1967 Camaro carbon fiber front frame

[NightRider12]

Madness or interesting ?

[rchaskin]

Interesting for sure....LOL!!

I am surprised that no one has made an aluminum one though.

[NightRider12]

Interesting for sure....LOL!!

I am surprised that no one has made an aluminum one though.

Yeah, I have always thought the same about aluminium too, so why not in carbon ?
Some cars and bikes utilize it

[Build-It-Break-It]

Because no one is going to want to pay for it when it's done. It'll be way over anyone's price range for sure. The R&D to build a carbon fiber frame wouldn't be worth the investment in time or money. They're would be no profit in it for anyone. If a carbon fiber anvil hood costs around $1000 and it's basically flat how much do you think a subframe would cost? $15,000?

I think aluminum would be easy tho. But again pricey to build.

[Schwartz Performance]

Anvil's $1000 hood doesn't include the up front R&D costs. You're probably looking at $30k plus for a custom front frame. It'd have to be partially aluminum since I wouldn't want to fasten a steel heim joint to a carbon fiber plate.. Since it'd probably crack. Lots of time would be invested.

Just carbon vinyl wrap one.. call it carbon. ;)

-Dale

[bergers59]

the advantage wouldn't be worth it with the time and money put into one. Since it's sprung mass there are much easier ways to lose weight on a car. Now that said, I'd like to see what it takes to make some F1 style carbon fiber a-arms

[David Pozzi]

Ring bros did a mustang in carbon fiber. It's on a steel frame though. I don't know if the car would have good enough torsional rigidity.

[parsonsj]

I don't think that a cf sub-frame modeled after a steel version would work at all. I think it would have to be a complete front end (incorporating the inner fenders and radiator core support) with some fastening bits in aluminum (like Dale said) for the control arms, engine mounts, steering, and the like. I'd also guess that the remaining front body panels would need to be a single piece with numerous fastening points where the two pieces join.

There's also the substantial problem of fastening it to the steel body. The big 4 bolt system used by GM would probably need to be replaced with 8-10 fasteners to spread the load, along with clever ways of attaching the body panels to get the gaps right.

$30k? I'd say $100 to $300k. Definitely would be cool.

[OG_Racing]

I don't think that a cf sub-frame modeled after a steel version would work at all. I think it would have to be a complete front end (incorporating the inner fenders and radiator core support) with some fastening bits in aluminum (like Dale said) for the control arms, engine mounts, steering, and the like. I'd also guess that the remaining front body panels would need to be a single piece with numerous fastening points where the two pieces join.

There's also the substantial problem of fastening it to the steel body. The big 4 bolt system used by GM would probably need to be replaced with 8-10 fasteners to spread the load, along with clever ways of attaching the body panels to get the gaps right.

$30k? I'd say $100 to $300k. Definitely would be cool.

if your going to drop that kind of coin, it would be a nominal amount extra to do the whole chassis..

[parsonsj]

if your going to drop that kind of coin, it would be a nominal amount extra to do the whole chassis..

There ya go: monocoque Camaros!

[Carl @ Chassisworks]

It's definitely possible. I think that 100k would be the rock bottom for anything that would be worth having. CarboTech used to make a CF Ducati frame which was 10-15k if memory serves me. John Parsons has it right, there would have to be a lot of associated parts to help make the chassis functional.

We made a blower drive plate out of carbon 'billet' from UltraCarbon.