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JoshStratton
01-25-2007, 10:14 AM
For anyone who was interested, after 6 LOOONGGG months, I finally got a title in the mail yesterday!!!

Finally this is resolved....sort of. Ohio titles need a notary, but this is from Missouri and no notarization has taken place. I hope they are not required from there. I will have to hurt someone...:box2:

Figures too. I went and put a retainer on a lawyer yesterday too. They were going to try and get me an Ohio title.

wantahertzdonut
01-25-2007, 10:53 AM
If notary isn't required in the state it's coming from then you shouldn't need it to be here in Ohio. My Mustang had a CA title with no notary and I had no problem getting it transfered.

Steve1968LS2
01-25-2007, 11:16 AM
You inspired part my my current "don't get robbed" story. Glad you finally got a title.. at least it's a step.

Martin71RS
01-25-2007, 11:32 AM
We have a WINNER!!!! cool your efforts finally paid off...

Martin

JMarsa
01-25-2007, 02:15 PM
What about the states that don't have titles, only registration? if your state has titles, will the car now have one?

--JMarsa

JoshStratton
01-25-2007, 04:31 PM
I wasnt aware that other states did not have titles. Louisianna didnt require titles until about 15 years ago, but Ohio would require one to register the car in this state. They will not even allow titles from companies like 'Broadway Title'. If you dont have one in Ohio, you are SOL. You can get a lawyer who can get you one if you can provide proof you purchased it in good faith. The lawyer will perform a VIN search to make sure it is not stolen and then present your case to the courts.

blackbeast
01-25-2007, 05:08 PM
congrats, now hopefully we can both have some luck with the idiots that screwed us over!

toxicz28
01-27-2007, 12:36 PM
Cool deal! When are you getting your air ride and bad brakes??

JoshStratton
01-27-2007, 03:14 PM
LOL eventually. I want to get it cleaned up and running for now.

My plans are for a 4 valve air ride kit, 5" narrowed front beam, BAD brakes with dropped CP spindles 17x7 rims and a 2270cc type 4 motor.

It'll look a little like this when done (without the rag clip):

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

toxicz28
01-27-2007, 07:26 PM
The '54 I'm redoing is getting pretty much the same treatment. The PITA is it's a link pin front with a swing axle rear, and since the stuff he sells is for a '57-up, there's alot of modifications I have to do to get the stuff to work. Nothing too bad, and at least I'm getting paid to do this car.:cool:

JoshStratton
01-28-2007, 06:42 AM
The '54 I'm redoing is getting pretty much the same treatment. The PITA is it's a link pin front with a swing axle rear, and since the stuff he sells is for a '57-up, there's alot of modifications I have to do to get the stuff to work. Nothing too bad, and at least I'm getting paid to do this car.:cool:


I love oval windows.:woot:

The link and swing shouldnt make a difference. All Bugs from 1949 - 1968 had a swing axle rear. From 49 - 65 they all had a link front and the pan didnt really change between that time. If you mean Pete at Airkewld, he sells a kit that is for 49-65 Bugs. It should work on your 54. I'd love to see some progress pics. Keep up the good work restoring a great car :smoke:
http://www.airkewld.com/parts/proddetail.php?prod=ARK-4100

toxicz28
01-28-2007, 07:54 AM
I love oval windows.:woot:

The link and swing shouldnt make a difference. All Bugs from 1949 - 1968 had a swing axle rear. From 49 - 65 they all had a link front and the pan didnt really change between that time. If you mean Pete at Airkewld, he sells a kit that is for 49-65 Bugs. It should work on your 54. I'd love to see some progress pics. Keep up the good work restoring a great car :smoke:
http://www.airkewld.com/parts/proddetail.php?prod=ARK-4100

Yeah, that's whose kit I'm using. The 4 valve kit is nice.
The bulkheads for the shock mounts were off, had to get new ones. The original park brake was adjusted at the front beam, new cables only go to the handle, gotta cut the tunnel to cut the cable tubes and bend them so they hit the handle. Park brake handle opening is .543" new park brake is .901". The best is, after all the crap I went through to get the bulkheads, when he (the guy I'm doing the car for) went to order his transmission, he found out he had a crashbox that's only good for about 40hp(:hah: ) he needed to get an entirely different transmission, so the axle tubes, bulkheads, brackets, etc. that I refinished for him are now useless. It's just little tedious B.S. and setbacks. The time schedule was blown away. It was supposed to be going back to him (the owner) rolling, with the body painted and polished this weekend. The pan doesn't even roll yet :banghead:. I'll stop complaining now. Once I get the pan rolling, I'll post up some pics for you.

novanutcase
01-28-2007, 08:47 AM
Hey Josh!

I think I saw your car out here in Cali! Did you go to the Pomona Swap Meet a few months back?

Nice Car BTW! I used to have a '68 with a 2 liter and some 48's. No one used airbags to lower their bugs in those days so I pulled some shims out of the front beam, relocated the spring plates in back and dropped her that way! It dropped so low that I had to put skateboard truck and wheels on the front of the car to make it over speed bumps!

John

JoshStratton
01-28-2007, 11:17 AM
Yeah, that's whose kit I'm using. The 4 valve kit is nice.
The bulkheads for the shock mounts were off, had to get new ones. The original park brake was adjusted at the front beam, new cables only go to the handle, gotta cut the tunnel to cut the cable tubes and bend them so they hit the handle. Park brake handle opening is .543" new park brake is .901". The best is, after all the crap I went through to get the bulkheads, when he (the guy I'm doing the car for) went to order his transmission, he found out he had a crashbox that's only good for about 40hp(:hah: ) he needed to get an entirely different transmission, so the axle tubes, bulkheads, brackets, etc. that I refinished for him are now useless. It's just little tedious B.S. and setbacks. The time schedule was blown away. It was supposed to be going back to him (the owner) rolling, with the body painted and polished this weekend. The pan doesn't even roll yet :banghead:. I'll stop complaining now. Once I get the pan rolling, I'll post up some pics for you.

At least his is a lot farther than mine will be in the next few years :(. I hope to just get it running and add parts as I go. The bulk of my time/cash will be going into my Trans Am. I wanted something to drive until the TA is road worthy.

JoshStratton
01-28-2007, 11:21 AM
Hey Josh!

I think I saw your car out here in Cali! Did you go to the Pomona Swap Meet a few months back?

Nice Car BTW! I used to have a '68 with a 2 liter and some 48's. No one used airbags to lower their bugs in those days so I pulled some shims out of the front beam, relocated the spring plates in back and dropped her that way! It dropped so low that I had to put skateboard truck and wheels on the front of the car to make it over speed bumps!

John

Skateboard wheels. That is the first I have heard of that. It's a pretty good idea! I bet that was a hard ride. That's the only thing I dont like about old Bugs, every pot hole sounds like a car crash. Well, that and the low seats. I like the way they look, but getting hit from the rear will brake your neck.

I have never been to Pomona, unfortunately. This car was found in Missouri. From what I know, it's been there the last 26 years, sitting in a field and then later a gravel lot. It isnt pretty inside (and smells like pee) but the body is pretty decent and should be a cheap-ish restoration.

EDIT: It just occured to me that you meant the car in that picture I posted. That is what mine will look like, sorta, eventually. That car belongs to Pete who owns www.airkewld.com.

This is my car (not very pretty): http://www.joshuastratton.com/CarStuff/VW%20Bug/index2.html

novanutcase
01-28-2007, 11:27 AM
Oh yeah! BIG difference!!:) What'cha got planned for the motor?

novanutcase
01-28-2007, 11:30 AM
That's the only thing I dont like about old Bugs, every pot hole sounds like a car crash.

Yeah...bugs aren't known for their "stellar" suspensions.........

JoshStratton
01-28-2007, 11:30 AM
Oh yeah! BIG difference!!:) What'cha got planned for the motor?

You almost need a tetinus shot from looking at it. :sick:

I would like to put in a 2270cc Type4 motor. My goal is a very reliable 150 HP @ 30+mpg

novanutcase
01-28-2007, 11:35 AM
You almost need a tetinus shot from looking at it. :sick:

I would like to put in a 2270cc Type4 motor. My goal is a very reliable 150 HP @ 30+mpg

RELIABLE??? On 2 liters?? Good Luck! Unless they have made these size motors more reliable, I can tell you that you will be wrenching on this sucker pretty much every weekend! I would imagine that you will top it off with some Weber 48 IDA's? Those things are a bear to adjust but when you do....LOOKOUT...that motor will scream!!! Make sure you run a stout trans as the VW stock ones will blow up with that kind of power. I went through 2 transmissions before coughing up the dough and buying a bus tranny. Make sure you use blued axles too. I sheared the ones on my first tranny.

John

toxicz28
01-28-2007, 12:13 PM
You almost need a tetinus shot from looking at it. :sick:

I would like to put in a 2270cc Type4 motor. My goal is a very reliable 150 HP @ 30+mpg

The '54 I'm doing, only had a little bit of rust. It's biggest problem it had was cracks in the metal.
Make sure your trans isn't a crashbox. The easiest way to tell, is if the case splits down the middle giving you a right and a left half. They're garbage and won't handle more than 40hp. (per the owner of strictly foreign)

JoshStratton
01-28-2007, 05:21 PM
RELIABLE??? On 2 liters?? Good Luck! Unless they have made these size motors more reliable, I can tell you that you will be wrenching on this sucker pretty much every weekend! I would imagine that you will top it off with some Weber 48 IDA's? Those things are a bear to adjust but when you do....LOOKOUT...that motor will scream!!! Make sure you run a stout trans as the VW stock ones will blow up with that kind of power. I went through 2 transmissions before coughing up the dough and buying a bus tranny. Make sure you use blued axles too. I sheared the ones on my first tranny.

John

I'm talking about a 2 liter type 4 engine, not a type 1. There's no way I would think of building a daily driver 2270 type 1 motor. Not very streetable. A type 4 2270 will travel coast-to-coast all day long and give you great gas milage to boot. I don't think I could ever have another type 1 engine. Porsche all the way :)

JoshStratton
01-28-2007, 05:25 PM
The '54 I'm doing, only had a little bit of rust. It's biggest problem it had was cracks in the metal.
Make sure your trans isn't a crashbox. The easiest way to tell, is if the case splits down the middle giving you a right and a left half. They're garbage and won't handle more than 40hp. (per the owner of strictly foreign)

I will be using the Stage B swing axle from www.aircooledtechnology.com (http://www.aircooledtechnology.com). They are built for the engine I want to build and moderately priced.

http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/store/product.php?productid=16370&cat=319&page=1

novanutcase
01-28-2007, 05:29 PM
Type 4? I've been out of the game for a while so a quick tutorial is needed! Is the Type 4 a pancake 914 engine? How hard is it to modify this to fit in a bug?

JoshStratton
01-28-2007, 05:47 PM
Type 4? I've been out of the game for a while so a quick tutorial is needed! Is the Type 4 a pancake 914 engine? How hard is it to modify this to fit in a bug?

Thats the one.
They are not difficult to convert to upright, at all. The block is basically the same as a type1, but thicker and allows for bigger displacements without thinning the case too much. A HUGE advantage is the benefit of utilizing the Porsche-style fan. The one in this picture looks like a type1, but the fan is what I wanted to point out. The type 4 would look just like it:

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

cadpro
01-28-2007, 05:49 PM
Interesting how this thread got hijaked into an ACVW thread! LOL!

Josh - Do yourself a favor and call Rancho Transmissions in Anaheim. Talk to Sam. They are the best when it comes to transaxles. You may want to DIY, but trust me, its worth the shipping costs to have an expert do it. BTW, you don't have to build a "large" 2 liter motor to make a reliable 150hp. If that's your goal, a 1914 or 2011 Type 1 motor will get you there easily. We had a customer that we built a reliable 2011 that made 205 and was a daily driver. This was in a HEAVY ghia and that thing screamed!

Novanutcase - stop bringing up all these VW memories. Its going to make me want to go get my '60 ragtop from mom and start messing with it! I'll never get my wagon done!

C-

Edit: Josh - You beat me to the punch with that photo.... please, please, please stay away from Bernie's engines. If you'd like some names to reliable engine builders, PM me. I worked in the ACVW industry for 7 years (at RLR) and still have lots of good contacts there.

JoshStratton
01-28-2007, 06:02 PM
Interesting how this thread got hijaked into an ACVW thread! LOL!

Josh - Do yourself a favor and call Rancho Transmissions in Anaheim. Talk to Sam. They are the best when it comes to transaxles. You may want to DIY, but trust me, its worth the shipping costs to have an expert do it. BTW, you don't have to build a "large" 2 liter motor to make a reliable 150hp. If that's your goal, a 1914 or 2011 Type 1 motor will get you there easily. We had a customer that we built a reliable 2011 that made 205 and was a daily driver. This was in a HEAVY ghia and that thing screamed!

Novanutcase - stop bringing up all these VW memories. Its going to make me want to go get my '60 ragtop from mom and start messing with it! I'll never get my wagon done!

C-

Edit: Josh - You beat me to the punch with that photo.... please, please, please stay away from Bernie's engines. If you'd like some names to reliable engine builders, PM me. I worked in the ACVW industry for 7 years (at RLR) and still have lots of good contacts there.

Ahhhh Rancho! I too have been out of it for a few years and forgot about them. I am not nearly ready for that stage yet, but I will look them up when I am ready. I wont build the tranny myself...just the engine. I just used Bernie's picture cause it was the only one I could find with a Porsche fan ;)

You worked at Ron Lummus? Very cool. They make some great buggy stuff! My dad built a dune buggy (mostly from Larry's Offroad in Dayton) and that thing was a blast to drive. I would take it to High School sometimes. We hosted exchange students when I was younger and I'd take them to school in that thing. That German kid hated me . We'd get to school and have mud all over us. I had a hard time keeping it on the street...:evil:

novanutcase
01-28-2007, 06:09 PM
God I used to LOVE wrenching on my 'dub. It was like fixing a lawnmower engine with a couple more cylinders!!!:bananna2:

WOW! They sure have come a long way with VW aftermarket performance stuff. To do a Type 4 conversion used to be a pipedream as there was a lot of custom stuff that needed to be done. Hmmmm....maybe I need to start looking for a convertible ghia again!!!!

Cadpro - you and I know that VW's will never completely leave yours or mines car nut conscienceness. It just get's put to the side a little. C'mon as much as we like to see and hear a big block come rumbling down the highway, you always get a smile on your face when you hear that nice tight 1835 buzz by you too!!!

G-TX
01-28-2007, 06:14 PM
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif
http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=279
There is a ton of mis-information about VWs out there.There are plenty of 2275 and 2332 C.C. daily driver Type 1 powered VWs out there.Several in my area alone.One is a 2332 with CB injection,and many 48 IDA Weber and Dellorto 48 carbed ones.
http://www.dkpcarclub.com/
Check out the Members cars.I go to their big June event every couple of years.Folks from around the globe are there for it.
As far as Type IV...they came stock 2 liter in the bus and 912/914 Porsche,so I have seen a 3 Liter stroker.
Here's a Cookbook....my little 1776 is in there...
http://www.geocities.com/enginecookbook/menu.htm
One thing I will say is,a hi-po VW is not cheap,you have to love them to do it.It cost the same to build a good VW engine as a SBC...:)
I do like being able to pull the engine in 30 min. and throw the longblock VW up on the workbench though...

cadpro
01-28-2007, 06:18 PM
C'mon as much as we like to see and hear a big block come rumbling down the highway, you always get a smile on your face when you hear that nice tight 1835 buzz by you too!!!

Nothing like the sound of 48ida's and straight cut cam gears, right? Pulling the hammer on a 600 h.p. turbo type 1 on the dyno also gets the blood racing too!

That's why I've vowed never to get rid of my '60. 1) my wife would kill me 2) my dad would kill me (he regrets to this day for getting rid of a '60 vette for $2000 and "making a killing" 3) my step-mom would kill me. So if ever I did get rid of it for pursuit of other prjects, I'd be dead!

novanutcase
01-28-2007, 06:19 PM
One thing I will say is,a hi-po VW is not cheap,you have to love them to do it.It cost the same to build a good VW engine as a SBC...:)
I do like being able to pull the engine in 30 min. and throw the longblock VW up on the workbench though...

Yup....I built my 2 liter in my upstairs bedroom when I lived with my parents. My mom kept nagging me about how it would never run and that I had to have pro to do it right, yada yada yada! You should have seen her face when the motor lit up after one pull on the key!

G-TX
01-28-2007, 06:30 PM
http://www.germanlook.com/
Some of my VW friends run this site...if you want a corner carver VW check them out...:drive1: