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    1. #1
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      1 3/4" G body headers?

      Who makes them that don't go outside the frame rails & that fit good with motor in stock location & WITH AC?

      Scot
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      all I can tell you is that Dynatech make some 1 5/8" headers that fit well and install really easy. I believe they are pn: 21900 and are called the circle track headers.

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      I already have Hooker 1 5/8" on it. Looking for bigger that fit.
      Thanks
      Scot
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      Supposedly Hedman's 65218 are 1 3/4" & fit. BUT the question is, will they fit with a wide sump road race oil pan.....
      Scot
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      I bought Hedmans for my friends 78 Elky, I think that one tube still ran outside the frame, I can take a couple pics and send to you,
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      Here is a pic that was sent to me, these are Hedman 65219 1-7/8" primaries. Can only see pass side, but I would assume if it doesn't go outside the frame, that the drivers side wouldn't either.
      Scot
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      Will those fit with AC? I've found lots that will fit.. but not with AC.
      The Gutless Cutlass, is no more.
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      According to the guy that sent me the pic they will. I will call Headman & find out.
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      I called them direct & he said that the oil pan width cannot be much more than stock or it will hit & that the AC box on the firewall had to go. :-(

      Fart! I thought I found one that would work for me.
      Scot
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      The orig. headers he put on in the 80s, one tube went outside the frame rail, the new ones are fora A/C car, 1 5/8 tubes I think,
      Steve68- 1968 Camaro SS LSX T56, 12bolt 3:90's, 18" Fikse Profil 13s, Deep Fathom Green paint, Spearcos, just bunch of old junk because another member said so, LOL



      70 Nova SS street/drag 454, T400, 3:55, ugly!

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      Yeah I have seen all kinds of 1 5/8 ones that all fit inside the frame rails. I have a set of Hooker ones now.
      Scot
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      Quote Originally Posted by Samckitt
      Here is a pic that was sent to me, these are Hedman 65219 1-7/8" primaries. Can only see pass side, but I would assume if it doesn't go outside the frame, that the drivers side wouldn't either.
      if those fit with a stock oil pan and no a/c box...then those are my next headers!!!!!!! Thanks for the info...we monte owners need to stick together!!

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      Yes those will fit with NO A/C box & with stock oil pan. I want them too, but won't work for me. Those pictured are 1 7/8" primaries. Hedman P/N 65218 are the 1 3/4".

      Let me know if you get them because I am curious what width pan will actually fit.

      Has anyone modified the factory G body AC box to make room for headers? PITA?
      Scot
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      i tried to modify my old a/c box to fit...but ended up just taking it out. I bought a non a/c heater box but it was all busted up. I plan on getting those 1 7/8 primary headers...do you think they will make the car a lil bit more potent??

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      Quote Originally Posted by SicMonte
      i tried to modify my old a/c box to fit...but ended up just taking it out. I bought a non a/c heater box but it was all busted up. I plan on getting those 1 7/8 primary headers...do you think they will make the car a lil bit more potent??
      Dunno. Remind me, what motor you have? For some reason I have 383 in my head.

      I read on another forum that I can get headers from Shoenfeld in 1 3/4" with a 3" collector & with flanges for the fastburn heads (D port shape). Their notes on them say may not fit with some kickout oil pans. So I need to call them & find out what width pan I can use.
      Scot
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      1 7/8 is way too big for the street, Unless you are running at 7000 rpm all of the time. In fact you will probably lose alot of low speed torque. 1 3/4 is more than plenty for a street motor.

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      the motor in the pic has 1 7/8th..... I think thats Mark's old motor IIRC... that motor was pretty much for straight out drags... 9 second car...

      He's looking for 1 3/4...



      Go buy some tubing and make a set dude.... seems to be the easy way out... =/.
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      First post and it's a super bump. Did you ever find what you were looking for? I'm in the same market myself.


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      Hedman husler 65218, I even still have AC

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mudweizer View Post
      First post and it's a super bump. Did you ever find what you were looking for? I'm in the same market myself.

      I am still running 1 5/8" Hooker full length ones.
      Scot
      86 Monte SS


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