Bullrun

[LateNight72]

Anyone know what day they will be coming through South Florida?

[68firebird]

How often do they have these bullruns? Can anyone join, cause I sure as hell want to try it out.

[acadian]

How often do they have these bullruns? Can anyone join, cause I sure as hell want to try it out.

gtspirit.com and bullrun.com has a lot of info on these pro-touring candy's...enjoy but please come back to pro-touring.com

+"slowly accumulating parts to make the bird a pro-touring machine" better accelerate your purchase and be dead serious in your project if you want to compete with ferrari enzo, lambo murcielago and porsche carrera gt on the street, some of those toys have well over
$ 200000-$ 500000 in performance parts chosen and tested by engineers used to a racing environnement.

good luck if you want to compete unless you drive a low profile vehicule that can dissapears from police radar.

[Chad-1stGen]

Here's a vid from the start of the real Bullrun that left Montreal over the weekend. It appears Mr. Angry gets to talk to the man......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnYIeKKEqnI&eurl=

Lame...

Burn outs should be legal everywhere...

[68firebird]

gtspirit.com and bullrun.com has a lot of info on these pro-touring candy's...enjoy but please come back to pro-touring.com

+"slowly accumulating parts to make the bird a pro-touring machine" better accelerate your purchase and be dead serious in your project if you want to compete with ferrari enzo, lambo murcielago and porsche carrera gt on the street, some of those toys have well over
$ 200000-$ 500000 in performance parts chosen and tested by engineers used to a racing environnement.

good luck if you want to compete unless you drive a low profile vehicule that can dissapears from police radar.


I hear ya, but isn't everybody supposed to follow the rules of the road on those runs? So to me, if thats the case, speed and the most expensive go fast goodies really don't make that big a deal. I understand there would be the occasional high speed blast, but for the most part I think its about navigation, fuel economy, and outwitting your opponents.

[FoxGranadaChuck]

I am looking forward to tonight's final episode.....

[CraigMorrison]

How often do they have these bullruns? Can anyone join, cause I sure as hell want to try it out.

Like Acadian said, Gtspirit.com has a lot of info on the international rally scene. Bullrun- anybody can run it if you can afford the $17,500 entry fee, and what ever tickets / jail time you happen to be involved with during the run.

The Great American run is $10,000 and Gumball 3000 (because of the exchange rate) is close to $50,000.

This year in the States, we have Bullrun, Players Run, The Great American Run, The Fireball Run, just to name a few. Over in Europe, there are at least 15 or so rally's being run "this season".

[CraigMorrison]

Lame...

Burn outs should be legal everywhere...

I think you need to run for Governor! You'd definitely get the car guy vote with that!

[CraigMorrison]

I hear ya, but isn't everybody supposed to follow the rules of the road on those runs? So to me, if thats the case, speed and the most expensive go fast goodies really don't make that big a deal. I understand there would be the occasional high speed blast, but for the most part I think its about navigation, fuel economy, and outwitting your opponents.

It's what they say, but if you aren't cruising at 100+ for long periods of time, have great range and great nav skills not to mention police detection and evasion techniques you are going to be far from the front of the pack.

[Bookm]

... but isn't everybody supposed to follow the rules of the road on those runs? ... I think its about navigation, fuel economy, and outwitting your opponents.
LOL,... sure. (chuckle)

Tonight we learn who's... um... even richer!! (as most "bullrunners" appear pretty well off anyway :drool:). I know there's been some bad blood between participants, but I hope in the end everyone realizes this is just a fun thing to do with neat cars. I'd save your "long-term" animosity for dweebs in Smartcars, and get back to a positive vibe about the car hobby in general.

Watching this show has given me the kick in the ass necessary to pull my old Goat out from under the tarp (after sitting for 7 years!) and get 'r back to her former glory!! The amount of info and parts availability found on the internet has really opened my eyes!! Reading about the Chargers components, and the realization that the mid-70's muscle of the Olds is now worth restoring, has me focused again, like when I bought it 26 years ago. My daughter is 16 next year, and the Alsops have inspired me to "get it together" so WE can do neat stuff together, too.

So thanks to all the drivers who took the time to post on this forum. I really don't care who's car is faster than who's. You're all out there throwing these cars around like they're meant to be, and that's just plain cool!!

Sean

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[68firebird]

It's what they say, but if you aren't cruising at 100+ for long periods of time, have great range and great nav skills not to mention police detection and evasion techniques you are going to be far from the front of the pack.

ah, I can do that in my Dodge Ram, although the range won't be too great. Man, I had no idea the entry fees were that high, holy chit

[CraigMorrison]

holy chit

Exactly! Most you have to submit your info first and then they invite you to pay up. There are that many trying to get in!

[got_hp?]

lmfao, check out the comments on the bullrun website


"This is the 1st time Bullrun Live Rally participants are seeing Mike in person. Many have mentioned that Mike looks too young to be Morgan's father and that it may be a hoax for the Spike show. He may actually be her older brother.

There have been talks among Bullrunners to conduct a DNA test before the end of the rally. The Alsops have been too busy with the car to comment. More news to come."



good havin ya on the board guys, kick some exotic ass in the real bullrun!

[FoxGranadaChuck]

Like Acadian said, Gtspirit.com has a lot of info on the international rally scene. Bullrun- anybody can run it if you can afford the $17,500 entry fee, and what ever tickets / jail time you happen to be involved with during the run.

The Great American run is $10,000 and Gumball 3000 (because of the exchange rate) is close to $50,000.

This year in the States, we have Bullrun, Players Run, The Great American Run, The Fireball Run, just to name a few. Over in Europe, there are at least 15 or so rally's being run "this season".

Sounds fairly pricey, but I would still like to compete in Bullrun. Now if I can just get my Cougar finished.....

[FoxGranadaChuck]

ah, I can do that in my Dodge Ram, although the range won't be too great. Man, I had no idea the entry fees were that high, holy chit

Entering a Dodge Ram pick-up truck sure sounds REALLY cool!

[FoxGranadaChuck]

Exactly! Most you have to submit your info first and then they invite you to pay up. There are that many trying to get in!

I am not surprised about that.

[FoxGranadaChuck]

LOL,... sure. (chuckle)

Tonight we learn who's... um... even richer!! (as most "bullrunners" appear pretty well off anyway :drool:). I know there's been some bad blood between participants, but I hope in the end everyone realizes this is just a fun thing to do with neat cars. I'd save your "long-term" animosity for dweebs in Smartcars, and get back to a positive vibe about the car hobby in general.

Watching this show has given me the kick in the ass necessary to pull my old Goat out from under the tarp (after sitting for 7 years!) and get 'r back to her former glory!! The amount of info and parts availability found on the internet has really opened my eyes!! Reading about the Chargers components, and the realization that the mid-70's muscle of the Olds is now worth restoring, has me focused again, like when I bought it 26 years ago. My daughter is 16 next year, and the Alsops have inspired me to "get it together" so WE can do neat stuff together, too.

So thanks to all the drivers who took the time to post on this forum. I really don't care who's car is faster than who's. You're all out there throwing these cars around like they're meant to be, and that's just plain cool!!

Sean


I heartily concur on all points. Watching Bullrun has got me fired up again to finish my 'Coug.

[73novaguy]

I can't stand it, I'm like a little kid waiting for Santa on X-Mas. I work nights and have it Tivod. The only downfall is I won't be able to log onto here because I don't wanna spoil the ending. Damn it. The computer at work will be taunting me like a $3 hooker on pay day!

[acadian]

hey guys, one more thing...

bullrun on spike tv is definitely not bullrun 2007 montreal-key west wich is basically a deep pocket, drive as fast as you can and try to avoid jail to win...

bullrun on spike truly is a rally

bullrun (real event) is called a rally for legal reasons and being able to occur but in fact it is an all out illegal race that has some check points, that's it folks. not what you see on tv for sure...except for movies like cannonball run or gumball rally if you remove all the lame jokes.

[CraigMorrison]

http://www.fastlanedaily.com/episode/fld_20070515

Here's a little video from Fast Lane Daily on rallying 101 from Alex Roy and Mike Spinelli from Jalopnik.

If you don't know who who Alex Roy his, here is his site http://gumball144.com/CMS/

and a vid of one his more famous rally moments. It's OK, he has a police escort:eek: http://youtube.com/watch?v=bbbtK90LZ9E NSFW language warning.

[67 455 Bird ragtop]

Congrats TEAM TRANS AM!!!!!

[rob07002]

WOW!

What a final show!!!!!

I was going to wait for the west coasters to catch up before congratulating, but 67 455 beat me to it.

Congrats Alsops!

Team Olds, you guys should be very proud of what you accomplished. You did us Tri-state peeps proud. Very smart move getting your brakes fixed somewhat. Did you ever find out why they wern't working right?

Congrats again! I want to do the next Bullrun!

I'll buy the first few rounds if your ever in the city.

[speedster]

Now that it's official:


- Congrats Mike and Morgan -


Nice touch with the victory burnout at the end !!!

:cheers:

:woot:

[speedster]

P.S. Red Firebirds Rock...

[FoxGranadaChuck]

CONGRATULATIONS TEAM ALSOP!!!

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

[rob07002]

Bring it! :enguard:

I have a sneaky suspiscion Team TA won it all.

Damn, I'm good:worship:

[muthstryker]

NICE you punks from the EAST COAST JUST RUINED IT FOR ME! WAY TO GO *******S!


LOL im just kidding dont get upset. but now do i have a reason to watch it?

[zbugger]

NICE you punks from the EAST COAST JUST RUINED IT FOR ME! WAY TO GO *******S!


LOL im just kidding dont get upset. but now do i have a reason to watch it?

No kidding. Time to go to the banning screen...:nopity:

[staged67gspwr]

Too bad the olds guys didnt win i like those guys,congrats to the Alsops.

Thanks

[68firebird]

Congrats team trans am, what a final episode.

[TA219]

Wow, at the end i really didnt have a favorite, a part of me wanted the trucks short cut to pay off.... a part of me wanted to see the olds pull through as an underdog.... and a part of me wanted to see the father / daughter represent the F-Body!

Awesome show!! Congrats to team TransAm

[FoxGranadaChuck]

NICE you punks from the EAST COAST JUST RUINED IT FOR ME! WAY TO GO *******S!


LOL im just kidding dont get upset. but now do i have a reason to watch it?

Yes, you do have a reason to watch it, if no other reason than the suspense of the last 5 minutes of the show.

[Damn True]

Not much suspense left after someone posted the results.

[speedster]

Congrats to Team Oldd too. I am sure it was a tough decision to get the brakes fixed, but it paid off in the challenge. Nice driving Rich. Definitely under a lot of pressure to push the hell out of the car when you are not the primary driver. It looked almost like your time split may have been faster than your brother's. ..and you caught the keys.

[speedster]

Team Olds. Sorry about the crappy typing, my right arm is broken...

[mdprovee]

Congrats to Team Olds for sticking with it. I bet you guys had a blast.

Congrats to Team Trans Am, you guys were always near the top.

[LMDGUY]

DAMN! I have it on DVR, cant wait to watch it. It was kinda funny to see the 3 teams in downtown Phx driving in the wrong direction. Congrats Alsops

[67 455 Bird ragtop]

NICE you punks from the EAST COAST JUST RUINED IT FOR ME! WAY TO GO *******S!


LOL im just kidding dont get upset. but now do i have a reason to watch it?

Shouldn't have read this thread before you watched it ....

[dropit69]

congrats Mike and Morgan..awesome job..killer burnout Mike!!!!

[FoxGranadaChuck]

Not much suspense left after someone posted the results.

The last 5 minutes were really suspenseful, even though I basically knew that Team Alsop would get it.

[FoxGranadaChuck]

congrats Mike and Morgan..awesome job..killer burnout Mike!!!!

I concur!!!

[6'9"Witha69]

That was a nice final episode. I was glad to see the F Body take it.

I will say, as much as I despise the F150 boys attitudes, based on the expressions on their faces, were much better sportsmans than the Olds guys. But perhaps that was because they had the whole 2nd leg to accept that they were going to lose, and team Olds really had a chance.

Then again, I would be pretty upset about losing being that close too.

Overall, congrats to everyone who made it through this. You all showed some good driving and navigating abilities. I will also say that the last 4 teams were the ones who actually got along in the cockpit and didn't have all the in-fighting going on. Good job on cool heads and a great show.

[FoxGranadaChuck]

That was a nice final episode. I was glad to see the F Body take it.

I will say, as much as I despise the F150 boys attitudes, based on the expressions on their faces, were much better sportsmans than the Olds guys. But perhaps that was because they had the whole 2nd leg to accept that they were going to lose, and team Olds really had a chance.

Then again, I would be pretty upset about losing being that close too.

Overall, congrats to everyone who made it through this. You all showed some good driving and navigating abilities. I will also say that the last 4 teams were the ones who actually got along in the cockpit and didn't have all the in-fighting going on. Good job on cool heads and a great show.


I concur on all points.

[FoxGranadaChuck]

One thing that I have noticed about Bullrun is that one has to have REALLY good navigational abilities. One also has to have fairly decent gas mileage.

[Martin71RS]

Congrats to the Alsops! you were very constant finishing up front almost each time, so I was not very surprised.....Also a big thumb up to team Olds for taking an old car and showing folks what can be acheived with it.

Martin

[dan10101]

Congrats to the Alsops! My Son and I are big fans of the show. Now I'll have to do school work on Monday nights.

I do have some questions about the times.

You guys (Trans Am) had a 7 min head start on the last leg. The Olds guys came in before you. Yet you still won by 9 minutes.

The Ford PU had a 2 hour disadvantage, made up at least 45 minutes and still lost by 2 hours.

What was up with that?

So, who would have won if it was cumulative times over the whole trip?

[Chad-1stGen]

I think while the olds guys said they only had 7 minutes to make up that it was closer to 17?

Anyhow the last episode was one of the best. The Ford guys getting stuck with that time and then using the dirt road to come in first was pretty cool. The show made it seem closer than it was once you got to see the times though. It looked like they were still close to two hours behind.

Man that episode rocked. Gratz to team Alsop and I loved the victory burn out.

[dan10101]

Here is the first leg results. Remember the Olds took the 2nd spot in the challenge.

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Here is the 2nd leg results.

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Maybe, I'm having trouble with my math, but that's the way I see it. My Son pegged before they pulled the winners slide.

[Chad-1stGen]

After the second leg the times displayed are cummulative with the frist time and second time. Also, remember the teams don't start at the same time so while the editing makes it look like a made scramble to get in your cars and take off perhaps there is a larger gap than we are shown? Same with the arrivals. It's hard to tell how much time has really elapsed between arrivals.

Maybe a show participant can chime in.

PS to the Olds team how come you guys are not at the real bullrun?

[got_hp?]

PS to the Olds team how come you guys are not at the real bullrun?


possibly the expensive entrance fee?

[Rich Team11 H/O]

Some info:
Mike and Morgan and even Jason and Jake did an incredible job...still the end is quite sketchy so I will leave it at that for now. Regardless, I feel the three finalists did deserve to be there and were all very worthy of being called champion.

Our brakes:
We actually had work done by two different shops, neither could fix the problem...it was unfixable. I actaully got on my knees and begged the Pep-Boys master mechanic to take a look at the car and figure out what was wrong. He refused to be on camera, so that part was edited out.

What we learned when we got back home was that the calipers that we installed in the Hurst for the rally were for a different make, model, and for a car with no power brakes. The company that sent it to us made an error...........A TREMENDOUS ERROR (this had an impact on us mentally and physically since we were constantly working on the car while others were resting and or partying).

So what was happening was that the pistons of the calipers were not large enough to accomodate the amount of fluid and pressure being generated by our brake system, so the weakest link would give out....that being the rear cylinders, they would over-extend the pistons every time we braked hard thereby shooting fluid out and losing pressure and all brakes.

In the challenge against the Lotus, somehow our power steering resevoir ran dry once we started so it was nearly impossible to turn the wheel....thats why we lost so miserably. Had our car been running 100% I no have no doubt in my mind that we would have spanked them.....you cant believe how well this car handles, Lambo team knows, us and them had some serious fun on the leg we did together prior to hitting the racoon.

We also had a power drain since day one that required us to disconnect the battery after every stop or else the battery would be dead by the next day.

Thanks all!

Rich

Car was not ready was the main reason we did not enter the real Bullrun, we did not feel competitive in the 73 Cutlass with the 350, and the other Olds were in various stages of restification. We almost had a big sponsor but when the Hurst's appearance became questionable due to ongoing mechanical repairs and improvements they backed down.

BTW my blazing performance in the last challenge was in part due to an unleashing of 700hp, via 150hp NOS shot, when I was at the wheel! If you take note as I take off, very easily so as not to roast the tires or break the axles, I then punch it and hit the NOS, but the lines had not been purged so the car bogs momentarily (I thought it was going to stall!!) then takes off like a bat outta hell; felt damn good, I could do that all day and night!

That was hundreds of gallons of gasoline in that explosion, it felt like a bomb, shook the ground and shattered windows miles away...insane and over the top!

Some interesting Bullrun news: www.gtspirit.com

[rockdogz]

Aww, man - I just finished watching the (recorded) 2nd to last episode. Now I know who won! :squint:

While I was watching it, they had a commercial for the final show, and said who was in it!! So that ruined that episode.. what the heck were they thinking!

This show was great, but I'm afraid if they keep doing it then it won't be much more interesting the 2nd time.... or the 53rd.

Congrats to all who participated...especially the final three and the Alsops!!

[speedster]

BTW my blazing performance in the last challenge was in part due to an unleashing of 700hp, via 150hp NOS shot, when I was at the wheel! If you take note as I take off, very easily so as not to roast the tires or break the axles, I then punch it and hit the NOS, but the lines had not been purged so the car bogs momentarily (I thought it was going to stall!!) then takes off like a bat outta hell; felt damn good, I could do that all day and night!


Rich -

Nitrous or not, you still had to go around corners and you were flying...
Congrats overall. To make it to the top two was no small feat. Add in all of the bugs along the way and it was a very impressive showing.

[FoxGranadaChuck]

Rich -

Nitrous or not, you still had to go around corners and you were flying...
Congrats overall. To make it to the top two was no small feat. Add in all of the bugs along the way and it was a very impressive showing.

Ditto.

[Rich Team11 H/O]

Selling some parts off of the H/O:

https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?p=274123#post274123