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Steve1968LS2
10-08-2007, 07:35 PM
Are those the "Sport" model seats?

John

Why yes they are :)

Mean 69
10-08-2007, 08:21 PM
That has to be one of my all time favorite undercarriage photos. Of course, I'm a little biased, but oooh-la-la!!!! Tight, clean, tidy, sweet.

M

eville
10-08-2007, 08:37 PM
Very clean. Love the exhaust coating! Are you running 3" the whole way or 2.5" tails?

hotrdblder
10-09-2007, 05:47 AM
looks great steve, but not mandrel bent exhaust?

01somta
10-09-2007, 06:04 AM
undercarriage looks beautiful, what was used as your undercarriage coating(s).

Steve1968LS2
10-09-2007, 06:22 AM
looks great steve, but not mandrel bent exhaust?

Mendrel Smendrel.. lol

Not many shops around here can do it, it's crazy expensive and the performance gain is very little. It' looks better but this looks just fine.

The shop that built it did a great job tucking it up tight and making it fit well.

Steve1968LS2
10-09-2007, 06:24 AM
undercarriage looks beautiful, what was used as your undercarriage coating(s).

Lord Fusor for the undercoat. It's a lightweight/rubbery coating. Maybe added 4 lbs to the car. Requires a special gun to shoot it.

The exhaust is thermal coated in what my shop calls "titanium". The rest is just powder painted.

Moose
10-09-2007, 06:24 AM
I think thats the first time I've seen a x-pipe on a 1st gen. Very nice as love the coating.

tires look awesome in that pic..

Steve1968LS2
10-09-2007, 06:34 AM
Oh, btw... notice the bung just behind the passengers side headers. I had that put there for the chassis dyno guy.

This way he doesn't have to disconnect my O2 sensors to install his for tuning. I highly reccomend this to anyone with an EFI system. Makes life a lot easier.

The 3-inch X-pipe is from Magnaflow.

hotrdblder
10-09-2007, 07:02 AM
oh, yeah there are no mandrel benders here either, i have to miter cut and fab pre bent mandrel pieces.
looks great, can't wait to see it.

Steve1968LS2
10-09-2007, 07:07 AM
oh, yeah there are no mandrel benders here either, i have to miter cut and fab pre bent mandrel pieces.
looks great, can't wait to see it.

Yea, even Magnaflow miter-cut the exhaust on the Fairlane and pieced it together. The problem is that the equipment to do 3-inch pipe is crazy expensive.

hotrdblder
10-09-2007, 07:43 AM
equipment to bend or miter cut?
man you must be excited about your car, it looks great, and your tires make me feel funny,lol:naughty:

Damn True
10-09-2007, 07:46 AM
How do those Magnaflows sound? Quiet at idle and cruise?

Steve1968LS2
10-09-2007, 08:17 AM
How do those Magnaflows sound? Quiet at idle and cruise?

Fairly mellow at idle and cruise.. loud at WOT.

Once the car gets on the road I will get some video with sound.

Damn True
10-09-2007, 08:33 AM
In the interest of neihborly/spousal harmony I need/want an exhaust that is pretty darn quiet at idle cruise. I don't mind a howl that suggests the hounds of hell at WOT, but it needs to be pretty mellow under normal circumstances.

BonzoHansen
10-09-2007, 09:24 AM
Dammit Steve, that is a thing of beauty. I love the all business look.

curly
10-09-2007, 04:46 PM
The Magnaflow catback that I have on my '95 T/A (cammed, !CAT, Jethot LT's) is mellow at idle and pretty loud WOT. The best thing is that I got rid of the interior 'drone' I had with my old Flowmaster setup I had.

Steve.... your car is looking hotter all the time!

restomodbird69
10-09-2007, 06:37 PM
what kind of tires are on the rear.they look cool.

Steve1968LS2
10-10-2007, 06:00 AM
what kind of tires are on the rear.they look cool.

Toyo R888 R-compound competition tires.. :yum:

Rybar
10-10-2007, 07:36 AM
Steve, the car is looking SICK!! Love that undercarraige shot and the rear tires/suspension is just a work of art!

I too was wondering why you didn't mandrel bend the exhast system but do understand that most shops can't mandrel bend 3".

Great job bud! Looks freaking amazing!


In the interest of neihborly/spousal harmony I need/want an exhaust that is pretty darn quiet at idle cruise. I don't mind a howl that suggests the hounds of hell at WOT, but it needs to be pretty mellow under normal circumstances.

You will achieve that with Magnaflow and an x-pipe. However 3" pipe will be louder than 2.5"

GBodyGMachine
10-10-2007, 07:58 AM
Hey steve. Car is looking better everytime I see pics.

PS. You spelled my name wrong in PHR. AGH
Thanks again.

Jeff

Steve1968LS2
10-10-2007, 08:20 AM
You will achieve that with Magnaflow and an x-pipe. However 3" pipe will be louder than 2.5"

The other key to low noise/resonance is how thick the material is. In many cases the stainless tubing is pretty thin and this passes through a lot of noise and resonance. That is why we went with a coated steel. It was cheaper and very heavy gauge.

Steve1968LS2
10-10-2007, 08:21 AM
Hey steve. Car is looking better everytime I see pics.

PS. You spelled my name wrong in PHR. AGH
Thanks again.

Jeff

dammit! You sure you didn't sent it to me mispelled?? ;)

Sorry man, but nice car!

GBodyGMachine
10-10-2007, 12:30 PM
dammit! You sure you didn't sent it to me mispelled?? ;)

Sorry man, but nice car!

Yea, I cans speel my name sumtimes.

Jeff Shortt

Piet
10-10-2007, 12:42 PM
Jeff Shortt

Jett Shorff?

Steve1968LS2
10-10-2007, 01:40 PM
Jett Shorff?

Ok, so to be clear it's Jiff Shoorf... right?

thedugan
10-10-2007, 05:57 PM
I see you have a BG fuel cooler mounted under the rockers. I was going to put mine in the same spot.

Is that were you plan to keep it?

Does it hang low and stick out to much?

GBodyGMachine
10-12-2007, 12:12 PM
Ok Ok, thats enough you guys.

Jeff Dhortt

Steve1968LS2
10-12-2007, 02:58 PM
I see you have a BG fuel cooler mounted under the rockers. I was going to put mine in the same spot.

Is that were you plan to keep it?

Does it hang low and stick out to much?

You can barely see it from the side of the car, fits perfect there.

Steve1968LS2
10-12-2007, 02:59 PM
Ok Ok, thats enough you guys.

Jeff Dhortt


:rotfl:

Steve1968LS2
10-12-2007, 02:59 PM
The repairs to Penny are done! :woot:

After 5 months and $35,000 the Camaro is officially out of paint jail. The crew at BOS did an amazing job on her and she's better than before the accident. Since she's SEMA bound they spent over 60 hrs color sanding and buffing the paint and trust me that the pics don't do the color or the finish justice.

I really want to thank Best Of Show for fixing my car so well and for dealing with the insurance company to make sure it got fixed right.

All I need to do is finish the interior, get an alignment and add on the ATS carbon fiber spoiler.

Here she is.. Bad Penney Version 1.2

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

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6'9"Witha69
10-12-2007, 03:03 PM
Chills.

Car looks mean. I am in love!!

69TAPoser
10-12-2007, 03:05 PM
Unbelievable. :worship:

Phil

70TWO NOVA
10-12-2007, 03:07 PM
WOW Steve, she is looking stunning! I just had to use the rear 3/4 shot as my computer background here at work!

Smock67
10-12-2007, 03:46 PM
Well i just got my new background as well. I'm in awe

hotrdblder
10-12-2007, 03:59 PM
fricken killer steve

trapin
10-12-2007, 04:20 PM
Those tires are incredible. 35K? Yikes!!!

Did this guy's insurance company drop him? LOL!!!

BonzoHansen
10-12-2007, 04:22 PM
Nice. Whose frame is that? All I see are alignment eccentrics. LOL

TonyL
10-12-2007, 04:24 PM
Looks great Steve. I hope you actually get to enjoy it this time around. Way to keep the faith man.

TonyL
10-12-2007, 04:24 PM
All I see are alighment eccentrics. LOL

or the passenger side mirror.

TonyL
10-12-2007, 04:28 PM
or you can just see *THIS*
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

Steve1968LS2
10-12-2007, 04:32 PM
or you can just see *THIS*


That's Chris.. He's sort of a "big deal" around the shop. It's like a where's Waldo picture.


Nice. Whose frame is that? All I see are alighment eccentrics. LOL

21st Century Street Machines. C5 based. The best part is that it's designed to retain the factory eccentric bolts.


Looks great Steve. I hope you actually get to enjoy it this time around. Way to keep the faith man.

The only thing permanent is death.. the rest can be worked around. lol

Mr.VENGEANCE
10-12-2007, 05:07 PM
JEBUS~!~~~!!

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

that settles it.. im getting a set of those Toyo R888s!!!!!!

Joey_H
10-12-2007, 05:46 PM
Man! I can hardly wait to scope out Penny at SEMA! :1st:

Chevrolaine
10-12-2007, 05:58 PM
Excuse me while I go change my shorts! :jawdrop:

Gordz32
10-12-2007, 05:58 PM
Gotta love my peeka boo action. I got locked out and I decided I would get in on the action. The car came out out great and I can personally tell u that theres lots of hours in it! It was a pleasure to work on a car of this caliber. Steve for got to mention the Ginenormo burnout he did as he left on the fairlane today!

BonzoHansen
10-12-2007, 06:13 PM
Rory Gallagher - Bad Penny (http://youtube.com/watch?v=oSsPOiUUTTw)
Your car has a theme song. LOL I tripped on this by accident tonight chasing links in YouTube. RG was a great guitar player.

slenning
10-12-2007, 06:16 PM
I got a bad case of tire envy!! Man that looks great Steve. Can't wait to see it at Sema.

eville
10-12-2007, 07:15 PM
Wow! I want to see this car in person.

rockdogz
10-12-2007, 07:28 PM
:hail:

Steve1968LS2
10-13-2007, 06:03 PM
We fixed the gas tank today.. no help from Fuel Safe who charged me $58 to overnight insuficiant parts to make the repair.

Still have an elec gremlin in the brake lights, but the car runs great. Tomorrow she heads to the interior shop. By the way, this is the how the car sits (ride heigth).

The BOS crew got her all loaded on the trailer tonight. :woot:

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

Steve1968LS2
10-13-2007, 06:13 PM
Just of bonus shot of the car getting the "pre SEMA thrash" today.

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72Z/28
10-13-2007, 06:26 PM
Looks amazing..:headbang:

Rolling_Thunder
10-13-2007, 07:17 PM
Killer Car Steve - Look forward to seeing it in person

Motown 454
10-13-2007, 07:21 PM
One word WOW!

Mr.VENGEANCE
10-13-2007, 11:00 PM
i think i gotta crank dat robocop to this one..

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dodge
10-14-2007, 11:46 PM
Holy crap...that looks killer..well done to ALL who played a part in rebuilding this car.

cheers Joe

.:run4fun:.
10-15-2007, 03:37 AM
OMG!!!
Nice car!

bingham72
10-15-2007, 05:18 AM
DUH -- AAMMMMMMmmmmmmmm.
so sweet.

curly
10-15-2007, 08:34 AM
I think that car gets 'sexier' every time I see it and I'd swear the paint seems to get 'deeper'.

Steve.... take some good shots of it, I need a new background :worship: .

NRV051
10-15-2007, 12:56 PM
man I love this car.

Young Gun
10-15-2007, 01:38 PM
I have thought very seriously about this and I have decided...

I will sell you my soul for this car...

deal?

formula98
10-15-2007, 08:45 PM
Great work Steve. I hope to see her at Sema.

MrQuick
10-15-2007, 10:20 PM
looking bad ass steve.... hope you enjoy this one a little before you sell it.

Mr.VENGEANCE
10-15-2007, 10:51 PM
hope you enjoy this one a little before you sell it.

ooooooh......

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2007/10/hsughowned-1.gif

i dunno how you could possibly part with that!

MrQuick
10-15-2007, 10:59 PM
I don't know.....SEMA does funny stuff to people. I hope he makes at least one track day.

Steve1968LS2
10-16-2007, 05:59 AM
I don't know.....SEMA does funny stuff to people. I hope he makes at least one track day.

Someone asked me that.. "Would you sell it?" and I said "no, I have too much work in it and I couldn't afford to build a nicer car"

Then they said, "what if someone at SEMA offers you $120k or some other stupid amount?"

I honestly don't know, I love the car and I'm dying to drive it but it would hard to turn down tens of thousands of dollars of pure profit. To be honest I hope I don't get any real offers at SEMA and I can drive the car. My wife told me not to sell it or I'm in trouble. lol

jy211
10-16-2007, 06:32 AM
a large enough check will make her forget the "trouble''...:pat:


Looks great! :naughty:

MrQuick
10-16-2007, 06:54 PM
I'd love to see you get that $125k offer. Would make it easier to find a nice Cuda or something.


Another bad ass build by Steve. Man, I still remember the Yellow one.
You should start a shop and design stuff.

protour73
10-17-2007, 06:51 AM
Steve, Penny is a pure work of automobile art and engineering. All well thought out and executed.

My '73 progress pics are posted on another thread and I aspire to build a car that even scratches the surface of your build!!!

You should be very proud, don't sell the car......enjoy it for a while!!!!

Scott:hail:

skinnyboy67
10-17-2007, 03:29 PM
Take the money.. buy the wife somthin shiny for her silence and patience for the next project build.
I think we all do what we do for the love of building it ourselves so why not do it again???

70TWO NOVA
10-17-2007, 03:31 PM
Take the money.. buy the wife somthin shiny for her silence and patience for the next project build.
I think we all do what we do for the love of building it ourselves so why not do it again???
I Agree!

eville
10-17-2007, 03:38 PM
Keep it... at least until I have a chance to see it in person!

Damn True
10-17-2007, 03:41 PM
After all the trials and tribulations of building that car I could not let it go without first driving the pi$$ out of it at every auto-x and track event I was able to get to.

Just my $0.02 but I am building mine so I can drive it, not so I can start again on building another.

67camaro*z
10-17-2007, 07:34 PM
Hey Steve, What are the dimensions of the fuel cell? Thanks!

skatinjay27
10-17-2007, 07:41 PM
it will be like your blue one then. sold it before you could trully enjoy it.

Steve1968LS2
10-17-2007, 08:06 PM
it will be like your blue one then. sold it before you could trully enjoy it.

No, I would have far more green in my pocket. lol


Hey, I don't plan on selling the car. I have zero plans to put it "for sale"... I have all sorts of plans to drive the hell out of it.

But...

In the end it's a car and if an amount was offered that was a "one time" deal then I would be foolish to dismiss it. I have a family and a mortgage.

I really don't forsee selling the car. I sold the blue car because it wasn't what I wanted, Penny is exactly what I want.

So lets all think happy thoughts of apexs and off track excursions (resulting in no damage of course ;) )

Steve1968LS2
10-17-2007, 08:07 PM
Hey Steve, What are the dimensions of the fuel cell? Thanks!

I will get that for you.. It's an 18 gallon Sportsman cell. I would have gone 22gal but my rear frame rails are narrowed.

Steve1968LS2
10-17-2007, 08:08 PM
I am building mine so I can drive it, not so I can start again on building another.

Same here, I'm tired of building, ready to drive.


But, if someone offered you enough you would sell, and you know it. ;)

Steve1968LS2
10-18-2007, 06:04 PM
In other news I guess I'm commited to having my car in Wilwood's booth!

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I didn't know they were doing this until this flyer show up at work. The pressure!!! :willy:

Eric Thornson (does all the interiors for Steve Strope) has been busy on my interior. I wanted something that looked simple and OEM.

He is doing the carpet in a "small loop" that just a tighter version of the factory carpet and the door panels are in a black leather that has a grain pattern to match the dash pad. The main reason was to delete the arm rest areas since my door bars are my arm rests. He is also covering some of the cage bars in the same leather.

Here's the door panel he fabbed out of aluminum. He likes it better than cardboad since it keeps his shape and wont tear if removed. He should be done by this Saturday.

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Rolling_Thunder
10-18-2007, 07:55 PM
:bananna2:

steemin
10-19-2007, 06:41 AM
I agree with you Steve.
It is just a car (albiet a VERY nice car).
However, if someone wants to step up with the right number it would be IMHO foolish to pass on a great offer..
And to be honest your car is hot right now. You will more than likely have people breathing down your neck at SEMA.
Obviously it is best to sell when the car is at its peak in terms of exposure and interest.
The hot rod car industry reminds my of my single days.
The fun was in the chase. Once you are successfull in reaching your "goal". You start wanting to go onto the next dream.
Please do not interpret this to mean that I don't LOVE driving my cars because I do. But I like the adventure as well.
Scott

GT500KR_Vert
10-19-2007, 06:49 AM
make sure he sticks some Dynomat on the back of that panel or the rattle is going to drive you nuts!


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Steve1968LS2
10-19-2007, 07:13 AM
make sure he sticks some Dynomat on the back of that panel or the rattle is going to drive you nuts!


Yea, he knows. The leather deadens it as well.

jknight16
10-19-2007, 07:23 AM
Hmmmm....those door panels have my mental wheels turning now...that might be something for this fool to venture into trying. By the third try I might just get it close to right :pat:

Steve1968LS2
10-20-2007, 06:19 PM
The interior is almost done.. Eric Thornson did the carpet, the back seat blockoff and he covered many of the cage bars in leather.

I also installed the G2X Rackpak GPS track computer. It's coming along nicely. All he has to do now if finish the door panels. They will have an OEM retro look. He does very good work, in fact the other car he's working on for SEMA is Steve Strope's Torino.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

Here are the panels. They will incorporate the factory CAMARO emblem and won't have arm rests due to my door bar. There will be a pull tap to close the door (you can see it in the first picture).

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Mr.VENGEANCE
10-20-2007, 06:57 PM
man that interior is serious lookin.. i like the door leaches..

Code Red
10-20-2007, 07:07 PM
I think I just creamed my keyboard

monza
10-20-2007, 09:45 PM
I think the right "sold" number would be more like 200G, then your about at the same cost Dale Jr. had to pay at DSE for his ride. At that price, you could sell it and be happy. Anything less your selling it short. If you don't get that... drive it! It is really one of the nicest examples of a PT car out there, you had better drive it no matter what, sale or no sale.
Looking forward to seeing it in SEMA.

Gordz32
10-20-2007, 10:44 PM
SWEEETT!!!!:yum:

Hidro
10-21-2007, 01:02 AM
Nice Work!

Interior looking great... more pics!!! :)

Steve1968LS2
10-21-2007, 07:21 AM
Nice Work!

Interior looking great... more pics!!! :)

Here's one before the seats, still covering the roll cage. The carpet is like the OEM stuff but with a tighter look. He edged it all in a cloth binding (Mercedes??). I highly reccomend him if anyone needs interior work, he's in Agoura Hills, CA.

72Z/28
10-21-2007, 07:33 AM
Looks nice Steve, would you mind if I ask what all these bottons are for?

Steve1968LS2
10-21-2007, 07:55 AM
Looks nice Steve, would you mind if I ask what all these bottons are for?

In the center of the dash?

That panel is a remnant from when the Camaro was a Sportsman class drag car. Back then (1995/96) it ran 9 sec quarter mile times on nitrous.

The panels control all the electrical functions: lights, ignition, fuel pump, cooling system, etc. - There is no ignition key.

There are three buttons for Nitrous, I guess I should add a system so as not to be a poser. lol

Steve1968LS2
10-23-2007, 12:57 PM
She is officially back on the road. I drove her about 20 miles from the interior guy to Wilwood where they are going to fine-tune my brakes. About the only "road issue" I had were a few small rattles and such that I need to track down.

Here she is at Wilwood, damn they have a NICE shop!

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syborg tt
10-23-2007, 01:03 PM
Man I want one of those Wilwood Banners

ps - the car looks great.

70TWO NOVA
10-23-2007, 01:05 PM
Getting "pampered" before the big show....must be nice. Penny's worth it though!

Steve1968LS2
10-23-2007, 01:28 PM
Man I want one of those Wilwood Banners

ps - the car looks great.

Soon I should have the high-res file hosted online of the Wilwood banner that has Penny on it.

Then you can have a banner made.

Mr.VENGEANCE
10-23-2007, 01:53 PM
thats awesome..

does it ride like it did before it was hit?

Steve1968LS2
10-23-2007, 02:50 PM
thats awesome..

does it ride like it did before it was hit?

I can't tell it was ever hit. The shop spent $2500 putting it on a computer rack that pulled all the panels to '68 Camaro factory specs. Was pretty cool to see done.

Still needs a GOOD alignment, will see how time goes.

Gordz32
10-23-2007, 04:45 PM
Steve.. Any Shots of the Door Panels?

ponjohn
10-23-2007, 04:56 PM
What is the controller behind the shifter (g2x?)

John

Steve1968LS2
10-23-2007, 05:01 PM
Steve.. Any Shots of the Door Panels?

No, I was so excited to drive the car and then I got caught up in BS'ing with the Wilwood guys.

I forgot :(

I will grab some on Thursday when you come to get the car. ;)

Steve1968LS2
10-23-2007, 05:02 PM
What is the controller behind the shifter (g2x?)

John

It's a Racepak GPS track computer.. pretty cool little toy.

Gordz32
10-23-2007, 05:30 PM
Oh REALLY!! AHAHAHA Is it coming back down here?

Steve1968LS2
10-23-2007, 06:15 PM
Oh REALLY!! AHAHAHA Is it coming back down here?

If you haven't burned down.. that's the tentative plan. It got a little muck on it at the interior shop and could use a pre-SEMA buff.

I also need to fab up my fire extinguisher bracket. Little stuff.

syborg tt
10-23-2007, 06:42 PM
Soon I should have the high-res file hosted online of the Wilwood banner that has Penny on it.

Then you can have a banner made.

that would be cool - can't wait

Smock67
10-23-2007, 07:52 PM
wow that looks stunning

dafabricata
10-23-2007, 08:00 PM
NICE SHOTS!! That car is perfect!!!!

Drive the hell outta it!..........those wheels looks so BAD-ASS!!!

novanutcase
10-23-2007, 08:17 PM
The Phoenix has risen from the ashes!

Looks great Steve!

John

69camarokid
10-25-2007, 02:50 PM
this car is rediculous.... ill trade u my 69 for it.... hahahha

Steve1968LS2
10-25-2007, 05:45 PM
Here's the done door panel.. very simple and, I think, clean design.

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Part Time
10-25-2007, 07:17 PM
Once again....out side of the box. Won't need arm rests in Penny anyway. Nice!

Steve1968LS2
10-25-2007, 07:44 PM
Once again....out side of the box. Won't need arm rests in Penny anyway. Nice!

well, the door bar makes a perfect arm rest :)

I really like the simple pull tabs, one of my better ideas and Eric nailed what I wanted for the interior, an updated OEM look using better materials. He even incorporated the CAMARO emblems.

Smock67
10-26-2007, 04:42 AM
wow that looks so clean and simple. Steve you have me torn for the extremely clean and simple look and going a little crazy on the interior. ARGGGGGGGGH

69Nova
10-26-2007, 05:40 AM
Looks great Steve. The leather around the cage, does it come off with velcro or does it not come off?

As usual "You da man"

Steve1968LS2
10-26-2007, 06:23 AM
Looks great Steve. The leather around the cage, does it come off with velcro or does it not come off?


Nope, it's permanently attached to the bars.

Rubes
10-26-2007, 09:21 AM
Darn...your picture hosting site is blocked by my corporate firewall. Congratulations on gettin' 'er done... again, Steve and BOS. I fully expect to see her at RTH4!!!

protour73
10-26-2007, 01:58 PM
Darn...your picture hosting site is blocked by my corporate firewall. Congratulations on gettin' 'er done... again, Steve and BOS. I fully expect to see her at RTH4!!!

what's RTH4???

Steve....where is BOS located?

vp23271
10-26-2007, 04:03 PM
The door panels reminded me of the 1970's style Porsche RS race door panels.

Simple and clean with that Chevy Camaro twist. They look great!

Steve1968LS2
10-26-2007, 04:22 PM
what's RTH4???

Steve....where is BOS located?

It's an event held back east. Look in the event section.

BOS is in San Marcos, CA

www.bestofshowcoachworks.com (http://www.bestofshowcoachworks.com)

BonzoHansen
10-26-2007, 09:30 PM
what's RTH4???

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif4

LOL, it is in Tennesse. Pigeon Forge. It is on my list of must-go-to-soon events.

https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=70

Young Gun
10-27-2007, 06:42 AM
so steve...now that you have perfected penny, what are the plans for the next car? are you gonna make the fairlane all pro touring after you get her running 11's? I would love to see a protouring fairlane :cheers:

Young Gun
10-29-2007, 02:40 PM
I removed that psyco's comment.

-mod.

Young Gun
10-29-2007, 03:54 PM
ahhh no crazy comments...serenity hahah

Steve1968LS2
10-29-2007, 05:28 PM
Ahh.. dammit.. I didn't get to see the psycho's comments!!!

It's not everyday that I get a deranged psycho stalking me!!

Young Gun
10-29-2007, 06:08 PM
Ahh.. dammit.. I didn't get to see the psycho's comments!!!

It's not everyday that I get a deranged psycho stalking me!!

I always consider it a compliment when somebody stalks me!:evil:

sunkistcamaro
10-29-2007, 07:21 PM
It was stuipid, just like the rest of his posts.
I think you have built one hell of a car!

67camaro*z
10-30-2007, 11:38 PM
hey hows it going. Did you ever get around to measuring that new fuel cell? Penny is Damn sexy...I need to get to work!

Smock67
10-31-2007, 04:38 AM
Steve im gonna need you to get some desktop quality pictures, the one i have of penny right now has your lanyard hanging from the trunk, and while she has a nice ass a shot of the front would be great.

formula98
10-31-2007, 02:24 PM
Penny is beautiful! I looked and looked and then looked some more at her in the Wilwood booth yesterday. Such a nice car to see in person. great work Steve and BOS really nice work.

novanutcase
11-01-2007, 01:10 PM
Steve,

Great meeting you at SEMA! Penny is UNBELIEVABLE! Guys if you ever get a chance to see her in person DO IT! Pictures just don't do her justice!

John

streetrod77
11-01-2007, 02:38 PM
Attention to detail on this car is like some of the high end builders. Impressive

pumpgasdrags
11-01-2007, 03:09 PM
Ok, I'm sure I missed it somewhere but read that you were going with a different tire size from the 335/30/18, so what was the final size you finally went with?

Steve1968LS2
11-03-2007, 08:26 AM
Steve,

Great meeting you at SEMA! Penny is UNBELIEVABLE! Guys if you ever get a chance to see her in person DO IT! Pictures just don't do her justice!

John

Hey John, nice to meet you as well. SEMA is so nuts for me with work and walking. Sorry I couldn't hang out longer. It's all a blur. lol

I'm very happy with how she came out. I think I'm going to make a sticker for the window that has the paint code since I was asked that question about eleven million times. lol


Ok, I'm sure I missed it somewhere but read that you were going with a different tire size from the 335/30/18, so what was the final size you finally went with?

No, I'm running 335/30/18s in the back.

In the front I went with 255s instead of 275s since they were almost as wide as my old 275 RA1 tires.

Young Gun
11-04-2007, 09:02 AM
I doubt im the only one that would be interested, but if you get time could you make a thread of the progress of penny from the very beginning when you got her to where she is now...i was searching for one and saw a bunch of smaller threads with the progress...I think it would be something really cool to see where the car came from to develop into the sema car that it is...as usual...she looks great!

skatinjay27
11-04-2007, 01:01 PM
steve where is you turn signal switch? if i remeber correctly from sunday at tylers the colum was bare.

Steve1968LS2
11-04-2007, 02:36 PM
steve where is you turn signal switch? if i remeber correctly from sunday at tylers the colum was bare.

Not installed yet, I need a couple no-load flashers.. But, it will be operated off a toggle switch on the dash. The horn is a red button on the dash.

TheRoadVirus
11-20-2007, 07:57 AM
Just out of curiousity, with no key being used don't you worry about her? I guess you don't leave it anywhere you would, though?

Steve1968LS2
11-20-2007, 08:24 AM
Just out of curiousity, with no key being used don't you worry about her? I guess you don't leave it anywhere you would, though?

Well, there are still keys to lock the doors and since there arn't any door lock pulls you can't just smash the window and unlock the doors.

I doubt an ignition key switch slows down most good thieves. Plus I have a kill switch and specific way the switches have to go for the car to start. Plus I can take the steering wheel. lol

But you're right. It's not like I'm going to park the car at the mall for 6 hours or overnight in a bad area.

go-fish
11-20-2007, 02:20 PM
But you're right. It's not like I'm going to park the car at the mall for 6 hours or overnight in a bad area.


So you're not takin it to do your Christmas shopping at the mall?

I have really enjoyed watching the build, and rebuild of your beloved car. It has provided alot of insight to many folks. Keep it coming.

Rolling_Thunder
11-20-2007, 03:36 PM
ya Steve how bout them turn signals ???

Steve1968LS2
11-20-2007, 03:40 PM
So you're not takin it to do your Christmas shopping at the mall?

I have really enjoyed watching the build, and rebuild of your beloved car. It has provided alot of insight to many folks. Keep it coming.

Yea, I doubt I will park it at the airport for a week either.. lol

Here are a few random shots to finish out this thread.. well, until I do a few more modifications.

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Jimmy Sean
11-20-2007, 03:53 PM
Steve one suggestion, It's time to update your sig.:spank2:

SatisTraction
11-20-2007, 04:02 PM
Hey steve

where did you get the billet shifter trim? that looks nice.

Mr.VENGEANCE
11-20-2007, 04:02 PM
Bad Penny aka Evil Abraham.

Steve1968LS2
11-20-2007, 04:05 PM
Bad Penny aka Evil Abraham.

Hey... I like that.. would be a funny name for my next project. Sort of a inside joke.


Steve one suggestion, It's time to update your sig.:spank2:

Hell, I can barely keep up with my PMs, Emails and other junk! ;)


Hey steve

where did you get the billet shifter trim? that looks nice.

Lokar.. it's their "billet" trim deal.

Damn True
11-20-2007, 07:57 PM
What happened to the stripe?

Steve1968LS2
11-20-2007, 08:03 PM
What happened to the stripe?

What stripe?

Damn True
11-20-2007, 10:16 PM
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2007/11/0703phr_26_zbodyshop_basics-1.jpg
What stripe?

Steve68
11-21-2007, 03:55 AM
That looks like a stripe, or another car, who makes the shifter boot and trim, Rod Run this weekend time to pick up odds and ends!!

Steve1968LS2
11-21-2007, 07:23 AM
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lol.. that's not my car.. I shot that for the paint and body issue last year. It was at DP Chevy in Huntington Beach. All tapped up like that is sure looked like my car though (but it was a 69).

Steve1968LS2
11-21-2007, 07:24 AM
That looks like a stripe, or another car, who makes the shifter boot and trim, Rod Run this weekend time to pick up odds and ends!!

Lokar on both.. the trim ring is their expensive billet version.

Steve68
11-21-2007, 01:04 PM
Thanks

67SSDan
11-21-2007, 02:59 PM
What hood did you say you've got on this car?

Steve1968LS2
11-25-2007, 01:46 PM
What hood did you say you've got on this car?

Just a steel Goodmark hood.. I wanted CF but they couldn't have it done in time for SEMA. I might add one later though.

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I got one of the tachs (the digital one) working great but the other one won't go below 1,700 RPM and seems "slow"... gotta call SW on it.

The speedo has been calibrated and works great when the car is in motion. When at idle it gyrates all over the place like it's on crack.. again, time to call SW.

The clear protection is on the car so she's ready for the road. Next week she goes in for a super double-throw-down alignment.
I still have a squeek in the front drive assembley. I doesn't make noise at idle, just under load. I've replaced both the tensioner and idler pullies so it must be the PS, ALT or water pump..

I still need to wire in the Racepak..

Anyways, that's the Penny update.. and for visting the thread here's a bonus shot. This was taken by Mike Harrington of Super Chevy and was one of the candiates for the cover (but it was never used).. was taken up in the mountains.

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formula98
11-25-2007, 02:49 PM
Great shot! Nice to hear you are driving her..... How does she feel on the road? Have you gotten much road time since SEMA?

Young Gun
11-25-2007, 03:47 PM
STEVE!!! I was at AutoRama today and I believe somebody in the Firebird community is trying to make a Penny look alike :seizure:
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SixSpeed454SS
11-25-2007, 04:11 PM
Bad Penny is sweet!

I prolly would have kicked some ass if some idiot ran into one of my toys.

Steve1968LS2
11-25-2007, 06:08 PM
Bad Penny is sweet!

I prolly would have kicked some ass if some idiot ran into one of my toys.

Hey, you can't fix your car from jail.. and then the guy would sue you and get your car.

Too bad it's not like the "good old days" lol

Although if the guy didn't have insurance I might of ended up behind bars.

curly
11-25-2007, 06:32 PM
That 'bird is awesome, even though I'm not a fan of the hood on it.

It is very difficult to keep your self control when someone has just busted your baby. When I was in a wreck with my T/A (wasn't my fault... guy came flying by me and hydroplaned in front of me), I could have beat him when he started yelling at the officer because he didn't understand why his insurance had to pay. We were in the back seat of the patrol car behind the cage so I'm pretty sure I could have got a few punches before the officer could have got to him (and I was quite upset). After listening to the same thing "why does my insurance have to pay" a few times, the officer turned around and told him about the numerous tickets he would issue him if he didn't shut up.

Glad to see Penny back on the road, it is an awesome machine!!

Rileys68Camaro
11-25-2007, 07:12 PM
Is there any one spot with a bunch of details on the build? Such as steering column, fuel cell, and such?

Great car!

Steve1968LS2
11-25-2007, 07:14 PM
Is there any one spot with a bunch of details on the build? Such as steering column, fuel cell, and such?

Great car!

I'm working on one.. but not yet.

Search the term "Penny".. there's a thread from the first build but most of the pictures are gone.

Or feel free to ask me any questions in here.

Rileys68Camaro
11-25-2007, 08:10 PM
Well, the steering column first off. :)

Hints and tips on your wiring of switches for the car, keeping the engine bay clean.

Look forward to the list, not trying to copy Bad Penny, but there are a lot of ideas I'd like to try, or if not then I have an idea of what I want to do before I do something and have to tear back into the car to change it.

Like I wish I would have thought of/know about how to smooth the firewall before I had it painted body color and installed the motor and such.

Piet
11-26-2007, 12:24 PM
Ever wonder what the chrome would look like in copper?

Rhino
11-26-2007, 12:40 PM
STEVE!!! I was at AutoRama today and I believe somebody in the Firebird community is trying to make a Penny look alike :seizure: haha they obviously did not come close though so no worries!



Other than it being a pro-touring inspired 60's fbody, I'm not seeing much of a similarity.

When completed, my car will probably look closer to penny than that 'bird... but simply because I've wanted an Orange '68 to set along side my SOM '02 ever since I picked her up 6 years ago. The color won't be quite the same, have a more traditional interior, different wheels, and she'll be dressed in RS trim, but I can hear the outcries already.

There are only so many colors in the rainbow, and limited cars to put them on. There have been so many pro-touring style cars built lately, there's bound to be overlap between the builds. :)

vp23271
11-26-2007, 12:53 PM
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Thanks Steve! Just got a new background for my computer at work and more inspiration for my 68 project Camaro!

ROACHZ28
11-26-2007, 05:07 PM
All I have to say is WOW!!!!

Chewy72ss
11-28-2007, 07:49 PM
I want to see some video of Bad Penny!!! Absolutely SICK car.
Anyone know where I can get my fix?? :drool:

Cruiser
11-29-2007, 12:47 AM
Other than it being a pro-touring inspired 60's fbody, I'm not seeing much of a similarity.

When completed, my car will probably look closer to penny than that 'bird... but simply because I've wanted an Orange '68 to set along side my SOM '02 ever since I picked her up 6 years ago. The color won't be quite the same, have a more traditional interior, different wheels, and she'll be dressed in RS trim, but I can hear the outcries already.

There are only so many colors in the rainbow, and limited cars to put them on. There have been so many pro-touring style cars built lately, there's bound to be overlap between the builds. :)

Don't worry they have already flown my way!! :dunno: Just because of color. Nothing else is even close to the same much less the quality........go figure. Anyway like you said there are only so many colors and the funny thing is Prowler Orange is an OEM Chrysler color from the 02 Prowler, I loved the color when I first saw it in 02.

Joe

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streetrod77
11-29-2007, 11:28 AM
Hey Steve, Is there a thread for the Ford? I love the stance but man It looks low. I thought it had an air suspension.

Steve1968LS2
11-29-2007, 08:06 PM
Hey Steve, Is there a thread for the Ford? I love the stance but man It looks low. I thought it had an air suspension.

Yea, do a search on "Fastlane Fairlane".. all the Fairlane stories are on popularhotrodding.com also :)

Not on bags..

streetrod77
11-30-2007, 12:45 PM
thanks

Steve1968LS2
12-29-2007, 08:12 PM
Might as well condense all the Penny info into this thread.. one stop shopping. lol

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The guy who did my LS2 tuning recently bought a new alignment rack. This thing is so cool. It can measure bumpsteer, check if the chassis is square to the body and a host of other things. I guess it cost over $50k installed and uses digital cameras on targets. The technology and graphics were stunning.

Anyways, the best news was that my car is perfectly square.. to the hundreth of an inch. :woot:

And even though my car is a bit lower than optimal the bumpsteer is very minimal. Almost none in a rise and very slight to the right on a compression (1 inch each way).

Sorta cool:
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My thrust angle was at about 2-degrees so we brought that to around zero. Scott was impressed with how easy the LD three-link was to adjust. We went for a good performance street alignment since that's where the car will spend 90% of its life.

The final specs:
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The alignment wasn't cheap but I feel it was worth every penny. The car tracks dead straight, doesn't "hunt" the ruts in the roads and feels great. We also did some computer fine tuning and figured out my front squeek. When I had my alt bracket powdered they coated the nub where the idler rides by accident. I cleaned it off, but not good enough thus causing the pulley to ride at a VERY slight angle. This causes the chirp. I will order up a new brackt tomorrow and just paint the damn thing. lol

I also found out that my car runs out of gas at 1/2 tank on the gauge.. don't ask but I need to adjust the sender. :_paranoid

The rack:
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Steve1968LS2
12-29-2007, 08:18 PM
Here's when I got the clear film done.

I must say, from a few feet away you can't tell it's there and even up close it's not noticable if you don't know to look for it.

I ended up doing everything from the middle of the door down along with the front upper and lower valances. Now I really only have to worry about the front of the hood and the front of the fenders. I will spray on some protector at track day for these areas.

Getting a picture of it is hard, but I guess that's the idea. lol
The guy, Shaun, used a product called Venture film. It had far less grain compared to the 3M stuff and was very optically clear.
They also reccomended using that turtle wax ICE stuff to maintain the look of the film. Luckily that company gave me a case of it a few months ago.

Here it is going on...

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Young Gun
12-29-2007, 09:33 PM
will yall be doing any segments in the future about the application of it?

Mr.VENGEANCE
12-30-2007, 09:20 AM
NICE.. time to hit the track!

Cruiser
12-30-2007, 09:24 AM
I saw some of the clear 3M on a two 79 Z28's on the power tour. It looked good but one was Red and the other Silver. The red car you could hardly see it. The silver cars paint looked a little flat were it was applied.

How's it looking on Penny? Did the paint loose any sheen or have a color change. The color flip flops all over the place anyway so it may not be noticable....LOL!!

Joe

67SSDan
12-30-2007, 09:45 AM
That is pretty trick!

Dan


Might as well condense all the Penny info into this thread.. one stop shopping. lol

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The guy who did my LS2 tuning recently bought a new alignment rack. This thing is so cool. It can measure bumpsteer, check if the chassis is square to the body and a host of other things. I guess it cost over $50k installed and uses digital cameras on targets. The technology and graphics were stunning.

Anyways, the best news was that my car is perfectly square.. to the hundreth of an inch. :woot:

And even though my car is a bit lower than optimal the bumpsteer is very minimal. Almost none in a rise and very slight to the right on a compression (1 inch each way).

Steve1968LS2
01-12-2008, 01:28 PM
Fixed the squeek from my front drive today. It was a combination of a bad bracket and a very dry belt. :woot:

She's running good now.

Also, found a radiator cap worthy of our cars.. nice but not all polished and flashy. It's from Billet Specialties and was about $20.

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Someone asked me about my fire extinguisher mount. It's just plate alum I had cut to a template at my water jetter. I then drilled the hole and rounded the edges. After that I attached the plate for the Safecraft extinguisher. Oh the "tongue" is offset one inch and was bent down towards the floor just a bit.

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Lastly, I had a request for a pic of how my proportioning valve is mounted. Here it is. it's hung off a bracket that is attached to the master and the clutch master hangs off it as well. Makes for one tidy package.

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Young Gun
01-12-2008, 01:42 PM
sweet

Jims78elky
01-12-2008, 11:47 PM
Also, found a radiator cap worthy of our cars.. nice but not all polished and flashy. It's from Billet Specialties and was about $20.

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Steve,

Penny looks amazing as always! Love the new rad cap!

Don't forget the fairlane's :attn:


-Jim

Kman
01-13-2008, 05:55 PM
Why did they recommend Turtle Wax Ice over brand "B"?

Glad you got the belt situatuion fixed. Can't wait to see Bad Penny in the next few weeks.

Steve1968LS2
01-13-2008, 06:05 PM
Why did they recommend Turtle Wax Ice over brand "B"?

Glad you got the belt situatuion fixed. Can't wait to see Bad Penny in the next few weeks.

Yea, that chirp killed me.. I left the house (thought I had fixed it) and then CHIRP CHIRP.. I couldn't let all them exotic guys hear that. lol

I will hit C&C after Barret Jackson.. :)

They recommended the ICE stuff for the clear film because it leaves zero residue in the edge of the material.. just makes it easier to detail.

Kman
01-13-2008, 08:10 PM
Yea, that chirp killed me.. I left the house (thought I had fixed it) and then CHIRP CHIRP.. I couldn't let all them exotic guys hear that. lol

I will hit C&C after Barret Jackson.. :)

They recommended the ICE stuff for the clear film because it leaves zero residue in the edge of the material.. just makes it easier to detail.

This past weekend at C&C there was a crap load of BMW's since it was BMW day. Not fun at all like I said in my e-mail I sent you. I sent you my cell number. Give me a call when you plan on hitting up C&C.

Very true about ICE. What's the warrenty on the clear bra? How does it do against yellowing? Looks good from the pics since I can't see it. :rotfl:

rockdogz
01-13-2008, 10:58 PM
This past weekend at C&C there was a crap load of BMW's since it was BMW day. Not fun at all like I said in my e-mail I sent you. I sent you my cell number. Give me a call when you plan on hitting up C&C.

Very true about ICE. What's the warrenty on the clear bra? How does it do against yellowing? Looks good from the pics since I can't see it. :rotfl:

Yeah I don't understand what those BMW people were doing... holding up the cars as they came in? :screwy:

Kman
01-13-2008, 11:12 PM
Yeah I don't understand what those BMW people were doing... holding up the cars as they came in? :screwy:

Had to be one of the most borning C&C's in a long time. A bunch of stock BMW's, cool.......not. There were nicer cars in the over flow then in the main lot.

I have seen your f-body a few times, and I saw it again at C&C last weekend. Looks great. I'm sure that 502 is nice. ;) Still amazes me how low your car sits.

strangler
01-14-2008, 08:07 AM
Whats C&C?

protour73
01-14-2008, 09:07 AM
Steve..........any more pics of that Prop valve bracket? kind of dark in that pic.........is that radiator cap black anodized?
thanks,
Scott

Steve1968LS2
01-14-2008, 09:34 AM
Steve..........any more pics of that Prop valve bracket? kind of dark in that pic.........is that radiator cap black anodized?
thanks,
Scott

Yea, the radiator cap is black annodized. It pops on over the actuall cap. It only comes in black but I suppose you could have ti refinished however you like. I was going to coat it like the headers but I'm not sure since the black looks pretty good.

Here's another one. The bracket is a simple L shapped deal. It goes from the master cylinder bolts forward and is sandwiched between the prop valve and the cluch master. It's charcoal grey in color (like the ATS bracket). I will try and find just a pic of the bracket at home.

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Kman
01-14-2008, 09:40 AM
Whats C&C?

Cars and Coffee.

http://carsandcoffee.info/main.html

67speedfreak
01-15-2008, 08:22 PM
Steve,

Your car is soo bad ass!!!

saunacrank
05-11-2008, 01:23 PM
Steve, I love your car, I've read the article in PHR over and over. Wondering what kind of Gas cap that is?

Steve1968LS2
05-11-2008, 02:33 PM
Steve, I love your car, I've read the article in PHR over and over. Wondering what kind of Gas cap that is?

Not that question!!!!! :smashcomp

:help:

lol... do a searh for "Larry gas cap"... and the drama wash over you..

Steve1968LS2
05-11-2008, 02:38 PM
And since someone brought this thread back from page 99.. I might as well update it :)

Here's a short video at the Goodguys autocross: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrx-wCmR3kg


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My new lightened and polished 3.90 gears came in.. man, they are almost too nice to hide in the differential. lol
Cost was $240 for the lightening and $99 for the polishing. The new case is an aluminum unit that will knock 20lbs off the back of the car. The best part is that weight is unsprung!

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bwhinnen
05-11-2008, 03:05 PM
Steve it has been a joy reading all about Bad Penny again, I absolutely adore this car and it is the one car that made me fall in love with the first Gen Camaro!

I only wish I could afford to do one with 1/4 of the detail you have here, heck I'd just be happy to have one full stop :)

GMracer
05-13-2008, 09:47 AM
I just read this whole thread, and the work is unbelievable. Very meticulous

Steve1968LS2
05-20-2008, 07:44 PM
Steve it has been a joy reading all about Bad Penny again, I absolutely adore this car and it is the one car that made me fall in love with the first Gen Camaro!

I only wish I could afford to do one with 1/4 of the detail you have here, heck I'd just be happy to have one full stop :)

You know.. having a car "detailed" is pretty cheap.. it just takes time and patience. It's looking at the little things and figuring out how to make it look cleaner and more integrated to the car.

Thanks for the comments.

bwhinnen
05-21-2008, 03:43 AM
You know.. having a car "detailed" is pretty cheap.. it just takes time and patience. It's looking at the little things and figuring out how to make it look cleaner and more integrated to the car.

Thanks for the comments.
Thanks Steve, I have a few ideas for a PT car I'd like to build, will be a few years before I pick up the base car. I'm looking at using an Holden (1976 - 1978) LX or UC Torana Hatch body as the start. A first gen Camaro is just too expensive over here to find, specially one that doesn't need everything replaced...

LX - with A9X flares
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UC
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Steve1968LS2
05-21-2008, 07:19 AM
I'm really digging the LX with the flares..

shortz
05-21-2008, 09:25 PM
ohhh i have a soft spot for those torana hatches