nova /camaro headers???

[jasonsnova]

So what's every one running for headers on the 68-72 novas /1st Gen camaros? I have a set of dynatech headers for my nova . My bud also has them on his and he just sent me a pic of his and the hang way too low for my car, as I just installed full ridetech suspension. ...his are low and he has stock suspension...mine would be ridiculess and scrapping on speed bumps.....any ideas. I please don't saw flip mount plates around I read that thread and it doesn't work lol.....

[carguy502]

I am rocking a set of Doug Thorley Tri-Ys on my 1969 Nova SBC (1 5/8" primaries, 2 1/2" collector). They make good power over the block huggers I was running (Sanderson) and have excellent ground clearance. My only gripe is that the 3 bolt collector is welded with a bolt hole at the bottom of the collector. I loose about 3/8" of ground clearance with that and scrape sometimes. This would be solved by a slip connector or a ball flange connector.

Don

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I am rocking a set of Doug Thorley Tri-Ys on my 1969 Nova SBC (1 5/8" primaries, 2 1/2" collector). They make good power over the block huggers I was running (Sanderson) and have excellent ground clearance. My only gripe is that the 3 bolt collector is welded with a bolt hole at the bottom of the collector. I loose about 3/8" of ground clearance with that and scrape sometimes. This would be solved by a slip connector or a ball flange connector.

Don

[jasonsnova]

Ok sorry guess I should of been more clear....my nova is lsx powered. And am also using powersteering and ride tech truturn. Here's a pic my bud sent me last night of his nova with a ls motor and his dynatech headers....and his car is stock suspension, my car sits significantly lower.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/IMG_2375-1.jpg (http://s78.photobucket.com/user/deerslyr1/media/IMG_2375.jpg.html)

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Ok sorry guess I should of been more clear....my nova is lsx powered. And am also using powersteering and ride tech truturn. Here's a pic my bud sent me last night of his nova with a ls motor and his dynatech headers....and his car is stock suspension, my car sits significantly lower.
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2016/02/IMG_2375-1.jpg (http://s78.photobucket.com/user/deerslyr1/media/IMG_2375.jpg.html)

[Schwartz Performance]

The hookers don't hang down bad like that, same with the Stainless Works if your budget allows (around $900).

-Dale

[Toddoky]

I wouldn't describe the ground clearance of the newer Hooker 1st-gen F-body/ 3rd-gen X-body LS swap headers as "don't hang down too bad" by the evidence given in the photo below. The ground clearance is awesome, but you have to use the Hooker engine brackets and transmission crossmember to achieve the same results. In addition to stainless steel, you can also buy the Hooker headers in mild steel with black paint or ceramic coating finish options, so pricing is suitable to a wide range of users. 123397

[jasonsnova]

The hookers don't hang down bad like that, same with the Stainless Works if your budget allows (around $900).

-Dale
well I wouldn't say its out of budget but... planning on a turbo build next year so to spend 1k on headers to only sell them a year later isn't the best option.
I see ebay has some cheap shortys ....anyone have any input on those?? I suspect it will cost some hp with 1.58" tubes and 2.5" collectors....

[jasonsnova]

I wouldn't describe the ground clearance of the newer Hooker 1st-gen F-body/ 3rd-gen X-body LS swap headers as "don't hang down too bad" by the evidence given in the photo below. The ground clearance is awesome, but you have to use the Hooker engine brackets and transmission crossmember to achieve the same results. In addition to stainless steel, you can also buy the Hooker headers in mild steel with black paint or ceramic coating finish options, so pricing is suitable to a wide range of users. 123397

that's not to bad .... but im running carb shop mounts. what they run you??

[Toddoky]

The 12618HKR Hooker swap bracket kit is currently $127 on Summit's site as an example.

[jasonsnova]

Does the stainless works headers work with factory power steering and ridetech true turn?? Anyone know?

[jasonsnova]

so....I just called ridetech and they told me hookers will hit with the tru turn and so will dougs. they are supposed call me back with a better suggestion....hopefully

[Toddoky]

so....I just called ridetech and they told me hookers will hit with the tru turn and so will dougs. they are supposed call me back with a better suggestion....hopefully

That depends on the Hooker headers they are talking about, the older 2289HKR headers or the new Hooker Blackheart headers that go with the new Hooker 1st-gen engine brackets and trans crossmember. The 2289's are not compatible, but the Blackheart headers are.

[jasonsnova]

That depends on the Hooker headers they are talking about, the older 2289HKR headers or the new Hooker Blackheart headers that go with the new Hooker 1st-gen engine brackets and trans crossmember. The 2289's are not compatible, but the Blackheart headers are.

Have you installed these on a car with true turn?

[Toddoky]

Have you installed these on a car with true turn?

Personally no, helping customers who have put them on their cars yes. I am the designer here at Holley responsible for the design and development of all Hooker LS swap products, which gives you a little more insight as to how involved I am with the product. There was a reported interference issue with the Tru-Turn system with one tube on the passenger side header when the new Hooker 1st-gen swap headers came out and I modified 4-5 sets for customers to get them to fit with the Tru-Turn set-ups on their cars. I then revised the production headers to incorporate the same modifications to the design.


I've never seen them installed in person, but you can seek out member cwylie here or on ls1tech and ask him how well the headers worked out for him as he's one of the guys I did the modification for initially.

[carguy502]

Ok sorry guess I should of been more clear....my nova is lsx powered. And am also using powersteering and ride tech truturn.

Aww, I have your exact setup minus the LSX, lol. Wish I had one of those...

Don

[jasonsnova]

Personally no, helping customers who have put them on their cars yes. I am the designer here at Holley responsible for the design and development of all Hooker LS swap products, which gives you a little more insight as to how involved I am with the product. There was a reported interference issue with the Tru-Turn system with one tube on the passenger side header when the new Hooker 1st-gen swap headers came out and I modified 4-5 sets for customers to get them to fit with the Tru-Turn set-ups on their cars. I then revised the production headers to incorporate the same modifications to the design.


I've never seen them installed in person, but you can seek out member cwylie here or on ls1tech and ask him how well the headers worked out for him as he's one of the guys I did the modification for initially.

Thanks....looks like I may end up with those ... do you have a a part number for those? ....in either coated or stainless preferably 1.75 or 1.78 tubes/3" collector...thanks!

[jasonsnova]

May of found them.....these??
https://www.holley.com/products/exhaust/headers_and_exhaust_manifolds/all_headers/parts/70101307-RHKR

[Toddoky]

That would be them...just make sure you understand that they only work with the Hooker engine swap brackets, which are part number 12618HKR.

[jasonsnova]

Uhg....any idea if they would work with carb shop brackets? If I got to buy them no big deal at this point I guess....
Anyone one here a Holley dealer? Looks like holley is about to get alot of my $$$...headers...brackets and the hp EFI/harness I was about to buy...

[jasonsnova]

Any idea on engine set back with these mounts? Problem is my car was mocked up with what I have currently and the car just came off the rotisserie. ...I don't care to modify my shifter location....

[jasonsnova]

Any input on these Hooker mid lengths?
https://www.holley.com/products/exhaust/headers_and_exhaust_manifolds/mid_length/parts/2474-1HKR

[Toddoky]

I have no idea what level of fitment/compatibility you'll experience with any mounts other than the Hooker part number I referenced. The fact that the Hooker brackets are based around the use of later-style clamshell mounts makes them unique and provides tube routing clearance that doesn't exist with using the factory frame stands and plate style swap brackets. If your Car Shop plates are the common 1" set-back pieces (AKA "stock position"), I would say don't waste your time with the Hooker parts as your shifter hole location will change.

[rallystyle]

i am running the mids with my holley setup. they fit perfect thanks to todd. they clear the tru turn setup no problem there.

[Toddoky]

Thanks for popping in rallystyle...are you using the Hooker engine brackets also?

[jasonsnova]

kinda thinking may the mids would work..... rally any pics of your set up?? thx

[rallystyle]

yes i am using the full holley setup. mounts, headers, and exhaust. i dont have any pics of them. todd has some pics on the ls1tech page.

[jasonsnova]

rally what are you using for a steering box??

[rallystyle]

stock box for now. waiting to find a 670 to put in. i know they both fit. clearance is good all around it. a jeep grand cherokee would work also as its the same size as the stock one and will have a quicker steering ratio. knowing how well there parts fit i am also going to use there chevelle swap kit on another car.

[jasonsnova]

Sounds like the mids will work then .....thx !