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Taylor1969
11-12-2006, 07:43 AM
Hi,

I am wondering if the following kit will work on my Camaro. The engine is a 383 stroker GEN1 SBC... I am not sure what year the block is (does that matter). The engine doesn't have any of the accessories or a water pump, so if this kit works it would be perfect. Thanks for the help.

http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/results.cfm?addtocart=1&addpartnumber=12497697&singlepart=1&partnumber=12497697

This GM Performance Parts Deluxe Serpentine Accessory Belt Drive System without air conditioner includes all the components needed to install on small-block Chevrolet engines. The bolts, nuts, spacers and braces are included with the following major items:

10055800 Secondary air injector pump bracket
10129569 Idler belt pulley bracket
88894005 Water pump kit
10055880 Water pump pulley
10055879 Crankshaft pulley
10463172 Generator assembly 105 amp(reman.)
12117361 Generator connector (with lead)
10055798 Drive belt tensioner assembly
10085752 Belt (fan, water pump, A/C pump, and generator)
10105212 Generator & power ateering bracket
26010328 Power steering pump
14102096 Power steering pump pulley

TPI Monte SS
11-12-2006, 12:56 PM
It will work fine, the only possible problem will be if you have very early cylinder heads with only 2 threaded holes for accessory brackets. Then you would have to drill/tap the head to mount one of the studs. If your 383 has aftermarket or post '70-something heads on it, you'll be fine.

Of course, if you're close to an auto recycler, you can buy the exact same setup off a junked '88-'92 Caprice or F-body for much less than that price. That's the same system I have on my car; scored off a totalled '89 T/A for $100.

Taylor1969
11-12-2006, 06:32 PM
It will work fine, the only possible problem will be if you have very early cylinder heads with only 2 threaded holes for accessory brackets. Then you would have to drill/tap the head to mount one of the studs. If your 383 has aftermarket or post '70-something heads on it, you'll be fine.

Of course, if you're close to an auto recycler, you can buy the exact same setup off a junked '88-'92 Caprice or F-body for much less than that price. That's the same system I have on my car; scored off a totalled '89 T/A for $100.

Awesome! I will check into exactly what you said.

Taylor1969
11-13-2006, 10:20 AM
I did more reading and it says that kit comes with a reverse rotation water pump. Is this kit expecting the pulley's to spin counter clockwise or something? Just want to make sure that this is the correct setup for the SBC.

Taylor1969
11-13-2006, 10:21 AM
By the way... these kits are going for about $150 used on ebay.

TPI Monte SS
11-13-2006, 12:12 PM
I did more reading and it says that kit comes with a reverse rotation water pump. Is this kit expecting the pulley's to spin counter clockwise or something? Just want to make sure that this is the correct setup for the SBC.

Yes, it does spin the waterpump counterclockwise, so you need the reverse rotation pump.

JJSmitches
11-13-2006, 12:20 PM
I have this kit on my Chevelle, picked it up new from another person on the board. It works great but doesnt look as nice as some of the other aftermarket stuff.

Taylor1969
11-13-2006, 03:30 PM
Yes, it does spin the waterpump counterclockwise, so you need the reverse rotation pump.

Ok. I was just making sure that it would work correctly with my old style SBC (for cooling, etc).

I plan to pick one of the used kits off of ebay and spend my money on an aftermarket pump.

Thanks to TPI Monte SS, with the money that I have leftover I can probably get a hydroboost setup!!!:wrc:

Chad-1stGen
11-13-2006, 04:10 PM
The flow of coolant doesn't change, just the direction the impeller spins. This is because of the routing of the serpentine belt system and has nothing to do with it being a 1st gen SBC.

TPI Monte SS
11-13-2006, 05:16 PM
Ok. I was just making sure that it would work correctly with my old style SBC (for cooling, etc).

I plan to pick one of the used kits off of ebay and spend my money on an aftermarket pump.

Thanks to TPI Monte SS, with the money that I have leftover I can probably get a hydroboost setup!!!:wrc:

No problem man, that's what we're here for. :git: I just cleaned my brackets up with brakeparts cleaner, then rattlecanned them with Krylon Cast Aluminum finish paint; looks stock and clean. I shot all the pulleys with semi-gloss black and put it all together. Chad is right on the money; the coolant still flows through the engine the same way direction, but the impeller is reversed inside the waterpump to account for the direction the crank pulley spins it. Here's a pic of my motor on the stand with the brackets installed.

DeltaT
11-13-2006, 06:50 PM
You can pull the whole setup off like a 90 Camaro or Firebird and save $$$. I did that and smoothed out the casting flash on the large pieces, then had them all glass beaded ($14), then painted them with VHT CLear and baked them per the directions. Result - a custom looking matte finish aluminum setup that is very clean. Total was about $150 including a new belt. I did use a new Edlebrock aluminum water pump though which added like $100.

Jim

CarlC
11-13-2006, 08:52 PM
Does anyone have a photo of the dummy A/C pulley installed?

gmachinz
11-18-2006, 07:55 AM
Or, you can also use 4.3 V6 brackets too. That's what I used for mine. You need to notch the smog pump lower bracket for use with a mech. fuel pump-no biggie. On my 1970 350 block, 6 of the eight holes lined up for mounting on both sides. Now, this is on a 3rd gen. Monte but to retain the AC, you can use the 307 olds or 3.8 Buick AC hose sets also. But then, you need to get the donor 307 or 3.8 condensor too since the inlet/outlet is on the pass. side. This only applies to G-bodies however-you Camaro will be different in this regard. -Jabin

JJSmitches
11-18-2006, 03:31 PM
There is a pic on this page of the A/C delete bracket thing installed, but the belt is not yet on completely.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2103364/3

3rd pic down, added this.

CarlC
11-19-2006, 12:09 AM
Thanks!

CamaroAJ
11-21-2006, 04:20 PM
any GM 1500, 2500 or 3500 with a small block will also work. there the same as the ones on the 4.3 in the S/T body trucks.

yousef
10-12-2010, 01:02 AM
i have Gen 5 BB on my Camaro 1970 SS
what Serpentine Accessory Belt Drive System do you think well fit

TD509EFI
10-12-2010, 07:56 PM
yousef,

GM makes a serpentine setup for big blocks, but I find it's big, heavy, and rather ugly. You can use the small block setup that's being mentioned, but you will have to do a little bracket making. Here's the link if your interested:

http://www.fidnet.com/~harleyms/serpentine%20page.htm

There are many aftermarket setups that will fit big block Chevy's such as your Gen V, but they'll cost you a lot more.

John

RatMalibu
10-19-2010, 05:38 PM
yousef,

GM makes a serpentine setup for big blocks, but I find it's big, heavy, and rather ugly. You can use the small block setup that's being mentioned, but you will have to do a little bracket making. Here's the link if your interested:

http://www.fidnet.com/~harleyms/serpentine%20page.htm

There are many aftermarket setups that will fit big block Chevy's such as your Gen V, but they'll cost you a lot more.

John

man my little "how to" sure gets alot of travel lol

TD509EFI
10-21-2010, 01:59 PM
Hey Matt,

That was a good write up...well done!

John

Chad-1stGen
10-21-2010, 02:09 PM
For everyone thinking about picking up one of these kits of an oem application I recommend you shoot for either an extended cab half ton or a 3/4 ton truck from the early 90's. These trucks were heavy enough to be smog pump exempt and have a much cleaner bracket design rather than running a filler pulley in the smog pump bracket location.

thefanisback
11-14-2010, 09:09 AM
Has anyone ran into the problem of this kit having,a/c radial compressor clearance problems with a GM SS hood on a 1968 Chevelle 396. I have ZERO clearance ,and have replaced all Body mounts.

thefanisback
11-14-2010, 09:35 AM
*sorry,I meant to post a reply to the thread*....Has anyone ran into the problem of this kit having,a/c radial compressor clearance problems with a GM SS hood on a 1968 Chevelle 396. I have ZERO clearance ,and have replaced all Body mounts.

drc270
12-04-2010, 07:27 AM
I used mid 90s truck system with A/C looks and works great w/ powder coated parts
You will also need REVERSE ROTATION FAN with that pump.