Panhard bar brackets help..

[Josh]

What are you guys who are using a PHB doing for brackets when the car did not originally come with a bar? Of the few that I can find for a solid axle, it seems they need to mount directly above the axle? What options are there?
This is going into a Caprice with a 10 bolt, street driven, lowered 2".

[IMPALAMAN1]

What Year Caprice?

[Josh]

1979

[Randy67]

I used this on my el camino, comes in weld-on or bolt on styles:
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/p/3381...t-Weld-On.html

The frame side was made from 2 x 3 box steel and used in conjunction with 2 of these:
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/p/3371...g-Bracket.html

The body was off the frame when I did it, it would be more difficult to do on the car, but possible.

[Josh]

Randy,
Thanks, that is just what I am looking for, great web site too.

Can heim joints be set up to rotate in any direction? Obviously they can spin a full 360 degrees in the same plane as the hole, but can a panhard bar be set up with the rotation/arc of movement perpendicular to the hole?

[greencactus3]

heim joints can handle some movement perpendicular to the mounting bolt axis, but there is a limit. how much depends on the heim

[silver69camaro]

Panhard bars can be mounted ahead or behind axle centerline, assuming your brackets are up to the task.

[68sixspeed]

I used the speedway brackets on mine, nice piece and good quality; good price too!

[Josh]

great pic, thanks. You guys have helped a ton!

[funcars]

Take a look at stockcar products also. They have a very nice notched frame bracket for double shear panhard bar mounting. The holes are close tolerance too.

[35spline]

I used this on my el camino, comes in weld-on or bolt on styles:
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/p/3381...t-Weld-On.html

Which side of the car (left side, drivers or right side, passenger) would be the best location for this axle bracket? It will have a bias on adjustability either above or below the axle centerline.

[Randy67]

The axle bracket is intended to be on the right (pass) side. You could flip it for the drivers side, this it would put the bar higher up in relation to the axle. Most of my adjustments are below axle centerline. The top hole in the bracket is just above axle centerline.

[Josh]

In my application, what would be the recommeded placement for the bar in relation to above or below the axle. I am primarily using the bar as a means to control side to side axle movement since I am running tight clearances with my wheels in the wheel wells. No road courses or anything, just a driver.

[68sixspeed]

at center to below; the panhard bar height determines the rear roll center.

[Marcus SC&C]

Josh, build your brackets with a large range of vertical adjustment so you can play with it. As you lower the PHB the car will push more and more and you`ll have to compensate with rear spring rate and roll bar rate. It doesn`t take long for that to get really uncomfortable in the street. Run soft bushings in the upper arms in at least one end to allow some deflection so that the PHB can dominate the RC and you don`t have 2 conflicting roll centers fighting to control the car. Keeping the bar closer to the original RC will also reduce possible conflict and make your brackets shorter and more rigid. There will be a lot more load on them than you might think. Triangulate them well and add a crossmember between the rails just above it to keep them from spreading under load. Mark SC&C

[Josh]

Thanks Mark, I have some brackets coming and will have to mock up this weekend.
Josh