96 Viper GTS Venom 550 Hennessey [Archive]

spddmnjay

08-27-2007, 09:22 AM

Here is another project that I am working on. I purchased this 1996 Viper GTS Venom 550 Hennessey a couple years ago and am now in the process of "tweaking" the car...for both power and looks. This Viper only has 1800 miles and hasn't even reached it's first oil change!! I can not own a vehicle and not "tweak" it regardless of its age and/or value. So let the wrenchin' begin!!!

Here are the stats before the "tweaking" began.

Engine
V10 8.0 L - 488 cubic inch
10.0:1 compression (increased due to the Hennessey mods)
Hennessey Venom cylinder heads
Hennessey roller camshaft
Hennessey intake manifold
Hennessey Venom 550 valve covers
514 HP and 543 TQ (at wheels)

Exhaust
Hennessey 1 3/4" stainless steel long tube headers
Hennessey 3" stainless steel tubes

Brakes
Brembo 13" racing calipers - front/rear
Mov'It 13" cross drilled rotors - front/rear

Suspension
Koni coil over shocks with Eibach springs - 2" lowered

Wheels
18"x10" HRE - front
18"x13" HRE - rear

Tires
285/35 18 Michelin - front
335/30 18 Michelin - rear

These pics are what the car looked like when I purchased it.

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brrymnvette

08-27-2007, 10:26 AM

Awesome car. I've always wanted one.

Please tell me that isn't your garage the pics are in?

spddmnjay

08-27-2007, 11:10 AM

Awesome car. I've always wanted one.

Please tell me that isn't your garage the pics are in?

I have never owned such a fast car!

I wish that was my garage...but instead it is the dealership.

Stay tuned for the list of modifications. :attn:

spddmnjay

08-27-2007, 12:07 PM

Here is a list of modifications that I am planning to do. I am also working with one of the best Viper tuners, Joe Donovan - Performance By Joe - PBJ (www.performancebyjoe.com) to see how much more juice I can squeeze out of the engine.

Engine
PBJ Air Intake System
PBJ camshaft (to increase HP) - to be determined
9.0 L racing oil pan with windage tray & ACR adapter - to be determined
VEC 3 controller (to enable more precise engine control)
CNC machined power steering bracket (OEM unit has the tendency to break)
Gen. III Viper valve covers
Powdercoat valve covers and intake (darker Red)

Transmission
skip shift module
B&M Ripper Shifter

Exhaust
ceramic coat headers and tubes
Borla XR-1 Racing mufflers
Random Technology catalytic convertors

Cooling
Ron Davis aluminum racing radiator

Wheels
Forgeline SP3P wheels (gunmetal centers)
19" x 10" - front
19" x 13" - rear

Tires
Pirelli PZERRO ROSSO
285/30 19 - front
355/25 19 - rear

Exterior
upgraded Viper GTS emblems
upgraded Venom 550 Hennessey emblems
MGW Viper emblem pop open gas cap
U.S. Exotics Diamondback hood

Interior
Venom 550 Hennessey floor mats
Venom 550 Hennessey seat emblems
Venom 550 Hennessey dash plaque
MGW first strike race shifter knob
Viper GTS side sill covers
Viper GTS door pull surrounds
Aluminum control knobs - all
Aluminum dash console
Aluminum racing pedals
Push button start
Dynamat sound deadener
Stereo system - to be determined

I will be posting pics as I work through the modifications.
Cheers
Jason

curly

08-28-2007, 04:01 AM

That is my dream car... right down to the color combination and year :smoke: .

dhardison

08-28-2007, 04:10 AM

GORGEOUS Viper! I had the opportunity to drive an early Viper (one of the years without side windows) and was very impressed with the power & handling. I can't imagine how much more the Hennessey package (and now your additional mods) add to it. Good luck with your build!

brrymnvette

08-28-2007, 07:26 AM

Ah, PBJ, the local legend. His shop is always full of Vipers and LS1's. He's a busy busy busy person.

spddmnjay

08-28-2007, 07:53 AM

That is my dream car... right down to the color combination and year :smoke: .

I hear ya! This was my dream car and I can't beleive that I found one in this condition and a Hennessey to boot. Yeeeeehaaaaaaa :jump:

Stay tuned for pics. :6gears:

spddmnjay

08-28-2007, 07:55 AM

GORGEOUS Viper! I had the opportunity to drive an early Viper (one of the years without side windows) and was very impressed with the power & handling. I can't imaging how much more the Hennessey package (and now your additional mods) add to it. Good luck with your build!

If you ever have the opportunity to drive a Viper...I highly recommend that you DO IT!!! You'll love the power and mystique. :headbang: Keep watchin' for pics.

Cheers
Jason

spddmnjay

08-28-2007, 07:56 AM

Ah, PBJ, the local legend. His shop is always full of Vipers and LS1's. He's a busy busy busy person.

Joe Donovan is a legend and an awesome person to work with. I'll keep you posted as to what he recommends for upgrades.

Cheers
Jason

Marty G Cars

08-28-2007, 03:57 PM

To me the Viper is the ultimate modern American muscle car, but I may be biased. Good luck on your project Jason.

Here's what I did to my 97 GTS when I bought it 4 years ago w/2K miles on it (it now has 9K miles).

Ron Davis radiator
98+ fan assembly
Stainless smooth intake tubes
Rain baffle delete
Ballanger headers
RT cats
Corsa 3" exhaust
3:55 gears (from 3:08)
Stoptech brakes (14"/13")
Forgelines (19x10,19x13)
Michelin Pilot Sports (295/345)
Kenwood system w/10"subs (hidden),1200 watt amp (via spare removal) and door speaker upgrades
Painted white stripes (96 style) on red factory paint
Various interior upgrades and goodies including mini LED shift light

Marty

WS6

08-28-2007, 05:04 PM

They may sound really weird for having such large engines, but I really like Vipers. Love the blue with white stripes that you've got. If I was going to get a viper it would be that color combination

spddmnjay

08-28-2007, 07:09 PM

spddmnjay

08-28-2007, 07:14 PM

They may sound really weird for having such large engines, but I really like Vipers. Love the blue with white stripes that you've got. If I was going to get a viper it would be that color combination

The GTS is so similar in appearnce to the Shelby Daytona Coupe and they were only Blue with White racing stripes. Hence the reason I like the Blue/White combo. :twothumbs

Marty G Cars

08-29-2007, 05:26 AM

spddmnjay

08-29-2007, 07:03 AM

Jason - I was a member of VCA for two years and met for some of the monthly dinners and one of the Christmas parties. I ended up fading away cause everyone ended up just wanting to track and thrash their cars with a couple of them gettin some pretty serious damage at Road Atlanta. My insurance policy ("CHROME" from ANPAC) does not pay for ANY track related damages and with a hood replacement cost of over 10K I didn't see the appeal, so I didn't re-join.

However, at the last couple of cruises I went to I hooked up with a couple of other local Viper guys that said the atmosphere of the GA chapter has really changed and I may re-join for the Viper Run in north GA this Fall.

You can see pics of my Viper on cardomain.com, I think it's the 18th one listed under Dodge > Viper

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/232453

These pics don't show the red/white stripes I had painted around my amp, but pretty much everything else is the same. Most all of my add ons were bought from JonB @ PartsRack.com, he was a pretty good guy to deal with and always was cuttin some sort of deal to egg on an additional purchase. I just visited his site the other day and it seems Foregeline doesn't make my rims in 19" any more, just 18". Guess I was lucky to get em when I did.

:twothumbs

I love the look of your Viper!! :hail: Very mean looking. Thanks for posting the link.

I am a new member of the VCA and have not yet gone on any VCA outings...probably because I am in Canada. I mostly use the VCA for the technical information in the Forums. There is a lot of valuable info available on their website and I have met many Viper experts. This helps newbie's like me. :)

I had previously purchased many items from Jon B but am now purchasing all my stuff from Joe Donovan (Performance by Joe). Joe is extremely friendly and helpful without pushing sales.

Cheers
Jason

Smock67

08-29-2007, 07:42 AM

Nine Ball

08-29-2007, 08:26 AM

spddmnjay

08-29-2007, 09:09 AM

Best color combo out there. I'm contemplating the sale of my '67 and two Harleys to pick up a blue SRT-10 Coupe myself. I'd drive the Viper much more often than the bikes or Camaro that are taking up garage space ;)

Tony

Hi Tony...looks like you have a bunch of fast toys. :twothumbs

If you are thinking about purchasing a Viper, I highly recommend that you take a look at the Viper Club of America website. Here is the link http://www.viperclub.org/

Use the website as a tool to investigate the Viper you want to purchase. The members will advise you who to purchase a Viper from and who not to purchase a Viper from. The members are extremely educated on Vipers and will take care of you.

Hope this helps! Let me know if you become a VCA member.

Cheers
Jason

spddmnjay

08-29-2007, 09:13 AM

Wow i would love to have that viper. That is the perfect color combination. What are you going to be doing with those HRE's? The mods you have listed for it will make it a perfect vehicle. I know what your saying about leaving a car alone, before i got my first car i already had the intake exhaust and headers sitting in my room. Within the first 100 miles on the odometer they were installed. Damn i miss that car.

I am addicted to fast cars. My wife doesn't understand it. :hmm: I just tell her that it is much safer being addicted to fast cars instead of drugs or alcohol. She agrees. :idea:

I sold the HRE's on Ebay. I will definitely keep you all posted with pics as I go through the build.

Cheers
Jason

spddmnjay

08-29-2007, 09:43 AM

Here are some pics of the Viper in my shop just before I started the modifications.

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spddmnjay

08-29-2007, 09:53 AM

Here are some pics of disassembling the interior. I removed the carpet and original sound deadener so that new Dynamat could be installed.

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spddmnjay

08-29-2007, 10:54 AM

Here are some pics with the intake manifold and valve covers removed. I removed them so I can have them powdercoated with a much more vibrant Red. I am removing the original wiring harness tape and convulted tubing because it is old and dried out. I will be rewrapping the wiring with new tape and installing high-temp convulted tubing.

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spddmnjay

08-29-2007, 11:06 AM

When I removed the intake manifold I used a Dremmel to grind off the casting ridges where the two halves were fused together during the manufacturing process. I wanted the manifold to look smooth without the rides. Next step is to remove the original paint.

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spddmnjay

08-29-2007, 11:12 AM

Here is a picture of the stainless steel exhaust headers before they were ceramic coated.

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spddmnjay

08-29-2007, 11:17 AM

Here are the brakes before I detailed them. Will be polishing the center of the front rotors and painting the center of the rear rotors. Front rotors are two piece and the rears are one piece.

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spddmnjay

08-30-2007, 09:22 AM

This is the differential before and after. The diff. had many leaks as it was not properly sealed after the gear ratios were changed by the previous owner. I disassembled the diff and cleaned the housing surfaces to provide a better seal. I also installed a drain valve in the bottom of the case. Added some paint to the u-joints to give them some spice. Bolted the case up with stainless steel allen wrench fasteners...bling bling.

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Smock67

09-01-2007, 07:32 PM

wow the progress looks awesome. loving the pics

spddmnjay

09-02-2007, 12:50 AM

wow the progress looks awesome. loving the pics

Glad you like the pics! I'll be posting many more this week.

Cheers
Jason

WS6

09-02-2007, 11:38 AM

spddmnjay

09-02-2007, 04:35 PM

That's the first time I have seen what a viper looks like without the interior. Very similar to a vette. What Dana rear does the viper come with? I like your ideas and think the car will turn out great. Keep up the good work.

Thanks for the enthusiasim! :cheers: I am now taking more pictures of the modifications because there are so many people interested in the build. I'm diggin' it!!

I am pretty sure the rearend is a Dana 44.

Stay tuned for more pics this week.
Jason

spddmnjay

09-05-2007, 08:32 AM

These are the brakes after I detailed them. I polished the center of the front rotors and painted the center of the rear rotors. I also installed high temp Venom 550 decals on the calipers.

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spddmnjay

09-05-2007, 08:49 AM

These show the intake manifold during and after powdercoat stripping. The powdercoating was extremely difficult to remove even with industrial air craft paint stripper.

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spddmnjay

09-05-2007, 08:58 AM

I purchased Gen. III Viper valve covers to install on my Gen. II engine. I'm going to change the valve cover color to match the intake manifold. These show the valve covers before, during and after powdercoat stripping.

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spddmnjay

09-05-2007, 09:09 AM

In front of the engine is a cross brace that spans the width of the engine compartment to provide support to the upper frame. This support is aluminum and I decided to detail it. The pics show the brace before and after polishing.

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spddmnjay

09-05-2007, 09:23 AM

I am a stickler for consistency and therefore decided to paint the half shafts silver in color to look somewhat similar to the drive shaft which is aluminum. I also polished the aluminum drive shaft to clean it up. Pics are before and after painting and polishing.

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TA219

09-05-2007, 12:20 PM

Awesome build up, i love looking at something different like the Viper. what was taped to the roof of the car? a build sheet?

WS6

09-05-2007, 02:04 PM

Smock67

09-05-2007, 03:35 PM

Talk about an all encompassing build, you're covering everything that could possibly be done. Kudos on your attention to detail. I can't even imagine the final product holy shenanigans.

spddmnjay

09-05-2007, 05:35 PM

Awesome build up, i love looking at something different like the Viper. what was taped to the roof of the car? a build sheet?

The paper stuck to the underside of the roof was a quality assurance/quality control document that noted the dimensial differences (+ -) measurements at specific points on the body. I removed it from the roof and have added it to the vehicle documentation.

Keep your eyes posted for more build pics. :git:

spddmnjay

09-05-2007, 05:40 PM

Looking great Jay. You keep this up and you'll be afraid to drive the car for fear of all the cleaning you'd have to do afterwards. We can't be having that.

What color combo are you planning for the intake and valve covers?

This is definitely going to be a Warm/Hot day only driver. I won't use it for daily transportation. But when I do drive it I'm gonna drive like a maniac!!! Yeeeeehaaaaaaa

I want to paint the intake a real dark cheery red with pearl. I was thinking of painting the valve covers a gun metal color to match the Forgeline wheels I will be installing. I would then paint the VIPER logo the same color as the intake. The spark plug wires that run just below the valve covers are a dark red. I think the transitions in between the colors would be awesome.

spddmnjay

09-05-2007, 05:45 PM

Talk about an all encompassing build, you're covering everything that could possibly be done. Kudos on your attention to detail. I can't even imagine the final product holy shenanigans.

Thanks for the comments!! I've got some really awesome ideas for the interior to make it special.

With all the changes I am making I have no plans to make it look cheap with a bunch of add-ons. If I do add anything on it will be tastefull and blend with the complete project. I'm pretty sure that most will like the final project!!

spddmnjay

09-07-2007, 09:02 AM

More pics of drive shaft and half shaft.

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spddmnjay

09-07-2007, 09:08 AM

Stainless Steel headers complete with high-temp ceramic coating.

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spddmnjay

09-07-2007, 09:21 AM

These pics are of the transmission cover plate. Black plate is OEM. I had a new aluminum plate fabricated to add some bling.

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spddmnjay

09-07-2007, 09:37 AM

Pics of OEM gas cap (without Sneaky Pete logo) and new gas cap with logo.

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spddmnjay

09-07-2007, 09:52 AM

Here's the rims that will be installed. Forgeline SP3P wheels (gunmetal centers). Ya gotta love the height of the wheels stacked in my shop. They are HUGE!!! :cool:

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spddmnjay

09-07-2007, 11:35 AM

Front wheels.

Forgeline SP3P wheels (gunmetal centers)
19" x 10"

Pirelli PZERRO ROSSO
285/30 19

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spddmnjay

09-07-2007, 11:44 AM

Rear wheels.

Forgeline SP3P wheels (gunmetal centers)
19" x 13"

Pirelli PZERRO ROSSO
355/25 19

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spddmnjay

09-07-2007, 01:31 PM

When I purchased the car, I noticed that the exhaust covers were dented right next to the jacking area.

The original jacking area on the car was a small steel bar that was bent into a loop shape and welded to the frame. It appeared that the underside of the steel bar was flush with the underside of the exhaust. Therefore when the car was jacked-up the jack pad would contact the exhaust cover and dent it. So I decided to fix this.

My solution was to fabricate aluminum mounting pads that were 1/2" thick and mount them to the frame. By using this thickness the underside of the jacking pad and the exhaust cover are no longer flush with each other. I can now safely jack the car up without touching the exhaust cover.

Before I installed the new aluminum jacking plates to the frame, I removed the original bar loops. I then drilled holes in the frame and installed riv nuts so I could attach them with a machine screw.

Below are pics of the aluminum plates. The rear jacking pad is larger than the front jacking pad. I used stainless steel bolts with allen wrench heads. I counter sunk the mounting holes so the bolts would be flush.

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67BrewserSS

09-07-2007, 01:46 PM

lookin good! what r you doing with the old gas cap?

spddmnjay

09-07-2007, 04:19 PM

lookin good! what r you doing with the old gas cap?

PM sent

WS6

09-07-2007, 05:14 PM

Jay when do you sleep or work? Are you retired? You're moving so fast it's nuts.

spddmnjay

09-07-2007, 06:26 PM

Jay when do you sleep or work? Are you retired? You're moving so fast it's nuts.

I've just been catching up by posting all the photos I have...just about there. I've spent a lot of time wrenchin' on the Viper before I knew about this website. So now it's catch up time.

I hope to have the car complete by next spring. But I work on it every week. Hope you are enjoying the progress. :headbang:

WS6

09-08-2007, 07:06 AM

ahhh ok. That explains your super human speed. I'm loving the car and can't wait to see the outside finished pictures.

spddmnjay

09-08-2007, 04:41 PM

ahhh ok. That explains your super human speed. I'm loving the car and can't wait to see the outside finished pictures.

I'm pretty sure that you will like the interior to. Stay tuned!! :cheers:

Smock67

09-09-2007, 08:45 PM

oh wow this is just crazy i though u were just like car crazy and thats all you had to work on. no i dont feel as bad that my project is taking so long

spddmnjay

09-10-2007, 07:59 AM

I suggested in previous posts that I was thinking of installing a different cam and new VEC 3 unit to tweak horsepower. I never even thought about the cylinder heads. :dunno:

But then I received an excellent suggestion from a Viper Club of America member about making power. :bananna2: He mentioned that the biggest contributing factor to make power is making sure that the heads move large volumes of air. He suggested that I have the Hennessey heads checked for flow. This absolutely makes sense since I already have the intake and exhaust removed. :woot:

I spoke to Greg Good (Greg Good Cylinder Heads in Houston, Texas) on Friday about my cylinder heads. Greg is an awesome guy to speak with!! And his work is highly regarded by Viper Club of America members. So, I got out my wrenches and ripped the heads off. They will be shipped to him this week.

Stay tuned for the flow numbers. :6gears:

Below are pics of the Hennessey heads with T&D roller rockers.

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spddmnjay

09-10-2007, 08:15 AM

Engine with cylinder heads removed.

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WS6

09-10-2007, 05:11 PM

Doesn't look so different from a Gen 3 really.

spddmnjay

09-17-2007, 08:24 AM

Thanks to SilverSnake (Viper Club of America member) I decided to take some pics of the wheels mounted on the car. Thanks for giving me one of these :poke: I'm still a long ways away from putting it on the ground but I just had to see what it looked like. WOW!! :jawdrop: I LOVE IT!!!! :headbang:

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spddmnjay

09-17-2007, 08:38 AM

I installed a drain plug in the bottom of the differential. This will make it soooo much easier to maintenance. Much thanks to the Viper Club of America Technical 'How To' thread.

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Smock67

09-17-2007, 10:41 AM

spddmnjay

09-17-2007, 11:54 AM

you got some wheel gap issue that you haven't addressed. Just messing with ya progress looks great

We need that much clearance for our roads in Canada :seizure:

Smock67

09-17-2007, 01:02 PM

Wow those must be some ****ty roads.

WS6

09-17-2007, 07:27 PM

Those wheels look great on the car.

curly

09-18-2007, 03:57 AM

Those wheels look awesome on the Viper!

spddmnjay

09-18-2007, 06:35 AM

New Sneaky Pete gas cap installed. Absolutely beautiful!!

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spddmnjay

09-18-2007, 08:35 AM

One thing I noticed when I drove the Viper is the intense heat generated by the exaust. The cabin of the car turned into an oven. :eek: Many Vipers have caught on fire because of the heat generated in the side sill area.

In order to reduce the heat and possibility of fire my solution is to install heat barrier to the sill areas and wrap the exhaust with heat insulation.

I removed all of the weld spatter from the side sill area to create a smooth surface so the heat barrier would bond. I then primed and painted the sill area. Next I installed Thermo Tec's Adhesive Back Aluminized Heat Barrier rated up to 2000°F.

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spddmnjay

09-21-2007, 11:52 AM

ENGINE MOD'S - UPDATE

My initial plan was to modify my NA Gen. II engine to attain appx. 700 HP/TQ at the rear wheels. But I have since changed my mind after reviewing all the information posted by Viper Club of America (VCA) members. I have decided to SUPERCHARGE my Viper.

I have come to the conclusion that it is expensive to get big power out of the NA V10 (heads, stroker kit, intake). It appears that one of the least expensive routes is to supercharge the engine. By supercharging the engine I will attain the power numbers that I want...and more.

The supercharger that I am planning on installing is a Paxton. Joe Donovan (PBJ) has advised me to purchase the "Tuner" kit from Paxton and he will supply the rest. PBJ will be advising me very soon with the mods required. I really look forward to hearing from him.

I will be sending my Venom 550 heads to Greg Good to review and determine what is required to make them flow the best.

Stay tuned!

brrymnvette

09-21-2007, 11:56 AM

That's good, I have yet to hear a bad thing about Joe, and I'm on almost all the local boards.

WS6

09-21-2007, 04:32 PM

Interesting that people don't choose the Procharger over the paxton. super chargers are addictive. Actually it's probably boost in general, but I haven't ridden in a turbo car

spddmnjay

09-23-2007, 06:11 AM

Interesting that people don't choose the Procharger over the paxton. super chargers are addictive. Actually it's probably boost in general, but I haven't ridden in a turbo car

Paxton makes a complete package to fit in the small area remaining in the Viper engine bay.

Stay tuned :naughty:

TBART70

09-23-2007, 04:41 PM

put a DLM kit on a 510 in. stroked viper and it broke the crank snout, he ain't happy. Was fast while it lasted.

spddmnjay

09-23-2007, 05:04 PM

put a DLM kit on a 510 in. stroked viper and it broke the crank snout, he ain't happy. Was fast while it lasted.

I investigated stroker kits for the Viper but decided against them because there is a greater possibility of having the motor 'grenade' due to the rod ratio. Apparently the cylinder walls become oval shaped over time and the rings wear out much faster. There is also a much bigger possibility of having the rod and crank fail due to the excessive forces.

So I'm gonna stick with a stock stoke/bore and supercharge the beast! :naughty:

GT500KR_Vert

09-23-2007, 05:59 PM

I like ProCharger better too. Actually I'd pick ProCharger and Vortec over Paxton.

TBART70

09-24-2007, 12:13 PM

the problem was the supercharger kit braking the crank snout, it had nothing to do with the stroke.

spddmnjay

09-28-2007, 07:15 AM

Pic of dash with instrument gauges, stereo and steering wheel removed. I have left the passanger air bag intact as I didn't want any mishaps...BANG! :eek: :help:

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spddmnjay

09-28-2007, 07:35 AM

In an attempt to reduce cabin temperatures due to engine and exhaust heat I installed 2000°F Heat Barrier on the transmission tunnel and next to the door openings.

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09-28-2007, 07:57 AM

When I was driving my Viper I noticed how difficult it was to read the speedometer. There are so many numbers on the gauge that my eyes started to criss cross. I'm considering sending all the gauges to Classic Instruments and having a custom gauge faces made. I want the gauges to look more modern and less congested. Below are pics of the original Viper gauges.

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4birdman

09-28-2007, 09:54 AM

At first I was like WTF, your speedo goes up to 360mph?

And then I looked at your location and realized what the hell I was actually reading. :lol:

spddmnjay

10-04-2007, 06:15 AM

I just finished installing the Dynamat type sound deadener in the interior. I have yet to complete the rear 'trunk' area where the subwoofer and rear speakers will be installed.

Welcome Earthlings! Step right in and I'll take you to my leader :seizure:

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Smock67

10-04-2007, 09:14 AM

spddmnjay

10-04-2007, 11:12 AM

ugh i hated when i sound deadened my car such a pain in the ass. talk about blood sweat and tears into a car. i cut my finger nasty and bled all over the interior. Well worth it in the end though.

Looks real good how many layers did you do?

Pain in the ass is 100% correct! I've only done one layer but thinking of adding another layer on the floor pans and transmission tunnel...I guess basically everywhere.

WS6

10-04-2007, 03:17 PM

spddmnjay

10-05-2007, 06:06 PM

I won't use that type sound deadening any more. I've done it too many times and it's annoying. There are a number of spray on deadeners that work great. I wouldn't pull that stuff up now and it does work, but wow is it a pain. You did a good job though Jay.

Thanks for the compliment! The only reason I installed the mat type sound deadener is that I had purchased a full roll and couldn't return it. Next time I will install Lizard Skin. Spray on stuff. :razz:

spddmnjay

10-07-2007, 05:15 PM

Spare Tire is a MUST!!!

Well I thought I was being a real smart fella when I removed my spare tire out of the back of my Viper to remove weight and then sold it on Ebay. :hmm:

I was just informed by a Viper Club of America member that the spare tire is a very integral part of the rear crumple zone. Apparently the spare tire ties the whole rear structure together as one complete unit. I was also informed that if I ever spun out and crashed into something backwards their is a very good chance of injury if the spare tire is not in the rear. In addition, the insurance company will then check to see if the rear tire was in the car and if not then I am absolutely @#$%@#$%!!!

So needless to say I am going to get another spare tire and put it back in its place.

WS6

10-08-2007, 06:03 AM

spddmnjay

10-09-2007, 11:15 AM

This is the rear 'luggage/storage' area before I install the sound deadener. Notice the cavity where the spare tire should be. I will be building seperate speaker housing/enclosure that can be set into this area after the carpet has been installed.

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spddmnjay

10-09-2007, 11:17 AM

wow that's something I had never heard before. Is it the tire or just the carrier that is integral?

Lizard skin is up there on choices for spray on deadner. There is another my friend just showed me the other day. I'll have to search for it though.

Apparently it is the tire/rim combo mounted together and installed into the spare tire cavity that acts as safety barrier. That is how the Dodge engineers designed the rear of the car.

WS6

10-09-2007, 06:31 PM

Very interesting. Well I hope it's not terrible getting another spare tire.

spddmnjay

10-12-2007, 08:21 AM

Rear 'luggage/storage' area complete with sound deadener.

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spddmnjay

10-12-2007, 08:38 AM

I've been told that the cable in the pictures below links both sides of the frame rails for safety in the event of a rear end collision. Please note I have the exhaust heat deflector plate removed and inner wheel wells.

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Smock67

10-12-2007, 11:41 AM

Wow thats crazy, i never would have guessed that a spare tire would be that big of a deal. Crazy Dodge engineers. Nice progress BTW

Chris

spddmnjay

10-12-2007, 05:33 PM

Wow thats crazy, i never would have guessed that a spare tire would be that big of a deal. Crazy Dodge engineers. Nice progress BTW

Chris

You and I both!! I would have never sold my spare on Ebay if I had known. Oh well :banghead:

KwikGT

10-13-2007, 04:29 PM

spddmnjay

10-13-2007, 04:33 PM

SPARE TIRE ISSUE

I asked JonB (Parts Rack) to comment on the Spare Tire issue. Here are his comments:

"If you have a roll bar or cage, no worry. HOWEVER

Some history: When Vipers were first crash-tested by Fed mandate, it was discovered that the RT/10 TRUNK LID can dislodge in a rear crash. If the spare is not in the trunk, the trunk lid can intrude into the cockpit thru the rear window. The rear sport hoop acts as a blade-guide and the trunklid edge becomes a guillotene. The INFLATED Spare Tire, if BOLTED IN, becomes a great shock-absorber and rear tub stiffener and prevents the decklid from moving forward and therefore prevents head loss.

Team Viper members attending the FIRST EVER VIPER NATIONALS DRAG RACES in TX in 1995 pointed this out to the the TECH INSPECTOR there, and spares have been madated in RT/10s ever since. I am fairly certain that tech inspector was the same guy who informed SKIP THOMAS at VIPER DAYS. That tech inspector was me. At the fisrt VOI-sanctioned drags {VOI-4 Orlando} we required Spares in RT10s only.

If you have a ROLL BAR in the car, this prevents the trunk intrusion, so the spare was less important, but still a functional rear-crash safety device preventing more serious frame collapse. So VRL maintained the requirement in non-roll-cage cars, even tho federal REAR CRASH DATA on GTSs was not as forboding results as RT/10.

I think the SRT Spare tie-down is to prevent its mounting-point ejection, not to make it a structural component; But if it stays in place it certainly helps absorb impact. SRT10 frames are carry-over to 2008, and there is NO SPARE in the 08. I am curious about any crash-test results and steps taken for 08. "

Additional question to JonB:

My GTS does not have a roll bar and I do not intend on tracking the car. Having said that, is the spare tire a government requirement and/or insurance requirement for safety reasons?

JonB response:

"ABSOLUTLEY NOT. Racing venue sanctioning body requirements only. But anyone can sue you for any reason, or for no reason, if they get hurt in your car.

I just spoke to my friend SKIP SHIFTY over at DOT and he says "WE ARE THE FEDS and WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU......BUT WE HAVE NOT MANDATED THAT REQUIREMENT"

For more Skip Shifty Antics, Search SKIP SHIFTY"

So the consensus is that the spare tire is NOT PART OF THE BODY/FRAME/CHASSIS design.

spddmnjay

10-13-2007, 04:45 PM

Hey Spddmn,

Back to your power adder. I had mentioned on the Mustang page that I have a friend with a Vortech assisted Gen 3 Viper (otherwise stock). He loves it! It puts down over 700 at the wheels and actually beats my other buddy's 800hp Supra! (can't match that Viper torque). He drives the car "hard" almost everyday and has had no issues what so ever!(other than tire wear)

Car looks awesome! You could sell tickets for rides when you're done! I'd buy a couple.:worship:

Again I've now learnt that the easiest way to add power to a Viper is by forced induction. Supercharging options are Roe Racing and Paxton. And there are many Twin Turbo suppliers (haven't reaserched because too expensive).

I spoken with many Viper Club of America members who favor the Paxton due to its overall power. Plus I personally like the looks of the Paxton. That way I still retain the OEM intake manifold.

I'm working with Joseph Dell, Viper expert, because he used to run a Paxton in his Viper. His Viper was putting out 965 HP at the rear wheels. So guess what HP/TQ numbers I am aiming for...you guessed it around 950 HP/TQ at the rear. Should make for one fast ride.

Today Joseph is running twin turbos with approximately 1600 HP/TQ. Now that is unbelievable!!

Oh, and I really enjoy the enthusiasim that members show towards my build. :cheers: I really enjoy telling people about it, etc.

KwikGT

10-13-2007, 05:35 PM

I would be amazed if they actually made the spare tire part of the structural integrity of the car.

I read somewhere that a lot of the import cars rely on the spare tire in rear impacts.

I guess if I had to take a hard impact I would rather have a tire between me and the wall! :rolleyes:

spddmnjay

10-24-2007, 06:43 PM

OMG!!! :help!: Where is my Viper??? :attn: Yuka, yuka, yuka :lmao: I thought it was time to rewax my shop floor before I start doing some serious engine work. Pics of my shop with a brand new waxed floor.

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Smock67

10-24-2007, 06:49 PM

nice garage, i wish mine looked that nice

spddmnjay

10-24-2007, 07:17 PM

nice garage, i wish mine looked that nice

Thanks!

I grew up restoring cars with my Dad in our driveway at home. I don't know how we did it but we did. Right outside in the elements and nothing overhead to protect us from the weather. Oh, and I live in Canada so that means we only have 5-6 months (MAX) to work outside.

I told myself that if the day ever came where I could afford to build a shop, I would. Well the day came and I built my dream. I want to spend all my time in there...much to my wifes dismay.

spddmnjay

10-24-2007, 07:18 PM

Viper outside my shop and on the ground...awaiting to re-enter shop. I LOVE THE WHEELS!! :hail:

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spddmnjay

10-24-2007, 07:25 PM

Ahhhhh, Viper feels so much better back in its resting spot. :razz:

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spddmnjay

10-24-2007, 07:45 PM

I purchased a set of Ultimate Racing Pedals for the Viper.

The OEM accelerator pedal is plastic. The aluminum racing pedal is fastened to the OEM plastic pedal with four stainless steel screws. I noticed that approximately 1/4" of the OEM plastic pedal was showing once the aluminum racing pedal was attached. I decided to use my Dremmel and remove the 1/4" of plastic so that when you look at the pedal you will only see the aluminum.

Pics show a before, during and after Dremmel work.

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Smock67

10-25-2007, 05:02 AM

Good work you have there, your viper is sittin a little high, i'm aussming thats related to it being stripped. But it still looks so nice with those wheels.

spddmnjay

10-25-2007, 06:04 AM

Good work you have there, your viper is sittin a little high, i'm aussming thats related to it being stripped. But it still looks so nice with those wheels.

Yes, it is sitting a little high because I moved it around by pushing it. The suspension has not had a chance to settle. Plus all the interior is out and a lot of engine.

In fact my Viper is lowered by 2" and makes for one mean lookin' stance.

WS6

10-25-2007, 06:17 PM

Looking great Jay. Any idea on when you hope to have it back together completed?

spddmnjay

10-28-2007, 08:05 AM

Building for SPEEEED!! :drive2:

Since I am going to great lengths to build a fast car I thought the next thing that should be investigated is the transmission and rear end. So I created a thread and asked the question, If I want to drive my Viper 250mph what is required for transmission and rear end? Here is the thread http://forums.viperclub.org/rt-10-gts-discussions/607470-tt-car-transmission-rear-gears-advise.html

spddmnjay

10-28-2007, 08:10 AM

UPDATE: Heads shipped to GREG GOOD CYLINDER HEADS

I look forward to hearing from Greg when he receives them. I am very curious to see how well they flow having already been 'tweaked' by Hennessey.

I will ask Greg to provide me with flow data before working on them. I am also curious if he what his other recommendations may be...if any. I will then post the information here.

**Greg is one of the best Viper head porters in the industry

Stay tuned :jump:

spddmnjay

10-28-2007, 08:13 AM

UPDATE: I will be installing CPE Sidemount Twin Turbos instead of a Paxton

Thanks to Viper Club of America members DSG2003SVT and JD I plan on purchasing a twin turbo setup from CPE (Paolo Castellano)!!

I have spoken to Paolo and I must say that I AM SO PUMPED TO INSTALL TWIN TURBOS ON MY VIPER!! Paolo is very enthusiastic and a very comical character He took the time to answer all my questions and reply to all my emails. The best part is I can install the system myself!!

Here is Paolo's website http://www.cpeturbos.com/

spddmnjay

10-28-2007, 08:20 AM

Looking great Jay. Any idea on when you hope to have it back together completed?

I wish I could give a completion date but I honestly have no idea...

At this time there are still to many unknows that I cannot control...such as when the custom hood will be completed, how long it will take to build the engine, etc. I have never modified a Viper and am therefore taking extreme care to make the right decisions and do it right.

All I can say is stay tuned and I will update this thread on a regular basis.

Thanks for the note

Smock67

10-28-2007, 02:24 PM

spddmnjay

10-29-2007, 04:43 PM

Atleast your doing it right. So many people seem to rush some stuff on their cars and then it turns around on them and bites them in the ass. Good to hear the Viper is getting the best treatment possible. I love watching the progress on your car as a i love this particular year/ color combo on the viper.

My motto has always been do it right or don't do it at all. I tend to draaaaag my projects out a little longer because I take my time. I know it drives my friends crazy because they can't wait for it to be finished.

Stay tuned for updates.

Young Gun

10-29-2007, 05:35 PM

spddmnjay

10-30-2007, 08:06 AM

This is probably one of my favorite builds im watching right now...the 1996 viper gts was the first car I ever fell in love with...my best friend at the time (we were 7 years old at the time) told me about it and I thought it was the coolest thing ever...I will hopefully be able to own one, one day!

Cool!! I have also dreamt of owning a Viper for a long, long time. My dream has come true.

Did you know that used Viper market is most affordable today. If you are every thinking of purchasing a Viper I highly recommend searching the Viper Club of America website for information www.viperclub.org (http://www.viperclub.org) The website has awesome information and will help guide you to a perfect Viper purchase.

2MCHPWR

10-30-2007, 11:09 AM

those early ones don't have ABS right? would you think of installing it?

spddmnjay

10-30-2007, 01:05 PM

those early ones don't have ABS right? would you think of installing it?

I am pretty sure the first generation Vipers do not have ABS...but don't quote me on that. If my Viper didn't have ABS I wouldn't install it.

spddmnjay

10-31-2007, 08:43 PM

I am working on the engine build details with Viper expert, Joseph Dell a.k.a. JD. Here is what I am thinking using. But this is just preliminary. I haven't added up the $$$$ yet so things may change :scared:

Pistons - JE
Rings - Child & Albert
Wrist Pins - JE
Rods - Manley or Oliver
Cam - Greg Good to select grind
Roller Lifters - Comp Cam
Push Rods - Comp Cam
Main Caps - billet
Bearings - yes but don't know manufacturer???
Heads - Greg Good (flowed and massaged)
Damper - ATI
Throttle Bodies - Accufab
Fasteners - ARP
Gaskets - Cometic

JD has advised me to bore and stroke the engine. I am going to discuss with him the displacement to shoot for. JD's Viper is 510 cu in.

spddmnjay

11-07-2007, 07:57 PM

Removing front facia to prepare for engine removal and pending twin turbo install.

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spddmnjay

11-07-2007, 08:08 PM

Front facia removed.

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Smock67

11-08-2007, 05:36 AM

she's getting a little naked

Young Gun

11-08-2007, 05:38 AM

whats gonna be going in the front then?

spddmnjay

11-08-2007, 07:06 AM

she's getting a little naked

It's gonna be buck naked pretty soon. :jump:

spddmnjay

11-08-2007, 07:07 AM

whats gonna be going in the front then?

Just under the headlights is where the intercoolers will go. Each side gets and intercooler because to feed the twin turbos.

Smock67

11-08-2007, 09:49 AM

oh thats sweet dual intercoolers for the TT's how big are they?

spddmnjay

11-08-2007, 10:40 AM

oh thats sweet dual intercoolers for the TT's how big are they?

Here is a pic of the intercoolers installed on one of CPE's customer cars. They are HUGE! :hail:

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Young Gun

11-08-2007, 10:43 AM

ohhh i thought he was gonna get some new front bumper

spddmnjay

11-10-2007, 05:36 PM

THIS JUST IN...

I have just hired a 3D computer rendering expert who will be generating the following renderings of my Viper!

Exterior - with new wheels and custom hood
Interior - with custom; upholstery, gauges and dash
Chassis - will include suspension, wheels, engine and tansmission
Engine - with twin turbos

Some people may ask, "Why are you having 3D renderings done for your car?" Because I want to see what my car will look like before it is complete. This will give me a real good idea of what the custom hood will look like and the twin turbo system.

But simply.... I LOVE 3D COMPUTER RENDERINGS!!! + IT'S COOL

Stay tuned for some awesome 3D pictures of my Viper

spddmnjay

11-12-2007, 08:19 PM

Hood is off! Getting ready for engine removal.

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BMF Machine

11-13-2007, 02:46 AM

Just PlaiN SicK! In a very good way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

spddmnjay

11-13-2007, 08:20 AM

Just PlaiN SicK! In a very good way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cooool man :smoke: Hope you enjoy the progress :twothumbs

spddmnjay

11-13-2007, 10:52 AM

Thought I would post the first piece of rendering received. I can't wait to see the wheels complete! This is just the beginning :hail:

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West Texas Z

11-13-2007, 11:05 AM

I'm not much of a Viper fan but damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yours is sick! Keep up the good work.

spddmnjay

11-13-2007, 06:03 PM

I'm not much of a Viper fan but damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yours is sick! Keep up the good work.

Thanks for the positive input!! I'll try to turn you into a Viper fan. :6gears:

Smock67

11-13-2007, 09:04 PM

**** i was turned a long time ago and this is making me even more of a fan. If i ever get my car done i may just have to drive up to Canada to see this beast in person.

Project69

11-13-2007, 10:05 PM

Pshh wish i could afford to do this to my 05' im barely making payments on the damn thing lol

69camarokid

11-13-2007, 10:27 PM

im glad i live in California so i dont have to worry about pissing your car off. Its getting to the point that im afraid it would eat my camaro if the two of them were ever alone together.

but seriously man, that is one wicked car. As myself still being a kick and dreaming of owning a viper one day.... that car is wicked badass!

spddmnjay

11-14-2007, 08:56 AM

**** i was turned a long time ago and this is making me even more of a fan. If i ever get my car done i may just have to drive up to Canada to see this beast in person.

Cool...another Viper lover. :git:

Did you know that anyone can become a Viper Club of America member even though you do not own a Viper? The membership is very affordable, roughly $100/yr (don't quote me on that) and you even get four Viper magazines per year. :woot:

Many Viper enthusiasts join the Viper Club of America to talk with owners and basically get educated about Vipers. Website is www.viperclub.org (http://www.viperclub.org)

Oh, and I plan on bring my Viper South once it is complete. I will let everyone know where it will be so that if anyone wants to see it in person.

Cheers
Jason

spddmnjay

11-14-2007, 09:01 AM

spddmnjay

11-14-2007, 09:03 AM

I have noticed that a few members are interested in Viper stuff so I thought I would share my build link on the Viper Club of America http://forums.viperclub.org/rt-10-gts-discussions/605759-96-viper-gts-venom-550-making-more-mods.html

I post the same information on the Viper Club of America that I do on this website but you can see all the different input I have received from various Viper experts.

Enjoy!
Jason

TA219

11-14-2007, 09:32 AM

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That is just awesome! I like how the filters look like fangs :rotfl:

TBART70

11-14-2007, 02:23 PM

[quoteHood is off! Getting ready for engine removal.quote]

your crazier than my buddy Phil. Have fun putting it back together, I lost count of how many bolts were left over after his. HA HA:banghead:

CarlC

11-14-2007, 04:04 PM

Here is a pic of the intercoolers installed on one of CPE's customer cars. They are HUGE! :hail:

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Nice work!

The intake tubes, just downstream of the filters where they pass over the radiator support. What are the height and width dimensions? Are they a standard/available part?

Thanks.

spddmnjay

11-14-2007, 05:58 PM

Nice work!

The intake tubes, just downstream of the filters where they pass over the radiator support. What are the height and width dimensions? Are they a standard/available part?

Thanks.

The intake tubes are HUGE!!! The Viper shown in the photo is not my car. Paolo Castellano, owner of CPE, will know exactly what those filters are. Go to his website at http://www.cpeturbos.com/ as his contact information is on there.

Hope this helps!
Cheers

spddmnjay

11-27-2007, 07:59 AM

Below are the renderings for the custom instrument gauges. Changes made to all gauges were; new font style, text size reduced, new needle indicator, added Sneaky Pete (snake)logo and Viper GTS text.

Speedometer -(km/h)
I removed the mph numbers from the gauge for clarity. Also increased to 400 km/h = 248.5 mph. Removed the trip odometer and the reset button.

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Fuel

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BMF Machine

11-27-2007, 07:59 PM

Keep going man, don't stop now!!!!!!

Damn your moving on that beast!

Smock67

11-28-2007, 12:03 AM

Damn those gauges are sweet. If you don't mind me asking how much is getting custom gauges done costing you?

spddmnjay

11-28-2007, 07:08 AM

Damn those gauges are sweet. If you don't mind me asking how much is getting custom gauges done costing you?

I've spoken with a couple of companies and it ranges between $500 to $1000 for custom gauge faces. I will send them my OEM Viper gauges so that they can install the new gauge faces.

I'll let you know who I get to do the work.

Cheers

WS6

11-28-2007, 08:21 AM

simple yet effective, just the way gauges should be. Some one at Lexus should take a hint.

spddmnjay

11-28-2007, 08:15 PM

simple yet effective, just the way gauges should be. Some one at Lexus should take a hint.

Thanks for the compliment:)

spddmnjay

12-01-2007, 08:49 PM

Engine removal

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WS6

12-02-2007, 07:56 AM

Wow! It really does look so similar to an LSx. You going to be able to remember how it goes back together Jay?

spddmnjay

12-02-2007, 12:47 PM

Wow! It really does look so similar to an LSx. You going to be able to remember how it goes back together Jay?

Not sure if I will remember how to put it all back together. The jury is out on that one. :candle:

ROACHZ28

12-02-2007, 03:16 PM

Good luck with your build!:drive:

spddmnjay

12-02-2007, 07:39 PM

Good luck with your build!:drive:

I have selected Davenport Motorsports in Calgary, Alberta to do all the engine machining and assembly. Davenport has built many Viper engines and is therefore very familiar with them.

I have asked my engine builder to take pictures of all the machining while it is being done. I will then post those pictures.

Cheers
Jason

Smock67

12-03-2007, 05:36 AM

mmmmm can't wait for more pictures. I love this build.

spddmnjay

12-04-2007, 07:53 AM

My Viper's frame renderings. Tom will be rendering the suspension and wheels next.

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spddmnjay

12-04-2007, 08:10 AM

Below are some renderings that Tom (individual who is creating renderings of my Viper) did for his '69 Camaro. This will give you an idea of what type of renderings will be generated for my Viper. Needless to say his work is OUT OF THIS WORLD!! :woot:

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WS6

12-05-2007, 04:30 AM

wow those renderings are amazing.

Smock67

12-05-2007, 05:26 AM

DAAAMMMN if thats not a work of art i don't know what is.

spddmnjay

12-05-2007, 12:13 PM

More frame rendering pics. Amazing detail!

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robyrd

12-05-2007, 06:40 PM

Wow those renderings are incredibly impressive! Do you know what program he is using to do these? Incredible!

ROACHZ28

12-05-2007, 07:30 PM

That Viper is going to be sick once you finish it!!!!!!!:firefire:

jerome

12-05-2007, 11:42 PM

Those are the most amazing renderings i've ever seen. I don't know what would take longer: those renderings, or building the car. They are beautiful. What program is it?

Jerome

conVerted

12-06-2007, 10:23 AM

Thats one sick build! Awesome.

spddmnjay

12-06-2007, 02:50 PM

Computer rendering software is Autodesk 3ds Max

Smock67

12-06-2007, 06:30 PM

Wow that frame looks so real

dodge

12-06-2007, 07:50 PM

Amazing renderings

spddmnjay

12-07-2007, 07:06 AM

I can't wait to see the renderings coloured and a proper background shown (asphalt or road) :naughty:

spddmnjay

12-07-2007, 12:10 PM

Engine in various stages of disassembly.

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spddmnjay

12-07-2007, 12:16 PM

Crank...WOW is it ever heavy!!! It weighs a healthy 90lbs!:jawdrop:

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brrymnvette

12-07-2007, 12:18 PM

Do they make lightweight billet cranks for those? I'd imagine it'd free up a ton of weight and power.

spddmnjay

12-07-2007, 12:22 PM

Do they make lightweight billet cranks for those? I'd imagine it'd free up a ton of weight and power.

Yes they do make lightweight billet cranks. But they cost $5000 each! YIKES.

I'm thinking of having the crank lightened and strengthened using a process such as Cryogenic Processing.

spddmnjay

12-07-2007, 12:23 PM

Stock forged piston

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Smock67

12-08-2007, 04:42 AM

that a heavy ass crank. everything looks to be in good shape.

got_hp?

12-09-2007, 08:16 AM

Yes they do make lightweight billet cranks. But they cost $5000 each! YIKES.

ouch.......youd think that was a shortblock price!

spddmnjay

12-09-2007, 10:39 AM

ouch.......youd think that was a shortblock price!

plus it takes approximately 6 months to make a billet crank as it is not an off the shelf part.

spddmnjay

12-11-2007, 01:26 PM

More wheel renderings

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spddmnjay

12-11-2007, 01:27 PM

Render planning

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Smock67

12-11-2007, 10:02 PM

Wow that is simply sick

spddmnjay

12-12-2007, 03:11 AM

Wow that is simply sick

I'm glad you like it :twothumbs This is only the beginning :smoke:

spddmnjay

01-05-2008, 05:14 PM

Transmission removed and ready for inspection. I am having the tranny inspected even though it only has 1800 miles because I would kick myself if I re-installed and found out it needed maintenance.

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spddmnjay

01-05-2008, 05:26 PM

Pics of seat, center console and door panel before being upholstered. I have selected a wicked awesome material to cover the seats, center console and door panels with. Door panels will have two different materials. I will not be putting carpet back on the door panels.

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spddmnjay

01-05-2008, 05:34 PM

Sure lookin' bare with wheels and brakes removed. I decided to upgrade my brakes. So I ordered a set 14" SRT10 Calipers from Dave's Big Brakes. Plus I ordered an emergency brake kit for the rear.

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spddmnjay

01-05-2008, 05:44 PM

Now that the engine is out I took the opportunity to remove all the welding spatter inside the engine bay area, along the transmission tunnel and around the shock mounts. These are the before pictures.

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01-05-2008, 05:59 PM

Pics after removing all the weld spatter. Next step is to prime the bare metal areas. Then some black paint. I will also be installing heat barrier to the transmission tunnel.

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spddmnjay

01-05-2008, 06:12 PM

I have been struggling to find a company that wants to create custom gauge faces for my Viper. It seems that most of the companies only want to work on older muscle car gauges. They don't want to touch new stuff like the Viper. But I think I may have found someone with the expertise to work on these gauges.

Before I send the gauges away I made sure to remove the gauge face from the gauge. The gauge face was crimped onto the gauge housing. I was pretty sure that noone would want to attempt removing the gauge face, so I did. I used my trustworthy Dremmel with a cut of bit and proceeded to remove the crimped lip. Worked like a charm.

Below are pics of the two different size gauges in my Viper.

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Project69

01-05-2008, 06:13 PM

Keep up the work, you make me want to tear into my 05' lol

spddmnjay

01-05-2008, 06:15 PM

Keep up the work, you make me want to tear into my 05' lol

I encourage you to rip into your Viper :cheers: I feels great to do this to a Viper that only has 1800 miles. :smoke:

spddmnjay

01-09-2008, 07:34 AM

Rendering images of the Ron Davis radiator that I will be installing.

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WS6

01-09-2008, 04:51 PM

wow Jay. You're doing great work.

Smock67

01-10-2008, 06:34 AM

Thats pretty much amazing

spddmnjay

01-10-2008, 10:15 AM

These pics will give you an idea how the engine renderings are initiated and then expanded to form the engine.

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spddmnjay

01-10-2008, 10:19 AM

Thanks for the comments guys!

I am having a blast and enjoy learning and sharing this info with others. :bananna2:

Stay tuned for more good stuff :cool:

spddmnjay

01-10-2008, 10:37 AM

Spindle and wheel bearing/hub.

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jackfrost

01-10-2008, 12:50 PM

just curious... but why is each individual part being rendered? don't you just need the exterior panels rendered?

Young Gun

01-10-2008, 02:11 PM

i turn green with envy everytime i look at this build!!! keep it up!

spddmnjay

01-10-2008, 02:38 PM

just curious... but why is each individual part being rendered? don't you just need the exterior panels rendered?

Each individual part is rendered and then connected together much like if you were physically building the car.

Not sure what you mean by exterior panels? If you are referring to the body panels they will be done very soon. But before he does the body panels, he wants to complete the chassis which includes; suspension, brakes, engine, transmission, differential and exhaust.

Hope this helps!

jknight16

01-10-2008, 02:43 PM

spddmnjay

01-10-2008, 05:44 PM

I was wondering the same thing actually, in regards to rendering all of the individual pieces. To the uninformed (me) it seemed really overkill to do each and every piece, but it is undoubtedly amazing that the rendering will go into that kind of detail, truly amazing. I guess we're used to seeing Photoshop renderings to "see what the car is going to look like before its done" (and some pretty darn good ones at that) but this is just beyond...

The rendering artist, Tom Sullivan, is absolute crazy for detail! :hail: I have easily sent him over 100 pictures of my Viper so that he can get every piece of the car just right.

He also plans on rendering the engine components such as; pistons & rods, camshaft, crankshaft, etc. etc. :smoke:

Much, much more to come :naughty:

spddmnjay

01-11-2008, 07:03 AM

Starting to look like the engine :smoke:

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got_hp?

01-11-2008, 03:01 PM

The rendering artist, Tom Sullivan, is absolute crazy for detail! :hail: I have easily sent him over 100 pictures of my Viper so that he can get every piece of the car just right.

He also plans on rendering the engine components such as; pistons & rods, camshaft, crankshaft, etc. etc. :smoke:

Much, much more to come :naughty:

obviously the guy does amazing work............i think the guys who were asking about it are just curious WHY there is all this rendering work done in the first place?

usually we just see people do a couple exterior renderings to show what the car is planned to look like when its finished, but you seem to be actually blueprinting every single detail.

im guessing its just for fun and to have a neat record of the buildup?

whatever the reason, its definetly cool and we love seeing all the updates.

spddmnjay

01-12-2008, 12:19 PM

obviously the guy does amazing work............i think the guys who were asking about it are just curious WHY there is all this rendering work done in the first place?

usually we just see people do a couple exterior renderings to show what the car is planned to look like when its finished, but you seem to be actually blueprinting every single detail.

im guessing its just for fun and to have a neat record of the buildup?

whatever the reason, its definetly cool and we love seeing all the updates.

Cool!! Happy to hear that you like the updates :cheers:

Tom Sullivan is an absolute fanatic for rendering engines and anything mechanical. Tom has always wanted to do a Viper engine and then the opportunity presented itself.

Once Tom has the engine completely rendered he will have the ability to render custom valve covers, custom intake manifolds, superchargers and twin turbo systems.

There are quite a few Viper part suppliers, Viper tuners and Viper enthusiasts who would like to see these what these customs items would like like on their Vipers before they purchase them or manufacturer them. So once he has the base engine complete it will be very easy for him to sell his services to these individuals.

Same goes for custom hoods, custom wheels, custom interior components, etc. etc.

Needless to say there will be many, many more renderings to come. Enjoy the progress :pics2:

Cheers
Jason

spddmnjay

01-12-2008, 04:17 PM

New set of 14" 2003 Viper SRT-10 calipers, brake lines, proportioning valve and emergency brake kit from Dave's Big Brakes. These will be installed on my Viper. :headbang:

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spddmnjay

01-12-2008, 04:29 PM

Picture of the speedometer to show mileage. Mileage is in KM's.

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Project69

01-12-2008, 04:40 PM

Your gonna LOVE!!!! the stopping power those brakes give you.

I wish i could find a way to mount my SRT brakes on my camaro lol

Young Gun

01-12-2008, 04:44 PM

2000 miles and a lil change...damn that thing was somebodies garage queen!!!

spddmnjay

01-12-2008, 04:46 PM

Your gonna LOVE!!!! the stopping power those brakes give you.

I wish i could find a way to mount my SRT brakes on my camaro lol

I recommend calling Dave and see if he can help you. He figured out a way to put Gen. III brakes on a Gen. II Viper so maybe he can help you. Here is is website www.davesbigbrakes.com/ (http://www.davesbigbrakes.com/)

Tell Dave that Jason from the Viper Club of America sent you.

Cheers

spddmnjay

01-12-2008, 04:52 PM

2000 miles and a lil change...damn that thing was somebodies garage queen!!!

I bought it from the original owner who just happened to be filthy rich. He owned a Mercedes Benz dealership and had something like 12 other exotic cars in his collection. Basically he never drove the Viper and decided to make room for another exotic.

BulldawgMusclecars

01-13-2008, 06:30 PM

I'm working with Joseph Dell, Viper expert, because he used to run a Paxton in his Viper. His Viper was putting out 965 HP at the rear wheels. So guess what HP/TQ numbers I am aiming for...you guessed it around 950 HP/TQ at the rear. Should make for one fast ride.

Today Joseph is running twin turbos with approximately 1600 HP/TQ. Now that is unbelievable!!

Joseph's a nice guy; I first met him about 10 years ago, when he was still into Mustangs. Last time I saw him was at Dynolab in Marietta GA...he had just broken his Viper's rear on the dyno, and I helped him push it up on the trailer ! Unreal car, and its much more powerful now than it was then...I take it he probably has a solid axle in there now (Dana 60 maybe?)?

spddmnjay

01-13-2008, 08:38 PM

Joseph's a nice guy; I first met him about 10 years ago, when he was still into Mustangs. Last time I saw him was at Dynolab in Marietta GA...he had just broken his Viper's rear on the dyno, and I helped him push it up on the trailer ! Unreal car, and its much more powerful now than it was then...I take it he probably has a solid axle in there now (Dana 60 maybe?)?

Yeah, JD is a great guy :) He is in the process of installing twin turbos onto his Viper. I understand that it will put out insane HP/TQ when he is finished so I suspect it will need a really beefy rear end. :jawdrop:

spddmnjay

01-13-2008, 08:39 PM

Heat barrier installed on the transmission tunnel.

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WS6

01-14-2008, 04:18 PM

Jay, are you sure the heat shielding will stay stuck once some heat gets into it? I'd hate for it to start peeling off because it's too close on the outside of that tunnel.

spddmnjay

01-14-2008, 07:42 PM

Jay, are you sure the heat shielding will stay stuck once some heat gets into it? I'd hate for it to start peeling off because it's too close on the outside of that tunnel.

No worries there my friend. I know the Hansen Brothers would have used foil :rotfl: but I chose Thermo Tec Heat Barrier that can withstand continues 400 degree F. The adhesive backing sticks like @#$ to a blanket. :hah: No chance of that stuff peeling off.

Smock67

01-15-2008, 04:48 AM

Damn its looking great Jay. Keep it up

spddmnjay

01-15-2008, 08:20 AM

More progress on engine renderings.

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Crafty One

01-15-2008, 08:37 AM

Top notch....

On the renderings..... Is your guy actually pulling measurments from each individual part or has he got a spec sheet from dodge?

spddmnjay

01-15-2008, 09:56 AM

Top notch....

On the renderings..... Is your guy actually pulling measurments from each individual part or has he got a spec sheet from dodge?

I have a provided Tom with a set of drawings and specifications for the engine, transmission and chassis. The drawings are extremely accurate and provide the detail necessary to generate top notch renderings. :hail:

If Tom requires a dimension that he does not have, I simply go out to the car and measure it myself.

I have also provided Tom with hundreds of pictures to aid him with the rendering process.

Hope this helps!
Cheers
Jason

got_hp?

01-16-2008, 08:29 AM

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Crafty One

01-16-2008, 08:32 AM

I have a provided Tom with a set of drawings and specifications for the engine, transmission and chassis. The drawings are extremely accurate and provide the detail necessary to generate top notch renderings. :hail:

If Tom requires a dimension that he does not have, I simply go out to the car and measure it myself.

I have also provided Tom with hundreds of pictures to aid him with the rendering process.

Hope this helps!
Cheers
Jason

That's pretty damn cool there.... I was just being curious

Ryan

preston

01-16-2008, 08:43 AM

If you could post a picture of the back side of those emergency brake calipers I sure would appreciate it.

spddmnjay

02-04-2008, 10:05 AM

Just wanted to update the members on progress. I have been sick for the past couple of weeks and therefore haven't done much of anything. :sick: But I've still done some stuff. :idea:

I just purchased the speakers, sub and amplifier. I will be fabricating a custom sub enclosure to fit in the rear of the Viper. I'll post pics as soon as I start work on the system.

got_hp?

02-04-2008, 04:10 PM

i was wondering what happened to ya........haha you update so often its almost become a weekly habit to check your thread.

spddmnjay

02-06-2008, 12:38 PM

i was wondering what happened to ya........haha you update so often its almost become a weekly habit to check your thread.

It is my full intent to keep updating this thread on a weekly basis. I will hopefully dig up some stuff for ya here in the next few days.

Cheers
Jason

spddmnjay

02-06-2008, 08:51 PM

The door hinges have a flexible tensile piece of steel that the door hinge acts against to provide tension when the door is open. Over time the original grease dries out.

If the grease has dried out, you'll hear a 'pop' noise when opening the door. This is a tell tale sign that new grease is required.

If new grease is not applied it is very possible and likely that the flexible piece of steel will break . If it does break the only fix is to purchase a complete new hinge...and that isn't cheap.

Needless to say I took the opportunity to apply new grease because my hinges were drier than a beer-fart-in-the-desert. :twothumbs

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02-06-2008, 08:59 PM

Pic of the Energy sub woofer, Energy speakers, MTX amplifier and Stinger wires for the stereo system.

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02-06-2008, 09:11 PM

This is my starting point to design a custom sub woofer enclosure. Ahhhhh...gotta love duct tape.

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02-14-2008, 09:03 AM

Rendering images to show the starting points for the hood.

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Smock67

02-14-2008, 03:16 PM

damn that looks pretty ballin jay. keep it up

spddmnjay

02-15-2008, 10:39 AM

damn that looks pretty ballin jay. keep it up

:headbang:

spddmnjay

03-18-2008, 08:27 AM

NO MORE 3D COMPUTER RENDERINGS :confused:

I just got word that the fella I hired to create all the awesome 3D computer renderings no longer has time to do them for me. Apparently he is too busy at his day job and unable to continue my project.

scogin918

03-18-2008, 12:33 PM

Don't worry. As outstanding as they were, the real pics of your project are equally as impressive. Keep up the good work!:twothumbs

spddmnjay

03-19-2008, 12:47 PM

Don't worry. As outstanding as they were, the real pics of your project are equally as impressive. Keep up the good work!:twothumbs

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bwhinnen

03-26-2008, 02:31 PM

It is a shame about the 3D renderings they really looked cool, however I have to agree with Robert above, the pics of the progress are far better :)

got_hp?

03-26-2008, 03:11 PM

It is a shame about the 3D renderings they really looked cool, however I have to agree with Robert above, the pics of the progress are far better :)

ditto! keep us updated with the real pics!

spddmnjay

04-25-2008, 12:00 PM

In these pictures I have removed most of the orginal paint in and around the engine bay area. I wasn't happy with the OEM finish because of how much weld spatter was on the frame.

I used some good ol' aluminum foil to wrap pieces that I didn't want painted. This is the easiest and quickest way to cover parts that you don't want painted.

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04-25-2008, 12:05 PM

Primer has been applied.

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preston

04-25-2008, 01:22 PM

Okay dude now you are just losing it.

I would suggest custom building your own Viper frame from flat sheet as at this point who knows what cosmetic flaws are hidden in the stock frame ?

spddmnjay

04-25-2008, 06:31 PM

Okay dude now you are just losing it.

I would suggest custom building your own Viper frame from flat sheet as at this point who knows what cosmetic flaws are hidden in the stock frame ?

Hmmmmm....I never thought about painting inside the frame members. I think you are on to something. :idea:

WS6

04-25-2008, 07:17 PM

spddmnjay

04-26-2008, 06:56 PM

Top coat has been applied. I used rocker panel coating that will provide a very durable finish. I am very happy with the finished product!!

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spddmnjay

04-26-2008, 07:02 PM

haha that's awesome Jay. So did you intend to go this far or are you just looking for things to do while you wait for the engine to be built? Looking great as always. The AL foil trick works great. I use it all the time at the shop.

The foil is one of the best tricks in the book.

The reason I haven't made much progress on my Viper is because I've spent most of my time putting together a deal to purchase a super car!!! I've spent a great deal of time dreaming and planning this 'other' project!

As soon as I complete the purchase of this super car, I will let all of ya know what it is. Plus I will be modifying it. :naughty: Stay tuned. :smoke:

spddmnjay

04-26-2008, 07:22 PM

Some people have asked me, "Why would you repaint a frame that has no damage or wear?" My answer is simple, I am a perfectionist and love the details. I really enjoy trying to make something better.

Another perfectionist is a guy called Shadowman. He is the owner of Discovery Automotive and takes pride in his work. I am absolutely blown away by the care he takes with all his customers cars when they are in his shop. If you want to see a bunch of cool pictures I highly recommend viewing his "Current Projects" on his website http://www.discovery-automotive.com/portal/

Any way, I am doing exactly what Shadowman is doing, modifying an all ready high performance sports car to the extreme! Yeeeehhhhhhaaaaaaaa :headbang:

Hope all enjoy the build :cheers:

KwikGT

04-28-2008, 08:38 PM

spddmnjay

05-01-2008, 05:27 AM

A supercar??? I thought you were building a supercar!!! Please tells us you will finish the Viper!! ...and the least you could do is spill the beans damn it! Ha! Ha!

By the way, thank god for perfectionists!! I love buying cars from guys like you! So, you keep sanding and painting Jay!! Let me know if you ever want to sell the Viper. :)

I bet it's a Ford GT!!!

I will definitely be completing the Viper...and keeping it. And Yes, it is a Ford GT! :jump: I can't wait to drive it 200mph! :6gears:

I'll post pics as soon as I pick it up and complete the transaction. :kewlpics: to come