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    1. #1
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      heater options

      Hey Guys,
      I have shaved my firewall and looking to add a small heater/defroster only no a/c. Does anyone make a all electric? Ive seen the toy jc whitney ones. What do you custom guys use?
      Thanks.



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      Vintage Air makes this "Compact heater with defrost"

      I used one on a 69 Camaro with smoothed firewall.

      It works pretty well.







      Don 67 Camaro RS/SS Texas

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      Thanks for the picts Too!

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      I also shaved my firewall. don't want those heater hoses under my hood.

      Any 12volt options?
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      Do you have any wider shots of that set up? I mean like from far away. I'm not picturing that in my head where everything is at.

      Thanks. =)

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      It bolts to the inside of the firewall, just above the passenger's feet. (it's out of the way). It is secured by studs that could be concealed. The fasteners show on this one, but I'm re-doing the firewall over the winter.




      The -10 hoses were routed behind the fenderwell.



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      Sorry for all the questions but why do the hoses go to intake manifold? One does right? Where is the other heading?

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      This is a better angle, one is fuel.


      The hoses are in place of the usual bypass port for a big block, inlet to heater core, and a return to the water pump. I didn't use the usual heater port on the intake for a cleaner routing.

      The hoses go under the alternator, and then behind the fenderwell.



      I don't mind the questions.
      Don 67 Camaro RS/SS Texas

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      I saw an electric 1 fitted in the trunk and trunking fed to the front.

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      Thats insane! I didnt know that much work and lines went into the whole process. WOW. Looks like I have to do some homework before I order my kit.

      Thanks Don.

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      The problem with electric heat is it requires an enormous amount of amperage to make such a remote unit work efficiently or any electric heater for that matter.
      I have been looking at plate heating elements used in commercial applications.
      I havent recieved any of the literature yet but the ones I looked at run onaround 13.5 v DC and figured that a box modified to run several of these might serve our hot rodding purpose but havent got cataloges nor pricing yet,,, cold weather and a friends bad heater got me looking for alternative as his carpet got trashed as well as several hundred dollars of insulation and sound dampener.
      But if you simply want a heat/def a small core with a fan hidden under the dash with a couple of discretely installed lines would make a very unique system.
      The VA stuff also works but ids out of my price range usually.
      good luck and Ill keep the forums posted as my search progresses.
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      Any corvair that runs headers has no heat. Same for a vw. So we have been dealing with this problem for quite some time. The best solution at the time seems to be:
      something like this coupled with heated seats or seat covers.

      remember that watts divided by the voltage of your system = the amperage draw. So a 300 watt heater is roughly a 25 amps. The unit pictured is small enough to hide under a dash, and can be modded with ductwork to actually defrost your windows, but provides little heat unless you're going to be in the car for over 30 minutes.

      Im still tempted to wrap one of my headers with copper tubing and pump water through it, back to vintage air's setup. I bet I could figure something out.
      Last edited by TonyL; 11-17-2007 at 12:45 PM.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ZZ430
      Vintage Air makes this "Compact heater with defrost"

      I used one on a 69 Camaro with smoothed firewall.

      It works pretty well.






      BINGO!

      Man I have been looking high & low for exactly that. I'd heard that VA made one, but I've yet to find a distributor that knew of it.

      You wouldn't happen to have a PN for it would you?
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      here you go True

      And it's MUCH cheaper than I thought it would be. Now I really have to consider my copper tubing idea.
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      Holy smokes!

      I'm STOKED!
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      wow thats cheap. Is there a link to the instructions?

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      Thanks Tony!!

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      I welded in a quick bracket to mount the VA heater and routed the hoses through the cowl vent area for a smooth firewall.

      Here is the bracket I welded in under the pass foot area to mount the unit without having bolts through the firewall.



      The hose exit and cover plate I made.



      And the clean firewall with all the lines hidden behind the fender

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      Very cool!
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