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rrelco
01-02-2014, 11:03 AM
so i currently have 12:1 gear box in my 66 El Camino, when i am autocrossing it on the turn arounds my arms are all crossed up:drive1: so i made a call to Lee and they can change the 12:1 to a 9:1 but...they said it will be twitchy
anybody out there running with a 9:1?
dontlifttoshift
01-02-2014, 11:59 AM
Shuffle steer......seriously.
Bryce is running 8:1 I believe with a circle track quickener. Shorter steering arms are another option.
rrelco
01-02-2014, 12:09 PM
Shuffle steer......seriously.
Bryce is running 8:1 I believe with a circle track quickener. Shorter steering arms are another option.
bryce with the Corvette? and what is Shuffle Steer?
rrelco
01-02-2014, 12:32 PM
I goggled it wow....very interesting
Shuffle steer......seriously.
yep
I bet 99% of the cars at the track, not at home on jack stands, are 12:1, also depends on steering wheel size, I use a 15 wheel its larger than most but the steering input smoother has a larger area to shuffle and I steer using body and shoulders instead of the forearms and for me that reduces fatigue
rrelco
01-02-2014, 01:08 PM
yep
I bet 99% of the cars at the track, not at home on jack stands, are 12:1, also depends on steering wheel size, I use a 15 wheel its larger than most but the steering input smoother has a larger area to shuffle and I steer using body and shoulders instead of the forearms and for me that reduces fatigue
I think i will stay with the 12:1 but Lee said they will match my pump to the 12:1 and it will be better
dontlifttoshift
01-02-2014, 03:08 PM
bryce with the Corvette? and what is Shuffle Steer?
Bryce with the falcon...."project blueprint"
Strano is the only guy I have seen effectively rarely let go of the wheel. Watch his youtube videos.....I think his arms are made of rubber.
Right or wrong, I have stopped holding the wheel so tight. I sort of "cup it" and guide the wheel instead of trying to force my will on it. I try to drive just below 9 and 3 and for a tight turn that will require more input than usual I will slide a hand up to the top and then guide the wheel as it unwinds.
and what is Shuffle Steer?
you can see my hand shuffle on the vid, this was with testing a 13inch steering wheel
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Bryce
01-03-2014, 04:35 PM
I run 8:1 manual steering in my falcon and I love it. I just added power steering and neither were twitchy and great on the track. I run a little toe out which can pick up the expansion grooves on the freeway.
Bryce
01-03-2014, 05:04 PM
yep
I bet 99% of the cars at the track, not at home on jack stands, are 12:1, also depends on steering wheel size, I use a 15 wheel its larger than most but the steering input smoother has a larger area to shuffle and I steer using body and shoulders instead of the forearms and for me that reduces fatigue
my car does spend a lot of time at home, sometimes on jack stands.
my car does spend a lot of time at home, sometimes on jack stands.
ha ha ha.... your funny Bryce!
I run 8:1 manual steering in my falcon and I love it. I just added power steering and neither were twitchy and great on the track. I run a little toe out which can pick up the expansion grooves on the freeway.
I don't think 8:1 would be "twitchy" like Bryce says it really depends on the alignment settings and steering wheel size is used I would use a 14 or 15 inch wheel that smooths out the inputs, I personally look for a ratio to response of 1-1, on steering, throttle, brakes and clutch for my car
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