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1972Mach1
09-17-2018, 12:24 PM
Here's my daily beater/sometime race truck/tow vehicle '74 F100. My goal for the truck is to be competitive at autocross, leave the factory bench seat and interior stock, and to do it with the front I-beams still intact, as everyone is doing Crown Vic swaps, and I like to be difficult hahaha.....Plus it's got to fire up every morning and get me to work no matter the weather, which here in Montana means -20 to 110 above, in snow (I put snow tires on), rain, shine, basically whatever may come, it has to function like a truck still.

I got this about 4 years ago as a $1500 beater from a friend of mine that knew I've been looking for one. It had a weak sack 360 and about every old school farmer accessory at the time (chrome roll bar, visor, slider rear window, CB, etc.) First thing I did after pulling all the nastiness off it was get some 18x8.5 and 18x10 Ridler 645s for it with some 235/55 and 265/60 tires, as anything decent looking in the 5x5.5" bolt pattern is difficult to find, especially reasonably priced. I then dropped it 3.5" front and about 4.5" out back by doing a coil cut, half flip on the hangers, and Crown Suspension shackles on the stock leaves. Then I pulled the 360 out and stroked it with a 390 crank and rods, ported the stock heads, and did a poor man's "rebuild" on it (rebearing, re-ring). I drove/raced/flogged it like that for 3 years and 50,000 miles until earlier this year when on my way to an autocross in Helena, MT it started smoking and missing. I turned around, limped it home, and compression tested it with 2 cylinders at 0, and 4 under 80 psi, so out the engine came again....after tear down, I had 6 cylinders with broken compression rings, and one totally lunched hyper piston, and the block was now toast along with a couple chambers on the heads.

At this point, I decided to make it a little bit more competitive as I race it in the SSM class in autocross, and there's some pretty stout machinery there. I started making phone calls to suspension companies, cylinder head companies, etc. ADDCO got back to me and cut me a really sweet deal on both front and rear sway-bars, and got them to me weeks before they came off national backorder. Also got a hold of Promaxx Performance, and got a set of aluminum heads from them for less than what rebuilding my stock heads was going to cost me. I found another FE block and had it bored .030 over and put in some Speed Pro hypereutectic pistons and moly rings. I got a hold of Scotty Johnston at Re-In-Carnation performance and had him build me a custom hydraulic cam, and got a custom Holley 3310 built for it from DEADMANSCURVE off a Buick forum I'm on. It's got 1 3/4" primary Hooker headers, and an Edelbrock Performer RPM I port matched to the heads, along with a windage tray. Pretty basic, reliable, pump gas build with roughly 400 hp and 500ish ft-lbs.

So for now I've still got my cut front springs on the stock beams (sets the camber at about 6 degrees negative, doesn't wear out the tires too bad, and drives straight), KYB Gas-Adjust shocks on all four corners, a Competiton Engineering panhard bar, and ADDCO front and rear sway bars. I've also got polyurethane bushings in just about everything you can on it. Currently still running stock discs/drums, but that's going to change in the near future. I've also got a take off set of Goodyear F1 Asymmetrics I'm going to be getting a set of lighter wheels and haul those to the track and swap on when racing. So far, so good, as I'm usually competitive with things like stock WRXs, Chevy SSs, LT-1 powered Camaros, 5.0s, etc....Pretty happy with it, but it'll be getting better as things progress along.

1972Mach1
09-17-2018, 12:28 PM
More pics.....

camuchi
09-17-2018, 08:32 PM
Nice truck
Got my dads 76 f100 in the garage.

Slick68
09-19-2018, 04:49 AM
That's certainly a cool truck. I gotta say, that's some high ambition to be competitive on I-Beams. But, if you're set on that, I would suggest drop beams, then get some proper drop coils and upgrade to Ridetech HQ shocks. Maybe try to incorporate some first-gen Lightning suspension mods?

As for braking, try some slightly more aggressive pads like the Hawk HPS (https://www.summitracing.com/parts/hwk-hb292f-674/overview/year/1978/make/ford/model/f-100). Even on stock rotors and calipers, they can make a big difference.

Since you plan to take "race" wheels to change at the track, make sure those wheels have proper tires like BFG Rival, Bridgestone RE-71, or the new Kumho Ecsta V720. Go 18" and square it up. Since wheels are limited in your bolt pattern, if you find some 18x9.5 wheels and stick some 275/35/18 tires on all four, you'll be rocking pretty good and the autocross courses.

1972Mach1
09-19-2018, 07:04 AM
That's certainly a cool truck. I gotta say, that's some high ambition to be competitive on I-Beams. But, if you're set on that, I would suggest drop beams, then get some proper drop coils and upgrade to Ridetech HQ shocks. Maybe try to incorporate some first-gen Lightning suspension mods?

As for braking, try some slightly more aggressive pads like the Hawk HPS (https://www.summitracing.com/parts/hwk-hb292f-674/overview/year/1978/make/ford/model/f-100). Even on stock rotors and calipers, they can make a big difference.

Since you plan to take "race" wheels to change at the track, make sure those wheels have proper tires like BFG Rival, Bridgestone RE-71, or the new Kumho Ecsta V720. Go 18" and square it up. Since wheels are limited in your bolt pattern, if you find some 18x9.5 wheels and stick some 275/35/18 tires on all four, you'll be rocking pretty good and the autocross courses.

Thanks for the replies and tips, guys....Yeah, it's not the easiest path with the I-beams for sure. Haven't done the "Dream Beams" 3" drop for budget reasons (I'd go to a Crown Vic swap for the scratch involved), but I am looking into real proper coils. Right now, the way it's set up I'm able to outrun most the stock class guys in their Chevy SS's, Dodge Chargers/Challengers, regular non-turbo Subarus, and most the 3rd and 4th Gen F-body guys (even some of those that are set-up ok). I run the shop at a Chevy/Caddy dealer, so I've got a lot of take off tires stacked in my basement in 18s, 19s, and 20s from Vettes and Camaros, from 245/40 18s all the way up to 335 width Michelin Pilots off a new Z06. I've got some "green stuff" pads on the front right now, which helped a bit, but I'll look at the Hawks, and going to do braided brake lines also. There's a company making rear disc conversions for the truck in the stock bolt pattern now, so that's on the list, too. Again, thanks very much for the suggestions! Hopefully somebody has a set of 18" rims sitting around collecting dust.

bs46488
09-20-2018, 10:19 AM
Do you watch Truck Tech on PowerNation TV?

Those guys just did a 1974 F100. It was a cool project to watch the progress on.

https://www.powernationtv.com/post/big-plans-for-the-1974-f100

1972Mach1
09-20-2018, 11:28 AM
Do you watch Truck Tech on PowerNation TV?

Those guys just did a 1974 F100. It was a cool project to watch the progress on.

https://www.powernationtv.com/post/big-plans-for-the-1974-f100

I do, but hadn't seen that. Thanks for the heads up!

SonomaZ
10-24-2018, 04:43 PM
Hoonitruck!

Just stumbled across this today.
Might get a kick out of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgqyzQY9gks

Sbeck09
10-24-2018, 05:05 PM
Hoonitruck!

Just stumbled across this today.
Might get a kick out of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgqyzQY9gks

DAMNIT! I came here to post this. But I like that you're trying to make the beams work @1972Mach1. I took one look under my 95 when I decided to build it for track and said no way.

I did not see any interior pics...is this truck an auto or manual trans? Also looks like you are still running the bench seat?

1972Mach1
10-25-2018, 08:52 AM
DAMNIT! I came here to post this. But I like that you're trying to make the beams work @1972Mach1. I took one look under my 95 when I decided to build it for track and said no way.

I did not see any interior pics...is this truck an auto or manual trans? Also looks like you are still running the bench seat?


Hoonitruck!

Just stumbled across this today.
Might get a kick out of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgqyzQY9gks

Yeah, saw that yesterday....That thing is BADA$$!!!! Interior on the truck is stock, still bench seat, still lap belts. Eventually I'll be putting in an interior 4 point rollbar with hidden harnesses, but I'm into old school hot rods, so I'll be keeping the bench and stock belts too. Right now, when I'm done with an autocross, I can hardly walk the next day because my ribs and core are so sore from holding myself up, and I'll have a 8" bruise on the outside of my left leg from my thigh to my calf from pushing it against the door panel. But, to me, that's part of the fun with this thing is going out running guys with what just looks like a stock truck with a stock interior. Plus, I do drive it almost every single day, and that bench is a fantastic place to sit....these race pics are from BEFORE the suspension mods, you can see the impressive lean angle of the truck and myself going the opposite way. I have to have the window open because I'll hang my head outside the truck on left handers.

Took it for a 400 mile mountain roadie last weekend just because. Got some good corners, and finished off the rear tires. Going to be putting the moondiscs and whitewall snow tires back on in the next month, anyway, so I'll just finish out the year on the bare skins.

Also in contact with Fitech, going to be trying out the Easy Street 600 system on it. Will be ordering that up next month or December. Looking forward to that.....

(Oh, and that's right, I've got a Mooneyes metalflake steering wheel, 8 ball column shift, and Sun Supertach.)

1972Mach1
11-05-2018, 01:02 PM
Speaking of a 4 point roll bar, anybody know anyone that makes a basic kit for these trucks? I've checked S&W and a few others, but can't find a simple bar for sale.....

1972Mach1
11-06-2018, 12:04 PM
Sad day, had to give into winter finally and go back to old school.

1972Mach1
12-13-2018, 10:55 AM
Well, I called up FiTech and got a pretty sweet deal on a dealer returned but still new Go EFI 600 system and Command Center 2. Waiting on the Command Center 2 as they're on backorder until the end of December. Also scored some free buggy harnesses from a member on the Buick forum I'm on, so I'll be installing those to help with my unintended core training while racing. My plan is to keep the factory lap belts for everyday driving, and have these mounted and stuffed behind the seat until race day.....

Sbeck09
12-13-2018, 11:12 AM
Glad you scored deals on both FI and harnesses. These trucks are sooooo much nicer with injection. I remember my first event with a harness. I couldn't believe how much easier it was on my body and I felt more confident in the vehicle.

1972Mach1
12-13-2018, 11:35 AM
Glad you scored deals on both FI and harnesses. These trucks are sooooo much nicer with injection. I remember my first event with a harness. I couldn't believe how much easier it was on my body and I felt more confident in the vehicle.

Yeah, it was definitely a work out with just the lap belts. Looking forward to being able to concentrate on driving and not holding myself upright hahaha.....With the varying driving conditions this truck goes through, I think the EFI is going to be a big step up. Also looking forward to putting remote start on it. Been about 5 degrees here a few mornings already this year, and sitting in it keeping it running with the carb till it's warm enough to take off is less than pleasant.

1972Mach1
12-26-2018, 07:54 AM
Christmas! Well, one of the many good things that come out of being born into a car family, you get parts for Christmas, birthdays, etc. This year I was lucky enough to get some pretty cool stuff for the beater: Got a Detroit Truetrac, Champion 3 core radiator, and a Tuff Stuff high flow aluminum water pump.....still waiting on my Fuel Command Center to show up, but I'll probably end up tackling all the projects at once now. The FiTech has a control for electric fans, so I'll be ordering a full set up with shrouds after the 1st of the year.

Sbeck09
12-26-2018, 08:59 AM
Nice! You're 100% right about car families being great at Christmas. I have a similar champion radiator for my project. I bought the set with shroud and 2 electric fans for my 4 row. I bet they make one for yours too. Seems like these are pretty well made. Looks like you have plenty of work to do. Fun!

1972Mach1
12-26-2018, 10:44 AM
Thanks! Yes, pretty lucky as far as family goes. I've got Champion radiators in all my stuff, they're top notch. Fit like stock. I was going to get their fan kit, but they only have duals and I'm going to try to find a single 16" first instead of running two smaller ones. I'm a little afraid of voltage draw between running my FiTech, Command Center, stereo, headlights, etc. with dual fans. We'll see what I end up doing, because it'd be nice just to buy the kit Champion sells for shrouds and fans and just bolt it in.

Sbeck09
12-26-2018, 02:18 PM
I'm new to running dual fans too. Figured I'll run them set for different temps. I grabbed the relay kit Vintage Air sells when I got my air kit. Single 16" fan is all I've run in the past. You'll be fine.

1972Mach1
01-11-2019, 08:57 AM
I'm new to running dual fans too. Figured I'll run them set for different temps. I grabbed the relay kit Vintage Air sells when I got my air kit. Single 16" fan is all I've run in the past. You'll be fine.

Well, here's the fan/shroud combo I scored off eBay from Radiators for Less. It's the Champion brand shroud, so it should bolt right on. Don't know what brand the fan is, but it's supposedly good to 2500 cfm. I figure for $109 shipped, if the fan kicks the bucket, I'm still good and I'll just get a good 16" replacement from Derale or the like. Debating on using the FiTech to control the fan or running a toggle, as sometimes I prefer to let my other cars with electric fans sit for a few minutes to cool down after I shut them off. Also got a new quick ratio steering box and lines from Lares, it's 3.5 turns lock to lock. Supposed to be 40+ degrees and sunny this weekend, so my goal is to get the steering box and lines installed, and we'll see what else happens. Kind of tough to get anything done other than parts ordering on the beater when it's my daily driver, it's snowing and been under 30 degrees for a couple months, and the garage is full of my good cars I won't leave outside......
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P.S. Can anybody tell me how the hell do I keep my pictures from stacking all weird and in different sizes like they do? Thanks!

1972Mach1
01-12-2019, 10:36 AM
It's 22 degrees out. Why wouldn't a guy start wrenching outside?

Sbeck09
01-12-2019, 02:12 PM
I can definitely admire your dedication, but I moved to the desert because I hate cold that much. I've had to do what you're doing a few times. Today I'm working on my project truck while it's 70 degrees and partly cloudy.

1972Mach1
01-14-2019, 06:39 AM
Yeah, it's not really fun working in the snow, but things have got to get done. Everything went well except the aftermarket return line I bought wasn't even close to right, so had to make a new one of those. Never did get above 25 Saturday so most the day was spent going out and wrenching until I couldn't take the cold anymore, going inside and having a beer, then going back out and working again. Truck now steers like a car, actual lock to lock is about 3 1/4 turns. Pretty happy overall, and it's nice to get something accomplished on the truck even if it is just a steering gear.

1972Mach1
01-16-2019, 09:39 AM
More baby steps to a better truck......Got the shroud and fan mounted to the radiator last night while watching Barrett Jackson.

camuchi
01-16-2019, 01:08 PM
I got a controller from these guys for my sons scoutvthatcwe are running the dual Taurus fans on
Controls high and low speed FYI seems well made but I have not powered it up yet

http://dccontrol.com/constant_temperature_controllers.htm

1972Mach1
01-17-2019, 08:06 AM
I got a controller from these guys for my sons scoutvthatcwe are running the dual Taurus fans on
Controls high and low speed FYI seems well made but I have not powered it up yet

http://dccontrol.com/constant_temperature_controllers.htm

Those are good looking pieces.......I've decided to just run a toggle so I can keep the fans going with the engine shut off in between rounds of autocross. My FiTech has a fan control with a temp sensor, but I want to have the ability to keep it running with the key off.

1972Mach1
02-04-2019, 04:09 PM
Anybody else haul their snowmobile in their racecar? :)

1972Mach1
02-21-2019, 03:10 PM
FINALLY!!!! Crap, been waiting for my Command Center for 3 months now, finally showed up yesterday. If I don't go snowmobiling this weekend hopefully the beater will be carb-less.

1972Mach1
03-27-2019, 10:59 AM
Had a rocker shaft break, which is fairly common on FEs when you get into big lifts/stiff springs. Got some Precision Pumps billet rocker shaft supports, and tore it apart to replace the lifter and pushrod. Decided it was a good time to just get everything done at once so I'm currently in the process of doing the radiator/fan swap, installed my aluminum water pump, and doing the FiTech install. This vintage of Ford has a perfect little shelf right in front of the firewall for a Command Center 2......

Sbeck09
03-27-2019, 02:43 PM
That's among the reasons I kept the FE390 in my '69 very mild. I like your solution better though, just upgrade everything else.

Looking pretty good so far!

1972Mach1
04-08-2019, 01:51 PM
Getting closer, hopefully fire it up tonight. Can't find a 12v key on power source that stays hot while cranking, so going to run a toggle from the battery for now. Just need to wire that and the fan relay up, then should be making smoke. First race is the 20th-21st, so need to get cracking.....

1972Mach1
04-19-2019, 08:41 AM
Just an FYI to guys out there doing an EFI swap: Funny enough, your electric choke wire for your carb works just dandy for your constant 12V source, and it's not like you're going to need it. Got the FiTech on and been fine tuning it. Works really well, still got a little bog on bottom, but hopefully I'll have that tuned out of it tonight. Installed the Truetrac this week after work, VERY impressed with that. First autocross of the year is Saturday and Sunday, been spending most nights getting the truck prepped....hey, at least my signs look professional!

1972Mach1
04-24-2019, 06:28 AM
Well, here's some proof that you can make these trucks work with stock type suspension with some geometry and careful set-up.....Took 1st in CAM-T both days, 5th overall on Saturday's autocross, 9th Sunday with a lot more cars. This is with lap belts, bench seat, the all terrain take-off Firestone Chevy 4x4 tires on back and factory Chevy Equinox all season tires on front. With some tires, everybody figures I would've been in 3rd Saturday and top 5 Sunday. Really need to find some rims for the Pilot Sport Cups I have sitting in my parts room, but I'm happy with it as it is.....Would it do better with an IFS and IRS? Sure. But you don't NEED to do those mods to have fun and be competitive with a '67-'79 Ford 1/2 ton like everybody says you do. Learning the truck and what it wants to do is the biggest thing. Hopefully my pile inspires other guys to try to make these work, because they're very cheap and readily available. You could be racing for under a couple grand if you find the right truck.

http://bigskyregion.com/results/2019/2019-04-20-final.html

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Sbeck09
04-28-2019, 04:50 PM
Sounds like the EFI did wonderful. Nice driving to wheel that thing into the top 10. What's next besides wheels?

1972Mach1
04-29-2019, 06:53 AM
Sounds like the EFI did wonderful. Nice driving to wheel that thing into the top 10. What's next besides wheels?

Hey, thank you. Some people think it's the driver, but I'm not so sure hahaha....I'm pretty ham fisted with the throttle, and I think my lack of mechanical sympathy has something to do with me being able to beat people in much more capable cars. Besides getting some of the good rubber I have sitting around mounted up on wheels and tires for races and the harnesses in, not much. Might put some discs on back later on when my budget allows but that'll be about it for now. I've got 3 other "classics" and 2 "regular cars" that keep me busy in the warmer months. Seems like at least one of them always needs something done at any given point, which is why it's important to have the beater running and reliable.

yachtsmanbill
06-07-2019, 09:36 AM
You fugger! Glad you were able to figger out the picture spacing problemo! ws

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