G-body Roll Call

[jevonniespapi]

79 Monte checkin in.

New to this site.

Ive done countless searches already, but I am not comming up with much.

The most fabrication/build work that i have seen has been going into the prestigious 69 that is not in my budget right now.

So I think that as far as build threads, I will probably have to do my research else where.

Is there a "THE ULTIMATE G-BODY RESOURCE" thread?

Small list of what will happen to my project:
Cage, better chassis, ford 9", fabricated dash/console, LSsomething, M6, not sure on wheels, lots of the chrome trim removed/need fab advice, bumpers are a BIG issue, as they are warped, they just look cheesy anyways, disks all around, something done to make the heater/ac unit look more eye pleasing w/out deleting from vehicle.

I want this car to be killer bad ass. Not sure if i can achieve that on my own, so that is why i got an account with the site that has some of the most bad ass cars i have seen!

-Jay

[Norm Peterson]

When you read any of the build threads for other chassis, read them for ideas and general approaches to solving problems rather than for exact details. It won't be like keeping your copy of "How to Build Your SBC" with all of the numbers in front of you while you assemble your own 350.

Have you looked at the $5000 Mustang thread? I'd have said "take a quick look", except that's probably impossible.

If you really want the car to be KBA, plan on doing a few things "outside the box". Maybe many things. And once you start custom-fabbing, the specific vehicle that you're working with probably doesn't matter much.

If the plans are to take the direction of this car's build off on a path less travelled, there may not be much in the way of specific information available at this point - yours might end up being the build thread that others crib from.

See if you can pin things down a bit closer than simply "better chassis". Arguably, that's going to be where you have to start.

With respect to a cage in a street-driven car (I am assuming that you're planning on driving this KBA car once it's up and running), be very careful. Even padded cage tubing does not constitute surfaces unfriendly to unhelmeted heads - and it occupies space that said heads would try to occupy when things start going all wrong. If you aren't going to be involved in an area of competition that has specific cage requirements, there may be less intrusive solutions that would add some chassis strength/stiffness.

Which suggests the next question - do you have any specific performance goals and/or primary use in mind at this point?


Norm

[NOT A TA]

jevonniespapi, check out Maliburacing.com for cage and chassis stuff

[Norm Peterson]

Just keep in mind that maliburacing is primarily oriented to drag racing. There are a few of us cornering-enthusiast types over there, but only a few. Same goes for Montecarloss.com.

You might want to look over at www.scandc.com for some stuff that's available for the G-body. Mark (aka Marcus) is a sponsor here and one of the good guys.


Norm

[ls6monte]

Just joined myself.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2151623
Been too lazy to update it! Sorry lol

[ACLR8R]

Another newb checking in.
'86 Gn
QA1s
Poly front end
36mm sway
UMI's rear LCA's


Just starting to make it handle :)

[aeroocoupe]

87 monte carlo ss aerocoupe with a 1970 Lt-1 355 sb 400hp+ wc t-5 trans to add to the fun factor. Hotchkis tubular upper A-arm with the TVS system. Kyb shocks and running 245/45/17 ft and 275/40/17 rear. 12"brakes up front and s10 wheel cylinder in the rear.

[SRTOutlaw]

Its not done yet obviously. But I give you the flying Purple Geo eater, A.K.A. the purple nurple.:1st:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC6hXX8uog0

[ls6monte]

85 Monte SS here.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/01/Picture1014-1.jpg
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[Doober]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/01/81Malibu028-1.jpg
Not bad :D I like it, it's different. Kind of makes me think of a Ford Fairmont:
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[NOT A TA]

Now THATS funny Doober! It does look like a fairmont with the grill painted like that. I painted the original grill the same way back in the mid 90's the first time I painted the car. Good thing I didn't put the wide wheelwell moldings back on this time!

[Doober]

What did you do to get the bulge in the hood like that? I like it too :idea:

[NOT A TA]

The hood is from a turbo Buick, not sure what year.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/11/81Malibu022-1.jpg

[Tony_SS]

85 Monte SS here.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/01/Picture1014-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/01/Picture1001-1.jpg

looks good... any more/larger pics?

[Doober]

The hood is from a turbo Buick, not sure what year.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/11/81Malibu022-1.jpg
I was curious how much work was involved, did you gain any clearance?

[first64]

79 Malibu
350 sb
700r4
3.73 posi
Hotchkis UCA's
Hotchkis Rear Upper and lower
Hotchkis sway bars front & rear
Edelbrock shocks
Hotchkis lowering springs front & rear
F-41 frame braces
B-body 1LE front brakes
XH steering box
Poly body mounts


I'm thinking about going to the LS1 brakes front & rear
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[Dstoltenberg]

Just picked up an 83 regal to drive until my Skylark is done...It Will be getting some spare performance parts I had laying around, along with my spare built 350/th350 The weekend after next.

[NOT A TA]

I was curious how much work was involved, did you gain any clearance?

The inner support doesn't allow more clearance in the center for a NA car. It appears the inner structure was designed to give more clearance for turbo tubing that was offset toward the drivers side. I just put the hood on because I thought it'd look cool and I think the stock hood looks too much lower than the trunk on the bu's for a flat hood (IMO) when you look at the car from the side. When I put a real engine in it to replace the 229 I may cut out some of the inner structure if more clearance is needed for the air cleaner.

Just so you know, the hood is not a simple bolt on. The body lines in the Buick hood don't line up with the header. The rear corners of the hood need to be massaged to line up with the Malibu fenders at the cowl. There's also a height difference between the header and the Buick hood and the leading edge of the hood is set back about 1/4" compared with a Malibu. So some creative, artistic type bodywork needs to be done to the header to build it up to the hood at the gap, mold in the body lines, and extend it back toward the hood to narrow the gap.

[Doober]

Oh I didn't realize it was an actual Regal hood :rolleyes:

[NOT A TA]

Oh I didn't realize it was an actual Regal hood :rolleyes:

Yup, a bud parked next to me at work one day with his Turbo Regal and when I looked at the cars side by side it hit me. So I grabbed a tape measure and measured them both. Decided to take a chance and buy a hood figuring I could resell it if I decided it was going to be too much of a project.

[Doober]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/01/81Malibu028-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/DSC00907-1.jpg

It doesn't look like there's a whole lot of difference in the two, do you have any pictures before/during?

[ls6monte]

looks good... any more/larger pics?

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/Picture205-1.jpg
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[montessaj]

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I love this Monte. Centerline Matrix wheels right?

[ls6monte]

Thanks! and yes they are the Centerline Matrix. They have been on the car since 2003. They look cool and I haven't seen them on any other vehicle in my area.

[Tony_SS]

Thanks! and yes they are the Centerline Matrix. They have been on the car since 2003. They look cool and I haven't seen them on any other vehicle in my area.

Give it some time... others will copy.

[montessaj]

Give it some time... others will copy.


Hey! I said I was sorry! Geezz..... Thanks for the idea Tony!:idea:

[nowukno]

My 79 malibu,a work in progress

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[Doober]

These are new to me, looks like it's coming along nicely :D Post 'em on MR!!!!

[meadb01]

Here's my little turbo project. KeWl...first post here :-) A lot left to do on it, but its getting done slowly but surely. Decided to put a little time into an 81 trans am project at the moment, so the malibu is getting minimal time for the past month :idea:

Very impressed with this board... a huge support group and knowledge base here!

Thanks,

William

[80proZ]

81 malibu here, and while were on the subject i need to know if a frame from any g-body will fit my mali?

[Doober]

Any coupe or 4-door will fit, the frame horns (for the bumpers) may be different, but they're not too difficult to change. Wagons fit wagons, and El Caminos fit El Caminos.

[Radlark]

I just picked this one up for $700, it has a 267 it is a Cutlass Supreme Brougham so it had all the bells and whistles power this and that!

How hard would it be to put a small black Chevy in this car? I have to keep it smog legal though (well I would like to, lol)

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[78 Type-LT]

I just picked this one up for $700, it has a 267 it is a Cutlass Supreme Brougham so it had all the bells and whistles power this and that!

How hard would it be to put a small black Chevy in this car? I have to keep it smog legal though (well I would like to, lol)

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As easy as unbolting the 267 & bolting in a 350 + small block in..

[Radlark]

Same motor mounts and frame mounts and all? Even if it is the Oldsmobile version of the 267? Please forgive my ignorance as this is all new to me regarding this body/frame style.

[Doober]

I'm pretty sure the only 267 for that year range is a Chevrolet motor, and yes, everything will bolt up. You can go with a set of Vortec heads, GMPP carbed Vortec intake with EGR, a somewhat mild cam (something like this (http://www.compcams.com/Cam_Specs/CamDetails.aspx?csid=84&sb=2) probably), and if you can swing running a set of headers, something like these (http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BIG-91832FLT/) so you can keep EGR (there is no EGR built into a Vortec head). With a setup like that you'll probably have around 315-330hp.

[RatMalibu]

could be an Olds 260 V-8 as well if you are just guessin by the liter displacement.....does it look like a chevy or an Olds? ;)

Doober....you have too much free time to hang around all these forums

[Doober]

You're right :( If I had a job I wouldn't be here... as much ;)

[Radlark]

Actually it is the olds 260, does that make it more difficult? Do I need to get the frame mounts from a Malibu?

[Doober]

Check out www.oldspower.com. Another G-Body Olds owner that comes to mind is Shotgun (I think he's on here, if not, he's here (http://www.maliburacing.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=3895)), he may be able to answer some of your questions.

[78 Type-LT]

I vote for a 350 olds..

Yes tha frame mounts a different..

[youngdeezy]

new guy with 83 cutlass doing a lt1 swap and i need help

[NOT A TA]

You're right :( If I had a job I wouldn't be here... as much ;)

Me Either! LOL

[78 Type-LT]

new guy with 83 cutlass doing a lt1 swap and i need help
http://gbodyforum.com/

[youngdeezy]

http://gbodyforum.com/

im on gf already, the reason i posted here was to find local help not online info but thanks for trying bro. i know theres a lt1 g-body guy who posted a nor cal topic so im trying to connect with him and meet any other locals as well

[Samckitt]

new guy with 83 cutlass doing a lt1 swap and i need help

I think you are the guy that emailed me through YouTube. As for the fuel system, try and find a fuel tank and sender from an injected Monte or Buick. Change the pump to a high pressure pump (unless you get from a turbo Buick, then use it as is). Replace the rubber lines with high pressure lines and double clamp and you are good to go.

[jack]

another g body fan

[Radlark]

another g body fan

Nice!!

[SicMonte]

15 pages....i am impressed!!!!

[jack]

So who all is in my area?

[ChassisPro]

Man, don't know how I missed this thread for all these years. Anyway I've got 2 GN's. I have an 86 with T-tops and an 87 Hardtop.

[Radlark]

I just picked this one up for $700, it has a 267 it is a Cutlass Supreme Brougham so it had all the bells and whistles power this and that!

How hard would it be to put a small black Chevy in this car? I have to keep it smog legal though (well I would like to, lol)

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Just sold it! And I picked up a 1978 Buick Regal all original from the 2nd owner (was in the family) will post pics later

[canadiantbone]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/01/81Malibu028-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/02/DSC00907-1.jpg

It doesn't look like there's a whole lot of difference in the two, do you have any pictures before/during?
there is about a 1/2 - 3/4" difference between the 78/79 Turbo hood & the malibu header .

[youngdeezy]

hey guys do we have any gbody threads that have "whats mods have you done" type of topic around here. if not 1 should be started or we can start it inside of here. i see some nice rides in this topic and wondering what mods have you done.

[71RS/SS396]

I have a 79 Malibu in my stable I wish I had some pics on my puter, I'll have to get some next time I'm at the storage building. Mine has Hotchkis springs,sway bars, and rear control arms,Baer brakes, LS-1 with a magna charger, 4L-60 and GN rear, 18" Budniks.
Tim

[CRCRFT78]

I have a 79 Malibu in my stable I wish I had some pics on my puter, I'll have to get some next time I'm at the storage building. Mine has Hotchkis springs,sway bars, and rear control arms,Baer brakes, LS-1 with a magna charger, 4L-60 and GN rear, 18" Budniks

Yeah your going to have to post some pics up of this one.

[jack]

another g body fan

this is how my car looks now

[ProTouring79Malibu]

79 malibu protouring 565 bb 6 spd

[notagn]

hhoooooooraaaaaaaaaa

[Eggy44]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/10/IMG_0397-1.jpg
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Love the stance on that elky!! what lower control arms are you running and what sway bar is that?

[nowukno]

Love the stance on that elky!! what lower control arms are you running and what sway bar is that?
Thanks for the kind words,The lower control arms are UMI and the sway bar is a edelbrock tubular/hallow 35mm bar.

[uneek1976]

86 Regal Limited and a newbie to the site too!!!!!:)

An update on my Limited.:smoke:
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[Doober]

Yup... new wheels look much more better-like :D

[youngdeezy]

heres my update

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[killer69]

just picked this up a month ago, it will be our mule car for developing all the suspension components

comming soon.

plans are for a full Track Time Package
upper and lower tubular control arms
afx spindles
Chicane coil over conversion
1.25 front sway bar
14" Baer pro plus
18" Forgelines
coil over conversion in the rear
Articulink rear trailing arms
adjustable sway bar

there is an option to put a torque arm in the car as well, the GNX came with a torque arm so ???

[IrvJr]

Here's my 86 T Type WH1.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2009/03/WH1ScottWatts-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/07/angiespic056-1.jpg

[SicMonte]

I just put up a ton of pics in the project updates thread...."project Sicmonte". Check em out.

[IrvJr]

That Elky is sic. Nice work!

[Small Block LSX]

Just joined this crew a few weeks ago. :)

[Mudweizer]

I own a 1978 Buick Regal.

[DreamSpeedPerf.]

I got just about the ugliest one here! :(
Just parked after blowing another tranny( 2 in one month) so I'm gonna start doing my tranny swap to go manual as soon as I change the input shaft on a ford t5 that was given to me.https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/08/37437_402608294211_558649211_455011-1.jpg
I was sitting staggered for while but got tired of the rubbing in the back and I don't have a fender roller.
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now that it's parked ill be doing a lot to it.. starting with cleaning up the bay and removing that big ugly a/c and going with a Vintage air systemhttps://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/09/IMG00094201006291351-1.jpg

[tbrown1984monte]

Hi from a newb. Currently my 3rd Monte SS in the 83-88 generation. Had a gun metal blue 84, black 88, and now a white 84.

[CraigMorrison]

Holley is doing a G body project - we have the car at our shop right now!

[CRCRFT78]

Holley is doing a G body project - we have the car at our shop right now!

Which one, the Elco or the GP that they're building for the LS Fest? I've been trying to find any info on them but haven't had any luck. I can't wait to see what they unveil for these two projects. Any pics?

[Samckitt]

Holley is doing a G body project - we have the car at our shop right now!

Cool, please keep us updated on that. You building a frame for it with Vette suspension? :drool:

[Dstoltenberg]

Finished my regal, and sold it for a profit :cheers:
Too bad the kid I sold it to blew up the new Buick 350 2 weeks later and is swapping in an SBC :sick:

[tsnhl247]

Newbie to posting. 86 Cutlass supreme

[Tony_SS]

Holley is doing a G body project - we have the car at our shop right now!
More info! Links? any other details?

[galeaiii]

1986 SS Monte here

[RKHiPerformance]

May have posted in this thread previously...:dunno: I can't remember.

We have a 1984 Monte SS that we recently updated with a ZZ502, TKO-600, a built GN rear, Metco rear suspension, and Baer brakes. Lotsa other stuff too...

Crappy cell phone pic:

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/09/MM12011-1.jpg

[malibu43]

hi,from chile to the world,of course my 80 bu its for road course.
regards

[Norm Peterson]

Jorge from maliburacing, right?

How's the car coming along/doing?


Norm

[71RS/SS396]

79 bu
LS-1, magna charger, hotchkis suspension, baer brakes, gn rear, budnik wheels.

81 sleeper wagon
540, T-400 w/4,000 stall, 9" w/ 4:10, steel wheels and police car caps.

[CraigMorrison]

http://www.facebook.com/#!/album.php?aid=21834&id=101846653183796&ref=mf

Here's a link to the AME Facebook album that has some pics of the G body that Holley is building. Pretty amazing car; it was one of the GM cars that was sold at BJ - vin 00001 and 50 miles on the odometer. Another 20 miles were put onto it while at Holley and then it was taken apart and shipped out to us.

We are reverse-engineering a new chassis for it right now and it is going to be Holley's track day car. Out of all the cars I have seen come through the shop over the years this has to be one of the cleanest cars we have ever started with. It's a brand new car that just happens to be 23 years old.

[krakabash]

'85 Monte Carlo w/350

[whitess]

I keep forgetting to put up pictures of mine. (sadly I'm going to sell it):

http://s530.photobucket.com/home/whitess1

[dodge29]

1965 Dodge Dart, no hemis, no 3rd gen stuff, good old fashion R3 race engine......440+ cubic inch small blk.....
Luke aka Dodge29

ps, years of dirt stock car racing, my number was always 29, my daughter's was 24....

[ArtosDracon]

I'm pretty sure it's just been GM- G-bodies up till now, but heck, why not let the mopar guys in too. :)

[85GPLEf41]

Holley is doing a G body project - we have the car at our shop right now!


Any more pics? I am excited with the Grand Prix build up. Seeing as the G body Grand Prix is usually the least popular of the G bodies....

[CRCRFT78]

Craig I hit you up on FB. Does this mean there will be a new AM G-body frame in the near future?

[MAP]

Greetings,

My first post at pro-touring.com! The facebook photo is of a CMM (coordinate-measuring machine or device,) no doubt to capture key locations along the chassis to check against factory specifications. Here is a link to a recent discussion of an aftermarket rolling chassis for an A/G body platform at montecarloss.com that you may find interesting:

http://www.montecarloss.com/community/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=811908&page=1

On edit: I got linked to this thread out of a discussion about the AME rolling chassis. Going back and seeing now that this thread is ostensibly about gauging the A/G population out here, I'll add that I've owned four of these cars over the decades: a 1978 4-door Malibu, a 1981 Grand Prix LJ, a 1978 Malibu coupe, and now a 1981 Monte Carlo (soon to be an SS clone with quasi unibody configuration, bulged quarters and fenders for wider wheels, and with front wheels shifted forward.)

Best,
MAP

[Tony_SS]

http://www.facebook.com/#!/album.php?aid=21834&id=101846653183796&ref=mf (http://www.facebook.com/#%21/album.php?aid=21834&id=101846653183796&ref=mf)

Here's a link to the AME Facebook album that has some pics of the G body that Holley is building. Pretty amazing car; it was one of the GM cars that was sold at BJ - vin 00001 and 50 miles on the odometer. Another 20 miles were put onto it while at Holley and then it was taken apart and shipped out to us.

We are reverse-engineering a new chassis for it right now and it is going to be Holley's track day car. Out of all the cars I have seen come through the shop over the years this has to be one of the cleanest cars we have ever started with. It's a brand new car that just happens to be 23 years old.

Awesome... what a great project. Can't wait to see how it turns out.

[somcamaross]

Greetings,

My first post at pro-touring.com! The facebook photo is of a CMM (coordinate-measuring machine or device,) no doubt to capture key locations along the chassis to check against factory specifications. Here is a link to a recent discussion of an aftermarket rolling chassis for an A/G body platform at montecarloss.com that you may find interesting:

http://www.montecarloss.com/community/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=811908&page=1

On edit: I got linked to this thread out of a discussion about the AME rolling chassis. Going back and seeing now that this thread is ostensibly about gauging the A/G population out here, I'll add that I've owned four of these cars over the decades: a 1978 4-door Malibu, a 1981 Grand Prix LJ, a 1978 Malibu coupe, and now a 1981 Monte Carlo (soon to be an SS clone with bulged quarters and fenders for wider wheels.)

Best,
MAP

Great to see you over here, MAP!:cheers:

[Granny 5]

A couple of mine from past years. Lost the White one after 8 years! Make sure you have the proper insurance coverage to protect your investment!!! We lost a bunch of money by trusting our insurance guy and just carrying "FULL COVERAGE"!

[John S]

Welcome aboard MAP, great to see another Monte advocate over here! What took you so long :)

[Tony_SS]

A couple of mine from past years. Lost the White one after 8 years! Make sure you have the proper insurance coverage to protect your investment!!! We lost a bunch of money by trusting our insurance guy and just carrying "FULL COVERAGE"!

Thats horrible. How did that fire start?

[malihoochie]

I'm pretty sure it's just been GM- G-bodies up till now, but heck, why not let the mopar guys in too. :)

Haha

[MAP]

Greetings,

Somcamaross and John S - many thanks for the welcome. Posting on different web sites can be an incredible time sink, so I frequent extremely few.

Question for Craig Morrison/AME: if you wouldn't view it in the realm of proprietary information, would you please share any stiffness measurements on the stock chassis? Torsional stiffness about the car's CL longitudinal axis, and between the front and rear axle locations, would be of key interest. My opinion is that the stock chassis is woefully limp, and mostly because of those flimsy C-channel side rails in the mid section of the frame. Also, as I recall, the fundamental vertical resonance of the body mass on the frame (lambda/2 deflection mode,) was down in the 15-18Hz range. Again, a woefully low number for anything other than a cushy boulevard cruiser.

Best,
MAP

[Norm Peterson]

We did have some discussion on the chassis stiffness topic a while back and a few crude-ish numbers came out of it but no confirmation.

Linky (https://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56150)


And welcome to visibility (took ya long enough to start posting :poke: )


Norm

[MAP]

Thanks, Norm!

I don't know my way around here at all, so that link is a good inducement for me not to take this thread too far adrift.

Best,
MAP

[Granny 5]

Thats horrible. How did that fire start?

Not really sure. We were driving down the highway and don't even know how long it had been on fire before it filled the interior with choking smoke. By the time we were stopped and out of the car it was blazing. So hot it melted the front wheels and lead from the "A" pillar. Very heartbreaking. Car was a birthday present from my wife a couple of years after having to sale my first GN early in our marriage to make ends meet. After about 8 years of tweaking it was my pride and joy. Ran low 11's and could drive it home with the a/c on while getting 20+ mpg. Very fun car!

[CraigMorrison]

Craig I hit you up on FB. Does this mean there will be a new AM G-body frame in the near future?

This chassis is part of our custom bolt-on chassis program. Because of the rendering and the customer's request we are also stretching the wheelbase by 3". What they have done is moved the front wheels forward in the fender by the 3". IMO it really makes this car look good!


We do have some really great data on these cars now!

[CraigMorrison]

Greetings,

Somcamaross and John S - many thanks for the welcome. Posting on different web sites can be an incredible time sink, so I frequent extremely few.

Question for Craig Morrison/AME: if you wouldn't view it in the realm of proprietary information, would you please share any stiffness measurements on the stock chassis? Torsional stiffness about the car's CL longitudinal axis, and between the front and rear axle locations, would be of key interest. My opinion is that the stock chassis is woefully limp, and mostly because of those flimsy C-channel side rails in the mid section of the frame. Also, as I recall, the fundamental vertical resonance of the body mass on the frame (lambda/2 deflection mode,) was down in the 15-18Hz range. Again, a woefully low number for anything other than a cushy boulevard cruiser.

Best,
MAP

MAP- Thanks for the question! No, it's not proprietary info, but to be honest we haven't done any calculations on the stock chassis because it is so horrible. When we were measuring the chassis with the Faro arm, just mounting the arm onto the chassis was causing it to deflect. We had to add extra supports under the frame to keep the 30# of the Faro arm from deflecting the chassis and creating errors in the measurement data!

With the chassis supported by jack stands under the housing you can hold the rear passenger rail in one hand and lift and visually see the deflection all the way up to the front suspension crossmember. I know that this is pretty anecdotal evidence but we've never seen a chassis that has been this weak.

It is pretty apparent that it's sole purpose is to locate the bumpers and suspension points and the body is providing the chassis strength.

You are extremely correct when you say that the chassis is woefully limp!

[Doober]

I can't wait to see the frame... I'd asked if it's going to be along the same lines of the MaxG style chassis, but I'm not sure if you'd responded yet. Regardless I'm sure it will be way beyond the capacity of any stock G-Body frame! I'd love to be able to fit wide tires at all 4 corners (definitely not easy in the front), do you think it may be possible with this new frame?

[Samckitt]

Craig, what type front suspension are you putting on this?

[67rstbkt]

I just picked up a g-body for a daily driver and mini-project. I guess my Firebird build just wasn't enough. I think I have a sickness.......
Anyway, here it is in all it's glory; a 1983 Grand Prix
I took the rollers off of my firebird and threw them on there. I'm thinking 275/60/15 rears and 235/60/15 fronts and paint the thing hot rod black. What do you guys think?

[CraigMorrison]

Craig, what type front suspension are you putting on this?


They wanted a 3-link in the rear and we are using our "Sport IFS" up front.


I haven't seen the chassis design yet, so I'm not sure if it is a MaxG style or not. As soon as I see it I will let you know.

[MAP]

Hi Craig,

Amazing! My plan is quasi unibody conversion, bulged quarters and fenders for wider tires, front wheels 1.7-4" more forward, and 3-link at the rear with a Watt's link. The Monte Carlo body style accommodates the bulging and the front-wheel relocation surprisingly well, as renditions show: you have to look at before and after pictures two or three times, and even then, the differences are difficult to detect - the car simply looks like it came that way from the factory, since the stock crease lines in the body suggest a reality waiting to happen...

Previous measurements showed the body to be a good deal more rigid than the frame - agree here - I think that frame probably ran well down the production lines GM had at the time, and maybe that's why they used a bare minimum of a connection between the front and rear halves of that frame.

Not to try to pull too much attention from this thread, but a lively discussion of your frame is happening here:

http://www.montecarloss.com/community/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=829441#Post829441

On edit: I've got a 1981 Monte Carlo minus suspension, and up on jack stands, as I write this. The car is completely stock, and without even a trace of rust. The condition of the OE frame/body bushings is TBD, however. I'll try to take a torsional stiffness measurement on the frame in this condition over the next several days and report back. Edit 10/17/10: Got it. Without suspension, drivetrain, nor hood, the frame with all 14 OE body bushings attachment to body, measures 2,490 ft-lb/deg. I'd assign about a +/-5% tolerance to this measurement. If the car had all missing components installed, I suppose this number would have been a tad higher - maybe 2,600 ft-lb/deg? The frame, body, and even the bushings look essentially as-new (with 100% of the car's life lived in eastern San Diego, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.)

Best,
MAP

[mc84_zz4]

Well, this week there was an update on AME's facebook page.
There may still be some details or changes later, but this does look REAL tasty.
The little magic I would like to see, is if they can package the tri-link rear to still retain some form of rear seat, or if a triangulated 4-link may follow later...
Still, very exciting to see this project coming to market.
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You may need to login to see the album:
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/photo.php?fbid=165907926777668&set=a.149927711709023.21834.101846653183796&pid=282943&id=101846653183796

[Samckitt]

I am curious to know I'd they are narrowing the rear frame rails, what rear width tires will fit, what front suspension are they using, raer seat still usable? Are they going to sell this frame, how much?

[RKHiPerformance]

79 bu
LS-1, magna charger, hotchkis suspension, baer brakes, gn rear, budnik wheels.

81 sleeper wagon
540, T-400 w/4,000 stall, 9" w/ 4:10, steel wheels and police car caps.


Wagon pics, please!

[67rstbkt]

Here's an updated pic of my GP, still needs buffing:

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

[Doober]

I am curious to know I'd they are narrowing the rear frame rails, what rear width tires will fit, what front suspension are they using, raer seat still usable? Are they going to sell this frame, how much?

I was wondering about the rear seat myself with the 3-link. They did some test fitting yesterday/today it looks like.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

I also had asked about the rear tire, the reply was 335s, the fronts he would have to check on.

[somcamaross]

I am curious to know I'd they are narrowing the rear frame rails, what rear width tires will fit, what front suspension are they using, raer seat still usable? Are they going to sell this frame, how much?

x2!

[mc84_zz4]

I would be real interested in seeing how the packaging turns out for the rear-seat area.
I conclude that tubbing is soon to follow, possibly some trimming to clear the UCA.
About the front end: I hope they offer a set of wheel wells. That would
allow fatter tires, and to run much lower than the stock plastic wells.

[mc84_zz4]

Another tasty update:
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[Doober]

Indeed... I always get a mental woody when I see they've added pictures to the album on Facebook :D

[85GPLEf41]

I'm glad it's a Grand Prix! These cars seem to be overlooked often....Can't wait to see the finished project!

[somcamaross]

Nice Rack!!!:jawdrop::jawdrop::headbang:

[CraigMorrison]

I am curious to know I'd they are narrowing the rear frame rails, what rear width tires will fit, what front suspension are they using, raer seat still usable? Are they going to sell this frame, how much?


The chassis is designed to fit 335's, as this was the tire spec'd by Holley. Because this is a track-day car, they weren't really concerned about the rear seat, but if some of the center seat springs are trimmed, the rear seat should be able to fit back down. However, you probably wouldn't want to be riding in the middle and hit a bump. This car is also getting a full cage, so accessability to the rear seat will be difficult.

The chassis originally was a one-off reverse-engineering job for Holley. To be honest, I've been pretty blown away by the response that this chassis is getting on our FB site as well as on the forums.

It is definitely something we can do again, but pricing hasn't been discussed for another chassis. Also, the spec on this chassis was pretty high - remote reservoir Penske's, splined sway bars, 3-link, Woodward rack + reverse engineering and design time.

Now that we have the specs, I'm pretty confident that we could offer this chassis with either 3-link or tri 4-bar in the back and a few IFS designs up front. The tri 4-bar would definitely minimize sheetmetal removal in the back seat area as well.

[CraigMorrison]

I would be real interested in seeing how the packaging turns out for the rear-seat area.
I conclude that tubbing is soon to follow, possibly some trimming to clear the UCA.
About the front end: I hope they offer a set of wheel wells. That would
allow fatter tires, and to run much lower than the stock plastic wells.

All of these questions will be addressed when it leaves our shop and heads down to Bobby Walden's shop in So Cal. He's finishing the car (or at least doing the sheetmetal work) for Holley.

[CraigMorrison]

One thing to also remember -as per Holley's rendering, the wheelbase has been altered by 3 1/4" inches. They are moving the front wheels forward by this amount in the front fenders. IMO this makes the car look a lot better, and eliminates a lot of the front overhang on the nose. This wheelbase change is also going to do wonders on weight distribution. With a LS engine in place, the firewall is untouched and #1 cylinder is even with CL of the spindle. There is plenty of room to move the engine back so #1 plug or even the front of the engine could be made even with spindle CL. This wheelbase change also has done wonders for making room for the R&P and steering linkage.

[WS6]

So glad to see a GP getting some attention. I still have plans to build my own one day.

Craig, would the wheel base changes be needed to package the rack and pinion and really make a product that is worthy of the AME name or could you build a great frame that would fit under the factory sheet metal and appeal to more Gbody owners?

[CraigMorrison]

Good Question! Rack placement is the biggest issue. If we were to use the suspension the we designed for the A body, maybe.

[eldogg]

Yo! Yo!
79 El Camino (ELDOGG)

[GlockandRoll]

It's an 87 GN T-top, and is stock with a few minor bolt ons that are barely noticeable to the naked eye, including the audio system.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/12/GrandNational2711-1.jpg

These cars are capable of major power, even using the stock motor, my valve covers have never been off even. Here's what the performance mods include, which with a turbo car unlock it's power potential because its all about timing and boost.

For getting air into he car:

* bigmouth style cold air intake with KN filter outside he engine compartment in ambient air.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/12/SDC11601-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/12/SDC11602-1.jpg

* 25psi boost controll solenoid.
* Power plate spacer that helps the increased airflow and stops the back pistons from running lean.

For the ignition:

* Chip burned to increase timing and work with methanol
* injectors calibrated for increased flow
* high output fuel pump
* fuel pressure regulator
* Methanol injection system, the factory coolant reservoir has been moved to behind the bumper and a new stock OEM one is used. (you can see he braided stainless steel line going up on he left side of he intake, that's for the methanol)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/12/SDC11600-1.jpg

For the exhaust, the blow part:

* 3" down-pipe from he outlet side of he turbo
* high-flow cat convertor
* aluminized steel tubing with flowmaster mufflers

The reason you use methanol is for cooler engine operating temps and safety.
I could not run 25psi of boost (almost tire pressure) and then compress it in he motor w/out worrying about pre-ignition or detonation, which can blow the motor apart.
The computer uses the MAP sensor to turn the spray on progressively a 10psi, so when I'm putting around, just using vacuum and not turbo pressure, I not only get excellent MPG but I don't use the alcohol at all.

It's probably a high 11 second car on a track with sticky tires, like it sits now, low 12's should be easy... which blows the doors of most sports cars on the road today, here's a Dodge viper getting whipped by not one, but two GN's simultaneously.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlvo8J7ZBds

---- as for the stereo --- that's even more difficult to explain but I'll make it brief.
I've added a few things:

1. 91 GMC CD player (since GN's only came with cassette players)
2. 1/3rd octave trunk mounted EQ that allows me to tune he car digitally and control an iPod.
3. 600watt alpine amp under the front passenger seat.
4. pair of Focal high end neodymium mid-bass drivers in the doors in custom vinyl enclosures to look exactly like the factory concert sound speaker pods.
5. Image Dynamics waveguides under the dash for mid-treble that puts the sound stage up on top of the dash and separates the stereo image equally across the car.
6. the sub-woofer, is a vintage Polk audio C4, with 4 6x9' sub-woofers in a push-pull compound isobaric 3 chamber bandpass enclosure, it is very small and looks good in the trunk and only weighs 28 lbs but has the output of a pair of 12" sub-woofers. http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107642

Pics of the install here:
http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/members/glockandroll-albums-1987-buick-grand-national-install.html

[DreamSpeedPerf.]

haven't posted on the site in a while but just want to update on my g-body.
My Cutlass is now powered by a 430hp 355sbc with a lame little t-5 ... which i haven't decided if I'm going to rebuild it with a g-force kit or just go with a t-56...
I'm currently building a 383 that will be on boost for this car by then I'll most likely have my mind made up about the transmission..
but for now i have a lot on work on my hands between body work and suspension...but this is how it sit now..
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/01/P1020236-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/01/P1020220-1.jpg
color of the motor is somewhat the color i want to paint the car..
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/01/P1020206-1.jpg
painted the bay..
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/01/P1020183-1.jpg

still got a lot work ahead, but slowly getting there :smoke:

[KacyZ28]

Hey we ran into something the other night on the malibu I working on.The poly body mount kit we got said factory washer with sleeve and we dont have any.Did some cars come equipped with these or is this a good upgrade?

[GlockandRoll]

haven't posted on the site in a while but just want to update on my g-body.
My Cutlass is now powered by a 430hp 355sbc with a lame little t-5 ... which i haven't decided if I'm going to rebuild it with a g-force kit or just go with a t-56...
I'm currently building a 383 that will be on boost for this car by then I'll most likely have my mind made up about the transmission..
but for now i have a lot on work on my hands between body work and suspension...but this is how it sit now..

still got a lot work ahead, but slowly getting there :smoke:

That's going to be really cool, put a turbo on it! ;p

[JAWSS]

Im finally digging deeper into the performance side of the house. I was on here awhile back but didn't have the means to build a ride like I want, until now.

J

[heavybullet]

im here
85 buick t type

[jrm81bu]

Count me in. Car info is in my sig.

[calcutlass]

its been a minute butim still here.

[robsquezn]

time to get going on my g-body after the 66 is dune

[CruizinKev]

79 monte LS1 T56 project here (build thread in sig)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/10/Foto0512-1.jpg

[Runamok]

It's an 87 GN T-top, and is stock with a few minor bolt ons that are barely noticeable to the naked eye, including the audio system.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/12/GrandNational2711-1.jpg

These cars are capable of major power, even using the stock motor, my valve covers have never been off even. Here's what the performance mods include, which with a turbo car unlock it's power potential because its all about timing and boost.

For getting air into he car:

* bigmouth style cold air intake with KN filter outside he engine compartment in ambient air.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/12/SDC11601-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/12/SDC11602-1.jpg

* 25psi boost controll solenoid.
* Power plate spacer that helps the increased airflow and stops the back pistons from running lean.

For the ignition:

* Chip burned to increase timing and work with methanol
* injectors calibrated for increased flow
* high output fuel pump
* fuel pressure regulator
* Methanol injection system, the factory coolant reservoir has been moved to behind the bumper and a new stock OEM one is used. (you can see he braided stainless steel line going up on he left side of he intake, that's for the methanol)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2010/12/SDC11600-1.jpg

For the exhaust, the blow part:

* 3" down-pipe from he outlet side of he turbo
* high-flow cat convertor
* aluminized steel tubing with flowmaster mufflers

The reason you use methanol is for cooler engine operating temps and safety.
I could not run 25psi of boost (almost tire pressure) and then compress it in he motor w/out worrying about pre-ignition or detonation, which can blow the motor apart.
The computer uses the MAP sensor to turn the spray on progressively a 10psi, so when I'm putting around, just using vacuum and not turbo pressure, I not only get excellent MPG but I don't use the alcohol at all.

It's probably a high 11 second car on a track with sticky tires, like it sits now, low 12's should be easy... which blows the doors of most sports cars on the road today, here's a Dodge viper getting whipped by not one, but two GN's simultaneously.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlvo8J7ZBds

---- as for the stereo --- that's even more difficult to explain but I'll make it brief.
I've added a few things:

1. 91 GMC CD player (since GN's only came with cassette players)
2. 1/3rd octave trunk mounted EQ that allows me to tune he car digitally and control an iPod.
3. 600watt alpine amp under the front passenger seat.
4. pair of Focal high end neodymium mid-bass drivers in the doors in custom vinyl enclosures to look exactly like the factory concert sound speaker pods.
5. Image Dynamics waveguides under the dash for mid-treble that puts the sound stage up on top of the dash and separates the stereo image equally across the car.
6. the sub-woofer, is a vintage Polk audio C4, with 4 6x9' sub-woofers in a push-pull compound isobaric 3 chamber bandpass enclosure, it is very small and looks good in the trunk and only weighs 28 lbs but has the output of a pair of 12" sub-woofers. http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107642

Pics of the install here:
http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/members/glockandroll-albums-1987-buick-grand-national-install.html

That's a great list you've made and that looks like a really nice GN. But, you're not going to get out of the 13's with that after-market MAF. The OE one isn`t tapered. The one you have installed is one of the generic one-size-fits-all Pep Boys deals. Get a MAF translator and an LS1 MAF and you`ll be good to go.

[buboy496]

hi guys got a 80 bu 489ci bbc,tremac tko 600,9"ford 3.70 gears,17x8 ion 625 wheels umi perf front and rear tubular controll arms and sway bars,flaming river rack&pinion conversion,eibach springs frnt &rear,under construction,im in deep hopefully if i see 65 it will be worth something!!!!

[Tony_SS]

hi guys got a 80 bu 489ci bbc,tremac tko 600,9"ford 3.70 gears,17x8 ion 625 wheels umi perf front and rear tubular controll arms and sway bars,flaming river rack&pinion conversion,eibach springs frnt &rear,under construction,im in deep hopefully if i see 65 it will be worth something!!!!

Welcome - who cares what its worth, have fun. :)

Pics?

[TomT]

Hey Ralph - I'm working on a 79 Malibu

[CleanSupreme]

I'm here

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/02/IMG_20101024_155210-1.jpg

[robsquezn]

i have one but its still in the back off the shop hasnt made its way to the get some work finished part off the shop yet

[Doober]

Hey Tom, I met a guy up in Michigan with a 'Bu that looks identical to yours. It's an original 4-speed car that he bought from the original owner.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/05/DSC02531-1.jpg

[GlockandRoll]

That's a great list you've made and that looks like a really nice GN. But, you're not going to get out of the 13's with that after-market MAF. The OE one isn`t tapered. The one you have installed is one of the generic one-size-fits-all Pep Boys deals. Get a MAF translator and an LS1 MAF and you`ll be good to go.

You are absolutely right, I've got a stock one in it now. That ran but not sure where it came from, we mocked up the cold-air kit using it as it's the same length as the OEM one.

You sure know your Buicks to notice that!

[irregal83]

83 regal pro touring all the way! love those g bodies! i want to see more pictures of what everyone else is doing

[SRD art]

79 Cutlass wagon, link in sig. Oh, hi BTW.:)

[85GPLEf41]

Well its been awhile since i have have done any update for my 85 Grand Prix... BUT i finally picked up a 99 LS1 out of a Firebird...:smoke: I pick up my "built" up 4L60E tomorrow.Though i wished i would've waited and picked up a 04 GTO LS1/T56 combo for only 200.00 dollars more that came up a week later.....:6gears: Damn oh well! Guess i continue on my swap. Anyways here are some pics of my "new" engine.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/20110620191732-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/20110620191745-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/20110620191803-1.jpg
Oh and my GP:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/3d6638c7-1.jpg

[BulldawgMusclecars]

Not mine, but a project we did for a customer recently:

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/06/IMG_1015-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/05/IMG_0791-1.jpg

LS3 376/480hp crate engine, 4L70 GMPP trans, convertor, and controllers/harnesses - GMPP
Engine swap mounts, crossmember, and 1 7/8 long tube coated headers- BRP/MuscleRods

[SRD art]

Looked over the build thread, that wagon rocks!!

[WIKDCUT]

Count me in.

87 Cutlass

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/07/25784200001_large-1.jpg

[white79bu]

My car needs updated BAD. Its a 406, t56, custom 12 bolt, C5 brakes, Falken 615 tires, 1LE front sway bar with every factory suspension brace made, GNX rear seat braces and I should have my DSE rear competion sway bar by the end of the week. I would love to have the DSE coil over system with a set of 18" wheels and a nice hidden cage along with an LS motor of some type. My 406 won't run on pump gas alone.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2008/02/19-1.jpg

[SheepdogRD]

Count us in, too. We've just bought an '83 GMC Caballero, and have an LT1/T56 combo sitting in the garage for it. We'll be working with Joe from Bulldawg Musclecars (see post #396) to make sure we get it right. Pics to come.

[rmorman]

Just jumping on the bandwagon. I see a LOT of VERY nice G-bodies here!

[GlockandRoll]

Not mine, but a project we did for a customer recently:

LS3 376/480hp crate engine, 4L70 GMPP trans, convertor, and controllers/harnesses - GMPP
Engine swap mounts, crossmember, and 1 7/8 long tube coated headers- BRP/MuscleRods

I'd love that with an STS turbo on air-bags with a Tremec T56 magnum!

[SS PUNISHER]

Hello all!! Info in sig... Alotta great lookin G bods on here guys!!! This is my 4th G so far.

[malihoochie]

So ...... what does 21 pages of G-body owners get us? How about some more aftermarket support? I know that handling-wise we are taken care of now but, maybe some cool interior doodads like the F-bodies get offered??? Or G-body specific vintage air kits, since many of us remove the huge factory setup to gain room under the hood? :idea: Just wanting the cars we have to get some "luv".

[Samckitt]

So ...... what does 21 pages of G-body owners get us? How about some more aftermarket support? I know that handling-wise we are taken care of now but, maybe some cool interior doodads like the F-bodies get offered??? Or G-body specific vintage air kits, since many of us remove the huge factory setup to gain room under the hood? :idea: Just wanting the cars we have to get some "luv".


Well said brother!

[SRD art]

Yep. And an 8.5" rear for $500 or less. ;)

[SS PUNISHER]

Yep. And an 8.5" rear for $500 or less. ;) That's if you can even find one.... I found one for $600 but it needed everything new inside! went the 8.8 route instead... btw i want my monte to sit like the wagon..... That car looks sic!

[killer69]

Here is tyhe stat of our "Test" car, i am sure you can imagine the next pics that are comming.
We are currently doing all the marketing photos, and later this week will start the install of the complete "Track Time" suspension system. Stay tuned

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/08/DSC08785-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/08/DSC08795-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/08/DSC08717-1.jpg

[Tony_SS]

So ...... what does 21 pages of G-body owners get us? How about some more aftermarket support? I know that handling-wise we are taken care of now but, maybe some cool interior doodads like the F-bodies get offered??? Or G-body specific vintage air kits, since many of us remove the huge factory setup to gain room under the hood? :idea: Just wanting the cars we have to get some "luv".

I would be down for an a/c system... I removed my box too.

[Norm Peterson]

And a few of us never had the OE A/C setup to begin with . . .


Norm

[SRD art]

btw i want my monte to sit like the wagon..... That car looks sic!

Meet yer new buddy...

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/08/cutspring-1.jpg

Lol! Thanks. I originally did it redneck style and cut mass quantities off the coils. IIRC it was 2 3/4 coils I cut off the front. Dropped the nose 4.5". BUT it's actually too low. It's resting on the snubbers and when I hit bumps it rebounds and makes for a fun ride going high speed on uneven roads. Keep tabs on my build thread link in my signature, I'm doing it right this time, 2" drop spindles and mildly cut springs for a 3.5" drop. Rear will stay at 3.5" as well.

[mc84_zz4]

So ...... what does 21 pages of G-body owners get us? How about some more aftermarket support? I know that handling-wise we are taken care of now but, maybe some cool interior doodads like the F-bodies get offered??? Or G-body specific vintage air kits, since many of us remove the huge factory setup to gain room under the hood? :idea: Just wanting the cars we have to get some "luv".
^^ X2 on the well said.
Some aftermarket parts I would like to see are:
- aluminum cowl hood(s) 2", 4"
- deep front inner fender tubs for big tires
- rack & pinion kit
- trunk/seat reinforcement bars
- replacement dash cluster pod, that can fit some gauges AND keep the A/C
- rear frame bolt-in crossmembers
- interior door panels / rear seat panels
- billet hood / trunk hinges
- electric window motor/harness upgrade kits

[SS PUNISHER]

Meet yer new buddy...

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/08/cutspring-1.jpg

Lol! Thanks. I originally did it redneck style and cut mass quantities off the coils. IIRC it was 2 3/4 coils I cut off the front. Dropped the nose 4.5". BUT it's actually too low. It's resting on the snubbers and when I hit bumps it rebounds and makes for a fun ride going high speed on uneven roads. Keep tabs on my build thread link in my signature, I'm doing it right this time, 2" drop spindles and mildly cut springs for a 3.5" drop. Rear will stay at 3.5" as well.LOL yea I already have some cut springs from my old gta. They dropped my blazer 4.5 and still has some travel with the stops trimmed down. I wouldn't mind it so much for now if it's on the bump stops for now since it'll be a parking lot drift car till I can do some REAL suspension and steering mods. I was lookin for a new set of wheels to run until I seen how they look with that much drop, looks pefect to me! I'll be following your build build on here for sure! Once I get to a point to where I can make some progress on the car I'll start a build thread too.

[Norm Peterson]

So ...... what does 21 pages of G-body owners get us?
There are at least 206 of us here, as of post #413.


Norm

[gearheadmatt]

make it 207.

86 Regal pro-tour. AFX spindles, C6 Z51 brakes, custom width 9" w/truetrac, AFCO springs, 383, fat rubber..and on and on...

[BulldawgMusclecars]

So ...... what does 21 pages of G-body owners get us? How about some more aftermarket support? I know that handling-wise we are taken care of now but, maybe some cool interior doodads like the F-bodies get offered??? Or G-body specific vintage air kits, since many of us remove the huge factory setup to gain room under the hood? :idea: Just wanting the cars we have to get some "luv".

Believe me, the cars are getting noticed, and we're about to begin the R&D on several new G-body products. 2012 will be a very good year for the G-body! You'll see them here first!

[DreamSpeedPerf.]

Believe me, the cars are getting noticed, and we're about to begin the R&D on several new G-body products. 2012 will be a very good year for the G-body! You'll see them here first!
Isn't 2012 the year the world ends?... :banghead:

[85GPLEf41]

LOL! that's true damn it!! Glad to see G body's getting some respect! I have always loved them but they seem to be forgotten in the muscle car realm...

[UNGN]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/BBORR2008-1.jpg

Here is my '86 2+2 at speed at the Big Bend Open Road race. Current set up is a ZZ502, Magnum T56, Lincoln Versilles 9" with 3.25 gears, Baer, SC&C, an Alfa Elite and about 6 or so GPS enabled devices.

[SS PUNISHER]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/BBORR2008-1.jpg

Here is my '86 2+2 at speed at the Big Bend Open Road race. Current set up is a ZZ502, Magnum T56, Lincoln Versilles 9" with 3.25 gears, Baer, SC&C, an Alfa Elite and about 6 or so GPS enabled devices.Lets see more of this car!!! Did your passenger roll the window up at speed or what?? lol

[SRD art]

Isn't 2012 the year the world ends?... :banghead:

Not till late December, so we still have 12 months to play around and save for good fire insurance!! Lol!

Yeah, it's great to see more R&D for these cars. They're plentiful, still relatively cheap to buy, and prolly the best GM "muscle car" to build for the $ from the late 70s through mid 80s. Just a thought, compare the number of running G bodies to the number of still in use F bodies from the same era, seems we dominate that one...

[SRD art]

Hey Bulldawg Joe, I volunteer my wagon for test fits for the long back cars. ;)

[UNGN]

Lets see more of this car!!! Did your passenger roll the window up at speed or what?? lol

The windows blow out at about 140 and by 168 the gap is about 1.5". When we drop below 120 mph, they pop back into place. They actually have about 2" of inward preload on them. The great thing about them is you can tell approximaely how fast the car is going when someone takes a picture of it.

Here are some pictures of it without the stickers:

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/pontiacfront-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/pontiacside-1.jpg
And some with:

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/bborr_05-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/bborr081-1.jpg

The Stickers mainly cover "field modifications" where we had to bust out the sledge hammer to get more fender clearance, etc, so we'll leave them on until we redo the 14 year old paint.


Here is an old video of what it's like to ride along:


http://youtu.be/7GPY_vFIGnY

[SS PUNISHER]

Oooh weee! lol that looks like fun!

[WS6]

gorgeous 2+2. Welcome to the forum and thanks for posting those pictures. I miss my 86 GP even if it was just a slow 3.8 carbed engine

[vintageracer]

I owned several of the 86 2+2's and really like those cars. They are a little funky looking proportion wise but a very different from from all the other G body cars and best of all you hardly ever see a 2+2. If and when I do buy another G Body car that car will be another Pontiac 2+2 or one of the 200 1986 Aero-Coupe Monte Carlo's.

[UNGN]

Our 2+2 has worked out pretty good for us. There is no better feeling than having a bigmouthed Corvette guy in a C6 make excuses why he was 10 mph slower than a 25 year old, used car lot POS that you built yourself (with a little help from your friends).

The Aero speaks for itself. Here's me waving at the Radar guy at nearly 170 mph, on a truck worn 2 lane road with a 10 mph cross wind.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/wave-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/168_mph-1.jpg


For Comparison, this is what a C5 Z06 looks like at about the same speed through the same trap in 2008:

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/c5z06frontendlift-1.jpg

Check out the distances between the top of the tire and the fender lip.

[Tony_SS]

I never liked those 2+2's..... until now! Thanks for the pics.

[SRD art]

170! That's incredible. Have you got a build thread on the web somewhere? I'd love to know what it took you to get there...

[UNGN]

170! That's incredible. Have you got a build thread on the web somewhere? I'd love to know what it took you to get there...

We are limited to 168 in ORR due to tire speed ratings, but it would probably top out close to 175 with the current gearing and if we optimized the gearing for top speed, probably would touch 180. At the last Big Bend, I was pedalling it to avoid exceeding 168. The motor is basically a stock ZZ502 with about 12,000 hard miles on it now. It can use some new valve springs, because I tend to wind it a little too much, but otherwise this is an excellent motor.

We don't have a build for it on the net, because we built it in 1997/1998 and have rebuilt it many times since then (it seems like everything but the motor), to fix parts that broke and try new things.

We've torn up more parts that companies advertise as "bulletproof" than I can count, including a 9" detroit Locker and 3 Richmond ROD 6 speeds. We switched over to a Magnum T-56 after the 2011 Big Bend, after shearing the mainshaft in the Richmond "just cruising along" in the 140 class. Up until that point we had gone 90 miles averaging right at 140 mph and drove the last 30 miles in 4th, on the rev limiter @ 125 mph, with 5th and 6th gear laying in the bottom of the trans case. The new T-56 worked pretty good at the 2011 Arnold SORC race and post race checklist of things to fix/impove is the shortest it has ever been.

We've developed a pretty good system to get close to the ORR perfect time that doesn't really involve too much thinking, calculating, stopwatches or precision driving skill and because we've learned that so much unpredictable stuff comes up, it's good to have backups for your backups.

Over the last 10 years, we've whittled our theoretical precision down from +/- 11 seconds (std GPS above a 100 mph average) to +/- 2 seconds (Garmin III GPS with .1 mph average over 100 mph) to "less than 1 second" by measuirng the course with an odometer that is accurate to .002 miles, then making sure the odometer tire (front left) tracks roughly along same path during the race and we account for tire growth with a correction factor that varies by average mph and temperature and check our odometer with known checkpoints along the course, Like mail boxes and highway signs.

We have 3 GPS speedos and one speedo on the Odo tire, because if we break tech by 1 mph, we are disqualified. 169 mph through ANY of the radar traps means you go home at the turn around, the long way, at 70 mph, not 140.

The way Open Road Races are nowadays, less than 1 second might only get you 7th place, so we aren't trying to win, we are just trying to get close enough that we can win if we get lucky.

The G-body is a great platform for open road racing, because ORR isn't about Ultimate handling. ORR is like "Bracket Road racing". You want a stable, predictable car you can put a lot of HP into. Because YOU decide how fast YOU want to go, you can pick a class that is right at the ability of your car and just have a great time beating the crap out of it.

[Norm Peterson]

Very nice, especially now that I know that all those GPS things are performance-related. I used to do a little TSD rallying, and these ORR classes sound somewhat similar in that you're trying to "zero" a 90 mile long leg at a high average speed. T'ain't easy.

No matter what the motorsport activity, it's fun being under-estimated.


Norm

[SRD art]

So what's your final drive ratio?

I'm not anywhere near what you've got into your car but I'll be putting a 9" into my wagon and I have a 2.75 center and a 3.50 center. I'll be running a +/- 400 flywheel hp LS motor and a th350. The car isn't built yet so I'm just wondering if it'll make it in the 130 or 140 MPH club at Bonneville...

[LS6 Tommy]

81 Malibu, disappeared at roll cage fabrication shop. Trying to locate the guy. Cars been gone since last summer. No reply from shop owner after many voice mail messages. nContacting Police next week

You must have great patience. I would have been at the shop with the poice the first day...

Tommy

[BulldawgMusclecars]

Hey Bulldawg Joe, I volunteer my wagon for test fits for the long back cars. ;)

There will be some wagon specific stuff, so I will let you know!

[KacyZ28]

^^ X2 on the well said.
Some aftermarket parts I would like to see are:
- aluminum cowl hood(s) 2", 4"
- deep front inner fender tubs for big tires
- rack & pinion kit
- trunk/seat reinforcement bars
- replacement dash cluster pod, that can fit some gauges AND keep the A/C
- rear frame bolt-in crossmembers
- interior door panels / rear seat panels
- billet hood / trunk hinges
- electric window motor/harness upgrade kits

Just a start for the list, and we got tired of looking for a gauge set up with ac so we made one...it's kinda ruff right now but we'll get it cleaned up
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/mms_picture-1.jpg

[nowukno]

There will be some wagon specific stuff, so I will let you know!

Oh yeah,Im liking this!!!!

[UNGN]

So what's your final drive ratio?

I'm not anywhere near what you've got into your car but I'll be putting a 9" into my wagon and I have a 2.75 center and a 3.50 center. I'll be running a +/- 400 flywheel hp LS motor and a th350. The car isn't built yet so I'm just wondering if it'll make it in the 130 or 140 MPH club at Bonneville...

We currently run a 3.25 with a T-56 and run most races in .75:1 5th. We have run 3.0:1, 2.75:1 and 2.5:1 to try out different gear ratios with our Richmond ROD (1:1 5th, weak nut, made of glass .82 6th).

2.75:1 is a good ratio for ORR. If you want to Wind the LS out, you can get a 3.0 or 3.25, but I personally would not go with a 3.50:1.

2.50:1 is my personal favorite gear for a 1:1 final drive ratio (or for cars with a non close ratio or weak OD). Its very sluggish out of the hole and hard on clutches, but is Excellent above 130 mph. In the 140 mph class we run at big bend, the ability to accellerate from 130 to 160 is more important than accellerating from 0 - 60, since we only have to do that twice per race and have to accellerate above 140 coming out of almost every corner (I think there is about 100 of them in the race).

[howehot]

Schwartz Performance is preparing to build a G-Machine chassis for your g-body. I delivered my 84 Monte SS on Sept. 2 for chassis #1. Check there website and facebook page for details. www.schwartzperformance.com.
Some details: 13" rotors, 6 piston calipers, ridetech coil over adjustable shocks, splined sway bars, triangulated 4 lik rear susp, 9" rear 31 spline axles.

[Norm Peterson]

Welcome aboard.

The Schwartz 4-link is interesting in that it is really an upside-down Satchell link. I think that means you're getting a better rear roll center height than OE and better lower arm geometry for a high-HP/torque car than an original Satchell.

Will there be a build thread in "Project Updates"?


Norm

[howehot]

I believe they will use facebook and their website. Hopefully the build will start in a few weeks. They have a few projects to finish and parts to order for the Monte.

[BulldawgMusclecars]

Schwartz Performance is preparing to build a G-Machine chassis for your g-body. I delivered my 84 Monte SS on Sept. 2 for chassis #1. Check there website and facebook page for details. www.schwartzperformance.com.
Some details: 13" rotors, 6 piston calipers, ridetech coil over adjustable shocks, splined sway bars, triangulated 4 lik rear susp, 9" rear 31 spline axles.

I'm glad to see they are getting started on it! I heard about this chassis several months ago, and I'm looking forward to seeing some in-progress pics!

[Slick68]

Our 2+2 has worked out pretty good for us. There is no better feeling than having a bigmouthed Corvette guy in a C6 make excuses why he was 10 mph slower than a 25 year old, used car lot POS that you built yourself (with a little help from your friends).

The Aero speaks for itself. Here's me waving at the Radar guy at nearly 170 mph, on a truck worn 2 lane road with a 10 mph cross wind.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/wave-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/168_mph-1.jpg


For Comparison, this is what a C5 Z06 looks like at about the same speed through the same trap in 2008:

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/c5z06frontendlift-1.jpg

Check out the distances between the top of the tire and the fender lip.

How does the hood stay that flat at those speeds? The hood on my old elky looked more like that Vette's hood at speeds above 90.

This is really cool to see a rare car getting beat on. I've been around cars all my life and I've only seen about 4 2+2 GP's. All of them were either pampered or in a museum.

[Tony_SS]

And no hood pins either? Yikes!

[WS6]

I believe the extractors on his hood are functional thereby relieving the underhood pressures that were forcing the hood up on your elky.

[Tony_SS]

I believe the extractors on his hood are functional thereby relieving the underhood pressures that were forcing the hood up on your elky.

Which is why I'm going to run vents like these... in the other post he says how much heat escapes out of them too....

[UNGN]

We run hood vents from an '89 GP that I opened up with a Dremel tool for more airflow. Otherwise its the stock hood.

The big aero inprovements in front we made were covering the top grill openings with block off plates and the deep core support airdam made from Conveyor belt rubber. We also had to reinforce the factory air dam because it would fold under the car at speed.

I was going to make headlight covers and a large front airdam at the front bumper, but it never needed them.


In back, we had to put small steel "L" brackets to hold the bubble window down, because the back edge would lift up 1" off the seal at speed. This might be a problem on an SS Aerocoupe if you try to run it above 150 or so.

[Don' Ray D' La Vega]

How's everybody doing ? I'm knew here, hope to meet and learn from friends in the pt arena. As for g- body owners, i have 2 malibu's. 1 is an 80 and the other 81. I hope i'm doing this right ! Forgive my mistakes i am new to forums. Yeah.... I just escaped from my dungeon.lol. I apologize but i cant figure out how to post pictures.

[Mongse87]

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/1102gmhtp_03_o1987_buick_grand_nationalf-1.jpg


My babe

[killer69]

So here is the Speedtech GN with our complete Track Time front and rear coil over tubular arms front and rear sway bars, front chassis brace, AFX spindles. 275 on 9" rims up front and 295's on 9.5'
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/DSC_2955-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/DSC_2950-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/DSC_2958-1.jpg

[Slick68]

:naughty: GGRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!! :naughty:

[SickSpeedMonte]

Damn that GN is sexy

[Doober]

Anybody else notice the passenger window? Gotta love air pressure :rotfl:
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/09/wave-1.jpg

[SRD art]

Nice GNs guys! 275s up front, woohoo! Are they 18's or 19s? Check my build thread, I have 255s on 9.5s up front, but I couldn't get them tucked like yours because of the tie rod ends. What's your secret? The AFX spindles?

[killer69]

part of the equasion is the AFX spindles but the only modification i make to the front was to move the factory brake line mounting bracket the other KEY is the shape of the control arms, we make the control arms clear the hi back space wheels, my car has 18 x 9 with 6" Back space on the front the 275 do touch the frame when the wheel is cranked but what ever

[daveybtv]

275 on 9" rims up front and 295's on 9.5'


Did you do a frame Notch and mini tub to get the wheel and tire combo to work?

[sixfivepost]

So here is the Speedtech GN with our complete Track Time front and rear coil over tubular arms front and rear sway bars, front chassis brace, AFX spindles. 275 on 9" rims up front and 295's on 9.5'


Bad a$$!!

[CruizinKev]

295's on 9.5'
295's on 9.5x18? what backspacing?

[killer69]

275 on 9" rims up front and 295's on 9.5'


Did you do a frame Notch and mini tub to get the wheel and tire combo to work?

No & no frame notch and no mini tubs. had to trim about 3/8 off the outer wheel well lip thats it. the rear rims have a 5" BS now i also changed to ford housing ends and narrowed the housing a bit and then used spacers to fine tune the width. the finished wheel mounting surface measurement is 57.5" if i recall.

[UNGN]

Great looking GN's, Killer69 and monges87.

This is my DD T-type. It's a little "old tech", but still scares BS'ers. Best ET was 11.53@118 on DR's, but I've ported the heads added a cam and larger injectors since then. It has B-spindles, 12" brakes and Hydroboost. I love the brakes, but am not crazy about the bump steer.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/10/UNGN20111-1.jpg


Flofit seats were installed by the Dealer in 1986. I recovered them in the factory fabric back in the 1990's. My dad added the Armrest/cupholder. It's held in place with Magnets (http://www.kjmagnetics.com/) hidden inside the glovebox lid.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2011/10/ttype_interior-1.jpg

[468cibu]

hey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
new guy with a 79 bu

[howehot]

Progress is being made. Check them out on Facebook https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

[carguykeith]

Here's mine:

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

Build thread is in my signature.

[Neutral]

Just signed up. '87 Regal T-package. (came factory with T-type wheels, interior, suspension, and steering box)
Still relatively unmodified.

[nowukno]

More of mine
http://www.gbodycentral.com/forums/garage.php?do=user_garage_view&id=6

[howehot]

Schwartz performance chassis is fully assembled.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/01/monte34-1.jpg

[howehot]

Want the only bolt on chassis for a G-Body, contact Schwartz Performance. Jeff will set you right up.

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/01/monte38-1.jpg

[mattzoom]

checkin in with the GN


https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif
By dschenke (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/dschenke) at 2011-12-11

[howehot]

Some number on the Schwartz Perf. G-body chassis:
old weight 968lbs 51.3 front 48.7 rear
new 849lbs 45.6 front 54.4 rear
over 200% more torsional stiffness vs old chassis.

[SicMonte]

Some number on the Schwartz Perf. G-body chassis:
old weight 968lbs 51.3 front 48.7 rear
new 849lbs 45.6 front 54.4 rear
over 200% more torsional stiffness vs old chassis.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[jeff-san]

69 SJ Grand Prix ....old school g body

[herewego]

82 regal 455 pontiac e85 with nitrous

[choppercitysoprano]

Hello from new orleans

[1985olds]

1985 cutlass salon 327 5 speed manual

[mr84monte]

Hello it's Rob from Milton WA (Seattle)

Just found the site SO MUCH NEW DATA:seizure::seizure::seizure:

84' Monte SS

[gammapunk]

84 monte carlo SS

[BLWN1]

clean monte chopper!!!

[BLWN1]

No & no frame notch and no mini tubs. had to trim about 3/8 off the outer wheel well lip thats it. the rear rims have a 5" BS now i also changed to ford housing ends and narrowed the housing a bit and then used spacers to fine tune the width. the finished wheel mounting surface measurement is 57.5" if i recall.

What wheels are on the buick? Did I over look that?

[Streetbu]

Newb to the site, been here before but never joined. Here's my ride. Owned it since '94 and it was my 3rd '78 2dr in a row :D
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

[nowukno]

I installed black Coy's c5's on my 79 Malibu coupe today,17x7 and 17x8, will try to get better pics up soon.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/02/80ac5f5b-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/02/2100440d-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/02/55d4b550-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/02/a6d91064-1.jpg

[SRD art]

Man that is one clean looking 'Bu Nowukno.

Welcome to all the new folks. I dropped by occasionally for a couple years and finally joined in. You'll find a great group of people here. Lots of G-bodies too, all serious about cutting corners. Woohoo!

That chassis looks great. Only bad thing is it's missing body mounts for a wagon, lol! ;)

[nowukno]

Thanks Ben,your right,great guys here,i joined back in 2006. i like it here.

[bkbu79]

New to the site...

[daveybtv]

Don't know how I missed this thread, but here is mine , working on getting the engine bay cleaned up and new serpentine kit and fans
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/02/malibuss-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/02/enbay2-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/02/enbay-1.jpg

[nowukno]

My 3 girls
78,79,and 80
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/02/9bad5643-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/02/2e02b932-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/02/1a6bdaec-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/02/986c4d0c-1.jpg
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https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/02/f8c1ccd0-1.jpg

[Konfuzed]

Just got a 83 regal so the fun begins for me cause it needs alot of work..

[91hrdbdy]

Here is my money put
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/05/f1587d4c-1.jpg

[GNon18s]

^I like it! besides air, what does your front suspension consist of? just aftermarket control arms on the stock frame? Any inner wheel wells in that thing?

[91hrdbdy]

i have inner wheel wells, im using strong arms and f body sway bar with heim end links. wilwood 12.19 kit in the front and im installing a 11.75 custom built setup in the rear right now. im using a monte ss steering box. its really just a daily driver that ive been playing with for some time now.

here are some under hood pics i took a few months ago.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/05/fccda9e7-1.jpg

here is a trunk shot of the air install i did just tried to keep it simple and clean
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/05/b64de556-1.jpg

the sway bar endlink i made for it i machined a billett housing that bolted in the lower c/a and the sway bar.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/05/f19d60fe-1.jpg

and a shot of the brakes

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

the part i mote proud of ther interior
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/05/94cf85e9-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/noimg.gif

every thing was done by me! still learning
still lots of stuff planned now that the interior is all done
i plan on repainting it this summer same color but with a black stripe not yellow

[SicMonte]

I need to put up some pics in here...

[G Monte]

Hello everyone, just registered!

[xxxturbo6]

1986 Buick T-Type still sporting the little v6! With the following parts:

Complete DSE suspension front & rear with frame bracing
DSE steering shaft
BAER track4 brakes up front & BAER SS4 rear brakes
Much, Much More!


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[twstdmc]

82 Monte. LS body conversion. Bmr suspension, pst polygraphite bushings, sway bars & springs. Just gettin into autocross. Anemic 355 with 2004r trans. Power tour long hauler. Lots of fun

[DreamSpeedPerf.]

little update on mine did the zq8 spindles and brakes still need to do the rear disk also installed my spohn a-arms in the front and lexus interior
also dropped it all around will post more pics and specs later
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/06/P1020604-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/06/P1020605-1.jpg

[WS6]

So what happened to the AME/Holley Grand Prix?

[howehot]

#1 Schwartz Performance chassis, Ridetech coil overs, Moser full floater 9", Detroit tru trac, 13" Wilwood brakes, LS1 & 4L60E, Dewitt Radiator, FAST EZ EFI, XIM, TCI-TCU, TCI converter, Procar Elite seats, XXR wheels, 275/35/18 kdw fronts, 335/30/18 kdw rears

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/c0af60e6-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/263f6cd0-1.jpg
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/07/20120701162651-1.jpg

[lsx80monte]

Just went through this entire thread and noticed no other 80 monte and only a couple of other 79s montes. It currently has an lm7/4l60e.

[CruizinKev]

sweet!!

[Doober]

Here're a few... gotta run the wheels up front until I either get some different wheels or different spindles. I was really hoping to run the 17x9.5s with my current setup but the tie rod end interferes with the wheel at any less backspacing.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/DSC01936-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/DSC01938-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/DSC01937-1.jpg

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2012/08/DSC01939-1.jpg

[procircuit]

81 Malibu... just signed up!

[rtsoul]

85 Regal limited here.