Project: Chevette Turbocharged Ecotec... [Archive]

dafabricata

10-12-2007, 10:28 AM

WHY??

I'm sure every single person viewing this is asking themselves this question.....

Why not?....
It looks very non-threatening, blends in well, is somewhat lightweight, and almost 30 years old!

PROJECT: ECOVETTE.......
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After the wheels were sand blasted and painted and whole car was buffed and waxed.

I bought this car a few weeks ago and actually went to pick it up a week ago(last Thursday), and after a LOT of sleepless nights I got it down to the bare bones. The stock 60-70 HP just would not do.
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Whats worse is how many of my friends asked if I was going to rebuild the engine and use it!!!...... WTF!!.....
Anyway I decided that the Turbocharged 2.0L Ecotec Engine/Trans/Wiring from a NEW 5-10mile 2008 Pontaic Solstice GXP would better suit my needs.
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I removed all the interior, and discovered some small rust holes in the drivers side floor board and passenger side where the Cat was mounted.
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The firewall has to come out anyway so the floor was removed completely to make way for the new chassis. I ordered one of the Jegster Complete Chassis/12pt. Cage Kits to stiffen things up a bit...after all it is a Chevette. After cutting out the rear inner wheelwells it it very apparent why the rear needs to be narrowed and tubbed. I recieved the tub kit earlier this week and am waiting for the Jegs Chassis/Cage kit to arrive....hopefully by the end of next week. I will be picking up the GXP Engine early next week.
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I'll update as things come together......

Piet

10-12-2007, 11:14 AM

Oh... I am totally watching your progress on this.
Very cool. Way to think outside the box.

PhillipM

10-12-2007, 11:28 AM

Very cool

Smock67

10-12-2007, 11:32 AM

Sweet, thats going to be the ultimate sleeper, well besides the rear tires since your tubbing it.

va72mlibu

10-12-2007, 11:45 AM

You've been busy! Really looking forward to the end result.

TonyL

10-12-2007, 12:47 PM

Very cool. I'll be watching this one closely as well.

dafabricata

10-12-2007, 02:02 PM

I hated the way the bumpers stick out, so I started with the rear and took 2.5" out of each side. So far I like it, but needs to be finished. I will be doing a little roll pan under the bumper. Don't know where I am going to put the exhaust so I won't be cutting any holes in it yet. Some suttle body mods are in the works, nothing very noticable
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Piet

10-12-2007, 02:22 PM

Cool

Chad-1stGen

10-12-2007, 02:28 PM

Sweet. Keep the pics coming.

Restomod

10-12-2007, 04:04 PM

Cool! You gonna keep the mud flaps right?!?!

twosaturns

10-12-2007, 06:51 PM

ooooooo, this is going to be SICK!!!!! and not only an ECOTEC, but you found the TURBO one!!!! VERY COOL!

hechtrod

10-12-2007, 07:03 PM

Very cool. I'm a big fan of turbo 4's. Especially rear wheel drive, they almost don't exist, at least not in the us.

70camaro406

10-12-2007, 07:42 PM

Very cool. That's gonna be a helluva sleeper.

dafabricata

10-12-2007, 08:02 PM

The engine is a Turbocharged 2.0L rated at 260 Horsepower & 260 ft-lbs. of torque. It has a 5 speed automatic. I wanted a manual but with such little foot-room and the very limited availablity of this engine, I decided the auto would be fine. From what I've read, it is the 2nd generation Ecotec and the first engine by a US automaker to use Direct Injection. In the Solstice it get 21 MPG city and 27 MPG highway. I don't think a reliable 300 HP is out of the question.

The interior will be black. I bought the black leather GXP seats for it as well. No more ugly ass red and faded pink!
The suspension and brakes are still to be decided and will be a bit tricky with such a short width to work with. Any ideas on suspension would be great. The entire front end of the car will be removed along with the firewall. The stock suspension is a joke.

Anyone have a narrowed rear end to sell cheap?

The car will also be a 2 seater when completed.
A friend of mine has a frame jig and said I can weld up the chassis on it! Now, if only the delivery truck would get here to drop off the chassis and cage components.....

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Pro-Touring Cougar

10-12-2007, 09:40 PM

this is going to be cool keep the pics comeing

LMDGUY

10-13-2007, 07:43 AM

nice... this is goin to be a way coool project!

Tony_SS

10-13-2007, 07:54 AM

This has to be one of the coolest projects I've seen in awhile.. keep up the progress and pics-I love it!

showme

10-13-2007, 07:57 AM

Very cool project!Totally unique in every way!What a blast that will be!:cool:

mac71ss

10-13-2007, 09:00 AM

Would this car be considered a ricer!? Whatever, that is a going to a awsome little car!

Mark Smith

10-13-2007, 09:51 AM

very cool project.definitely keep posting progress

Steve Firebird

10-13-2007, 12:20 PM

Looks like a great project. My brother restored a 1979 Pinto and was talking about a turbo engine out of a SVO mustang or maybe a 302 for it down the road. Could you use some of the suspention off the Solstice that you got the engine and seats out of?

dafabricata

10-13-2007, 01:03 PM

Could you use some of the suspention off the Solstice that you got the engine and seats out of?

I pretty damn sure the width would be way to wide. The Chevette is very narrow. It would be nice though. I'd like to run a 16"-17" up front and 17"-18" rear, and definetly at least a 7" wide front and 10.5 rear.

twosaturns

10-13-2007, 02:18 PM

just an idea- the vdub guys in england are into smaller wheels, and it works real well on a small hatch. a gti look sgreat slammed on 14s, even 1st gen rabbits look great w/ the stock 13s. think 8 spoke empi wheels, like on an old school mini. the chevette is so small, I wonder if a 17" will look too cartoonish. I would love to see 15" rallys on there, w/ real low profile rubber, slammed of course.
but, like I said, just an idea :)

dafabricata

10-13-2007, 03:30 PM

Yeah...18's & 19's may be a bit too big. I really don't like 13's or 14's just a bit too small.....

Got the door panels and rear panels cut out. I need to make pods for door speakers and some more detail to break up the flat panel.
The dash was also painted "Satin Black" krylon plastic fusion paint along with all interior plastics. I need to rewrap the top part of the dash or buy a new top dash. I also test fit the Solstice GXP seats and there is limited room for the trans tunnel. At least more of the interior work is out of the way. I'll make it work.....

Kenova

10-13-2007, 06:22 PM

First off, thats a damn cool project you have there. My bone stock '77 Vega looks more threatening that that little Chevette.
As for the new drive train, you have no idea how close you came to having some serious competition on the bidding. I saw that engine and trans and thought it would be perfect for my Vega, but soon realized I'd never be happy until I've stuffed an eight in one.
Have you decided on a rear end yet? I'm thinking a Mopar 8 3/4 with an aluminum center would be plenty strong enough and light to boot (although a little pricey).

Ken

Frank Grimes

10-13-2007, 09:50 PM

best project car on here for sure!

dafabricata

10-13-2007, 11:50 PM

best project car on here for sure!

Thanks for the compliment, but my pockets are not very deep and it's just me on this.....I got lucky on some major components and it will really be a bit difficult to get the suspension and brakes worked out. I will find a way though....

I plan to move the engine/trans back slightly to distribute the weight a bit better....gotta do wheelies in the ECOVETTE!!!
The firewall will be moved back and the entire floor has been removed....(up to the rear seating area). I am trying to get every possible detail sewn up before all the chassis details get it the way....(which they will). My budget has almost been exhausted and I need to make EVERY attempt to conserve on the remaining components.
Heres some pics of the start of the dash and a few others....

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SatisTraction

10-14-2007, 03:17 AM

if the budget is tight i would not be so fast to ditch the front suspension. the right springs and shocks make a lot of difference!!! on the rear i would look into a ford 8.8 rear. many come with a factory clutch type locker and they are cheap!! rear disk are easy to come by and they can take any abuse you throw at them. I had one in a 8 second mustang. all i did was add a spool, 31 spline axles, and a preload cover!! if you get one out of a lincoln LSC they already have big disk!!!

Tony_SS

10-14-2007, 04:28 AM

You're making great progress on this thing..Keep up the good work!

ponjohn

10-14-2007, 04:41 AM

Some more info on the vette in the background...please.

SatisTraction

10-14-2007, 05:56 AM

how about a Civette? this is one cool car!!

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dafabricata

10-14-2007, 07:41 AM

Some more info on the vette in the background...please.

Thats one of my 78 year old nieghbors cars. He is selling it to a friend of his. A guy brought it to his house over 20 years ago, and wanted some work done. Well, the guy was never to be heard from again for about 10 years.....then one day stopped by and appologized for never following through and gave my nieghbor the title for the inconveniance. My neighbor is one of the coolest most knowledgable men I've ever met. He has raced almost every class of car out there....He raced for 35 years! He built his own Indy car WAY back in the day and says he still has it in one of his MANY barns or garages. He also claims to have the first car that (I forgot who) built.....(some famous drag racer from before my time)....I'll try and get a name, I recognized it but forgot who) It would really be interesting to see how many cars he actually has.....hell, he owns over 30 houses!

TonyL

10-14-2007, 07:46 AM

Wow. When you start a project, you dont mess around do you? Nice seats. Whered you get them and how much were they? If you don't mind me asking.

dafabricata

10-14-2007, 08:08 AM

Wow. When you start a project, you dont mess around do you? Nice seats. Whered you get them and how much were they? If you don't mind me asking.

I really want to get as many little things done as possible....my garage is not heated and its really starting to get a bit chilly here in Michigan.

I bought the seats off Ebay on auction for $250 for the set! They were out of a NEW car. Apparently the seals on some of these Solstices and Skys were bad and the interiors were flooding when it rained.....so the cars were scraped.
Send me a PM and I'll give you a # to the local salvage yard that deals with ONLY late model GM cars & trucks. I know they have more.....they'd look sweet in the Corvair!
The seat demensions are: 39" tall---20" wide----25" front to back.

chet

10-15-2007, 06:25 PM

project is looking cool! How about the front suspension off a Miata? they make great track cars and should be close in width?

dafabricata

10-15-2007, 06:27 PM

Thats a good idea! I'll have to get some measurements and figure it out...

I did a few more things yesterday....sanded and painted the hood grills and used some old rusty perforated steel scrap from an old water heater for some grill detail......

I also sanded and painted one of the taillight bezels. The chrome was pitted, peeling and rusted. They will be silver.
Also made the Ebay purchase of a few GXP emblems.....don't know if it will stay.

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Z06killinSBF

10-16-2007, 12:45 AM

This thing is totally cool. Keep it up.

curly

10-16-2007, 04:06 AM

Who would have ever thought to see a Chevette on here? You have got a cool project going... please keep the pics coming!

terryr

10-16-2007, 06:58 AM

Didin't the Fiero use basic chevette front suspension? And the Lambo kit car builders have parts to put big brakes and coilovers on them.

SPECWARSQUID

10-16-2007, 08:11 AM

Didin't the Fiero use basic chevette front suspension? And the Lambo kit car builders have parts to put big brakes and coilovers on them.

Here from Wikipedia on the Fiero:

Suspension design
The front end of the car is a wider direct derivative of the Chevrolet Chevette (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Chevette).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiero

Awesome project.

Shay
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Semper Fortis

dafabricata

10-16-2007, 03:29 PM

Just got back from picking up the Ecotec Engine/Trans/Wiring and OOOOHHHHH SH!!!!!!!!TTTTT
I'll post pics tonight...

Nate K

10-16-2007, 04:49 PM

This thing is awsome! A friend of my had a chevette that he was autoxing. The car was guttless but handled pretty well. He had moog cargo coils and rancho shocks off something on it. He ran 15" wheels and they looked big 17" will look huge.

Code Red

10-16-2007, 05:45 PM

wow nice little project

dafabricata

10-16-2007, 07:09 PM

Heres the Engine/Trans.......

The delivery guy needs to get here so the chassis can get underway....

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dafabricata

10-16-2007, 07:13 PM

I was told it was an automatic........

DAMN!!! I ALMOST ***** WHEN I GOT THERE AND FOUND OUT OTHERWISE!!!......

Oh yeah.....its only got 12 miles on it!

MonzaRacer

10-16-2007, 07:15 PM

As for the rearend lookaround for a Mustang II as they had 8 in fords and you cna make them super tough for cheap.
Figure a set of the Moser Street replacement axles, it will have bolt in axles, and for a poor mans posi order up an extra pair of side gear shims.
This litterally locks the spiders together but they will still slip some, but off the line the $1.98 posi is an old hot rodder trick.
If you have over drive figure you can use high 3s or low 4s for gears and the rear needs no actual bracing.
A friend had a 71 Vega with a 400 hp 355 and it lived through 2 yrs of racing (on stock axles) and several years of street driving by the guy who bought it.
LAst I heard it was still running the mini spool and 4.66 gears, on the street.
Also it depends on the width of the rear quarters.
As for rear suspension i would look at the triangulated 4 link from Air Ride.
Honestly some suspension that has available parts like a narrowed Nova/Camaro subframe or looking for one of the Mustang II frontends as you can get coilovers or Shockwaves for them and some sweet parts too.
As its so small it wont take much to make it stick like glue.
anotherthought would be look for a 8.8 IRS from a 89-up T-bird/Cougar.
Pull it in to the extreme and tada it has an awesom upper adjustment in the upper arms for camber too.
I installed one in a Ranger for a guy and it handles like,,,well like a Vette on steroids. Seriously the IRS was super easy to mod and it is seriously strong in light vehicles.
Oh and the rear cover tells you the ring gear size.

Good Luck

MonzaRacer

10-16-2007, 07:16 PM

Woohoo a stick way to luck out man!!!!!!!

curly

10-17-2007, 03:41 AM

Love the GXP sticker :rotfl: ! It should be loads of fun to drive with the stick in it!

strangler

10-17-2007, 05:34 AM

What part fo Michigan are you from? I love the project, good luck and keep posting pictures!!

dafabricata

10-17-2007, 07:45 AM

What part fo Michigan are you from? I love the project, good luck and keep posting pictures!!

I'm just outside of Ann Arbor.

It turns out the hardest part of all this may end up being the wiring...I still need everything from the fire wall to the taillights to get this to run.
I've contacted a few places regarding custom wiring for the engine to run on its own and pretty much got laughed at!!.....no really!...... actually made me a little frustraited!
So I contacted the place I bought it from and was told they only sell the front and rear clips as whole pieces with everything still in it...They Chop the car in HALF!

INCLUDING THE WIRING!!!!!!

Well a front half goes for $3000 and the rear for $5000. I asked if they could make a note for them to ask the purchaser if it would be ok to have me call them or them call me to discuss me obtaining the wiring needed to make this run! I'll splice that **** back together if it takes me a month!!!!

SO....I ASK A FAVOR OF ANYONE READING THIS!!!

IF ANYBODY KNOWS OF GOOD SALVAGE YARDS THAT MIGHT HAVE A 08 PONTIAC SOLSTICE GXP PLEASE GET THE # AND PM ME WITH THE INFO SO I CAN GET THIS THING RUNNING!!!!

I dont care if you are a collision person and know of a wrecked GXP that I might be able to get the wiring harness from....PLEASE!! HOOK A BROTHA UP!!!

GBodyGMachine

10-17-2007, 07:59 AM

This project is pretty cool.

Jeff

Scott Parkhurst

10-17-2007, 08:33 AM

The body looks pretty good, but you can get some 'glass parts from this place: http://www.rodnrace.com/chevette.htm

Cool project! I dreamt of doing one with a BGN V-6, but you're nailing it with this Ecotec turbo setup!

~SP~

brn agn

10-17-2007, 08:40 AM

Great idea! I wish I had your motivation. Are you building this car at the same time you are working full time?

Keep up the good work and the updates.

PhillipM

10-17-2007, 11:49 AM

Accel DFI Gen 7 will run it. Then just use a painless harness to run the rest of the car.

PhillipM

10-17-2007, 11:49 AM

On Second thought, I think that motor has direct injection... Hmm. That may be the problem.

MarcelloRupelli

10-17-2007, 12:35 PM

If you wanted to go that route, an Electromotive system should run it. My brother is going to use one on a Trailblazer inline 6 for his Ludicrous Louis '54 Chevy. He had Electromotive check the coil packs and apparently, they're compatible. You just need to come up with a crank trigger.

It'd certainly be more expensive, but reworking factory harnesses can be a nightmare.

Good luck with the project! I'll be watching this as I'd considered the same swap on a 1st-gen Nova.

Restomod

10-17-2007, 04:37 PM

What is connected in the rear half of the car that will keep it from running? How much does Pontiac want for a harness??

GT500KR_Vert

10-17-2007, 04:48 PM

You can pickup a 64-68 mustang 8" rear-end for nothing and can make them pretty tough. I gave two away.

dafabricata

10-17-2007, 04:58 PM

What is connected in the rear half of the car that will keep it from running? How much does Pontiac want for a harness??

I'll be looking more into this....
Gonna get it handled one way or the other, just would be nice to know everything will run the way it's supposed to.

Yes, it is direct injection.

I'll be looking into the ford 8.8... quite a few have suggested it.

barno68

10-17-2007, 07:39 PM

I am not sure what you would need past the firewall other than the data port. Judging by the pictures the harness looks pretty complete to include the ECU. Pickup a electrical diagram if available and have at it. I don't think reworking the factory harness is that difficult, it is just time consuming. But you will need some diagrams.

Brent

dafabricata

10-17-2007, 07:58 PM

Put down somecheap easy flooring to make thing a LOT brighter and easier to clean up!! The concrete was gettin really greasy!
Got the new headlights today.....I think they are a big improvement over the old crap! And its one of those easy reversable mods.....

I have a Sparco Race fuel cap..(looks like one of those motorcycle one but smaller and classier. It's been sittin in the parts drawer for years, I held it up to the center rear where the license plate mounts. I think I may have to fill that panel, mount the gas-cap there and mount the plate on the rear bumper...I'll mock it up in the next couple days and post pics to see what you think. I want it to look like a sleeper but its really hard to leave it looking so ugly....not that it can get much better looking anyway....

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Tony_SS

10-18-2007, 04:01 AM

IMO I wouldn't go sleeper route.. I'd make it look tough, people will assume you just pimped out a chevette anyway, they'll never guess whats under the hood reguardless of how it looks.

curly

10-18-2007, 04:02 AM

I showed this to my brother-in-law last night and the first thing he asked is 'why a chevette'? I explained the whole 'sleeper' concept to him and then he understood :hammer: .

I can't imagine the look on the first person's face that jumps on the the eco-vette :cool: . Make sure you take a camera with you on it's maiden voyage to capture that look!!

Piet

10-18-2007, 08:57 AM

The nice thing about a sleeper...

You can park it anywhere, and not worry about someone stealing it.
You glide past cops with a quota to fill.
You don't get the "If I had that car I would do...blah blah blah... to it" comments
You don't have every kid in a Honda rev'ing his engine at you

AND you enjoy driving it.

Scott Parkhurst

10-18-2007, 10:15 AM

You don't have every kid in a Honda rev'ing his engine at you
Oh...I think I'd be revving on every kid in a Honda I saw if I were driving this thing...LOL!!

~SP~

68Formula

10-18-2007, 10:20 AM

'why a chevette'?

Sleeper aside....

They are cheap to buy.
They are cheap to insure.
They are light.
Thanks to sharing some parts with Fieros is probably possible to do some suspension upgrades.
17s look big on them.
They are a rare today.
Every guy in their late 30s probably owned one in highschool and wishes they had built it up back then.

dafabricata

10-19-2007, 12:47 AM

I got the rear bumper mounting brackets done.... I also got the mounting brackets done for my exhaust tips!

SO...what do ya think about the Sparco fuel filler?

I also recieved the Carbon Fiber I ordered off of Ebay....48" wide X 15' feet!
I'll be doing the upper dash...hood...rear panel between the tail lights and other misc.
Hers some pics of the rear with the Sparco fuel filler and exhaust tips...

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Tony_SS

10-19-2007, 04:16 AM

Friggin Sweet!

Steve1968LS2

10-19-2007, 07:16 AM

I got the rear bumper mounting brackets done.... I also got the mounting brackets done for my exhaust tips!

SO...what do ya think about the Sparco fuel filler?

I also recieved the Carbon Fiber I ordered off of Ebay....48" wide X 15' feet!
I'll be doing the upper dash...hood...rear panel between the tail lights and other misc.
Hers some pics of the rear with the Sparco fuel filler and exhaust tips...

You know, you really have a cool project here. And you take really good build photos. Could you email me at [email protected]

I would like to run this in our "under construction" section... It's good to show people doing something DIFFERENT (and cool).

I'm digging the GXP emblems... that ought to get people thinking

wiedemab

10-19-2007, 07:19 AM

Better photoshop out that Car Craft sticker in the back window ;) HeHeHe.

I'm really diggin this project!

Steve1968LS2

10-19-2007, 07:21 AM

Better photoshop out that Car Craft sticker in the back window ;) HeHeHe.

I'm really diggin this project!

You know we would.. lol

Piet

10-19-2007, 07:55 AM

I like the filler cap! Hidden behind the licence plate... but when you fill it up, you get a hint that this is not your stock Chevette.

PhillipM

10-19-2007, 11:20 AM

I like the filler cap! Hidden behind the licence plate... but when you fill it up, you get a hint that this is not your stock Chevette.

But why do it if it is always going to be covered up by the plate?

twosaturns

10-19-2007, 11:34 AM

love the filler cap, can't wait for the carbon fiber. cool!
I wouldn't run dual pipes, though... a small car , esp w/ a 4 banger, looks killer w/ a single pipe coming off at an angle, not a fart can muffler, but a single 3" pipe, subaru WRX style.

just an idea, but I'M LOVIN' THIS THING!

dafabricata

10-19-2007, 09:18 PM

I got the rear bumper brackets tack welded and the rear bumper lines up nicely! I also got the rear bumper plastic cut and fit. Now its time for the front bumper to get 2" taken out of either side and recessed back a few inches to sit more flush with the front.
What I meant about the Sparco fuel filler is that I want to weld in a filler panel that will cover the area where the lisence plate and lisence plate lights go. The lisence plate will then be moved to the bumper. I also would like to do a small roll pan under the rear bumper in carbon fiber along with some side panels that will extend the rear bottom quarter panels and make them even with the rear roll pan. I will also be making a new front lower valance (in carbon fiber) under the front bumper and will help bring the front a bit lower and add provisions for fog lights and allow for more room for the Sparco Intercooler. To complete the front and rear carbon fiber sections a couple side skirts will be made to finish it off and bring the sides of the car a bit lower.

Heres some pics of the before and after of the bumpers and a pic of the rear bumper FINALLY mounted.

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Code Red

10-19-2007, 10:11 PM

looks much better with the bumpers tucked in

how about for wheels you do 17 inch steelies and make them look like cop steelies?

TonyL

10-19-2007, 10:16 PM

This has to be the best updated and quickest build thread on pro-touring.com ever. Im astonished at the progress really. Good job!
It looks so cool with the bumpers tucked in like that. Awesome!

dafabricata

10-20-2007, 04:45 PM

looks much better with the bumpers tucked in

how about for wheels you do 17 inch steelies and make them look like cop steelies?

I really like the idea of a larger steel wheel that looks similar to stock. Almost everyone that has seen the car says to keep the stock wheels. I'd paint 'em black with the brushed/chrome covers.......

I chopped 4" total out of the front bumper today and have been milling the front bumper brackets. I think it looks a ton better with the bumpers narrowed and tucked in. I also like how the turn signal lights in the bumper now line up with the headlight buckets. I'm thinkin about cotting the bumper out to match the grill openings on the hood....if you look closely you can see where I marked it out in blue marker, except they will come in closer together like the hood grill does.....maybe have an 1.5" gap between the openings. I planned on doing some carbon fiber today, but got too motivated for the front bumper. Its supposed to be nice out tomarrow so maybe I'll get the dash top done.

Steve1968LS2 check you inbox.....you have a PM.

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Smock67

10-20-2007, 05:18 PM

the progress on this is awesome. i just think its awesome that your taking a car thats greatly over looked and making it something thats will be simply amazing when its done.

MonzaRacer

10-20-2007, 05:59 PM

My question why what little wiring that goes to the back would you actually need?
Other than a fuel pump wire,, unless it uses a pulsewidth modulated fuel system to regulate fuel pressure.
I cna possibly locate some wiring diagrams from local dealer MAYBE, but I would need a vin possibly.
Then I can actually decipher what all you may need. The big problem is being able to hack the ECM as it may be a lot harder to do thant you may want, now a very sweet way to rengineer it and its set up to control boost and such is Megasquirt. DIYauto has a ready done computer and I think it would actually work with what you have but I would have to read the wiring diagrams first.
PM me if you want me to do some digging on the lectronics and wiring.
Lee Abel
AFTERMARKET PERFORMANCE

West Texas Z

10-20-2007, 10:00 PM

dafabricata

10-20-2007, 10:48 PM

dafabricata

10-20-2007, 10:52 PM

I think this is an awesome build, but I'm not a fan of the white grills in the front. IMO, I would put a front mount intercooler behind the black pieces. Just my .02.

Would look killer too. KEEP UP THE GOOD JOB!

Thanks! The grills are painted silver....... The front mount intercooler will be mounted below the bumper.
I'll be making the lower valance outta carbon fiber and will be mounting the intercooler in its location ....

[email protected]

10-21-2007, 10:19 AM

very very cool. i've always wanted to do this motor swap in a vega. very kick ass.

TnBlkC230WZ

10-21-2007, 06:42 PM

There is a place that speciallizes on converting LS wiring harnesses for muscle car installation. Perhaps they can convert yours. I'm trying to find it, but I can't.

va72mlibu

10-21-2007, 06:53 PM

This has to be the best updated and quickest build thread on pro-touring.com ever. Im astonished at the progress really. Good job!
It looks so cool with the bumpers tucked in like that. Awesome!
My theory is that the car was done 3 months ago and DF is just releasing the pics a few at a time. :poke:

Really is amazing how much you get done in such a short time

Badmonkeyinc

10-22-2007, 12:07 PM

Lookin good bro - thanks for the link to the build.

Ok...may be considerd un-holy and more gasser than pro touring...but for a cheep front end you can get the staight axle out of any 2wd Jeep XJ (Cherokee) Section and sleve the tube to the width needed and fab up the new suspension arms. If the motor is tucked back in the fire wall far enough the axle tube could clear the oil pan, or you could use the stock knuckles and make a drop center section...out there I know...

For the rear end, you could look for a Zuki Samuri rear end. They are very narrow and el'cheepo! it's like a shunken 9" so welding up any sort of linked rear suspension to the housing is easy...The offroad after market supports it with lockers and all the gear ratios you could want.

It could get you on the road untill you can build a narrowed 9" or crib an IRS out of a late model SUV...

I gotta get by your shop and check it out in person!

dafabricata

10-22-2007, 07:47 PM

Spent yesterday setting up the rear valance for fiberglass and then it will be overlaid in carbon fiber. Its still all fiber glass..I will post pics when completed..(probably be a while)

I also hated the way the car was sittin up so high....looked like a gasser, which is fine, but I like low. I just removed the springs completely and the lower A-arms are resting on the bumpstops.

For a little more than 2 weeks worth of work, I'm pretty happy with the progress. The car looks much better in my opinion, especially with the front bumper narrowed and recessed and TUCKIN' 13"s!!!!:twothumbs

I'm going to pick up my Spearco intercooler/polished pipes tomarrow. It will be interesting to see if it will even fit behind the bumper and between the bumper brackets. My friend went to pick it up last week and their ebay sales rep. was sick and for some reason it couldn't be released......even though he had my reciept showing it was paid in full and just needed to be picked up from their other location from which I got the engine/trans.
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dafabricata

10-23-2007, 07:23 PM

Well I had to cut up the front bumper a bit more than I planned...I made the openings even with the hood grills and transition from the lower valance. I had to do this to allow a direct flow of air to the intercooler. I think I will be extending the middle bumper section down to the lower valance and will be adding a curved piece that will be welded to the bumper and will cover the endtanks and will transition into the intercooler...(Hard to explain, I post pics when further along.
I really wish I coulda kept the bumper the way it was....it looked so nice!
I had to do absolutely nothing to the bumper brackets in order for the intercooler to fit. I have about 1/8"-1/4" On either side of the endtanks between the bumper brackets stand-out tubes. I used 7/16" solid round stock for the intercooler mounts, drilled and taped one end and welded them to the bumper brackets. Fits great but I need more stainless intercooler piping....this intercooler was off a Cobalt SS and the tubes are definetly not meant for this car or engine.

I also called Jegs today to see where the hell the Chassis/12pt. Cage was that I ordered 2 weeks ago. WELL....."All we have on the computer is the tub kit you ordered".......WHAT!!!! The guy even read everything back to me gave me a total, took my card # and said it should be there by the end of the wek or at the latest the end of next week if something is not in stock.....
SO, I had to REORDER the $h!t. The chassis rails should be here this week and they have to band up the cage and then ship it out. I was pretty upset to here this! I guess I'll have to look on the bright side and keep working on the body and other stuff that needs to be done before I get too sidetracked on the chassis and cage.

Heres some pics of the intercooler and clearance shots......

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Code Red

10-23-2007, 08:47 PM

wow its strange seeing a intercooler on a chevette

dusterbd13

10-24-2007, 03:36 AM

wow. just wow.
that is an awesome chevette. and i give my buddy crap for building an AMC spirit. after this, ill have to tell him to take it up a step. gotta keep up with DF!
Michael

Fuelie Fan

10-24-2007, 03:45 PM

TonyL

10-24-2007, 03:47 PM

not to mention the fuel pump cutoff that detects roll overs and crashes.

matthimself456

10-24-2007, 05:26 PM

Man seems like everyone had just figured out EFI and GM throws us direct injection. Im confident you'll make it work, though. Lots of resource here.

Freakin cool build by the way. The "Bad Seed" that Hot Rod magazine did a while back gave me all kinds of crazy ideas.

dafabricata

10-26-2007, 07:46 PM

I've been doing a lot of cleanup on the car lately. That Zeibart rust coating is a major pain in the ass to remove! and messy as hell! I want it clean though. Might I add the stuff works great!!! I cant believe just how little rust this car has!
I bought some 1x1 square stock today to do the fender support braces and the core support brace. I think that will be my weekend project....along with more cleaning.
The rear valance is coming along and should be ready for carbon fiber by next week(been lazy about that one)
I recieved a bunch of gussets and brackets in the mail today.
Heres a few pictures of the headlight buckets done in carbon fiber.....I still gotta do another coat of epoxy.

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dafabricata

10-31-2007, 08:35 PM

This came today....:twothumbs

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Code Red

10-31-2007, 09:29 PM

looks like fun times

dusterbd13

11-01-2007, 03:05 AM

and the project suddenly turns much more radical. good luck, sir.
Michael

va72mlibu

11-01-2007, 05:12 AM

I admit I was skeptical at first, but this thing is gonna be AWESOME!!!:bananna2:

trapin

11-01-2007, 08:14 AM

dfabricata...a very interesting project indeed. I'm about an hour from Ann Arbor, I'd love to come out and see this thing as you get closer. From the posts I've read it seems you're in a bit of a situation in regards to transplanting the Ecotech drivetrain. If you want I can put you in touch with a guy here at GM that is involved with GM's performance engines, he might be able to help you with that and I know he'd be quite intrigued by your project.

I think what's most interesting about this project is that we're getting to see "what might have been" had GM played their cards correctly in the 1980's. The Ecotech drivetrain, suspension upgrades, and refinements to the car's fit and finish are all indicative of how we build cars today.

dafabricata

11-01-2007, 08:50 AM

brrymnvette

11-01-2007, 09:47 AM

Call Speartech no the wiring harness. They can make it exactly what you need and none of the other crap you don't.

JohnLClark

11-03-2007, 01:06 AM

I have to say that this a nice project. It has given me some ideas about swapping a ecotec into a corvair. I will be watching this to see how it turns out. I have read that lightly modified turbo ecos can make 300hp easy. With the light weight of that Chevette and engine combo, that should be a real quick ride.

Nate K

11-03-2007, 05:45 AM

If it's anything like earlier ecotecs, what you'll need is the body control module and ignition switch, as well as the associated wiring. It's an anti-theft thing, and unfortunately it's over a comm bus instead of being a simple analog or digital input.

You are right the passlock sensor will cause the car not to start. The ecm will also look for all the other modules that are in the car like the SDM or EBCM even the IPC. Somehow that part of the ECM will need to be disabled.

West Texas Z

11-03-2007, 04:28 PM

Man, those CF light covers look sick. Anymore pics of that? What else to plan to plan to wrap in CF?

dafabricata

11-03-2007, 04:51 PM

Thanks! Those are about the best pics of the headlight buckets I have right now. I plan to probably do carbon fiber on the rear view mirror, tail panel between the taillights, a few interior pieces, and the maybe the lower front valance.....I changed my mind on the hood for now. I don't want to go overboard and have it look too outta place.
I tried to get my torpedo heater working in the garage but it won't stay lit!!!....it's been pretty cold and its only gonna get worse. Luckily my basement is pretty big and will allow some projects to be carried out inside. I have a lot more planning to do before I start the chassis and cage....and a lot more parts to buy!....damn...
As for the wiring situation.....I guess I just gotta try and find a totaled 08 Solstice GXP, buy the wiring harness and ALL other components or buy it from the dealership.
AGAIN, ANYONE HEAR OF AN '08 SOLSTICE GXP in a Salvage Yard or being parted out.....PLEASE LET ME KNOW!!!

brn agn

11-03-2007, 05:19 PM

Have you checked this place out yet?

http://www.solsticeforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10623&highlight=parted

They may not have what you need, but it sounds like you can put your name on a waiting list.

ROACHZ28

11-03-2007, 05:21 PM

I owned a 79 4 door Chevette back in 84/85. There was even a Chevette Club where I grew up in Flint(MI). Those guys had their cars all pimped out with wire wheels,white wall tires,tinted windows and killer stereo systems. I saw a silver 2 door with a supercharged v6 at the Woodward Dream Cruise this summer. I noticed your floor boards were rusted out. Chevettes were famous for that. I had a big hole in mine also. I hated driving that car in the rain.Well good luck to you sir. Looking forward to seeing you cruising the Detroit area next summer.:cool:

OHCbird

11-04-2007, 12:00 AM

The other issues you'll run into:
1. DBW- drive by wire. All gen 2 Ecotecs are DBW now. It can be programmed out if you switch or modify the TB.

2. The CAN protocol , and the way it requires interaction with the BCM (stuff like gas cap venting, speed sensors, etc). Speartech and a few others can defeat some of this for you. In the interest of time and effort, I'd stick with the factory ECM- the DI engines run slightly different fuel/spark corrections. I have yet to see an aftemarket controller on an Eco DI (on the street, at least).

3. If you can, the IRS out of a Solstice could be made to work; you can upgrade the center 'chunk' by using a CTS-V or GTO diff.

On a good note, I know of a GXP that is making 445rwhp already; he's finishing up a kit for release. You'll have no problems getting 300hp out of that- easy day!

zman1969

11-06-2007, 12:54 PM

P/T Chevette - almost sounds like a oxymoron :poke: really. but i have to say i like your ideas, motivation and being different, looks like your on your way with a neet deal and a super sleeper! , back in the day there were a few V-8 vegas running around and it was easy to tell the rest you ignored . i like what i see + keep going!! :1st:

deuce_454

11-06-2007, 02:48 PM

hmm, i wouldnt mess about with an OEM harness, id take the plunge and install an aftermarket ECM.. there are some that are DBW compatible, but if one were to switch to a cable TB it really isnt a biggie installing an aftermarket EFI, bigstuff3, tec3, autronic, mefi and so on are all good bets.. and if you plan on upping the boost and output id call them a nessecity rather than an option...

i have only worked with an electromotibe tec3 myself (its what i have on the 32 roadster) but it is my impression that for a turbo 4 application, the autronic is hard to beat.. cheaper options include VEMS, and megasquirt... the first being the obvious choice in my view..

68Formula

11-07-2007, 12:46 AM

hmm, i wouldnt mess about with an OEM harness, id take the plunge and install an aftermarket ECM.. there are some that are DBW compatible, but if one were to switch to a cable TB it really isnt a biggie installing an aftermarket EFI, bigstuff3, tec3, autronic, mefi and so on are all good bets.. and if you plan on upping the boost and output id call them a nessecity rather than an option...

It is a biggie actually. This is a Direct Injection engine. The injectors require a PCM special drivers to open against the 2200psi fuel pressure and there is a feedback control strategy for the high pressure pump. These are just a couple items, there is probably a lot more to it.

Nate K

11-07-2007, 06:20 PM

It is a biggie actually. This is a Direct Injection engine. The injectors require a PCM special drivers to open against the 2200psi fuel pressure and there is a feedback control strategy for the high pressure pump. These are just a couple items, there is probably a lot more to it.

The ecotec also has variable valvetrain I dont know if any of the aftermarket systems have the ability to work the cams. Spectre has a saturn sky that I think has their aftermarket controler in it I would contact them.

http://www.spectreperformance.com/#HOME

OHCbird

11-07-2007, 11:49 PM

The cam phasers are controlled uing metered oil pressure via a PWM signal. I'm using the DFI's PWM output to play with the exhaust cam phasing.

With the advent of the tuning software that is available now, I'd say stick with the factory ECM & harness. It's lot easier to eliminate systems than it is to adapt or build them!

nastynavy

11-11-2007, 09:45 PM

I love the idea. Complete sleeper! I think the motor choice is fitting as well considering the Chevette was the small car back then. The best part is it is an older one with the better looking front end as well.

gmchevolds

11-14-2007, 06:45 AM

Yes! Yes! Yes!

Chewy72ss

11-14-2007, 05:05 PM

MORE PICS!!!!!

Great concept. I have a buddy who is buildin' a Chevette w/ a 4.3. (Tryin' to convince him to steal the motor setup from a Syclone/Typhoon.)

But, SICK ride man...keep it up, and like I said earlier....MORE PICS!!

Code Red

11-14-2007, 05:26 PM

updates????

The01Cav

11-21-2007, 09:34 PM

I really want to see some progress on this. Seems like you have left us hanging!

dafabricata

11-22-2007, 06:45 PM

I've been super busy trying to get caught up with a ton of crap. Life has a way of stepping in and forcing things to be prioritized. BUT, I have completed almost all the tasks that were weighing me down and feel that many days and nights will be spent in the garage playing catch-up with the Ecovette. A lot of the things I have been doing will indirectly help with build of this car. My garage and basement are now in better shape than ever and all my **** is SUPER organized. It's a good feeling to know that everything has a storage space and all the loose hardware and cars parts and EVERYTHING else is taken care of. I even sold the engine and trans and the seats from the car. The stock bull$hit of coarse. I have a problem with seeing usefulness in stuff that most people wouldn't think twice about throwing out. It has been like this for years and I am the guy people call when they do think twice about tossing it. Fortunately I am not to the point of my neighbor, but we do think alike in the respect of keeping some things around. I had to purge and toss a bunch of crap and sell things on ebay that have been sitting around. I was just feeling a little overwhelmed and had to take the time to do it before I could feel good and concentrate more on the car. I'm sure many of you can understand.....TOO MANY PROJECTS! Oh well.
I just recieved a new heater for the garage and that will definetly help in staying motivated in the garage. My house is really old (built in the 20's and still has the original single pane glass. Needless to say, it doesn't retain heat worth crap! I keep it 52-53 degrees in the winter and spend a lot of time in my room, which is the only warm room in the house due to the heat-sensing fan on the heat register. BLA-BLA-BLA----ANYWAY---the heat is a good motivating factor.

I'll update soon.....

Heres a new pic...

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Nate K

11-23-2007, 03:57 PM

Sounds like you have been busy. Sometimes staying motivated seems like its the hardest part of project.

CRCRFT78

11-23-2007, 07:11 PM

Between your project and the Civette over at LS1.com I'm amazed at what car people will tackle when it comes to a project vehicle. I LOVE IT.

Motown 454

11-23-2007, 07:22 PM

Nice project your going to shock the heck out of alot of people I love it.

dafabricata

11-23-2007, 08:38 PM

Thank you all for the kind words! I will be resuming work on the Ecovette this coming week. I'm excited to see how things will come together now that so much of that crap that weighs ya down is taken care of. I'll update this coming week and get some more pics up.

The01Cav

11-25-2007, 07:53 AM

This is one that I will be watching regularly. Only other cars I would like to see this done to would be a Vega or Astre. Keep it up it's cool to see someone messing with a Chevette. I've always thought about a turbo 4.3 in one.

SixSpeed454SS

11-25-2007, 04:41 PM

Ecovette is an awesome project.

I have spent 20+ years doing all types of automotive wiring (race cars, EFI conversions, LSx installs, etc). I have a tough time understanding why you need a complete Solstice harness. I can understand the fuel pump wiring/plumbing may be different for the DI, but this should not be an impossible wiring job. It looks like you might be able to get some assistance from the GM guys to get the Ecotec running. It could be worth the effort.

The01Cav

12-14-2007, 06:30 AM

Any updates on this yet? Been a lil while since we've heard anything.

cmraman

01-01-2008, 09:06 PM

Any more updates and pics? seems like a cool project.

Olds442NorthStar

01-17-2008, 10:57 AM

Have you gotten it wired yet? Any updates? I am really liking the idea of this project.

Restomod

01-17-2008, 05:07 PM

He has not even logged on since 11-29-07......

deuce_454

01-22-2008, 03:37 AM

updates??

dafabricata

01-23-2008, 11:29 PM

No update worth mentioning......just some small things here and there. Been busy with a bunch of other stuff I dont want to do. As the weather here gets warmer progress will resume. The heater in my garage sucks.

I hate winter......

curly

01-24-2008, 04:50 AM

I hate winter......

Me too, couldn't agree more! I'm looking forward to seeing updates when you get chance to get back on your project. This has to be the ultimate sleeper!

Code Red

01-24-2008, 05:23 AM

I hate winter......

x elevenitybillion

darth_flavor

02-02-2008, 11:00 PM

i hear you man, good luck.

some inspiration:

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OLDFLM

02-03-2008, 08:05 AM

My ex had an 84 Chevette that would also make a cool project like this... it had a little air dam up front that you may be able to adapt?
I always invisioned doing a Turbo V6 swap "back in the day" for an ultimate sleeper... Can't wait to see more progress pics!
V/R,
Ty

turboregal

02-03-2008, 08:31 AM

Too cool, all the work will be worth it to see the face of the first "ricer" you put it too.....

TurboLark

02-05-2008, 05:32 AM

Maybe i can give a little inspiration..

My turbo Ecotec made 266rwhp thru an inefficient, oversized VW transaxle. that puts me around 380-400hp at the crank. Thats 173hp/liter, equivalent to a LS1 making 986hp. This is a stock motor with low compresion pistons, h beam rods, head and main studs, copper head gasket, better valve springs, stock ports and cams and 15lbs of boost. Going to swap to some turbo cams in a few months. My blowoff valve is leaking, and I lost 4-5lbs of boost on the dyno(saw 19-20lbs before the BOV in tuning) so should pick up 25hp or so with the BOV blocked off.

Let me know if ya need any help with that thing.
Phil

Jimmy Sean

02-11-2008, 01:50 PM

Hey you made the Jalopnik web site!!!!:firefire:

http://jalopnik.com/354821/turbo-ecotec-power-might-wake-up-this-chevette

Benoit23

02-11-2008, 01:58 PM

I love this quote; "such a combo should be a (total suicide machine) pretty zippy performer."
:drive2:

Benoit23

02-11-2008, 02:00 PM

This quote was good too; "We sure hope this (madman) adventurous soul gets the engine installed and running soon!"

AllenK

02-11-2008, 03:08 PM

Now that's gonna be cool!

GPI

02-11-2008, 04:55 PM

Just stumbled on to this thread, great project!! Hope to see more on it soon.

67velle

02-11-2008, 05:34 PM

Ok man so you going to have this done by summer??? you have to bring this to bakers in milford on a sunday!!!!! one more question is your neighbor Conley???? I have known his son for years ....... TODD 67velle:twothumbs

Fuelie Fan

02-12-2008, 03:30 PM

I hate to burst your bubble...
1) The factory 2L turbo makes 260hp at the crank with 16 psi.
2) A transmission with 65% efficiency would probably boil its fluid or destroy its gears.

I'm guessing you're running a 2.2L, so if you factor the displacement and the 20 lbs instead of 16, that predicts a power level of around 320. that also would suggest a drivetrain efficiency of 83%, which is MUCH more reasonable and actually pretty close to what we use for first estimate drivetrain losses when we start a design. I'd be willing to bet you're between 320 and 340. Still pretty freaking awesome, quite honestly. I'd love to have a tiny car like this making that kind of power.

Maybe i can give a little inspiration..

My turbo Ecotec made 266rwhp thru an inefficient, oversized VW transaxle. that puts me around 380-400hp at the crank. Thats 173hp/liter, equivalent to a LS1 making 986hp. This is a stock motor with low compresion pistons, h beam rods, head and main studs, copper head gasket, better valve springs, stock ports and cams and 15lbs of boost. Going to swap to some turbo cams in a few months. My blowoff valve is leaking, and I lost 4-5lbs of boost on the dyno(saw 19-20lbs before the BOV in tuning) so should pick up 25hp or so with the BOV blocked off.

Let me know if ya need any help with that thing.
Phil

WILWAXU

02-21-2008, 03:51 PM

Cool project!

406ben

02-21-2008, 05:23 PM

Shoot me an email, [email protected]. I've done a ton of research for my cheVette project and can shed a lot of insight but don't want to bore everyone here with it. I can relay some suspension tips, brakes, rear axle ideas, wheels, tires, ect...

dafabricata

03-16-2008, 12:02 AM

It's FINALLY starting to warm up a little bit here in michigan, and I've been getting that itch.......no not the one from my dirty ex, but the one that you get when the weather starts to break.:naughty: Going to Autorama didn't help either......OH Wait...yes it did!!
Thanks for all the compliments:twothumbs and I intend to keep things rolling with this little project. I am also into flashlights and will be doing a lot of LED lighting with this car. The efficiancy and brightness of these newer emitteris is allowing excellent "Highlighting" without having to bring along extra "Bulky" light fixtures with unsightly wires and no place to plug into.....
There is still a TON to do, but motivation can go a long way and I got an alright headstart on things last fall. Winter has given me a good amount of time to reflect and decide what direction will be taken on the build. Sometimes a nice break can give you better insight and a revised plan to help move things along more smoothly. :fingersx: I still have to get my Mill fixed (the ****in transformer blew at the begining of winter) and buy a few new tools to help make things a bit easier. I still need to find a way to get the engine running without having to drop an entire Solstice GXP wiring harness in this to make it work.
I'll update as things get moving again.:screwy:

Tony_SS

03-16-2008, 06:12 AM

Great News! I look forward to seeing more progress.

shizzy

03-16-2008, 06:24 AM

good luck with everything, I love this build

curly

03-16-2008, 06:49 AM

Glad to see that the 'vette is still a ongoing project! A friend of mine made a crack last night about his next sports car being a chevette because that's all he would be able to afford (he's going through a divorce right now... not his fault). I told him that I needed to show him what he could make a chevette into based on your project.

73z-6sp

03-16-2008, 07:39 AM

Dangit! How did I miss this project for so long? That is gonna be one cool car!

1978Chevette

03-24-2008, 06:13 PM

I cant wait to see how this this 'vette turns out. it is giving me plenty of ideas for my own 1978 Chevette with 26,000 original miles on the odometer.

70camaro406

05-20-2008, 01:08 PM

Have things gotten moving again yet? Inquiring minds want to know.

Johnny Blaze

05-20-2008, 04:12 PM

This is one of those build threads I see, and say, "Why didn't I think of that?"

Good luck man, thats gonna be awsome!

dafabricata

05-31-2008, 05:40 AM

I just got back from a trip out to Colorado for a while. I have returned to Michigan with warm weather a renewed feeling of motivation. I feel like such a lazy-ass for having barely spent any time during the long cold winter months working on some of the "smaller" aspects of the build. I ended up getting this car during a transitional time in my life and sometimes feel overwhelmed by what I have gotten myself into. Fortunately I did spend a lot of time (during the winter) reprioritizing a few of my other projects, getting rid of a TON of crap that was weighing me down, and generally figuring out what I feel needs to happen to take my life in a positive direction. That said, I feel better than ever about where the "Ecovette" is going.
I spent some time a few days ago cleaning and waxing the car. A friend had suggested maybe using a Mazda Miata front suspension. I need to look into it as the layout and size might fit the bill. The car is now at the point where more time consuming and detailed projects will make for what seems like long periods without great advances. Keeping the long term goal in mind is what I need to focus on. Sometimes keeping motivation going is hard when you don't notice the progress that is being made IMO.
Well, I just wanted to update the thread and let everyone know I haven't even considered giving up on this.

Now.......back out to the garage:evil:

72NovaSS

05-31-2008, 09:36 AM

Great project! Keep the updates coming!

SaturnVUEguy

06-05-2008, 01:01 PM

Any progress on the project? I like the idea behind this build, and would like to see more

tones2SS

06-06-2008, 03:23 PM

That is gonna be such fun to drive and cruise around in when done.
GOOD LUCK WITH THE PROJECT!!!!:drive1::git:

Johnny Blaze

07-24-2008, 09:35 AM

bump for updates?

Surfer

07-24-2008, 09:49 AM

Man I swear when I 1st saw the title I thought it said Chevelle, I was like an Chevelle with a turbo Ecotec engine :screwy: lol

cknight725

07-24-2008, 10:58 AM

Lookin forward to seeing more!

1978Chevette

08-19-2008, 02:07 PM

Did this project die? I really wanted to see what the final car turned out to be.....any updates.....

[email protected]

10-01-2008, 08:13 PM

Did this project die? I really wanted to see what the final car turned out to be.....any updates.....

yeah whats the deal man. no updates on this is unacceptable:crying:

craigs73

10-02-2008, 10:27 AM

yeah i am intrested to this is the first time i have seen this build and all i have to say is:jawdrop:

78_elky

10-02-2008, 06:12 PM

WOW just saw this for the first time as well and am so excited, I hope it works out!

craigs73

10-02-2008, 07:39 PM

man i was hoping and praying that when i got home from work tonight that the guy would have posted saying sorry guys busy with the car here are some pics. but no i have to keep waiting i don't know how much longer i can wait pleas show us at least some :kewlpics: :throw: please:jump:

maldo

10-30-2008, 10:38 AM

nice project any updates?????

Restomod

10-30-2008, 10:51 AM

He logged in yesterday but he must be holdin out on us.

craigs73

10-30-2008, 07:38 PM

yeah he has probaly got most of the work done but isnt sharing :box2: LOL! i would like to see more of this project it would be a sleeper

68Formula

10-31-2008, 11:52 AM

Logged in today as well. Either he hasn't made any progress, or he's scrapped the uniquiness of the project for a belly-button camaro that according to his rides list he's "working on trying to get." Say it isn't so, dafab!

dafabricata

11-01-2008, 07:55 AM

Alright.....sorry about the long delay in updating.
I held out because I had really nothing NEW to update the thread with.

I could kick myself in the ass for only spending maybe a week this whole summer working on my car...

Anyway, I DID kick myself in the ass to get moving, now that the cold is upon us. I've spend the last 2 weeks working long hours to make sure something gets going on this project.

I finished gutting the car and found a few areas that need to get adressed, luckily nothing major.

I spent the last few days making the frame jig and started on the frame. Progress will likely be a little slow due to limited funds, and working in my cold garage sucks. (I'm working on getting a "better" heater)

I still have NOT been able to find a wiring harness for the rest of the car or anyone that can do the wiring.

Thanks for all the comments guys!

Heres how the car sits now..

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/028-1.jpg

ProTouring442

11-01-2008, 09:24 AM

What's the issue with wiring that you cannot do your self? I understand that you will need to have someone make an engine harness, and it seems to me that there are places that should be able to work with you on that. The rest of the harness you should be able to do your self with a kit from American Auto Wire (http://www.americanautowire.com/PowerPlusSeries.html).
Their new website is a pain in the butt, but their products are very nice!

Shiny Side Up!
Bill

dusterbd13

11-01-2008, 12:39 PM

yay progress!!!

good to see this one come back from the dead.
on the wiring, if i remember right, your issue was finding a harness that would work the engine and tranny, and then integrating it to the rest of the car, correct? have you thought about megasquirt? may do what you need. if not, how about something from the import guys, like AEM or something? go stanalone. maybe FAST can work something out. as far as the rest of the car, hell ill wire it for you if you bring it to me.

michael

craigs73

11-01-2008, 06:10 PM

yes its alive!!!!! hahahaha:bananna2:

NOT A TA

11-01-2008, 06:50 PM

I'm so glad to see it's not dead!

maldo

11-05-2008, 12:44 PM

Thank you for the updates cant wait to see how this turns out.

Wish you were closer to me I would have love to come out and help.

maldo

11-05-2008, 12:47 PM

Dumb question what do you do for a living ... your knowledge of body work is really good... (the reason why i ask is that you said you are on a limited budget but with your skills you can make a ton of money on the side with your skills to help finish your car)

dafabricata

11-07-2008, 12:50 AM

We have been very fortunate to have nice weather lately and I've been taking full advantage of it.
Theres so freakin much to do that I have been all over the place, doing whatever has my attention at the time. I have to save up to buy the suspension components and decide if the vette rims are gonna stay. I have the engine/trans in place. The turbo clears the hood by about 2-2.5 inches.
I decided to put some of the car back together to get a better "visual" on how things are looking. So far I like what I see. The narrowed and tucked the bumpers, I feel make all the difference. For the headlight, I simply took out the bulb and put one of my modified flashlights in place(my other hobby)to see what it'd look like.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/0182-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/0097-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/0304-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/0068-1.jpg

CptKlutz

11-07-2008, 01:22 AM

Been following along and :cool:
Wheels: I say keep the sleeper look and split and widen the original steel ones. Tires might be a problem though?

TonyL

11-07-2008, 01:57 AM

wow! Amazing progress! wooot!

T_Raven

11-07-2008, 03:08 AM

awesome project. i love the amount of fabrication. and it's always cool to see something unexpected like this. as much as i love typical 60s muscle i like the nimbleness of small cars. i'm sure this thing will be a blast to drive, and get a lot of crazy looks lol.

srh3trinity

11-07-2008, 06:35 AM

That looks cool, I like projects that are a little left of center.

Throttle

11-07-2008, 06:58 AM

This has got to be one of the cooler projects I have seen on here, very different.. Awsome Work, keep it up..

Tony_SS

11-07-2008, 08:57 AM

Awesome - I hope the builder sticks with it.... This has to be one of the most interesting builds I've seen in awhile.

trapin

11-07-2008, 09:09 AM

70camaro406

11-07-2008, 09:46 AM

Dafab....I would forego the corvette wheels for something that's more period specific to the car. Something that looks like it could have left the factory with in the 80's.

Great progress. And a very intriguing project indeed.

I agree. On that small of a car, I'd do the 16x8 crosslace wheels from the late 80's - early 90's Pontiac Trans Am GTA's...like these...

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/1cf7_1JPG-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/1f86_1JPG-1.jpg

Tony_SS

11-07-2008, 09:51 AM

Personally I like the Corvette wheels... goes with the 'Vette' theme. ;)

trapin

11-07-2008, 04:45 PM

Too big. It'll look like it has wagon wheels on it.

Tony_SS

11-07-2008, 05:00 PM

Lol..maybe so. I'd have to see it with tires. But with the compact body it might be better suited with 16" or 17"s.

dafabricata

11-07-2008, 05:29 PM

I've been lookin around for some used rubber so I can get a Better idea of what it looks like. In person the wheels actually don't look that big. The pictures don't do it justice, especially with no tires on the rims. I personally don't want small rims on this car. While it would certainly make the car more of a "sleeper", I personally want larger wider rims on the car...although the 18's & 19's might be a bit much...to hard to say without seeing them with rubber. I have 17's on my other car and will have to try those to see if they fit the cars style better.

I could always lift it and make it a DONK by throwin' some 24's on it!..

N2OMike

11-07-2008, 05:38 PM

I agree. On that small of a car, I'd do the 16x8 crosslace wheels from the late 80's - early 90's Pontiac Trans Am GTA's...like these...

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/1cf7_1JPG-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/1f86_1JPG-1.jpg
I like these on a black.. and you could allways widen the rears

796spdbu

11-07-2008, 07:04 PM

My friend and I bolted his wifes 18" scion wheels on his chevette and they good.Could've used more dish in the rear. I have those 16" GTA wheels on my 72' chevelle.

bbcc

11-07-2008, 07:15 PM

The bad thing about the 16X8" wheels is the declining selection of rubber. It seems like every year fewer and fewer company's are making 16" tires. Well, I should say good soft street performance tires. I had a bear of a time finding a good set this summer.

Just my two cents.

It's good to see you havn't dropped the project. Goodluck with the build, and I look forward to seeing the updates.

Kenova

11-07-2008, 07:38 PM

For the headlight, I simply took out the bulb and put one of my modified flashlights in place(my other hobby)to see what it'd look like.

:hmm: You also hot rod flashlights ?

Ken

dafabricata

11-07-2008, 09:05 PM

:hmm: You also hot rod flashlights ?

Ken

Hard to believe?.....Yes, I Hot Rod Flashlights too!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/044-1.jpg

Heres the car with the 17" rims off my 00 cavalier...

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/0431-1.jpg

Young Gun

11-07-2008, 09:37 PM

17s look killer!

796spdbu

11-08-2008, 03:55 AM

I agree with young gun. 17's would look good.

Throttle

11-08-2008, 06:40 AM

17's with a dish would look killer..:spank2:

796spdbu

11-08-2008, 10:46 AM

Yeah...:idea: ... with a dish..thats what im saying!!..lol...:hand: that way it doesnt look all front wheel drivish..

dafabricata

11-08-2008, 11:15 AM

Yeah...:idea: ... with a dish..thats what im saying!!..lol...:hand: that way it doesnt look all front wheel drivish..

I agree that the 17's look good too.

With how skinny the car already is, the offset in the front will probably have to stay close to the way it is...but the rear is possible.

796spdbu

11-08-2008, 12:01 PM

I agree with the front,alot of the cars built on this site are that way.With very little dish on the front.Its cool nothing wrong with keeping the track width as wide as possible. On the same note,too much dish on the rear would look outa place.Maybe like an 8"/8.5" with maybe a centered up back spacing would look good.Maybe a little less but deffinatly nothing more than 4".But ultimately its your car. But its bad ass none the less!!

Mark Smith

11-08-2008, 01:58 PM

go with the vette wheels you already got em. look bad a===

78 Type-LT

11-08-2008, 11:22 PM

this is killer..keep up tha good work

showa

11-08-2008, 11:33 PM

Cars looking damn good...Glad you're back at it...........

MiDiablo

11-09-2008, 08:49 PM

What a COOL car!! Keep up the great work!!

78_elky

11-09-2008, 10:03 PM

man that thing looks good, i know how you feel about working in a cold garage it really sucks all the ambition and drive out of you ;)

Code Red

11-10-2008, 04:10 AM

get to it

SixSpeed454SS

11-10-2008, 04:32 AM

The 'vette wheels look neat. Can't wait to see more progree on this.

dafabricata

12-06-2008, 03:06 AM

I'm movin to a new house!

The garage is easily twice the size of my old one and better insulated!!

Hopefully once I get settled in things will pick back up and more progress will be made. I'll be able to have all my tools in one area instead of running from the garage to the basement ALL the time!

I'll update the thread with pics ASAP.

1971CHEVELLE

12-06-2008, 03:14 AM

go with the vette wheels

icebird84

12-06-2008, 04:41 AM

I like it

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/0304-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/0068-1.jpg
but please don't go down this road
it this the worst wheel form GM
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/1f86_1JPG-1.jpg

but if you want a old look here one
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/12/04312-1.jpg

but remember it is your , if you like it is good.
keep up the good work and the pics coming

craigs73

12-06-2008, 05:52 AM

go with the vette wheels:1st:

The Stickman

12-06-2008, 05:59 AM

If you want a wider stance for better handling and packaging for the wheel/tire and suspension you could add IMSA flares to it. There was a model made by AMT way back when that had them. For an idea of what I mean by IMSA flares check out my site. Otherwise the car is coming along great. I love the 4 cylinders and Inline engines. Would love to see more of them as I am into Pontiac's Super Duty 4cylinder.

GBodyGMachine

12-06-2008, 08:05 AM

Car is looking great man. Keep it up.

rlplive

12-06-2008, 02:23 PM

badass!!

78 Type-LT

12-06-2008, 03:26 PM

i love this

Swiftandswank

12-06-2008, 06:55 PM

is that a gta wheel that is the mesh style?

dusterbd13

12-07-2008, 04:31 AM

looks to be. either that, or a BMW wheel.

Michael

maldo

12-08-2008, 01:34 PM

I really like the 00 Cavalier rims better of something like that over the vette rim. I think the vette rims are to big

Heres the car with the 17" rims off my 00 cavalier...

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/0431-1.jpg

ed1le

12-08-2008, 01:37 PM

This is going to be one wicked ride when completed...keep the updates coming!

icebird84

12-16-2008, 07:43 PM

Any updates :pics2:

ill steez

12-17-2008, 11:10 AM

i like the vette wheels, but i personally think C5 Z06 wheels would look better! and they come in 17 inch (off the front) if you wanna keep them a smaller diameter.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/12/Z06Blk7-1.jpg

wiedemab

12-17-2008, 11:16 AM

The Z06 wheels would look good. I also think the old ZR1 style wheels would look cool. The replicas are pretty cheap too!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

wiedemab

12-17-2008, 11:18 AM

Upon further research, it looks like they only come in 9.5" wide. That's probably too wide for the front.

ill steez

12-17-2008, 11:23 AM

he could always have them narrowed. and i mean hes fabricating every other aspect of the car, so why not try and make the frame fit the wheels.

point is i think he should go with "vette" wheels since the car is a "vette"

wiedemab

12-17-2008, 11:29 AM

I agree! 'Vette Wheels!!!!!

I know an older lady (in her 70's) that drove an early 80's Chevette for years, but just to the grocery store and around town. Hell, I think it only had about 40K miles on it in the mid 90's. She was a pretty funny lady and would always tell people that she had a 'Vette. The check engine light was on constantly. She would just say that it was messing with her and that if she checked, she was pretty sure the engine would still be there.

Anyway, this project makes me wish I had grabbed up her 'Vette when she sold it.

I love this project!

marolf101x

12-17-2008, 01:14 PM

how about 17-inch magnesium Vette wheels?
They were an option on the C5.
17X8.5 front; 18X9.5 rear
I bought two sets as I wanted 18's all the way around my Camaro.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/12/ee41_1JPG-1.jpg

joe440

12-17-2008, 02:55 PM

awsome project! very original

DynoDave

01-11-2009, 06:18 PM

1978Chevette

01-16-2009, 03:17 PM

I think with all the fabricating you've done to the "Vette you cant do wrong with the wheel choice. Just waiting to see some updates, you've gave me plenty of ideas for my 78 Chevette w/26,000 miles....keep up the good work...

mexico

01-29-2009, 06:27 PM

I know a guy who can do your wiring. A local guy in Brighton. Let me know if you are interested. And I also know a guy who can help with tuning.

SicMonte

01-30-2009, 08:32 PM

Nnooooooooooooo!!!! Keep the c6 wheels!!!!!

i agree. On that small of a car, i'd do the 16x8 crosslace wheels from the late 80's - early 90's pontiac trans am gta's...like these...

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/1cf7_1-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/01/1f86_1-1.jpg

SicMonte

01-30-2009, 08:34 PM

I like it

but please don't go down this road
it this the worst wheel form GM
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/11/1f86_1JPG-1.jpg

but if you want a old look here one
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/12/04312-1.jpg

but remember it is your , if you like it is good.
keep up the good work and the pics coming

are you serious? Those black five spokes are hideous.

gmchevolds

01-30-2009, 08:39 PM