Led Headlights

[Tom5410]

Saw the Stabil 71 Camaro on Car fix the other night. Interesting front end design, but sweet headlights.
Has anyone used these and what would need to be done to make these work in a 67 camaro.

A buddy of mine just put these in his Jeep and they are very nice quality and throw light big time!

Thoughts


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When properly mounted, exceeds FMVSS-108 and CMVSS-108 DOT requirements for low beam and high beam performance
-Excellent option for light, medium and heavy-duty trucks, off-road vehicles, classic cars, motorcycles and more.
-Metalized reflector optics provide a lighting experience that smooth and clean across the driving surface
-Provides a brighter, crisper and whiter light output, closer to the color temperature of daylight, dramatically improving light projection distance and overall visibility
-Durability and dependability of LED lighting provides a solid-state, bulb-free headlamp design that impervious to damage from shock and vibration
-Military grade, die-cast aluminum housing and non-yellowing, polycarbonate lens offer optimum protection against damage from impact, roadside debris and other hazards
-Electronics are sealed in epoxy to resist from damage caused by corrosion or moisture
-Advanced circuitry protects against voltage spikes up to 600v
-Drop-in replacement for #6014, 6015, 6016, H6024 and Par 56 headlamp designs
-Uses standard, H4, 3-blade wiring connector
-Equipped with Truck-Lite 3-Year Limited Warranty.

7'' Round LED Headlamp, Complex Reflector Optics Design
Material:
Hard-coated polycarbonate lens
eCoat aluminum housing and internal structures
Metalized Reflector
16 Gauge Wire
Light Source:
2 LED Arrays
9v-33v Multi-volt design works with both
12v and 24v systems
Designed At:
12.8v, 1.80a (low beam), 3.60 amps (high beam)
25.6v, 1.00a (low beam), 1.80 amps (high beam)
1,300 Lumens
Additional Specifications:
Operating temperature range: -40˚C to 50˚C
Overvoltage protection to 600v, w/constant output
Mechanical aim
NOTE:
Fits all Jeep's with 7" Round Headlights
Truck-Lite is now offering a Pulse Width Modulation (PWM) Adapter Harness that eliminates headlight flicker in 2007- present Jeep® JK models. This H13 to H4 adapter will store power during "on" time which allows the lamp to utilize constant “on” energy thus eliminating the flicker.

[Decline]

AH yes the Truck lite 27270c... As made famous by the Mark Stielow mayhem camaro.

I have them in my 1969. No modification required. Direct replacement.
i just took out the old headlight and replaced it with the trucklite housing. the only thing of note is that edge on the cast aluminum housing where the stock bracket sits is a little deeper so the headlights "stick out" past the trim rim a little..maybe 1/4 inch. Once they're both in you cant tell

I dont run that resistor and have no flickering. Just plug the trucklite plug directly into the stock plug.

These are super nice units. build quality is excellent and light out put is on par with my GFs nissan leaf which has OEM LED headlights. Not to mention they look cool as #@&$..i smile every time I turn them on..Got mine on Ebay for $350 for the pair..worth every penny just for the safety of actually being able to see
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[Schwartz Performance]

We've used them in several builds and have been happy. They do require a bit of modification to the inner bucket or outer rim, so they're not a 5 minute replacement like the stock ones.
They work really well though!

-Dale

[Nothingface5384]

Check out

Www.jwspeaker.com

[raustinss]

5 3/4" for us cool kids with the Chevelles

[CarlC]

Check out

Www.jwspeaker.com

One of the best practical additions that the Camaro has received. James Shipka, Jimi Day, and I had other drivers following us at night during OLoA since we literally lit up the whole road with the JW lights. Roger at Ironworks carries them and are worth every penny.

It looks like they have 5-3/4" versions now, and like the 7", bucket mods are needed.

More info here https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/95495-Team-Honor-Flight-Camaro-takes-on-the-2013-One-Lap-of-America!?highlight=honor+flight

[Tom5410]

Thanks guys for your feedback! When you say bucket mods, can you be more specific? I am guessing that the hole in the back of the bucket needs to be enlarged so the back of the new light fixture fits properly?

[130fe]

When running these LED headlights, are relays needed?

[Peter Mc Mahon]

I'm from Ontario, and I bought mine from Traction.[they supply equipment to big truck industry, open to the public] Mine cost $185 Canadian each, so not a bad deal with your dollar.

[Ripper]

Anyone have a picture of illumination geometry (or whatever it's called)?

this;
https://static1.pt-content.com/images/pt/2014/04/s2z6z4-1.jpg

[Mr Nick]

I think "cut off" is the term you're looking for.

[CKreations]

Those lights are on my shopping list. As soon as the car runs and actually needs headlights I'm on it!

[Nothingface5384]

5 3/4" for us cool kids with the Chevelles

I'm Tempted to get 4 Hi/low versions of the Model 8630s

[Decline]

As far as fitment....The back of the trucklites is round as opposed to the JWs which stepped, so it fits inside adjustment bracket pretty snuggly. I think the only thing that trimming the bracket would do is sink the housing in the hole more more. If you look at my pic ypu csan see the lights stick out of the trim rim about 1/2" as opposed to being flush. I didnt think it was worth messing with...Once you tighten down the lock ring, the headlights arent going anywhere

Also im my opinion the JWs are kinda ugly and too "obvious"..Plus in the pic the light out put looks blue..Might just be the camera..The light out put on the truck lites is kinda purpleish like OEM HIDS/LEDS
Ill try and get a pic tonight if i remember

[Ripper]

I think "cut off" is the term you're looking for.

Yes, that was it. Thanks.

Any pics of the cut off?

[Decline]

When running these LED headlights, are relays needed?

No relay. I just plugged it in the stock harness
From what I read the relay is supposed to prevent flickering in late model jeeps

[Decline]

cutoff
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[camrat68]

where did you buy your lights, Decline? I tried looking for "Ironworks" and had no luck with anything related to lighting.

Jim

[TheJDMan]

I installed a pair and they fit the 68 buckets and rings with NO modifications. I have heard that there could be problems clearing the RS headlight doors They also needed NO relay. Simple plug and go.

[130fe]

You can pick them up on EBay for $338 shipped (pair).

[Decline]

where did you buy your lights, Decline? I tried looking for "Ironworks" and had no luck with anything related to lighting.

Jim

Ebay from truck-trailor-direct for $331 plus tax.

[cspecken]

Has anyone been able to find these in 5 3/4" for the early A Body cars?

[Nothingface5384]

Has anyone been able to find these in 5 3/4" for the early A Body cars?

JWSpeakers
Model 8630s
doesnt matter if its 64 abody or 72 its same dimension light

[65bu]

I guess i'm not getting it...I can't find any info on the 5/3/4 versions of the Round LED Headlamp, Complex Reflector Optics Design

[Y-TRY]

Are the truck lites too deep to clear RS doors? (68)

[snappytravis]

Just curious if anyone knows the answer to the last post? Can these be used with hideaway headlights. I would think with some mods to the headlight buckets.

[Schwartz Performance]

We've used them on two 69 RS front end cars. They do require mods to the buckets.

-Dale

[CampbellshotrodsAZ]

JWSpeakers
Model 8630s
doesnt matter if its 64 abody or 72 its same dimension light

I know it's an old post but just for future viewers... 71-72 Chevelle is not the same as the earlier Chevelles. 64-70 is the 5-3/4", 71-72 is the 7".

[nekkidhillbilly]

http://www.vleds.com/headlights/led.html

or
http://www.oraclelights.com/

can use stock composite housings if you dont like the looks of the others.

[130fe]

I just swapped over to the truck lite 27270c on my 68 (from standard halogens). I got lucky and found somebody selling them on Ebay for $100 for the pair, the guy was trading in his jeep. Here is a comparison form the old halogen to the new ones. Haven't had a chance to see the difference (on the road) but the light pattern on the wall is much brighter and wider with the LEDs.

[grendel]

I'm Tempted to get 4 Hi/low versions of the Model 8630s

I did that in my black 68 GMC C15, with relays that removed the head light switch from the power circuit. A thing of beauty at night.

Had to cut most of the stock head light bucket out and hole saw the radiator support on the inner lights.

[grendel]

http://www.vleds.com/headlights/led.html

or
http://www.oraclelights.com/

can use stock composite housings if you dont like the looks of the others.

Oracle LEDs take a boat load of cutting to the head light buckets. Same with the JW Speakers or Truck-lite for most classic cars. Good news is that the aluminum housing is very stiff. I used them in a few projects.

I've used the drop in LED bulb and unless you get the right housing, it really makes the light worse. I put an H4 replacement in my Ducati Monster 1200s to very good effect, but not so hot in the Ciba G-Code housings I used in my Jeep CJ7.

I know it's a 4x4 site, but lights are lights. My friend Gil did a pretty decent comparison:

http://www.jkowners.com/tech/lights/ In his review, he mentions HID drop in bulbs. I also lump LED drop in bulbs in the same bucket, as it's the quality of the housing, not the bulb.

The Oracles were not out at the time, but I've run all the lights we're talking about. I'd place the Oracles slightly above the Truck Lites in performance and slightly below them in looks. Truck light also does not make a 5.75" light (that I know of). They do look more like old school headlights.

[65-fastback]

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[CapSS92]

I saw this just came out. Might be an easy solution if you already upgraded your headlights. I use Hella E-code headlights on my 65 Chevelle. I might pick up a set of these to try in 'em.

https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/led-headlight-bulbs-conversion-kits/led-headlight-kit-9004-led-headlight-bulbs-conversion-kit-with-built-in-fan/2116/4805/

[aps63]

Has anybody put the truck lites in a 70 -73 Camaro? If so, did you have to modify the headlight buckets?

[aps63]

Just for everyones information, they fit perfect into a 1970 Camaro with no modification.

[GTOtzel]

Check these out. Although these are listed as Mustang they will fit anything using a 7" or 5-3/4" headlight. Many styles.
http://www.cjponyparts.com/headlight-kit-led-5-3-4-1969/p/HLA55/
http://www.cjponyparts.com/delta-tech-headlight-led-pair-1969/p/HLA2/
http://www.cjponyparts.com/delta-tech-headlight-led-pair-1965-1968-1970-1973/p/HLA4L/

These can be used in any sealed bean style housing that accepts an H4 Bulb
http://www.cjponyparts.com/oracle-lighting-headlight-bulb-led-h4-replacement-pair-1965-1973/p/BULBH4LED/

[David Pozzi]

Has anyone tried these? http://www.mustangproject.com/ProductDisplay.aspx?id=02b3718d-aa49-410c-9630-58236775e1af

[cspecken]

Has anyone tried these? http://www.mustangproject.com/ProductDisplay.aspx?id=02b3718d-aa49-410c-9630-58236775e1af

I am planning on running a set of 5 3/4 for my 1964 GTO from xtremeledsonline. They sell the same light you are referring to. https://www.xtremeledsonline.com/store/ Click on the LED Headlight Kits on the left side of the page.

[1967ls2]

True projectors. Bought mine from dapper lighting.

[q67]

I bought some LEDs from WATSON STREET WORKS and they did not clear the hide away head light motors on my 69. (the aftermarket set up) They look the same as the ones from ORICLE 112008

[LowFast]

Very nice, do you have a link to where you purchased from?

[CKreations]

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[hotrod56]

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What brand are those?

[CampbellshotrodsAZ]

They look like the Trucklites, due to the horizontal split. But I know Anzo had a similar style at SEMA last year, but I can't seem to find anything on their website yet.

[parsonsj]

They draw 1.8A/3.6A for regular and high beam, respectively. No relays are needed.

[jclough]

We've used them on two 69 RS front end cars. They do require mods to the buckets.

-Dale

Hi Dale,

Can you pleas provide more information on the nature of the mods required to the buckets? I'd like to go this route with an aftermarket (Classic Industries) RS front end kit and would like to better understand the requirements prior to dropping a g note on the parts only to find out it's too difficult for a DIYer.

Thanks!

Jeff

[A BAD SS]

I have the 5 3/4 headlights on my 69 Chevelle. The install didnt require any modification to my headlight buckets. I wired them up in the garage and they have been working perfectly ever since. I've had them for 2yrs now. I also customized my set just a bit...Here you can see the four light set on my Chevelle, and the 2 light set on my buddys Monte Carlo.
http://haloheadlights.co/ The webpage takes a little time to load....So hurry up and wait....lol...
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[Cornbreadx]

Interesting that they offer multi color options. That's cool. Not sure I like the spread on the halo though. Mine are much tighter and a lot more, but I can't change the color on a whim.

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I guess it depends on the look you want right? :-)

[TheJDMan]

Here's a shot of my Trucklite 27270C.

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[I_make_oil]

These are the headlights I'm installing in my 66 Mustang. They are made by JW speaker. All the reviews are very good. The appear to be well made. I should have them installed in the next month or so once the car is painted.

[gray86hach]

Have the trucklite in dad's chevelle all summer and he is really happy with them. Worth the money.

Tim

[rennat_2006]

Where is the best deal to buy these?
Even with all of the trucklite stuff we buy at work these things are still stupid expensive.

[gray86hach]

I did notice that the garbage trucks are using truck lite now.

Tim

[minendrews68]

I think Sylvania makes a split bulb now. The ZEVO sealed beam led. They're also around $200 ea. though.

[69LSX]

Where is the best deal to buy these?
Even with all of the trucklite stuff we buy at work these things are still stupid expensive.

Got mine off of ebay. $330 shipped.

[CampbellshotrodsAZ]

I did notice that the garbage trucks are using truck lite now.

Tim

Lol, I thought it was just my town of Gilbert Arizona wasting money on buying Trucklites for their garbage trucks. Saw that a couple years ago and thought "WTF?!?!" The garbage trucks have nicer headlights than my old cars!!

[xj220]

I just installed a set of JW Speaker 8700 Evo IIs with a harness from CJ Pony Parts that converts the wiring to relays. So far I love the lights, they put out a nice, white light with an even spread. The brights work very well, too. I was worried about discoloration or a weird beam pattern as I saw in some pics, but because of the long hood of my car and the lower mounting (compared to Jeeps who usually run them), I saw no such things unless I'm close to a wall or another car. Here are some pics:
High beams
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Low beams
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[Godbolt]

Very nice. How was the install? Any modifications needed?

[xj220]

No mods needed at all, they plugged right in and fit within the stock buckets.

[camarodude87]

I need help guys. I ordered the truck-light 27270C for my 69 camaro. Its not a direct bolt up. The chrome ring is about 1/2 of a inch away from the headlight bucket. Not sure how you guys are directly bolting up these headlights. Help anybody? Thanks Ray

[130fe]

Ray, can you post a picture up of what issue you are having?

[camarodude87]

I just figured it out. That beauty ring was a pain in the ass slipping over the truck light. Have it all mounted up. Looks great. Light output is freaking awesome. Lights up my whole garage.

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[jclough]

We've used them on two 69 RS front end cars. They do require mods to the buckets.

-Dale

Hi Dale,

Can you pleas provide more information on the nature of the mods required to the buckets? I'd like to go this route with an aftermarket (Classic Industries) RS front end kit and would like to better understand the requirements prior to dropping a g note on the parts only to find out it's too difficult for a DIYer.

Thanks!

Jeff

A quick update on this. I was able to install the Trucklites into a Classic Industries RS conversion kit without any modifications to the headlight buckets. The only mod required was to shave off the tiny nib on the bottom of the headlight itself. I'll post some pics as soon as I figure out how.

[CKreations]

GE, rebranded trucklites

[rennat_2006]

GE, rebranded trucklites

Any cheaper?

[CKreations]

Any cheaper?

They were cheaper with the $100 off coupon code that I used. Unfortunately I think thats long gone by this point.

[Nothingface5384]

Bump
Seems like JW speaker updated there 5.75 speakers
Not sure if I dig the look, but they're a good bit brighter

Dapper lighting is taking preorderes on there new 575 lights (dot approved) if that even matters to anyone
My bro is be getting the 7in Dapper v2 Black 5k HID, but he doesn't know yet lol

[grendel]

Bump
Seems like JW speaker updated there 5.75 speakers
Not sure if I dig the look, but they're a good bit brighter

Dapper lighting is taking preorderes on there new 575 lights (dot approved) if that even matters to anyone
My bro is be getting the 7in Dapper v2 Black 5k HID, but he doesn't know yet lol

The turn signals are nice, too. The lean feature on the motorcycle lights is pimp.

I have factory HID's on a few rigs and LED's on others... I like the LED's better. :)

[Pete68]

Great headlight review and info: https://youtu.be/XNZT6QqHHOo

[icemanrd19]

Led truck lights work with the rs retro electro doors? Didn't know if the led would cause a issue with the headlight doors opening and closing

[jamminj007]

Led truck lights work with the rs retro electro doors? Didn't know if the led would cause a issue with the headlight doors opening and closing

Not on mine. I am currently going to cut the "grills" out of my inner doors and flush mount either a mesh, or tinted acrylic glass.152394

[icemanrd19]

you need to cut the headlight retaining bucket ALOT to push the truck-lite lights back or they will hit the door as well as the lower door arm. Ask me how i know lol. Again this is for a 67 and 68. it might be different for a 69. Headlights stick out a 1" past the stock ones.

[simon455]

anyone tried grote 90941-5? seen them on a jeep, they seem less flat than trucklite, more oem shape, may not stick out as much
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[77thor]

Here ya go... a pair of 7" LED headlights for under $100... They look good and the price is reasonable.
http://www.camaros.net/forums/33-camaro-tech/442305-new-led-headlights-under-%24100.html

[frascona]

I have a 1967 Camaro RS with headlight doors. When I replace the factory halogen 7" headlights with LED headlights (Truck-Lite "knock-offs"), my headlight doors will open, but they will not close when the lights are turned off. I have read that this is because the door close circuit relies on ground through the headlight filaments. If you convert to HID headlights then the ground circuit may not exist or be enough.


Will a resistor installed in-line between the headlight wire and the body ground correct this issue? If so, how does the resistor get wired?

[chuckd71]

Here ya go... a pair of 7" LED headlights for under $100... They look good and the price is reasonable.
http://www.camaros.net/forums/33-camaro-tech/442305-new-led-headlights-under-%24100.html

Please don't run these, there is a reason they are cheap. Look at all that unfocused light blasting everywhere. This is the stuff that blinds oncoming traffic and everyone else on the road hates. Spend a few more bucks and do it right.

[jamminj007]

Update 69 RS headlights with lexan cutouts. Trucklite led

[cwylie]

Bringing a thread back from the dead. Has anyone tried to the KC 42321 or the JK Speaker EVO 2?

[Camaro68+69]

Check out www.Octanelighting.com

I have them on both my 68 RS/SS Camaro with not modification at all, plug and play, no interference with the headlight doors, and on my 69 Camaro, Very bright..and inexpensive, Paid 110.00 for the pair

[Dragonfly]

Check out www.Octanelighting.com (http://www.Octanelighting.com)

I have them on both my 68 RS/SS Camaro with not modification at all, plug and play, no interference with the headlight doors, and on my 69 Camaro, Very bright..and inexpensive, Paid 110.00 for the pair
That’s good to know, I bought them a while back and wondered if they were actually inferior Chinese crap