View Full Version : Single Turbo vs Whipple
XLexusTech
03-05-2023, 07:47 AM
I have a 2017 GMC Sierra that is my daily driver. Ive decided to convert it to a more spirited version for a dialy some light towing and 'spirited driving' fun.
I am lowering 3 to 5 inches putting a sport truck suspension on it and air assit load bags for towing my camaro. (under 8000 total tow weight)
It has a 5.3 and I am on the fence about a supercharger vs turbo.
Pros of turbo.. more on demand torgue, NO whine or fulltime drag on engine. Cons Heat.. literally every kit has issues with AC lines and wiring. This can be managed. Oiling.
Pros of whipple, Easy install easy removal. No heat issues,
Cons i like a nice quiet ride when just going to the grocery store.. I don't care for a whine all the time.. roughly 40% more expensive.
So help me decide..
69cutlassrkt
03-05-2023, 09:22 AM
I was going to go with a centrifugal on my car. My reason was for the simplicity for tuning and stuff vs turbo and me being someone that doesnt want to mess with things all the time. Anyway I ended up changing my mind and am going to do a single turbo because it will cost less and make more power. Also it will be easier on the crankshaft and no belt issues. Its a difficult decision.
Lonnies Performance
03-05-2023, 04:31 PM
A prime consideration is if you already have money invested in headers/exhaust so you are not buying things twice.
The Whipple is an easier install & will have great torque.
I recently worked on a 6.0 with Whipple & it tows so well, you almost forget the trailer is back there... until you need fuel.
Another thing to consider is an Eaton style charger (GM, Magnuson etc.) as they are virtually silent until you are deep in the throttle.
Centrifugal chargers do make good upper end HP, but are not as good for low end torque (towing) as they make more boost as RPM rises & not as much down low.
I did a turbo 01 Silverado which is also impressive, but you do have a slight spooling delay on the power transition.
Having a boost controller is great so you can set it for durable towing or crank it up for 1/4mi. or stop light fun.
I cannot give a clear winner here... If I was building it to race, I would lean towards a turbo. With the consideration as you build for more power & go larger, you lose the low end & have to deal with more lag.
Positive displacement chargers will make boost down low & are very predictable & easy to install.
XLexusTech
03-05-2023, 06:08 PM
I am looking at this kit
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mps-011953182bl/make/chevrolet/model/silverado-1500
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This Kit
https://hppracing.com/products/on3-2014-chevy-gmc-silverado-sierra-1500-truck-single-turbo-system
A prime consideration is if you already have money invested in headers/exhaust so you are not buying things twice.
The Whipple is an easier install & will have great torque.
I recently worked on a 6.0 with Whipple & it tows so well, you almost forget the trailer is back there... until you need fuel.
Another thing to consider is an Eaton style charger (GM, Magnuson etc.) as they are virtually silent until you are deep in the throttle.
Centrifugal chargers do make good upper end HP, but are not as good for low end torque (towing) as they make more boost as RPM rises & not as much down low.
I did a turbo 01 Silverado which is also impressive, but you do have a slight spooling delay on the power transition.
Having a boost controller is great so you can set it for durable towing or crank it up for 1/4mi. or stop light fun.
I cannot give a clear winner here... If I was building it to race, I would lean towards a turbo. With the consideration as you build for more power & go larger, you lose the low end & have to deal with more lag.
Positive displacement chargers will make boost down low & are very predictable & easy to install.
bsinclair
03-06-2023, 08:04 AM
In my opinion those aren't really comparable. On3 uses cheaply made China parts. They have R&D facility in Ohio but everything is manufactured in China. I'd either opt for a Magnuson, Whipple or a factory LT4 blower with conversion parts from Boost District. I have a Magnuson instock for that model truck as well if interested.
Lonnies Performance
03-06-2023, 03:37 PM
I would look into the LT4 conversion.
They are relatively cheap & of factory quality.
With a cam, over 500rwhp is relatively easy to get & over 600 is possible, but not exactly safe.
XLexusTech
03-07-2023, 05:42 PM
Thanks for the input.. going to look into this https://boostdistrict.com/collections/truck-kits/products/2014-2020-gm-truck-suv-5-3-6-2-magnuson-tvs2650-supercharger
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In my opinion those aren't really comparable. On3 uses cheaply made China parts. They have R&D facility in Ohio but everything is manufactured in China. I'd either opt for a Magnuson, Whipple or a factory LT4 blower with conversion parts from Boost District. I have a Magnuson instock for that model truck as well if interested.
doing some research and will reach out when ready
69cutlassrkt
03-10-2023, 09:51 PM
Thanks for the input.. going to look into this https://boostdistrict.com/collections/truck-kits/products/2014-2020-gm-truck-suv-5-3-6-2-magnuson-tvs2650-supercharger
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doing some research and will reach out when ready
Don't upgrade the heat exchanger on the boost district kit. Just buy one somewhere else if you go that route. I had the upgraded one and it was pretty small(I bought the truck kit about 3-4 years ago or so). I found similar ones on ebay for half the price.
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