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    1. #21
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      Didn't I tell ya the diff sounded bad back at the open road race? ;)

      We will get Currie to fix it up on a rush next week. The TrueTrak will server you well and cost you less.



      You should see if the black gold guys will repair what you have and what it would cost. Might be good to have as a spare.
      "A ship in port is safe, but that's not what ships are built for."

      1968 Track Rat Camaro:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGHJ5c1yLIo&t=2s

      1971 Chevelle Wagon with a few mods:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBVPR3sRgyU


    2. #22
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      Yeah... I know... we talked about getting it to Currie on the drive home. But that was 75 autocross laps ago - lol.

      It's bad... real bad... I'll get some pictures and send them to DPI and see if it can be salvaged. It's too bad but ultimately I think that I'll find that my driveline vibration will be gone once it's replaced.

      I hope.
      James
      1967 Camaro RS - The OLC
      1984 Camaro GT1
      1989 Camaro 1LE - The BOC

    3. #23
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      good luck, I can't wait to have my firebird done for this.

    4. #24
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      first, out came the plug


      Then no oil came out!
      It came out after I poked a hole in the metal shavings.

      Then I got the diff out
      Last edited by David Pozzi; 09-06-2009 at 04:40 PM.
      67 Camaro RS that will be faster than anything Mary owns.

    5. #25
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      Oh the CARNAGE!!!!!!!

      I thought those black gold diffs were supposed to be super strong?

      I wonder what caused such a failure?

      With all that metal I bet the gears are toast as well.
      "A ship in port is safe, but that's not what ships are built for."

      1968 Track Rat Camaro:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGHJ5c1yLIo&t=2s

      1971 Chevelle Wagon with a few mods:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBVPR3sRgyU

    6. #26
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      Quote Originally Posted by Steve1968LS2 View Post
      Oh the CARNAGE!!!!!!!

      I thought those black gold diffs were supposed to be super strong?

      I wonder what caused such a failure?

      With all that metal I bet the gears are toast as well.

      My question is where did all the oil go? Seems to me that is what caused the failure.
      Andy

      1967 Camaro RS
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    7. #27
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      The oil was there - it just couldn't make it past the mind boggling wad of shavings packed around the drain hole...

      Yeah Steve - it's ugly. I think the gears are 50/50 - we'll see what Currie says once they get the center section. If they are toast I'll have to decide if I'm going to stick with the 3.89's or if I'm going to change the ratio as well.
      James
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      1984 Camaro GT1
      1989 Camaro 1LE - The BOC

    8. #28
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      Quote Originally Posted by James OLC View Post
      The oil was there - it just couldn't make it past the mind boggling wad of shavings packed around the drain hole...

      Yeah Steve - it's ugly. I think the gears are 50/50 - we'll see what Currie says once they get the center section. If they are toast I'll have to decide if I'm going to stick with the 3.89's or if I'm going to change the ratio as well.
      The 3.89 is a sweet ratio with the .62 6th gear of the Magnum..

      I get gears at a pretty good deal, so I can help ya out on that end too.

      We'll get it serviced and back asap.
      "A ship in port is safe, but that's not what ships are built for."

      1968 Track Rat Camaro:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGHJ5c1yLIo&t=2s

      1971 Chevelle Wagon with a few mods:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBVPR3sRgyU

    9. #29
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      The Ring gear looks OK, back lash is .010" I think spec is .008" to .012" Didn't tear it apart enough to get a really good look at the pinion gear, but it seems OK. But a new R&P isn't all that much extra money, - unless it's ME paying it! I think we ran an oil analysis on the diff in addition to the trans prior to Silver State, so it's weird nothing showed up.
      David
      Last edited by David Pozzi; 09-06-2009 at 04:52 PM.
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    10. #30
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      Yeah... the 3.89's seem to be the best ratio - there isn't enough advantage to any other possibilities. It seems to be about the best balance for the variety of events that we'll face on the One Lap next year (which looks like it will include a 3/8 mile oval at Chemung Speedrome in New York). The Silver State guys make it sound so easy - 2.20's with an open diff and call it a day.
      James
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      1984 Camaro GT1
      1989 Camaro 1LE - The BOC

    11. #31
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      Yeah... we had the oil analysis done on June 3rd and there was nothing major in the results. Total solids was less than 0.1% and nothing was close to being in the warning zone - viscosity was a little low and silicone was high but that was attributed to being new (the silicone, not the vis). Nothing stood out as being out of the ordinary. Maybe that means that we ate it at the AAS weekend? I don't know. She's done now though...
      James
      1967 Camaro RS - The OLC
      1984 Camaro GT1
      1989 Camaro 1LE - The BOC

    12. #32
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      Holy CRAP!!! The metal is defintely coming from teh differential, correct? How did the axle mating surfaces look, etc? That is really ugly. That Black Gold piece was a complete work of industrial art. Will be very interested in hearing what happened. How could that have happened??!

      Mark

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      Well the news right now is mostly good... Currie Enterprises was able to salvage our third member and replaced the blown up differential with a new True-Trac. It's in and David took it for it's first test drive yesterday. Indications are that we are good to go and with that being said...

      We're Off!!!

      As a test run for the One Lap of America in the spring I am going to try to maintain the OneLapCamaro Blog live through the Silver State Classic Challenge - there might be a glitch or two as we go but it should be interesting.

      You can follow our progress "live" through the weekend on The OneLapCamaro Blog

      Cheers!
      (and you guys have fun at RTTH5!)
      James
      1967 Camaro RS - The OLC
      1984 Camaro GT1
      1989 Camaro 1LE - The BOC

    14. #34
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      Good luck James!
      How are you live video. Handheld by a passenger companion or are you mounting front and rear cameras.
      Dave

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    15. #35
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      Given the weather predictions for where I'm going I'm sure I will wish I was in Nevada... lol

      Good luck and a six pack of beer says you won't beat our variance of .377 seconds from last year ;)
      "A ship in port is safe, but that's not what ships are built for."

      1968 Track Rat Camaro:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGHJ5c1yLIo&t=2s

      1971 Chevelle Wagon with a few mods:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBVPR3sRgyU

    16. #36
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      Good luck James, hope everything goes smoothly for you and Dave! Looking forward to watching the progress.

      deanna
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    17. #37
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      Dave just left with the OLC and is on his way to Sacramento looking to meet up with James later tonight. He's fueled with oatmeal raisin cookies and a Mountain Dew ...

      That .377 off true time will be hard to beat, Steve. I wouldn't bet against you and think your $$ is safe.

      Wish I was going ... sigh!!!

      Cheers,
      Mary Pozzi
      mpozzi . . . '73 Camaro RS, '69 Camaro SCCA/Trans-Am vintage racer, and a 1989 R7U 1LE Players Challenge car.

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    18. #38
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      Quote Originally Posted by James OLC View Post
      Well the news right now is mostly good... Currie Enterprises was able to salvage our third member and replaced the blown up differential with a new True-Trac. It's in and David took it for it's first test drive yesterday. Indications are that we are good to go and with that being said...
      Let us know how that TrueTrac works out...I ...almost...put one of those diffs in my car, but didn't know enough about them at the time, so I ended up with an Eaton posi instead.
      1970 RS/SS350 139K on the clock:
      89 TPI motor w/ 1pc rear seal coupled to a Viper T56 via Mcleod's modular bellhousing w/ hydraulic T/O bearing from the Viper, 12 bolt rear w/ 3.73 gearing, SC&C upper control arms, factory lowers with Delalums, C5 brakes at all four corners, Front Wheels 17x8's with Sumi 255/40/17 and Rear Wheels 17x9's with Sumi 275/40/17.
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    19. #39
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      Thanks guys (and girls) - we just rolled in to Ely and will get the show on the road in the morning. Long drive but the weather looks perfect for the weekend!
      James
      1967 Camaro RS - The OLC
      1984 Camaro GT1
      1989 Camaro 1LE - The BOC

    20. #40
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      You WILL have fun! I'm looking forward to seeing how you do!

      Fill it up at the starting line- I hear from a good source that it SUX to run out of gas...and you'll use up a LOT.
      Scott Parkhurst


      2011 Car Craft Real Street Eliminator Winner

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