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    1. #1
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      3 point shoulder harness in 69 camaro...

      I have a 69 camaro and want to set up the typical 3 point seatbelt setup found in daily driver cars. Is it possible to rig a seatbelt up coming from the back seat mount in the roof, and is this safe? Thanks for the feedback guys, appreciate all tips and advice I can get.

      Ryan



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      Yeah that's the hot ticket for the street. Mounting to the roof it correct. Go buy yourself a copy of Street Rodder magazine and you will find a few sources. I believe Larry Callahan knows of a source as well.

      I have 5-point race harnesses mounted to a roll cage, but I want to install modern 3 point belts as well.
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    3. #3
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      Try http://www.customaccessoriesmfg.com/

      Simple bolt in with no extra holes. I will install these and a 5 point harness if I can.

      Please tell them where you heard about them if you call.
      Larry Callahan
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    4. #4
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      What happens to the old shoulder harness mounting point in the roof or does the 3 point for Camaros that this company sells utilize it? In the install photos on the Mustang they drill a new hole but maybe because the Mustang did not have a shoulder Harness to begin with...anyone know? Thanks for any inputs...been wanting to do this sometime. Also I think Camaroboy69 installed 4th gens in his but don't know the specifics on it.


      "I'm dumb enough to ask stupid questions...but just smart enough to recognize a stupid answer"

    5. #5
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      it looks like it won't work with bucket seats....(like in my 71 Camaro) belt will slide down the side I think.
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    6. #6
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      I used those on a 69 Chev pickup, my daily driver for 2 years, and they worked great. I plan on added these to my camaro before it hits the road.
      Dan

    7. #7
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      In my '70 Nova I'm planning on using the factory overhead mount for the front upper mount. It's a little farther back than I like (it's centered over the rear window), but it's a good easy mount point to use. I don't see why the same wouldn't be true for your '71 Camaro.

      Does anyone have any thoughts on where to mount the upper mount for the REAR 3-point belts?

      I'd thought about mounting it in the trunk under the package tray and route the shoulder harness belt through a slot in the package tray itself. Any other ideas??

      Dan

    8. #8
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      I've heard good things about these 3-point belt companies as well.

      http://store.yahoo.net/wescoperformance/nonresebe.html

      http://www.andoauto.com/seat_belts1.htm

      Dan

    9. #9
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      I just read an article about this in the winter 2004 issue of Camaro Performer magazine. It features a photo installation guide and uses units from Car Guys Safety and Accessories. $180 per set

      www.carguysoforange.com

    10. #10
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      Birdman, Did they only install 3-point belts in the front or the back as well?

      Dan

    11. #11
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      Guys,
      Thanks for all the useful feedback. I wanted to add that if anyone gets that mustang set, may want to fab. up a steel plate to compliment that small washer shown under the car. I've read up on all this a little more and they always seem to recommend solid mounting points with a little more reinforcement than just a washer which could rip through the floor.
      I think all this is an important topic cause none of us want to hit the dash or wheels on our rods in the event of a wreck because the dash safety on these cars are obviously light years behind. Be careful out there!

    12. #12
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      Thanks for all the input and handy links. Pretty much answers most of my questions. Sure would like to go to a 3 point retractable as I can't stand my stock '69 Camaro belts...and seats for that matter!


      "I'm dumb enough to ask stupid questions...but just smart enough to recognize a stupid answer"

    13. #13
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      I thought I'd offer one more source, since they're cheaper than almost every other place I've seen for the same quality stuff... http://161.58.79.191/cgi-bin/SoftCar...fg+VSE23286001 . I bought a pair with the mounting hardware kit for my '70 Mach 1 for under $120 shipped.

      Quality is OEM (or better if you compare to my '92 Saturn) and they fit well. I'm a big guy (5'11" and pushing 4 bills) and when I mentioned I needed long belts, they said the graphite colored ones were longer for some unknown reason... they are nice and long but I wish I'd gotten a proper black. Anyway, here's a pic of them installed...

      Hope this helps.
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    14. #14
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      does any one know how to get a hold of car guys of orange non of the phone #s work i really like the setup they have, vary good artical in camaros winter 2004

    15. #15
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      Need to be more specific than "car guys of orange". Try searching Google. Nothing beats Google and remember a good Spell check can help us all on helping you. I'll check the current Camaro Performers (I think this is what you mean) and post what I can find out...I'm lookin' too.


      "I'm dumb enough to ask stupid questions...but just smart enough to recognize a stupid answer"

    16. #16
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      Jigga I checked the Camaro Performers mag and found the link: http://www.carguysoforange.com I tried the number also and see what you mean about the number not working! The product looks pretty good and after being in the mag you'd think they would update thier number! Might try emailing them for a valid number. Also check out the link DarkBuddha lists above...look pretty good too.


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    17. #17
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      thanks rathead thats who i meant, tryed emailing them nothing yet? really nice setup they have and its not that old of a mag 2 months?

    18. #18
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      I emailed them as well. Maybe they got too much business...shut down the lines Kind of strange! And your right that Mag is recent it is still on the shelves and will be till mid March! Let me know if you hear anything and I'll do the same if I do. I am ready to buy some new belts as I just can't stand the old 2 point belts.


      "I'm dumb enough to ask stupid questions...but just smart enough to recognize a stupid answer"

    19. #19
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      will do, it would be nice to find out were they get them from,

    20. #20
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      I just recieved my 3pt. interia belts from the "orange guys", apparently they had 1500 inquires from that Performers article and were overwhelmed. I am going to install them in the next few weeks. If interested in how it turns out e-mail me and i'll let you know. I'll look on the box and see if I can find the manufacturer.

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