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    1. #1
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      18s or 20s, that is the question

      Now, not even getting into wheel appearance or the look of "rubber band" tires, which would perform better all around?



      (4) 20x8.5 with 245/35R20 & 255/35R20
      or
      (2) 18x8 with 245/40R18 & 18x9.5 with 275/40R18

      I need to make a decision quick, too, because free shipping from Coys is over on the 30th. haha


    2. #2
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      I'm no expert, but i am pretty sure the 18" wheels and tires will perform much better than 20s. More sidewall willl also give a better ride.
      Roger

    3. #3
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      Two rims of the same weight but different diameters means for torque to overcome the inertia of the larger one. Wider tire patch means (assuming same tires) higher better grip. Sidewall stiffness can be a good thing, but once to an extreme is a detriment by providing poor limit feedback to the driver before losing traction and possibly worsening the contact patch.

      20s for show (assuming you like that cr@p) and 18s fo go. Don't bother with 20s unless you have 16" brakes.
      Red Forman: "The Mustang's front end is problematic; get yourself a Firebird."

    4. #4
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      I'm no expert either, but the slim sidewall will give a rougher ride and you're more likely to damage a wheel on a pothole or some other road irregularity. Plus, 17 or 18 inch UHP tires perform as good or better than anything larger.
      1994 Corvette

    5. #5
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      18s. No question or doubt.
      Nick R.
      69 Camaro - 383, 700R4, 12 bolt 3.55, Hotchkis, Bilstein, Global West, Morris Classic
      08 HHR SS - Still Stock for now
      Do you still believe in all the things that you stood by before? Are you out there on the front lines, or at home keeping score?
      Do you care to be the layer of the bricks that seal your fate? Would you rather be the architect of what we might create?

    6. #6
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      Quote Originally Posted by 6'9"Witha69
      18s. No question or doubt.
      +1, no question!

    7. #7
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      how about some 19's and 18's up front

    8. #8
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      You'll get better performance (acceleration and stopping) from the 18's due to inertia affects. With 20's it'll take longer to get them spinning and longer to stop them from spinning. It's in the physics.

    9. #9
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      I'm starting to lean towards the 18s. The 20s I have in mind are cheaper, and the overall tire diameter will close up a little bit of fender gap compared to the 18s. My 12" brakes also wont look as tiny in 18s though. haha

      The one thing I have against the 18s is the tire height. In order to get the body to sit on the 18s right, I'll need to lower it and lose more ground clearance. I'm already tight at my headers and at my cut outs. Right now with my 15" wheels I have 26/28" tires front/rear and the stance could use to be lowered a little. The 245&275/40R18s will put me at 25.7/26.7". The 20s would be 26.8/27".

      Does anyone have a pic of a 2nd gen with 20/20? I know of a few running 18/20, but none all 20.

    10. #10
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      Quote Originally Posted by woody80z28
      I'm starting to lean towards the 18s. The 20s I have in mind are cheaper, and the overall tire diameter will close up a little bit of fender gap compared to the 18s. My 12" brakes also wont look as tiny in 18s though. haha

      The one thing I have against the 18s is the tire height. In order to get the body to sit on the 18s right, I'll need to lower it and lose more ground clearance. I'm already tight at my headers and at my cut outs. Right now with my 15" wheels I have 26/28" tires front/rear and the stance could use to be lowered a little. The 245&275/40R18s will put me at 25.7/26.7". The 20s would be 26.8/27".

      Does anyone have a pic of a 2nd gen with 20/20? I know of a few running 18/20, but none all 20.

      I have 275/40/18s on the back of my buick now and i want to increase the diameter as well. Since i already have 18" wheels, I'm going to go up to a 45 or 50 series tire. That is the cheaper alternative for me, over buying 20" rims and tires.
      Roger

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      the RS chevelle is running 20s and is a real player... so dont knock 20s my man..

      18s is a sure shot but 20s arent a punk tho..

    12. #12
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      There are a bunch of taller tires in 18. Look at the plus one sizes for the '05 and up Mustang tires.

    13. #13
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      Quote Originally Posted by Venomous Type
      the RS chevelle is running 20s and is a real player... so dont knock 20s my man..

      18s is a sure shot but 20s arent a punk tho..
      Pretty sure the RS chevelle is running 18's. Intro's if I remember correctly. Definately a player!

    14. #14
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      Tirerack is having a sale on Eagle F1 Supercar tires.

      Put a 255/45 on the front and a 285/40 rear and you have a 27" tall tire. Or go to a 245/45 front for 26.5". Remember for each inch you go up in overall diameter, you fill the fender gap .5" and increase ground clearance .5".

      http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....e1=yes&place=3
      Red Forman: "The Mustang's front end is problematic; get yourself a Firebird."

    15. #15
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      The 275/40R18s are the biggest I can find in my price range. I'm going to call both places today and see the difference in weight between the two.

    16. #16
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      Ok the 20s are 33lbs and the staggered 18s are 29/31.

    17. #17
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      I'd go 18s as well. I noticed a difference in acceleration and braking on my Cherokee by going from the stock 15" wheels with 225/75s to my nice-weather 18"s and 225/60s. Takes longer to stop, and acceleration is off a bit as well.
      Steve Ragusa - North Jersey
      2006 Infiniti G35x
      Former Build - 1988 Monte Carlo SS - ZZ4-cammed TPI 355, F-body serpentine conversion, World-Class 5-speed, Eibachs/Bilsteins, Howe tall LBJs, 34mm hollow front swaybar, 3/4" straight rear bar, 17" Coys C55s, 12" front discs, and more. Sold on 2/28/11.

    18. #18
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      But that more weight, no matter how marginal, is further out from the center of the hub. MOI is a bitch when you f&*^ with her. I know you want to "fill in" the wheel well but don't get too caught up in form over function.
      Nick R.
      69 Camaro - 383, 700R4, 12 bolt 3.55, Hotchkis, Bilstein, Global West, Morris Classic
      08 HHR SS - Still Stock for now
      Do you still believe in all the things that you stood by before? Are you out there on the front lines, or at home keeping score?
      Do you care to be the layer of the bricks that seal your fate? Would you rather be the architect of what we might create?

    19. #19
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      18's. 20's will look out of proportion on the car IMO. And like said, the brakes and accel. will work in your favor vs. 20's

    20. #20
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      nope.. 19s and 20s my friend.. got the mag issue in front of me.. you dont remember correctly. LOL

      indeed a player..

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