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Damn True
03-21-2006, 03:27 PM
An old article from Motor Trend on "fudging" the rules in racing. Includes a bit about Smokey too.

http://www.motortrend.com/features/consumer/112_0504_unfair_advantage/index.html

Bill Howell
03-21-2006, 04:13 PM
I have said it here before, but I will say it again. Smokey Yunick was the man. If you have never read his book (it is on cd also), do yourself a favor and read it. It will change your outlook about today's NASCAR if nothing else.
Great read True.

Mean 69
03-22-2006, 02:52 AM
That was really good. A very good friend used to be a crew member on John Force's team (he was the clutch guy for the first several seasons that John won the Championship), they change the oil after every fire of the engine. He told me that the Super Stock guys used to grab the used oil and run it in their cars, becaue the residual nitro would flash out when the car was running. Other notable cheating *******s are the serious vintage race folks, big time. Those dudes are really competitive, often very sharp and subtle, and you won't be able to run with them if you don't follow suit.

Great stuff, part of the fun!
Mark

69rs
03-22-2006, 03:06 AM
That was really good. A very good friend used to be a crew member on John Force's team (he was the clutch guy for the first several seasons that John won the Championship), they change the oil after every fire of the engine. He told me that the Super Stock guys used to grab the used oil and run it in their cars, becaue the residual nitro would flash out when the car was running. Other notable cheating *******s are the serious vintage race folks, big time. Those dudes are really competitive, often very sharp and subtle, and you won't be able to run with them if you don't follow suit.

Great stuff, part of the fun!
Mark
Do you want nitro to be flashing in your oil pan? :drive2:

wendell
03-22-2006, 07:00 AM
Mean 69 doesn't know what he's talking about. Baseless aligations bordering on slander!

MarkM66
03-22-2006, 07:10 AM
I have said it here before, but I will say it again. Smokey Yunick was the man. If you have never read his book (it is on cd also), do yourself a favor and read it. It will change your outlook about today's NASCAR if nothing else.
Great read True.

I agree 100%.

Might change your work ethic too. That guy never quit.

Travis B
03-22-2006, 07:14 AM
Mean 69 doesn't know what he's talking about. Baseless aligations bordering on slander!

how do you really feel about what he said......haha

scogin918
03-22-2006, 07:27 AM
Don't forget the Wayne County Dodge fiasco. Darrell Alderman and Scott Geoffrion were doing well there for a while until the rumors of nitrous started flying. Then all of a sudden someone breaks into their shop and destroys their motors. Hmmm...

MarkM66
03-22-2006, 07:57 AM
I've read many atricles on Smokeys Chevelle, and he absolutly denies making it 7/8 scale, even in his tell all book. And for those who have read it, he does seem to tell it all. He even told people to go measure it for themselves, this was when that car was in a museum, where all could see.

One of my favorite he admitted too. He'd inflate and deflate a basketball that was inside the fuel tank. Inflate before tech, deflate after tech. "All while shooting the sh$t with the instector." LOL!

Steve1968LS2
03-22-2006, 08:09 AM
Yea, you should have heard the stories **** Guldstrand told us..

The inspectors would always check to make sure they didn't move the engine backwards by measuring. So what they did was move the front suspension forward a little bit to get the same effect. While the judges always measured the distance from the engine to the firewall they never measured the suspension :)

As he said "it's only cheating if your caught"

Mean 69
03-22-2006, 08:36 AM
Mean 69 doesn't know what he's talking about. Baseless aligations bordering on slander!

Oh, please! Someone maybe have a guilty concious?!?! He he he he he.....:guilty:

And I think my buddy Dean was referring to "flashing off" under ignition, not in the oil pan....
M

Mean 69
03-22-2006, 08:39 AM
He'd inflate and deflate a basketball that was inside the fuel tank. Inflate before tech, deflate after tech.

There's a great picture of Jenson Button and the rest of the BAR Honda crew watching the Monoco GP last year, from a hotel balcony. Seems they did something like this too, and got caught, entire team suspended for four races, death for the season. Anyone watch the Ferrari front wing debate during this past weekend? It's only cheating if your caught, and also if there is a rule that says you can't do it in the first place!

Eghads!?! An F1 team, CHEATING?! What a pity!

M

scogin918
03-22-2006, 08:56 AM
They once accused Smokey of having a hidden fuel tank. He then proceeded to drain the entire tank, which was full at the time. When the tank had emptied itself of its contents, he hopped in the driver's seat, cranked it up and drove away.

Damn True
03-22-2006, 09:25 AM
They once accused Smokey of having a hidden fuel tank. He then proceeded to drain the entire tank, which was full at the time. When the tank had emptied itself of its contents, he hopped in the driver's seat, cranked it up and drove away.

Was that the episode with the extra long, extra large dia. fuel line?

scogin918
03-22-2006, 09:27 AM
That could've been. It makes sense.

MarkM66
03-22-2006, 09:32 AM
Was that the episode with the extra long, extra large dia. fuel line?

Yes, he did do this.

The story about him firing it up without a gas tank is a Myth. He addressed this in a printed interview I have.

jp455
03-23-2006, 07:13 PM
Hey Bill, which one of the books are you refering to? I read unfair advantage, and having lived very close to smokeys shop I've been meaning to read that for a while.

Thanks.
Manuel Scettri