72 olds build

[Rogie]

here are a few pics of a build started on a 72 olds cutlass a few months ago my grandfather bought this car new and it has been in the family ever since. so far front and rear tubular control arms coil overs 373 posi with ls rear brakes body bushing front willwood brakes and lines done paint and body getting close to done.

[Rogie]

water sanding

[no go nova]

Nice cutlass can't wait to see more on it.

[csouth]

NIce to see another Cutlass... What are your plans for the drivetrain, etc?

[240g]

Gotta love an Olds.

[Rogie]

drivetrain will be a olds 455 with msd fuel injection, edelbrock aluminum heads and a 4l80e trans I really thought about a ls1 but my 455 was rebuilt about 5,000 miles ago I cant wait to start on the engine but have to finish water sanding and buffing to free up space in my garage we just got done painting the last parts tonight so I hope I can post some picks of the car polished out this weekend

[deejai35]

Looks like you are making great progress. I like what you have done so far and the plans to keep the 455. Keep us posted.

[Dc2x4drvr]

Nice job!

[carguykeith]

Curious to see how you like that MSD fuel injection, not a lot of press on it and it appears to be a good system. How are you planning on controling the 4l80e?

[Rogie]

Curious to see how you like that MSD fuel injection, not a lot of press on it and it appears to be a good system. How are you planning on controling the 4l80e?
MSD has a transmission control that works with the atomic EFI and a 6al I thought I would give it a try.

[Rogie]

deck lid, doors and hood buffed. Doors, deck lid and spoiler installed we only had to paint it 4 times

[Nicks67GTO]

Nice!

[Mr Nick]

Thumbs up for keeping it Olds powered!

[Rogie]

parts came in from olds rocket parts alum heads, roller rockers, gaskets, cam and intake also picked up a 4l80e, reverse flow water pump from diesel olds, oil pan, push rods and serpentine belt brackets and pulleys from 4.3 l Chevy truck I have a lot of pics but cant upload for some reason

[Rogie]

here are some pics had to resize them

[Rogie]

Chevy serpentine set up and heads on engine almost ready for a transmission

[Rogie]

engine and trans installed cooler line fittings and shift lever real close to floor pan I guess I should cut floor pan was hoping to slide trans cross member back but can't even get cross member inside of frame rails. I wonder if the after market cross members are worth buying if I cut and reweld the original it will not be easy to take the trans out in the future. what have some some of you guys done or seen done to fix these problems

[Rogie]

engine and trans installed cooler line fittings and shift lever real close to floor pan I guess I should cut floor pan was hoping to slide trans cross member back but can't even get cross member inside of frame rails. I wonder if the after market cross members are worth buying if I cut and reweld the original it will not be easy to take the trans out in the future. what have some some of you guys done or seen done to fix these problems

ok I had to buy a aftermarket cross member worked great summit sales 4l80e to 6an adapters put a 90 on the end notched and rewelded the floor pan for the return line and ran braided hoses threw frame. Also got Ford fan installed to radiator and vintage air condenser

[Rogie]

here are pics

[Dusted]

Looks good! Can't wait to see how you like the EFI.

[GNon18s]

Nice seeing some non-LS power on here! I always liked how the rear fenders bulged on these cars. They look tuff!

[Rogie]

Looks good! Can't wait to see how you like the EFI.

The MSD atomic seemed to be the right choice because of the timing and elec trans control but we will seem hopefully sooner than later the only real trick is getting my wife to let me buy it . It cost almost as much as the 93 5.0 conv I just bought

[Rogie]

making a little progress fenders and fender wells on wiring started put 6al and Volvo relays for elec fan where battery was

[csouth]

nice progress

[Rogie]

been a while since I posted work is inching along, wiring and modifying bumpers trying to tuck them and weld up bumper bolts well see how they look when painted hope all that work wasn't for nothing. Iam trying to use the centers from some three piece wheel and buy some one piece barrels for them they are 20'''. Dose anyone know what some good backspacing tire combos are for this car? I want the rear dishes as deep as I can get them.-

[keepat]

Bumpers looks great!
Pat

[71OLDS]

been a while since I posted work is inching along, wiring and modifying bumpers trying to tuck them and weld up bumper bolts well see how they look when painted hope all that work wasn't for nothing. Iam trying to use the centers from some three piece wheel and buy some one piece barrels for them they are 20'''. Dose anyone know what some good backspacing tire combos are for this car? I want the rear dishes as deep as I can get them.-

Nice job! Always great to see another Olds on here and even better with the Olds motor as Nick already mentioned. I'm running 18x8 and 18x10 wheels on my 71 with 255/45/18s and 305/45/18s. I can tell you the BS is different with stock spindles and stock rotors. With B-body spindles and 13" rotors on the front the perfect BS to center the wheel and tire was 5.25" and in the rear with the 12" rotors it was 6". The lips had to be rolled in the back too. This puts both wheels and tires exactly centered for my setup so there's no rubbing or issues anywhere. The B-Body spindles and rotors pushed everything OUT so the BS had to be increased to push everything back in. I think on the stock setup with my old wheels the correct BS was around 4.5" front and 5.5" but not 100% on that. The bottom line make sure you measure and check everything and if you are adding rotors or spindles don't measure anything until AFTER you have those installed. To go as big as you can with no rubbing or issues there is no room for error. There is only one BS that will work unless you are going to do mods.

Here's a few recent pics for reference - mine is still a work in progress too but getting there:

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_0861_zpsgewxia2z-1.jpg (http://s303.photobucket.com/user/jl71442/media/IMG_0861_zpsgewxia2z.jpg.html)

https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2015/11/IMG_0860_zpsdavzarl4-1.jpg (http://s303.photobucket.com/user/jl71442/media/IMG_0860_zpsdavzarl4.jpg.html)

-Joe

[csouth]

been a while since I posted work is inching along, wiring and modifying bumpers trying to tuck them and weld up bumper bolts well see how they look when painted hope all that work wasn't for nothing. Iam trying to use the centers from some three piece wheel and buy some one piece barrels for them they are 20'''. Dose anyone know what some good backspacing tire combos are for this car? I want the rear dishes as deep as I can get them.-

Nice job you did with the bumpers... I'd love to see them in person.

Are you looking for barrels to have those faces welded in to? Trying to figure out your thought process to see if it can be accomplished. Wheels are typically, 1 piece cast or forged, 2 piece billet or 3 piece.

[Rogie]

they are 3 piece wheels but as cool as I think they are every set I have had leak at some point. I have heard you can get 1 piece barrels and bolt the centers to them, I just don't know what barrels to look for ( fit my centers ) as far as fitment I guess I will just bolt a center to the hub and measure, By the way cs south how is your olds project going? I was looking forward to seeing pic of your car

[csouth]

they are 3 piece wheels but as cool as I think they are every set I have had leak at some point. I have heard you can get 1 piece barrels and bolt the centers to them, I just don't know what barrels to look for ( fit my centers ) as far as fitment I guess I will just bolt a center to the hub and measure, By the way cs south how is your olds project going? I was looking forward to seeing pic of your car

Its coming along, finishing up the final wiring and plumbing in an effort to fire before Xmas. I'm actually down in Atlanta for the holiday....
I wonder if you meant 2 piece wheel barrel? 1 piece means just that, the wheel and the face are 1 piece. Its usually poured cast into a mold or machine forged. a 2 piece wheel would have a barrel as you speak. However I still don't see where you'd bolt the face because 2 piece wheels typically have the faces welded to the barrel.

[Rogie]

I have heard of a one piece wheel barrel to mount the forged center. From a friend, he is looking into it for me. This is new territory for me ( what part of Atlanta are you in)?

[csouth]

I'm in the southwest side by Six Flags... I used to live here

[Rogie]

I'm in the southwest side by Six Flags... I used to live here

cool that's not to far from me how long are you in town?

I talk to a guy in Cal about some one piece barrels he said choices are for front 8 1/2'' with 3 1/2 '' dish or 9'' with 4'' dish and for rear 10'' with 5'' dish and about 4 3/4'' back spacing

[csouth]

I leave sun at noon. I'll pm you my number in case you have time for me to check the car...

[Rogie]

I leave sun at noon. I'll pm you my number in case you have time for me to check the car...

ill give you a call looking forward to someone else's opinion, all my friends are into imports or German cars

[72olds]

Hey Rogie- Awesome build...I am at about the same point with my 72 Cutlass S. Would you mind if I PM you a few questions? I am staying Olds powered as well but opted to go the strange route and stay with a built 350

[Rogie]

Pulled car outside under its own power today still a ton to figure out.
Headliner for moon roof, brake booster not acting right, steel braided hoses won't hold on high pressure side of power steering pump, need new tourq converter stock one wants to idel to low in reverse and drive.

[badolds]

Looking real good. Are the hoses leaking at the hose ends? Those teflon hoses are a pain to get right. Mark them with a sharpie to make sure the hose end is not pushing the hose out when you tighten them up. I don't know jack about fuel injection but with a carburetor if it idles too low in gear you would need to adjust the idle screws with the car in gear until there is only 100-200 rpm drop when you put it in gear. I am sure there is a way to adjust the low speed fuel ratio with your setup. Your brake booster may be acting funny because your engine is not making enough vacuum, It may start working better when you get your fuel injection adjusted correctly. I put a hydroboost on mine and am very happy with it.

Dan