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Tincup
04-22-2018, 03:27 PM
I just finished installing my Wilwood 7/8" master and can't get a pedal. This master was brand new, and I sent it back to Wilwood for the recall. I finally get around to installing it in my 63 Hemi Dart to replace the 15/16" that was in there. I've bled it twice, and there is definitely no air in it. I can pump it till the cows come home and still no pedal, I'm guessing it's no good. Anyone else having issues?

GoodysGotaCuda
04-22-2018, 04:41 PM
Did you bench bleed it?

dhutton
04-22-2018, 04:57 PM
I would plug the ports and see if it builds pressure. That is the method I use to bench bleed.

Don

icemanrd19
04-22-2018, 05:01 PM
vaccuum bleed it from the reservior. After trying to bleed my buddies for 30 min and ZERO pedal i put a vaccuum pump on it, shoved a line into the reservoir and pumped away. After 5 min we had a solid pedal. see link below. Worked like a charm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jhGAceCpx4

Tincup
04-22-2018, 05:30 PM
Did you bench bleed it?

Yes,

Tincup
04-23-2018, 03:13 PM
Well I just got off the phone with Wilwood, as it turns out the 7/8" master is too small for my setup, they recommend a 15/16" master ( what I took out ). Looks like I'll have a Master for sale....

GoodysGotaCuda
04-23-2018, 04:41 PM
7/8" is a little small for me, but it works/bleeds fine. Not sure that another 1/16" is going to resolve any bleeding problems..

GoodysGotaCuda
04-26-2018, 04:58 PM
vaccuum bleed it from the reservior. After trying to bleed my buddies for 30 min and ZERO pedal i put a vaccuum pump on it, shoved a line into the reservoir and pumped away. After 5 min we had a solid pedal. see link below. Worked like a charm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jhGAceCpx4


I've seen quite a bit when it comes to cars, but this one was new to me. I went ahead and tried this on what I thought was a well-bleed system. I am pretty certain the air wasn't induced by my process and I was able to pull a ton of air out of the master cylinder.

The pedal feels slightly better, I'll know for sure when I go drive it next, I'm excited to see if things got better. They were pretty good before.

Tincup
04-27-2018, 05:24 AM
I've seen quite a bit when it comes to cars, but this one was new to me. I went ahead and tried this on what I thought was a well-bleed system. I am pretty certain the air wasn't induced by my process and I was able to pull a ton of air out of the master cylinder.

The pedal feels slightly better, I'll know for sure when I go drive it next, I'm excited to see if things got better. They were pretty good before.

Interesting, I might have to try that...

BondAR
05-29-2018, 08:25 PM
vaccuum bleed it from the reservior. After trying to bleed my buddies for 30 min and ZERO pedal i put a vaccuum pump on it, shoved a line into the reservoir and pumped away. After 5 min we had a solid pedal. see link below. Worked like a charm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jhGAceCpx4

I just tried this with my mightyvac and I couldn't believe the amount of air bubbles that came out! I also just installed a 7/8" wilwood master on my '69 cutlass, but in the process of chasing down leaks, air got into the system. Bled it a few times the regular way but still had a spongy pedal. Came back from a test run and it brakes leaps and bounds better than before with less effort and nice firm pedal. Thank you!!!

GoodysGotaCuda
05-30-2018, 02:44 AM
I just tried this with my mightyvac and I couldn't believe the amount of air bubbles that came out! I also just installed a 7/8" wilwood master on my '69 cutlass, but in the process of chasing down leaks, air got into the system. Bled it a few times the regular way but still had a spongy pedal. Came back from a test run and it brakes leaps and bounds better than before with less effort and nice firm pedal. Thank you!!!

I did notice that on my rear Wilwood port, if I pulled too hard of a vacuum, I'd suck past the m/c piston seal. I knew that because the dust boot that connects that seal area to the brake pushrod would collapse. So I believe I was pulling some of that air through the m/c while doing it. That said, it's probably best to pull a fairly light vacuum on the aft port of the m/c.

HotWheelz
05-30-2018, 06:50 PM
check pedal to piston -actuato-radjustment??