2006 ZO6 Brakes feeler thread

[ProdigyCustoms]

We have a deal to supply us unengraved, in other words, without Corvette on them, 2006 ZO6 Calipers. They will be priced much less then anyones best avaiable GM Corvette calipers. I am curious how many will be interesed in upgrading. It looks like they will be somewhere around $500 per caliper loaded, final pricing will come pretty soon. As you know they will bolt right on C5 brackets, but will require a aftermarket 14"rotor or ZO6 rotor. The aftermarket rotor is sure to be much less expesive, we are working on something also.

I can deliver calipers in late January. So stick your hand in the air if you think you are interested. Look for a Special purchase at GPSuerstore.com soon.

[Rubes]

I would be interested, but not sure if I would be ready (financially) by January, so my hand is kinda halfway up.

Rubes

[yody]

That price is too expensive. You can get GM calipers(should be out by end of month) for $225, and pads for about $100, so that would be $325 shipped. BTW the stock pads are pieces of crap. Also you can get Z06 rotors for like $100, aftermarkets are about 4-600 dollars(each). Also all of these prices are shipped to door

[yody]

Plus, these brakes aren't going to clear most wheels, there will probably be a bunch of them up for sale after everyone buys them and realizes they wont' work with their rims

[ProdigyCustoms]

As I understand, the GM are nearly $700 loaded.

[yody]

yeah, maybe your cost....lol the going rate for the full setup, pads, rotors, and calipers for all 4 is about $1750.

[ProdigyCustoms]

From?

[Samckitt]

What are the specs on the '06 Z06 calipers & pads? Aren't the rotors 14" & calipers 4 piston?

[protour_chevelle]

I'd be hoping for the prices to be backwards to whats being said right now. I can do without the "Corvette" on the calipers.... But seeing how their a little specific I think I'll just run a different more rim friendly caliper.

Edit: So I don't sound like a total ****. Its a pretty pimp lookin set-up. Lots of bling factor. :1st:

-Matt

[D Rock]

From what I understand it only takes a .4 inch spacer to run these compared to C5 calipers. So really quite a few rims should still fit even if a small spacer is required I believe the performance and bling of it would be worth it.

I'll be going with C5 front discs just becase I have to budget somewhere, I really wanted to run C6 Z06 Calipers but this car will never get done if I used what I wanted on it, as I said, gotta make sacrifaces somewhere.

Derek

[protour_chevelle]

From what I understand it only takes a .4 inch spacer to run these compared to C5 calipers. So really quite a few rims should still fit even if a small spacer is required.
Derek

Would it be awesome if life was that easy?

-Matt

[yody]

From what I understand it only takes a .4 inch spacer to run these compared to C5 calipers. So really quite a few rims should still fit even if a small spacer is required I believe the performance and bling of it would be worth it.

I'll be going with C5 front discs just becase I have to budget somewhere, I really wanted to run C6 Z06 Calipers but this car will never get done if I used what I wanted on it, as I said, gotta make sacrifaces somewhere.

Derek
Well .4" is about 1/2". That is a signifigant amount of space. Also if you odn't use a quality spacer thats gonna be pretty hard on your studs. 1/2" is enough to make your front wheels look like they are sticking out farther than the rears, and also cause rubbing/clearance issues.

[MrQuick]

actually you only need a 5/16" spacer which is .03125. not a big deal, I recommend longer studs with all these swaps. Cody quit whining

[TitoJones]

Yody-

Why do you continue to dodge the specific questions you get asked regarding these brakes? In the other thread you don't want to share PN with anyone. In this one you don't want to release your cheaper source for the brakes.
What gives? Afraid they will become popular and you'll look trendy by association? Bring the tech for the masses! Show us how/where to get an upgrade like this. Let us decide if we can fit them into our current wheel setup. Show PT a little love.
Tyler

[yody]

I might not even get these brakes. On the fence, still have them ordered. The bigger question is why do you care? don't you have some spindles to release? All the info has already been posted, why repeat it? I just see everyone getting all excited about something they might not even be able to use, or don't even need. Also Vince that 5/16" spacer is on what? a corvette wheel on a corvette? Everywheel is going to be different, only way to really know is wait for someone to come up with measurements, from the rotor moutning face to the outside edge of caliper, and then measure your own wheels. However most people with poplur billet wheels aren't going to work. If Frank my buddy wants to know where to get them cheaper thean I'm sure it won't be hard for a guy like him who is "in" with everyone to find out. These brakes are already hard enough to get right now, GM is only going to release so many of them, I just want to make sure I keep my place in line. PBR has stated that they would be releasing them aftermarket some time in spring, however according to frank looks like sooner, too bad the mark up is high

[sinned]

http://www.gmpartsdirect.com/results.cfm?singlepart=1&partnumber=C6

There you go Frank, 190ish for calipers + whatever pads you decide to run + shipping = around 350 or so each with GOOD pads.

Here is a scren shot of the "shopping cart" at GMDirect with OE calipers, pads, and rotors for the front with shipping included...not bad huh. A little cheaper than 700/ea for bare calipers.

[MrQuick]

Also Vince that 5/16" spacer is on what? a corvette wheel on a corvette? Everywheel is going to be different, only way to really know is wait for someone to come up with measurements
No if it had C5's on it and 18' rims then no additional spacer should be needed. Two guys are running them with no spacer. but yes one would have to trial fit them to see. Should be no problem.

[Ralph LoGrasso]

Frank, can you measure the width of one of the front calipers?

[yody]

No if it had C5's on it and 18' rims then no additional spacer should be needed. Two guys are running them with no spacer. but yes one would have to trial fit them to see. Should be no problem.
explain this, everything I have seen shows that people have to run spacers, unless runjning aftermarket wheels, and even then it is a tight squeeze(aftermarket wheel can still be on OEM style) How many Z06 brakes have you installed and mountes wheels up to sensai?

[MrQuick]

I don't think I have to explain...im not the one running the C6Z06 brakes. From what you have read?? explain that.
The Z06 boys talked to the guys that are running the C6Z06 calipers on their C5's with no spacers and they don't have any problems.Its close but they do not hit.They where are a Vette meet.

I have done plenty of C5 swaps and only a few needed a 5/16" spacer. Would you like a resume...grasshopper?

[Rick Dorion]

18" rims are a requirement?

[rizzos442]

18" wheels will have to be a minimum because of the new 14" front rotor. You used to be able to get away with using a 17" wheel when a 13" rotor is used. The other option is to run a set of custom brackets which lower your new caliper mounting pattern.

As for me...I went a different route in my brakes. I chose 2005 Cadillac CTS-V calipers. They are front and rear 4-piston Bremebo Calipers. They mounted to my front C5 brackets that I have, but the rear bracketry must be altered.
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[rizzos442]

Prodigy Customs,
What is your plan for the pad issue? Will it become an issue is more the question I have?
I would think that most poeple will be using aftermarket rotors that suit their vehicles. For my system, I kep the carry front rotors because they were 2 piece and ordered the inner section for my bolt pattern. Caddy uses a 6 bolt and I needed a 5. BUT, everyone is different...

[derekf]

Cody: It doesn't look like you're really in a position to go on the offensive. Folks have called you out on what you're saying (and more importantly, not saying). Until you answer them, you probably shouldn't go with the "don't start something you can't finish" bit.

Rizzos: Folks have already called Cody out. He'll either answer or he won't. Calling him out again won't help any.

Both of you: Calm down. Please don't make me lock the thread, in between the bickering there's some pretty good technical info and deleting posts just isn't much fun.

Jake: Don't encourage them.

In general: Your post count does NOT reflect your knowledge by any stretch of the imagination. I've got more posts than many on the board and I am not an expert on much of anything. Everyone has a low post count at some point.

Did I miss anyone or anything?

[ProdigyCustoms]

OK, let me square up a few things.

First, I started this thread as a "feeler thread" to explore the marketplace. I will be the first to admit I have not followed these Z06 brakes much. I am sponsored by, and will continue to by sponsored by Wilwood and Precision brakes, I do not need these brakes. I ran into these calipers quite by accident, at PRI, that is where the picture in sunny Orlando was taken, on the table at PRI. Michael spotted them while walking through, and it is quite possible we were the only vendors of interest that found them according to the rep there. When he found out who we were, we started discussing helping with distribution. They have some of them here, but did not have final pricing, but guessed they would be between $375 and $500 retail. According to the rep, he understood the factory Corvettes were $700 loaded so he assumed they would be 20% less. I told him I would go fishing and no thanks to Yody, but others that revealed the source (thanks), I started to find out the real cost of the Corvette calipers.

I will be staying in contact with my guy, and see if they come in less then the Corvette calipers. Even if they are the same price, I am sure many would rather have these that do not say Corvette. I will update these findings as they mature but keep in mind a feeler thread is just that, a feeler.

[TitoJones]

Yody-
I care because I want to offer my AFX spindles with them, should our clients want them.
I would also never use GM parts direct ever again. I ordered a few things from them at a much better price than my local dealer, and by the time they tacked on their 'handling' charge, I was over what my GM rep could have done. I was charged $104 for handling ($14.96 for shipping) on a $124.00 part. Screw them.

Tyler

[MrQuick]

Riz what did you use for a rotor on the Caddy stuff?

[Ralph LoGrasso]

All bickering has been removed or deleted. Stick to the tech...

[Travis B]

All bickering has been removed or deleted. Stick to the tech...


Let's not go there.

[Ralph LoGrasso]

Not going there in a quote, either.

I removed / deleted everyone's posts that were involved in the argument.

[rizzos442]

My rotors are simple. In the rear, I run a 12" 1980 Trans Am rotor which is plain jane right now. I will probably go slotted later on, but for now, it works. I need to get these on there to see if there are any issues.

On the front, I will run the C5 rotor. Main reason is because I have them here already. I already machined my hub for the c5 rotors too...so it would be silly to change all the sudden. Anyways, that is what I am using.

[68protouring454]

kudos to you for editing

[MrQuick]

sounds good riz, can you send me pictures of your set up? thanks
Kudo's top Ralph for taking down my work of art! LOL

If any one cares you can probably pick up a used set on the Z06 or Corvette boards. Alot of guys are going to bigger and possibly better due to negative internet publicity.

[Rick Dorion]

I'm thinking about going to 17's and upgrading from my current C4 to C5. This thread has me wondering about C6. Since I'm running the 13" C4 setup using a 1/4" spacer and thus being able to use 16" rims, would I be able to use 17" rims with a spacer and C6 calipers with 14" rotors?

[MrQuick]

i guess it would depend on the rims but its unlikely they would fit.