much weight you don't mind adding.
If I have some sort of limit, I can do a much better job for you.

ANT

[Damn True]

I'd like it to weigh less than the stock material.

If it contributes 100-150lbs I suppose I could live with it. But I know of people who have put over 200lbs of dynamat in their cars. No way am I going that far.

What I'm thinking of doing is applying the spectrum darn near everywhere and using the damplifier in the doors, on the roof, rear bulkhead and floor pans.

Is the stuff best used by placing the material in a large field to damp (mass attenuation) vibration, or is it intended to entirely cover surfaces (insulation)?

Sidebar: What is the efficacy of this stuff in terms of insulating against heat?

[Damn True]

bump so the rep sees it

[Damn True]

Bump again

[Second Skin Rep]

No reason you have to add 200 lbs to get good results.
In the old days, sound deadening worked by adding weight to the panel. The more mass there was, the harder it was to get that panel to vibrate. Mass still plays a roll in vibration damping, but not nearly as much. Now we use Constrained Layer Viscoelastic Dampers that convert the vibrations in to heat. This conversion of energy is over 300% more efficeint at damping noise than the old mass loaders.

To go with your suggestions of using spectrum everywhere and the Damplifier Pro mat in select areas I would go with somthing like this:

1 shop pack Damplifier or Damplifier Pro - 35-44 lbs
5 Gallons Spectrum - 9 lbs per gallon once cured
(add 2 or 3 gallons for an undercoating)

This would be a great foundation. The results would be extremely noticable and would make most anyone very happy.

If it were my car, I would go with somthing like this:
1 Shop pack Damplifier Pro - 80 sq feet - 44 lbs installed
1 Bulk Pack Damplifier Pro - 36 sq feet - 20 lbs installed
5 Gallons Spectrum - 8 lbs each once cured
10 sheets Overkill Pro - 22 lbs

This would make your car amazingly quiet and much more cool (temp wise)
Hope that answeres your questions.

ANT

[Damn True]

That absolutely helps. Thank you.

[Bow Tie 67]

I have a door pack of pro coming and a shop pack of damplifier, any suggestions on the best place to use the pro? I was thinking either the doors or the roof.

[Second Skin Rep]

Depends on your goals.
I would use the Damplifier Pro in the trunk, onthe quarter panels and wheel wells, then use the regular Damplifier ON the floor and firewall.
You should have enough to hit the doors too.

The roof is important to hit, but not as important as the otehr areas listed.

If you can, get a few gallons of Spectrum for the underside of the car. This way you will be sandwiching the floor between Damplifier and Spectrum

Hope that helps

ANT

[SeanH]

Ant's stuff is the best, my background is more in audio than cars and I highly recommend pretty much everything he has.