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06-05-2005 #1Full Blown G-Machiner
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Anyone use TunerPro for hacking GM ECM code?
If so how do you like it? User friendly? Any issues to be aware of that could potentially cause someone whos not a computer whiz to go insane?
TIA
For the curious that are thinking of doing some ECM hacking>
http://tunerpro.markmansur.com/
GMC Syclone (currently wrecked thanks to the typical rubber headed VA driver not paying attention to his red stop light...oh and he didnt have insurance either)
#614 11.9 @ 113
New stuff finished 08/06:
4L80E trans w/TCI PCM
Front: J&S UCA/LCA, QA1 coil overs
Rear: Caltracks/Belltech drop leaves
Empire drive line alum drive shaft
Polished 17x9 F/17x11 R ZR1s with 275s/315s
Syclone
Tow rig
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06-06-2005 #2Registered User- Join Date
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I've used tunerproRT, and I'm very comfortable with it and very happy with the results I was able to get, but I'm probably more experienced than average.
To be honest, a lot of it has to do with how GM set up the tables. Tuning a 1227747 ecu with it was kind of difficult, but tuning a 16197427 was very easy, and it was mostly because of the way things were done. the 7427 has places for you to enter displacement, injector size, etc, and scales accordingly. the 7747 does not, so you have to start with blind guesses of what will work if you're doing a custom setup.
Mark is a very friendly guy, which also helps. Of course, most of the diy-ers are eager to help people get started in this area.
We used the TunerproRT with craig moates' AutoProm, and my co-worker had a problem where his usb port couldn't power the autoprom, but it worked with my laptop just fine, so he used mine to tune. Craig moates is also very helpful, and spent a number of hours talking with my co-worker to get everything figured out.
06-07-2005 #3Full Blown G-Machiner- Join Date
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Fuelie Fan,
Thanks for the input. Im just getting my feet wet with trying to use a GM ecm so Im looking forward to using RT but wanted some input from someone thats already BTDT so to speak.
Any issues that you know of with RT and the 749 (syty/turbo sunbird) ECM?
Thanks again....GMC Syclone (currently wrecked thanks to the typical rubber headed VA driver not paying attention to his red stop light...oh and he didnt have insurance either)
#614 11.9 @ 113
New stuff finished 08/06:
4L80E trans w/TCI PCM
Front: J&S UCA/LCA, QA1 coil overs
Rear: Caltracks/Belltech drop leaves
Empire drive line alum drive shaft
Polished 17x9 F/17x11 R ZR1s with 275s/315s
Syclone
Tow rig
06-08-2005 #4Registered User- Join Date
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I'll take a look and see if anything jumps out at me, I've never tuned a sy/ty before...
06-08-2005 #5Full Blown G-Machiner- Join Date
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Originally Posted by Fuelie FanGMC Syclone (currently wrecked thanks to the typical rubber headed VA driver not paying attention to his red stop light...oh and he didnt have insurance either)
#614 11.9 @ 113
New stuff finished 08/06:
4L80E trans w/TCI PCM
Front: J&S UCA/LCA, QA1 coil overs
Rear: Caltracks/Belltech drop leaves
Empire drive line alum drive shaft
Polished 17x9 F/17x11 R ZR1s with 275s/315s
Syclone
Tow rig
06-16-2005 #6Registered User- Join Date
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Sorry it took so long to get back to you. THe hack I could find for that ecu was very similar to the 7747, so it wouldn't be quite as easy to tune as the later ecus (no injector or displacement scalars to get you started). But, it sounds like you've been doing this for a little while, what do you use currently?
06-16-2005 #7Full Blown G-Machiner- Join Date
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As of right now Im trying to use Promgrammer which is not the most user friendly to someone who isnt a computer whiz (aka me). It requires fairly intense code knowledge which makes my head hurt so Im looking for something that simplifies things a little. A couple of syty ppl have went with Tunerpro RT but they seem to be tight lipped about it and not sharing much info about their experiences so far so Im looking for something that someone with decent technical abilities can learn. Im no computer whiz by any stretch but if I can get hold of some software that is remotely user friendly I can learn it and the Tunerpro stuff is just that from what Ive heard.
GMC Syclone (currently wrecked thanks to the typical rubber headed VA driver not paying attention to his red stop light...oh and he didnt have insurance either)
#614 11.9 @ 113
New stuff finished 08/06:
4L80E trans w/TCI PCM
Front: J&S UCA/LCA, QA1 coil overs
Rear: Caltracks/Belltech drop leaves
Empire drive line alum drive shaft
Polished 17x9 F/17x11 R ZR1s with 275s/315s
Syclone
Tow rig
06-16-2005 #8i am using tunercatRT. it is great on my 1993 sonoma. but i am having some of the same problems with a 1227165 in my brothers 86 t/a w/maf. my truck is sd.
POLITICIANS & DIAPERS BOTH NEED TO BE CHANGED, AND FOR THE SAME REASON!
06-16-2005 #9I actually just started messing around with GM ecm stuff this a couple of weeks ago. I am trying to modify the 7730 prom. I used WinBin and TunerPro. I liked them both. TunerPro had a lot more functions than Winbin, but both were pretty straight forward.
06-18-2005 #10Registered User- Join Date
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I just downloaded promgrammer, it's pretty basic huh? Tunerpro definitely makes things a little easier on you. I've never used TunerCat, but it's probably about the same as TunerPro. I'd suggest an upgrade to one of those two. And if you do upgrade, go with the RT, it's worth it.
07-19-2005 #11I'm using a MAP 730 ECM with Tunerpro and the Ostrich. Works like a charm. I made a neat little vid today with my digital camera. Its not the best quality because its just a photo camera... but it does ok in movie mode. The sound is kinda iffy htough. It's 15 megs, does anyone know who to ask to host it?
08-10-2005 #12Registered User- Join Date
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